HPI Savage 21 forum v1.0

[newracer]

the new air filter is better but there are many aftermarket ones that are still even better.

I am running the RB air filter and the RB 086 pipe.

[ViperStrike]

The new version is still not that great.
upgrade to a 1/8th scale filter.

[Remote]

If you dont mind me asking, what did you pay for the filter and where did you get it?
Thanks

[Remote]

Any recommendations????

[newracer]

I ordered mine through my LHS, I got the kit that includes several replacement filter elements and the oil. About $28

www.ace-hobbies.com has them too.

[trakhak]

Ok I tried the exhaust deflector and I didnt notice it to be any quieter, good news it did not affect the perf.! Does anyone have any thoughts on Dynamites quiet pipe series? I know .21 are big and powerful, but I live in a quiet beach community, they tolerate my .12 but I think this composite pipe is too loud. Anyone have a CVEC? Is it louder or softer? Need help! I plan on racing and not worried about noise at the track but the neighbors are different!
Also does any one make a remote starter for this thing even a yank eliminater would be better. Any thoughts. The motor is hard to start, as this motor breaks in will it be less tempermental? Ok Thanks for any help!

[Softail]

Anybody know who makes the steering servo fro the Savage?
I broke a gear inside mine and I am trying to find parts to fix.

[ViperStrike]

The stock servo is a Futaba S9151
just get a gear set for that.

Remote, I use the RB 1/8th buggy filter.
Its a great filter but the elbow it comes with is too short.
I got a motorsaver elbow and its great.

[Softail]

Thanks Viper!:)

[Nitroaddict]

Hey Viperstrike,

what degree motor saver elbow did you get?



Thanks,

Nitroaddict

[Maxxkilla]

Originally posted by trakhak
. Anyone have a CVEC? Is it louder or softer? Need help! I plan on racing and not worried about noise at the track but the neighbors are different!


I have the CVEC pipe and it is a lot quiter. When i race my cousin who has a stock pipe, i beat him all day. and it sounds better also.

[nuespeed]

Savageaction.com is up again we just re did the whole site it looks different. Wow this forum has grown when I was here the savage forum had less than 16 pages last time

[wavejake]

Hey,

When I put an Ofna Hyper .21 8 Port into my Savage what parts will I be likely to break?

I already have the HD Dogbones, and Spur Gear on the list.

What else will I need?

Thanks.

[Maxxkilla]

I would get some extra uprights, i love to break those i bet u do too.

[RushMan86]

lol shattered my hub like 4 times also the uprights...time for aluminum...

[wavejake]

What do you mean by hub?

[Helevitia]

I know this won't mean much to most of you but...

I got my truck today! Woo-Freakin'-Hoo! Too bad it was too late to actually break it in. Next weekend will be a good weekend :D

Dave

[RushMan86]

As in hub i mean the part that kinda looks like a circle with two inlets that the upright connects to.

[samvan]

I was wondering where I may find info or a place to order those RB086 pipes? My LHS has never even heard of RB if that is the brand name. I searched ebay and came up with a Novarossi 086 pipe but not an RB. Are these the same? Thanks for all your help. My Savage should be here real soon with an 8port ready to go in.

By the way Hardcore has just put up some Savage Titanium parts. Not many right now but still a few.

[nitro tiger]

Hey guys spoke with HPI they told me not to go up in shock oil. THey stock is 10 maybe go 15wt thats it i went 70wt rear and 40wt front. they sais if i leave it like that i will break the shock tower or shocks so i am going down in weight but i think 10 is to soft what do you guys think:confused:

[samvan]

go with 40 all around if you are afraid of it breaking. From what I read this is the low end of what people have been putting in. 40-50 seems to be real popular. Maybe even try a 30-35 that would still tighten them up a bit but not too much like 70 does

[nitro tiger]

Samvan i ordered the RB86 pipe you can get it from Acehardware they are really quick. http://acehardwarehobbies.com

[B!!!]

Samvan, you can find the RB086 pipe at Ace Hardware Hobbies (http://acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=20_21&products_id=2482&osCsid=ee6c3f3dd3984efe5d214af6bdbbd06f). I believe the Novarosi pipe is the same.

Nitro Tiger, I think most people have been putting 30 or 35wt silicon oil in their shocks. I have 30wt in mine with no ill effects.

