JConcepts Wheel Dishes For Hazard Short Course Wheels

Chilly Duncan · #1 02-18-2013, 12:53 PM

Latest from JConcepts:

The Hazard wheel by JConcepts has taken the Short Course class by storm. With victories all over the world and back-to-back ROAR National Championships, the Hazard has established itself as the go-to wheel for Short Course racing on the Team Associated SC10, SC10 4x4 and TLR 22 SCT and Losi SCT-E. With advancements and perspective changing within the Short Course Class and driver preferences focusing more exclusively on performance, JConcepts has added a much anticipated accessory to the line-up.

The wheel dish, available in black, white and yellow, can add a personal or more focused driven setup tweak to the popular Hazard wheel. The wheel dish is injection molded plastic and features built-in geometry to engage into the Hazard wheel and provide that dish wheel style with very minimal effort. The wheel dish is cleverly designed to secure to the wheel and with just the addition of the wheel nut, clamps right into place. Perfect style, perfect flexibility, JConcepts.

Features:

JConcepts clever design and appearance
Engaged geometry, simple attachment
Molded, durable plastic material
Available in black, white and yellow colors

Hazard - SC10 / SC10 4x4 - wheel dish - 4pc. (black)
Part # - 3344BD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3344 wheel)

Hazard - SC10 / SC10 4x4 - wheel dish - 4pc. (white)
Part # - 3344WD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3344 wheel)

Hazard - SC10 / SC10 4x4 - wheel dish - 4pc. (yellow)
Part # - 3344YD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3344 wheel)

Hazard - Losi SCT-E, 22 SCT wheel dish - 4pc. (black)
Part # - 3352BD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3352 wheel)

Hazard - Losi SCT-E, 22 SCT wheel dish - 4pc. (white)
Part # - 3352WD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3352 wheel)

Hazard - Losi SCT-E, 22 SCT wheel dish - 4pc. (yellow)
Part # - 3352YD
Retail price – $6.00
(fits JConcepts #3352 wheel)

Old_School_RC_1 · #2 02-20-2013, 10:46 AM

"With advancements and perspective changing within the Short Course Class and driver preferences focusing more exclusively on performance.... "

Warning - anti-racing sentiment here.

While it might be a nice wheel, and nothing personal against JConcepts per-se, they have no place on an SC truck imo. What made these trucks so popular is that they look like their 1:1 counterparts. Seems like the race crowd cannot help themselves to aero bodies, pin-spikes, and dish wheels, thereby diluting what makes these trucks popular in the first place. Go race 1/10 "stadium" trucks if that's what you want, they already look like nothing 1:1. With the exception of the larger body and wheelbase, that's where its heading anyway. Soon, the classes will get so expensive and over the top, it will eventually die out. (See also: touring cars) Do we learn anything from the past?

End mini-rant. Flame on.

SuburbnHooligan · #3 02-21-2013, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_School_RC_1

"With advancements and perspective changing within the Short Course Class and driver preferences focusing more exclusively on performance.... "

Warning - anti-racing sentiment here.

While it might be a nice wheel, and nothing personal against JConcepts per-se, they have no place on an SC truck imo. What made these trucks so popular is that they look like their 1:1 counterparts. Seems like the race crowd cannot help themselves to aero bodies, pin-spikes, and dish wheels, thereby diluting what makes these trucks popular in the first place. Go race 1/10 "stadium" trucks if that's what you want, they already look like nothing 1:1. With the exception of the larger body and wheelbase, that's where its heading anyway. Soon, the classes will get so expensive and over the top, it will eventually die out. (See also: touring cars) Do we learn anything from the past?

End mini-rant. Flame on.

agreed. i don't even like short course trucks and i think pin tires, dish wheels and aero body's are stupid and wreck the class. i guess they figure they've wrecked stadium trucks and buggy's enough and are now looking for something new to f-up.
just wait until they start moving that cab forwards. probably call it a "long bed" body or something. seriously, that would make an epic April fools joke. the forums would explode in hatred.

rccardude04 · #4 02-21-2013, 11:16 PM

I'm confused what's going on here a little... Why are we adding mass to wheels?