[nitro tiger]

Thanks Samvan for the tip. Did you change the weight in yours? I just ordered the 8port from them as well

[samvan]

thanks for the help. Does anyone know the performance and sound differences between this RB pipe and the CVEC pipe? I do not want it to be real loud but I do want more performance.

Thanks again

[nitro tiger]

B do you have 30wt all around?

[B!!!]

Yeah, I got 30wt in all the shocks. But, I'm a basher so performance wasn't as big of an issue as just getting that sludge out that HPI put in there.

[samvan]

have you guys been getting the black RB086 or the One piece very expensive RB 086? Just curious I think I would go with the black one anyway. Thanks for your help again

[Coconut]

Originally posted by samvan
I was wondering where I may find info or a place to order those RB086 pipes? My LHS has never even heard of RB if that is the brand name. I searched ebay and came up with a Novarossi 086 pipe but not an RB. Are these the same? Thanks for all your help. My Savage should be here real soon with an 8port ready to go in.

By the way Hardcore has just put up some Savage Titanium parts. Not many right now but still a few.

Try www.rbproducts.com

[rcnutt]

www.ace-hobbies.com

[B!!!]

Originally posted by samvan
have you guys been getting the black RB086 or the One piece very expensive RB 086? Just curious I think I would go with the black one anyway. Thanks for your help again

Your best bet is to stick with the stock header. The one piece will fit but I think you need to cut out part of the TVP to make it fit perfectly.

By the way, you can get the pipe in the polished aluminum look, just select the color with the little pulldown menu from this page here (http://acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=20_21&products_id=2482&osCsid=cbafe9a2e59b18754e116cb767e06860). It's an additional $6, but it looks pretty sharp.

[sport coupe]

i have a question -when they say a rc car can go 40 mph is that by radar or by scale of the car?

[wavejake]

That is the actual speed that the car travels at!
So when this thing is doing 40MPH it is the same as your real car doing 40MPH!!!

[TitansGT4]

so will the shock towers really break if i put 25 wt or 20 wt oil in the shocks?

[B!!!]

No. I've been running 30wt since December and they've been fine.

[TitansGT4]

thanks cuz i hate how the truck sags when it's moving and it corners really sloppy

[nitro tiger]

OK i just picked up the HYPER 8 port can i use the standard plug in there or do i need to use a turbo plug i was under the impression this motor did not have a turbo head on it. or is this justt the name:confused:

[cbr74]

Standard plug is fine for the 8 port. The turbo refers to the fan blade turbine thingy inside the engine, not the head design.

My Hypers like the MC 59's in the winter and the MC8's in the summer.

[rcnutt]

it is called that for the little "turbo" fan thats part of the oneway.use a standard plug, and loosen that sucker to start that motor for the first 10 tanks, or buy some extra pullstarts I just got mine broke in. good luck, rcnutt

[cbr74]

Loosen the plug... hah.. my 8 port felt like it was hydrolocked with the plug completely out of it. I had to use my heat gun on it the first few times just to be able to turn it over.

[rcnutt]

yeah, and I put some after run in the cyl. and pulled it over 20 or so times and that helped too .loosened it up alittle.

[nitro tiger]

THanks for the info also did you guys leave the play in the crank or did you move the coplet back to stop some of the sliding back and forth:confused:

[savageowner]

Tonight while thumbing through my recent issue, i happen across page 160 in the magazine. There in living color was my Savage in a nearly 1/2 page article. This is so cool. Here is the scan of the article.

http://www.pnwfs4x4s.com/xtremercmag.JPG

[B!!!]

Congratulations Savageowner! That's really cool!

[Kenny123]

My HPI .21BB engine needs a rebuilt, but does any one know if I can put OFNA’S .25 or Hyper 8-port engine piston and sleeve in the .21BB engine?

[jahdisp25]

I just got my savage yesterday and so far it seems to be the cream of the crop!

I am planning my first hop up to be teh reverse module but after that who knows? Any input on that??

I am still in the break in stage so I dont know what the performance is like?

I really liked the T-maxx but I think that their success is coming to an end.

People are no moving on to bigger and better things. Dont get me wrong I think the tmaxx is a great truck but teh savage is taking over tehy are selling liek crazy! Tower cannot keep them in stock and every local shop only has 1?

We will see what happens I guess?

I went from a duratrax maximum to this so it is like going from a ford pinto to a cadiliac!!!

I still have a lot to learn about this truck becuase it is much more complex and detailed!

[Allen T]

Will a 5 cell FLAT reciever pack fit in the Savage battery box?

Thanks!

Allen T

[newracer]

no it won't you need a hump pack

actually it might fit in between the servos, but to put it in the normal postition it needs to be a hump pack

[Allen T]

newracer,

Thanks, man.

Allen T:D

[jahdisp25]

Well after following the correct break in procedures I got the truck out running and to be very honest I have yet to be impressed!

I liek the truck, I like teh setup, I like teh features, etc but I dont think it will outrun a Tmaxx!

I definately think teh Maxx has a lot more speed?

I think it has torque and decent speed but not like I expected it to have??

How do I adjust the brake? It seems like it could be stronger?

You can definately get a workout pulling taht pull start!!

[wavejake]

No one ever said that it would outrun a Tmaxx. It has been said many times that stock vs. stock a Tmaxx will be faster.

Next weekend I will be breaking my Ofna Hyper .21 8 Port and that will absolutely SMOKE any stock Tmaxx that comes near it.

[trakhak]

jahdisp25, pick up a 6volt receiver pack, your brake problem will instantly disappear! I run a dynamite .21 airfilter and port matched the exhaust header to the cranckcase exhaust outlet and that made a big difference in power, just ask the t maxx guys I smoked at the track last night! Next up is a HB pipe, see what that will do..... As far as the pull start, HPI will be coming out with a electric remote starter very soon, aside from that I use a mechanix glove it proves hard to start, but it does get easier after about 6 or 7 tanks. good luck!

[jahdisp25]

Trakhak, what will a 6volt reciever pack do that my stock one does not? I just dont see how that will fix it??

[trakhak]

ok here is how it works...standard stk rec. pac feeds 4.8 volts to the servos, and lets say the throttle servo has 50oz. of torque, that figure is probably not accurate but this is a example. Now when you use a 6 volt pac, and that is the highest you can safely use by the way, the torque reading will be higher because you are supplying more power, as a result of more power your servos will react faster and be stronger. This new "strength" is what will let the disc caliper of your brake clamp the disc harder, resulting in more brake. I recently installed a 6 volt pac and now I feel no need to alter the brakes or buy a aftermkt disc as the brakes stop my Savage with no fade or weak feeling, as a matter of fact it will make the truck dive in the front so hard that a few times it lifted the rear wheels slightly off the ground! Hope this helps!

[newracer]

I also runa 5 cell pack in mine and I have tons of brakes. You might want to check to make sure everything is set correctly too.

[B!!!]

jahdisp25, have you tried tightening the knob on the brake linkage a bit? Also, a rechargeable battery pack will save you a lot of dough in the long run.

[rcnutt]

a barrel stop and feul line works very well also.

[Kenny123]

My HPI .21BB engine needs a rebuilt, but does any one know if I can put OFNA’S .25 or Hyper 8-port engine piston and sleeve in the .21BB engine?

[rcnutt]

I don't think it'll work. but , for only 60.00 more you get the whole hyper 8.

[jahdisp25]

Is it just me or is that cover that goes ove rthe reciever area a pain to get on and off?

I got it on but it was a pain I and dont really want to do it again!

I see Rcnutt has it off is that okay to do??

[nfs_srt10]

its ok to do you just got to be extra careful about runnin into water and other stuff that might ruin your electronics, unless you waterproof them and whatever else

[rcnutt]

that rx cover is a joke. It's not even close to water tight.a ballon or rx cover works great for water and the front tower and rollbar give good protection.thats a kyosho rubber rx cover on mine.

[jahdisp25]

well, i never run mine near water anyways so i guess it will not hurt anything if i keep it off?

Has anyone messed around with the carb settings at all? I turned the high speed needle a turn to teh lean side during break in but did not touch the others?

I dont know if it is just my truck but i seen where people were saying how much low end torque it has but mine dont, I mean it has power but not a lot.

In fact my duratrax maximum is a lot faster! That kind of dissapoints me in a way. It is a torq 16 in it and. I thought for sure the savage woudl give it a run?

Maybe after doing some tuning that will change?

[jahdisp25]

I seen these exhaust systems on ebay selling for $40.00 and all it is basically is some 1/4 inch copper tubing, a few elbows, and a T fitting probably materials totaling less then $10.00.