-Eric

Chilly Duncan · #5 02-22-2013, 10:17 AM

I believe this new product accomplishes 3 goals:

1. Another tuning option like the TLR 22SCt offers: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=266970

2. Gives you a new look if you like dish wheels. Also along the line of sticker disks: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=266548

3. Makes the wheel looks more realistic like the Stadium Super Trucks. Those trucks features an outer "color' ring and all black wheel inside.

rccardude04 · #6 02-22-2013, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbnHooligan

agreed. i don't even like short course trucks and i think pin tires, dish wheels and aero body's are stupid and wreck the class. i guess they figure they've wrecked stadium trucks and buggy's enough and are now looking for something new to f-up.
just wait until they start moving that cab forwards. probably call it a "long bed" body or something. seriously, that would make an epic April fools joke. the forums would explode in hatred.

If you don't care about the class and don't actually race, why do you care what this class of racers are doing? It's like having a huge concern for how the Japanese cook their Sushi, but you don't actually like fish and have never been to Japan. I'm confused. Besides, in light of new information, it also appears that they're to make it look more like the real thing in this case. Your argument has more holes in it than toilet paper at the microscopic level.

Chilly, are people starting to add weight to control arms? That sounds like excessive compression damping from a full-size-car tuning perspective. Maybe these two-stage/digressive pistons do actually have a use after all...

-Eric

SuburbnHooligan · #7 02-22-2013, 08:45 PM

because after the manufactures get done totally defiling and annihilating stadium trucks into a non-recognizable and over priced form, im probably going to be forced to run a short course truck if i want to continue to bash the way i bash and have my truck look like a truck.

and short course trucks made to be scale and intentionally straying from the intended concept to make them work like a style of truck that's already in existence (stadium trucks) annoy's the living crap out of me.

plus i gives me something to piss and moan about.

and you can say the rings add realism all you want. i call bull! notice the full size truck doesn't have dish wheels

oh, and i do like the buggies

rccardude04 · #8 02-23-2013, 10:39 AM

I know the buggies got stuck with cab-fwd before the trucks started getting it. I haven't even looked recently, but can you get a non-cab-fwd body for a 2wd buggy still? For some reason I would think someone would still offer a real body for people who aren't interested in figuring out what 3 changes they can make to get 0.10 seconds per lap faster.

I agree that the SC trucks need to stay realistic. The aero bodies don't bother me so much as long as they don't get ridiculous, but I also don't think they need to look like a 1982 Ford Ranger either. Styles do change over time and we can't expect them to always look like vintage SODA racers.

I'm not really a fan of the looks of dish wheels either. Maybe the main issue at this point is that they'll grab dirt if you land sideways so people are throwing dishes on them. Still seems like a lame excuse to basically add unsprung rotating mass for the sake of "style." I sure won't be buying any but if someone wants to slow themselves down then go for it!

-Eric

T3GT · #9 02-23-2013, 02:03 PM

Well, the dish wheels don't really bother me as much as Ugly-A$$ bodies do....I've been known to put 8th buggy wheels on my SC8 when I run in the truggy class--seems to help me corner better because of the low profile....but I'd rather run the actual SC wheels because I love the way they look, and I usually run SC wheels UNLESS I race against truggies....

And Yes, it's a shame that you can't get a regular cab for buggies anymore...I used to like the buggies a lot, now I can't stand to even look at them anymore....it's a damn shame that we have these awesome race vehicles today, but they down-grade the hell out of them by putting these awfully hideous pieces of scrap lexan on them....I remember when having a good looking race vehicle was a big part of RC Racing....guess those times are long gone....It was real disturbing to see the B44 on the cover of the new issue of RCCA with that THING on it....heart-breaking....I LOVE the B44, but it was a disgrace to see what was done to it....no justice, man.....no justice at all....

T3GT · #10 02-23-2013, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilly Duncan

3. Makes the wheel looks more realistic like the Stadium Super Trucks. Those trucks features an outer "color' ring and all black wheel inside.

To me, this SC Dish-Wheel idea they are trying to sell don't really represent REAL SC Wheels like in this pic....The DE Racing Black Trinidad SC Wheels with the outer rim painted would be an exact replica for what these Stadium Super Trucks are running.

http://www.deracing.net/store/index....ry&path=174_43