I was wondering how they would work? Maybe I will build one and give it a try??

Anybody have one??

Here is a link to it:

http://**************/ws/*******************************3120361850&category=19168

[B!!!]

If you've got a few tanks though your truck you should start leaning out both the HSN and the LSN - just a little bit each tank until it runs really snappy. 1/8th of a turn. Is it shifting into second gear yet?

Speaking of gears, have you seen this?
http://www.hpiracing.com/rcforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57523

Stay away from those dual exhaust pipes. They are terrible. I've never heard anything good about them. Build one if you want, but you will just be wasting time.

[trakhak]

I have seen those dual exhaust set-ups too. I would think that since the outlets actually go up higher than the chamber/header that at lower speeds the oil and raw fuel would build up in the chamber and cause the motor to load up, and stall! I use the desription "chamber" loosely!!!

[samvan]

Hey rcnutt and any others with the Hot Bodies Carbon TVPs.. Are you finding those to be strong enough for you? I plan on racing and also doing some bashing and big jumping. I like the look of those and am debating whether to get those or the Hardcore Titanium plates. Any input would be much appreciated.

[samvan]

also are the GPM titanium parts any good? I was looking at the pins and stuff. I know that their drive shafts have been snapping but haven't heard about their other parts.

[B!!!]

For carbon fiber tvps, you might want to take a look at Vertigo Performance (http://www.vertigoperformance.com/products_savage.html) also. I hear they are extremely strong and rigid and a better quality than Hot Bodies. Kind of spendy though at about $100, but they are about what you will pay for titanium. I haven't heard much about the Hardcore TVPs, and I'm not sure how they compare in weight.

I got a set of those utterly crappy GPM universals before I found out they were crap. Want 'em? :) Since then I've been avoiding GPM product. However, I don't see how they could possible hose up pins or some of the other parts. Maybe someone else has more info for you.

[rcnutt]

my tvps are vertigo's .they are VERY strong and flex VERY little.I would go vertigo over hot bodies.I think the quality is better and if you have any problems clayton at vertigo is very helpful.as for hot bodies ,I have called and left 3 mess. for their "tech support/customer service" and have yet to get a call returned. in fact clayton posted a message on the savage21.net site letting all know that he had some blem sets of CF tvps he would let go for 60.00 shipped.thats the deal I got and hell , blems nothing .I can't find but one small scratch on one side.great deal check it if your interested.he only had a couple of sets left.

[nfs_srt10]

i thought those were on the anodized set(s), oh well, anyway he sold all of those already so better luck next time

[OmegaTrac]

So what is the deal anyway about upgrading the TVPs? Is it mainly just a weight thing? It shouldnt have anything to do with durability or flex? I think the stock TVPs are good, they dont flex and appear to be tough as nails? :)

[jahdisp25]

How hard will it be to upgrade these chassis plates? Will I have to take a lot of stuff off in order to do so?

[PumPkinHead]

Picco .26 OutLaw (http://www.extremercmotorsports.com/Ofna-Picco-26-Outlaw.htm)

[nfs_srt10]

it was supposed to come out late this month but they pushed it back to soemtime in april, i'm waitin on it

ps it is the same as the Team orion Wasp .26

[PumPkinHead]

Yeah its the same. It just has a diffrent head on it. They are both picco engines

[PumPkinHead]

The ofna web site says it will be out in late march???.26 OutLaw (http://www.ofna.com/eng-picco-26.html)

[ImpulseGTP]

how much is that thing gonna be??anyone know?

[jahdisp25]

All I can say is alot, take your average engine and triple that pirce?? But seriously I dont know, I am just assuming?

[ViperStrike]

It will cost between $169 and $199

And it was pushed back 3 months.

[ImpulseGTP]

so appox. june............cool, by then i will have my savage ready:)

[dainjarouz]

Originally posted by ViperStrike
It will cost between $169 and $199

And it was pushed back 3 months.

Yup, i went to nitrohouse/ofna today and the dude told me it will be out in 3 months, broke my heart, cuz i was looking forward to buying that engine and the savage by months end. :(

[trakhak]

OK quick dumb question, I should use CA glue to affix the pads to the caliper...right? I would think they should mention how in the exploded diagram they give you...right?

[nitro tiger]

hey guys i am switching shock oil again what do you think 40wt all around or 40r and 30wt in the front:confused:

[trakhak]

Ok I had a couple of beers and NOW I can think! I am able to see that they do not need to be glued, they float with the caliper! I geuss I am used to my NTC3 pads being stuck to the calipers...never mind!

[Rcnit]

Use a small amount of shoegoo to glue them to the calipers. If you don't they won't last long at all, be torn up before you know it

[trakhak]

ok now that you mention it, I guess they would squirm under pressure, should've had that 3rd beer, then I would have seen that!!! LOL You must be 21 years old and please, drink responsibly.

[wavejake]

Check out my ride that I will be breaking in this weekend!!!
http://home.attbi.com/~jake2k5/savage21

[jahdisp25]

Nice ride dude, good luck with it!!

[nitro tiger]

Nice truck i also will be breaking in my new Hyper 8 this weekend:D :p

[dthomas07]

Any feedback on the Hot Bodies Pipe from those of you who have it?

I am trying to decide between it and the RB 086. The RB is twice as much, is it that much better?

[wavejake]

I love my HB pipe, highly recommended.

[cbr74]

Put an RB 086, an Ofna 10077, and an HB pipe side by side by side and you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between them. Is the RB so much better that it justifies the higher cost? In my opinion... NO.

[jahdisp25]

I am looking to trade my new savage for a tmaxx, I just bought the savage last saturday to be exact. I broke it in proper and had about 5 tanks of gas through it total.

It is adult owned, I am 23 and I did not beat it. I rolled it over 2 times and the body has some scratches but no cracks and everything is in tact no problems runs great I just like the Tmaxx better so if any of you guys know anybody let me know.

jahdisp25@yahoo.com

[gaus]

I have a Hot Bodies pipe. I noticed that my truck sounded better and it runs a little faster. (acceleration). I installed the HPI large air filter at the same time so draw any conclusion you want.

gaus

[TitansGT4]

i just bought the hot bodies pipe yesterday, and all i can say is...:D ! The truck sounded 100 times better, it wuz quiter and didn't sound like a tipped cow...AND it'll pop wheelies and the truck MOVES OUT!

[TitansGT4]

i just bought the hot bodies pipe yesterday, and all i can say is...:D ! The truck sounded 100 times better, it wuz quiter and didn't sound like a tipped cow...AND it'll pop wheelies and the truck MOVES OUT! i also put a motor saver air filter on it btw

[jahdisp25]

how much is this hot bodies pipe?? I tried teh website but apparently it is not up yet, where did you guys get yours from your LHS?

[B!!!]

Actually, my LHS (Hobbytown), which never has non-HPI stuff for the Savage, had the Hotbodies tuned pipe! But, if your's doesn't have one you can get one from here:
http://www.extremercmotorsports.com/Savage-Accessories.htm

Or here when they have them in stock again:
http://www.meganitro.com/indexhtml.html

Stormer Hobbies has them:
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?pn=HOT61157

And I think Tower has them too but I can't get to their site to check.

They are all around $25 or so.

So, did you change your mind about getting rid of the Savage?

[Kenny123]

I have the original OFNA HYPER .21 engine and I want to put it in my Savage. Should I put it in or keep the .21 BB Engine in it?

[sport coupe]

it only took a month to get here.can i ask does the save have jam off the line mine doesn't. some kid went a put on this dual exaust and it has a chamber for back pressure mad out of copper pipe. man is this truck loud almost need ear plugs. i just can't wait to really run it. i have no air cleaner.also waiting for all the snow to melt so there are not to much water out there.please give me some help. thank you.

[B!!!]

Did you get a used one? I'd get rid of that dual exhaust thing and get a quality pipe like the HotBodies or RB086. And get an air filter! You really don't want to run it without one! Also, you might want to try tuning it up from the stock settings if it's used.

Kenny, that Hyper .21 is rated at 1.9 HP (by Ofna) and it might not do that much. However, it might be better. Give it a shot and let us know how it works out!

[rcnutt]

add a fuel filter to that list as well

[67CAMBOB]

ive decided to go for a nitro monster and im down to 2 trucks.....the savage 21 and the ek-4 so i guess im lookin for anyone who has heard,dealt with or both as far as pros or cons of these 2 trucks i.e. parts breaking,expenses or otherwise i know the basics like prices or w/ or w/o controller and all that but im wondering where breakages and the like is gonna be.....ty

[sport coupe]

i was running the truck after work. A block and a half away the girlfriend was in the house and could hear me as plain as day. Went and raced a t-maxx tonite and blew it away.AWSOME My truck is still not launching of the line. Takes about a min to take of and within 10 feet it switches into high gear. Is that normal?:D

[lakeside_Hobbie]

I have had 3 Tmaxx's and now have a Savage and I can say they are very different. I was against the savage before thinking it was a clone but seing one the only thing in common is the 8 shocks. I like the Savage better than the Tmaxx but I was never disappointed with my maxx. I can say for sure it handles better that gen1 tmaxx the way it leans down in corners is awsome. Aynway I say Savage is the best buy out there right now for fun maybe not track racing maybe a dom or a pirate I run my buggy when I want to run a track. Oh by the way the new tmaxx blew my savage away in a drag race I accelerated faster but the maxx caught up and won.

[jahdisp25]

has anyone adjsuted the needle settings yet from teh factory settings?

I was just curious becuase I have not touched my settings and was wondering what everyone else was doing?

[TEAMDUZE]

I have adjusted the High Speed and Low Speed settings. You want to tune your vehicle to the specific weather for your location and operating temp of the motor.

I run mine around 240- 260F. 260 is approaching the high end for the motor. My setting for the HS is 2 3/4 out and the LS is 1/4 in from factory. This gives me more bottom end punch and insane top end.

I am running in a climate where the weather is 40 - 50F with humidty of 80%.

As mentioned settings would be different per motor and per your location. You should see a nice smoke trail coming from the motor. :-)

Happy running.

[67CAMBOB]

ty but i still want to know about breakage and also i need someone that can tell me about the thunder tiger ek4......thanx again

[TEAMDUZE]

Originally posted by 67CAMBOB
ty but i still want to know about breakage and also i need someone that can tell me about the thunder tiger ek4......thanx again

As for breakage. I have only broken the Front and Rear Uprights on the Savage. And that is due to some seriouse bashing. When first released HPI had a bad batch of the uprights go out. They have since taken care of this in the New ones that go off the line. If you have an old one they will replace the upright for free.

A different option for the uprights is the new Racers Edge Aluminum uprights. I will have them in stock by the end of next week.

As for the EK4. I can not speak personally. I have only heard rumblings about the 1 way bearing for the motor, the original .70 that was released having a few probs, and then the towers.

Your aftermarket support for the HPI Savage seems to be a bit broader than the EK4.

I have run that motor in choppers and it ran fine. So!

Sorry that I can not be much more of a help than that. You might try the EK4 forum here.Radio Controlzone EK4 Forum (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59511)

Duze!

[trakhak]

Over on another site we discussed this and most of us are in the 290-300 degree range anything lower and its a pig. I run in So. Florida, humidity about 90% and lately temps in the 90s. I have run two gallons thru it and recently broke the motor down to check for wear and evrything looks fine. I am thinking about going to 30% and see how it likes it.

[B!!!]

Dogbones have been a problem too, though some are still using the stock ones. I've broken 6 of them and then switched to Kippster dogbone and haven't had a problem. The HPI HD dogbones are supposed to be outstanding and much cheaper than the ones I got. Wish they were out when I needed them...

You can get aluminum uprights at New Era, Hobby Etc, and I believe Integy has some too, but the updated uprights (which were available almost as soon as the truck was originally released) are much much better and you don't hear of people busting them too often.

Everything else depends on how rough you drive. If you are brutal, you WILL break something.

[lakeside_Hobbie]

I have a new savage and have broken the lower a arm but it was my fault. It was cold and I launced it off a 10ft snow pile and it went farther than i expected and landed halfway up another and snap. But hey it was a awsome jump well worth the puny 11.95 for both a arms top and bottom from tower.

As for the Thunder Tiger
I drove one in a parking lot in february, it was fast as hell couldnt keep the front end down. I was considering that and the 2.5 tmaxx the weekend I bought my savage. I didnt think it handled well at all, plus it is a gas hog and parts were imposible to find for my ts4n nitro tourning car i had from thunder tiger. I say get the savage and for $90 you can get new era longer chasis and center drive shafts and it is 1 inch longer and bad as hell.
In all seriousness just consider product support and availability of parts and hop ups. Having the fastest truck in the world is great till you break and your buddy is still driving. lol

[67CAMBOB]

alot of good points.ty everyone the info is very much appreciated...altho u said that the ek-4 was fast but from what ive heard is that the t-maxx will outrun the ek-4 but no matter i know it has alot of torque.....70 motor mmmmmmmm.id hope so...lol thanx much again....ps.please say more of the ek-4.....pss i just picked up a nitro quake to get me into the nitro truck stuff which i got for 200 bucks he was talking it maybe needed a new motor because it wouldnt start off the bat (sounded like no priming was involved) and it came with a new fuel tank which was good because i found the problem of starting was a leaking gas tank..lol so he went and got a new terra crusher with elect startbut back to the subject, any typical probs on the nitro quake would be very helpful and usefull to thanks again

[67CAMBOB]

hey lakeside..is it possible u caught5 that on film?...i really wanna see...lol

[pitchblend]

Im considering getting a savage or a fac team gt, any comments about the savages strength and overall stadings compaired to a fine race truck? thank you

[lakeside_Hobbie]

The two trucks don't compare they are totaly different Like a Viper and a Hummer. The Gt is all bout handling and track racing they bash to a point but than dont get a factory team unless you want to race. My friend has a nitro rustler which is similar to the gt dosent do grass well or rough stuff can jump pretty good but hard landings. Now the gt should do better but the savage is for climbing and jumping and bashing as a matter of fact I like to run over his rustler when he gets too close. If you want to race tracks get a gt if you want to climb jump and all that get a savage.

[pitchblend]

hmm thanx , anyone have the longer chassis conversion, anythoughts, canu see a preformance differeance?

[sport coupe]

I've looked throw the manaul and found where the set srew is supposed to be but when i look throw the hole and move the tire so it rotates i can't find it. Is it possible that it came out and thats why it's not shifting into 2 gear? please help me

[lakeside_Hobbie]

When I adjusted my TMAXX I couldnt see the set screw but when I put in the wrench I found in and adlusted it. There may be greese in it and or the screw may be black. I will look in my savage and see if I can see it. ill post later or tomorrow.
Good luck

[nfs_srt10]

what you will have to do is stick somthin in there part of the way so you can stop the "cover" (lack of a better word) from spinning and turn the wheel(s) til the set svrew comes into view

if you look on page 27 of your manual and look at step 19, see how the 2-speed goes into the gear (page 26 so know you which gear) well if you look closely you will see the hole that is offset from the gear...that is where you do what i stated above, also when lookin for the set screw its the second on that you will see and adjust (just an FYI) hope this helps, and if you need me to clarify somethin just ask

[OmegaTrac]

Sup guys,
Ok I am going to the track tomorrow but I am having some problems with my carb. The carb on my 8 Port sticks. I oiled the slide with After-Run and cycled it back and forth until it was smooth. Then after breakin and performance tuning it started sticking again. I got a new throttle servo with a faster speed and more torque and it solved my problem some what but the slide still sticks. What should I do? Please help.

Thank you

[sport coupe]

i have tried sticking a srew driver in the hole so i can try and spin the cover but it won't move at all. It is not visible i see shine metal in there. Can anyone help me please and thank you for your help earlier. And i noticed that my rear end slips now when i try and run it. can you help me with that too?

[nfs_srt10]

when you stick the screwdriver in there and see the 2-speed (shiny metal) turn the wheel til you see the screw, the cover is not supposed to move, thats why you stuck the screw driver in there. just turn the wheel back and forth slowly, but becareful because if you pass it you have to go all the way around again...i don't know how else to explain this sry if it doesn't help

[hua15]

http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/savage/super/2.jpg

http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/savage/super/1.jpg

http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/savage/super/4.jpg

-Hua

[nitro tiger]

The truck is Bad ass man nice going were did you get that truck body painted!!!:D

[WheelNut]

Hey guys, I just picked up a Savage this weekend!

I have to say this truck is really nice and built a lot heavier than I expected. The Savage seems like a its built of Iron compared to my maxx. :p But it looks very durable. So thats good. We've on;y been able to start it once, and it was very difficult. The pull start is a real best to pull, and it didn't want to fire, but it started eventually. but it died along with my glo starter, so I have to wait until tommorow to start the actual break in. I can't wait!

Do you guys have any links to good sites on Savages? Or any good tips to improve stock performance. I've heard you can mod the throttle servo horn to get more braking, but how?

I'll post some pics soon!

[newracer]

www.maxxtraxx.com is the best forum that I have been on. Lots of Savage info.

[67CAMBOB]

thanks wheelnut keep me posted on that truck

[67CAMBOB]

omfg hua...my woman is yellin at me now because i just fell in love with yer truck...lol but if u feel u need a woman and dont need the truck.lemmy know...lmao.j/k
.very very nice

[ImpulseGTP]

hi guys, i just got a Savage today, i like it. I thought my bro's Mad force was big, but this thing is even longer and just as wide as the MF!!! nice job HPI!!:)

[RushMan86]

Good luck with it, remember to lock tite the set screw and keep wheels tightned all the time.

[wavejake]

Will this work with the Hyper 8 Port?

http://**************/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34063&item=3125716272&rd=1

[wavejake]

Go by item #3125716272

[dainjarouz]

i dont think it will. It fits the 21. bb nitro star and the force 25 if i remember correctly. Just buy the hyper 8 port pullstart. or i think you might be able to mod it.

[RadicalRustler]

I read this whole thread and have now decided that the savage will be turning under elctric power. I am an electric guy, and the e-maxx is too popular, i want to be different. I know that there are a couple electric savages (one that i am sure of, have seen pics). I am still working for my savage, and since it comes rtr and i don't want all the nitro stuff, i will be making trips the the lhs when i get my thunder-savage to be. Does anyone have pictures of the savage without the engine so that i can start to plan a motor mount? Thanks

[neverenufpwr]

staight up drag race, who wins, savage or 2.5 tmaxx:confused:

[RadicalRustler]

2.5 maxx if both are stock, same if air filter and new pipe/faster, and faster with new engine,etc.

[dainjarouz]

both stock in a drag the 2.5 will all day. but throw in a turn or 2, a few jumps, basically any off road track conditions and the savage will win :p

if you put another engine in the savage the savage will win anytime anywhere. this is not a flame, real life experience here.

[ibanezcollector]

just got my Savage about an hour ago.. going to break her in at work tonight..

My friend bought one a week ago bad ass is all I can say..

Wish me luck..

Im sure ill become a regular poster in this thread..

Heres his savage in action...
http://brett.stepintothelight.net/2.JPG

[RadicalRustler]

(pssst.. post in the monster lounge at www.ultimaterc.com , then JANG will make an hpi forum!!!)

[jcole1976]

i have a savage and my buddy has a 2.5 t-maxx. the first time we ran them he was thoughly impressed with the savages performance, durability and driveabililty. i agree that a stock drag race a t-maxx will eat a savages lunch, but around an off-road track the savage rules. the handling is so impressive, a t-maxx doesn't have a chance.

for anybody trying to decide which truck to buy let me finalize the decision for you: i researched for 6 months before i bought and i am extremely hapy with my decision to get the savage.

[trakhak]

I have been racing my Sav for over a month and have only been beaten once by a T, the guy was a outstanding driver and had it set up great. Other than that I have ruled at two tracks! Funny how this truck seems to be slow in showing up at the track,my LHS cannot keep them in stock but I am the only one at the track!

Has anyone actually bought and used the Hot bodies Jump Starter? I would like to hear about it before I buy one. I am working on my 2nd pullstarter and really dont want to go that route again, price of two would buy a electric start!

HB Pipe, HB Vented disc, HB Clamping Hubs, HD Dog Bones, Mild port job, Venom temp gauge, Large Air Filter, Lowered 1/4 inch, 5 cell rec. pack, Proline Jeep Body

[ibanezcollector]

I just had the best time of my rc life..

At my job we have anywhere from 2-4 hours of downtime.. We built an awesome ramp about 4 feet long, 3 feet wide and stands a whopping 3.5 feet high..

I must have jumped 40 times and only damage was I bent the rollbar/handle thingy..

Now there was some serious tumbles going on especially when I didnt hit the ramp right.. And thats all that broke im so impressed.. This thing takes a beating and keeps on coming back.

We will have the video camera tommorrow to catch some footage of the jumps..

[Killboy]

Bam!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/p63ba2459b6c7e440fb119b275be84769/fc63e54b.jpg

Pow!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/pfd1c4ff846adfe1db455ef425fae3063/fc63e55e.jpg

:p

[sjgotaz]

HUE 15: Awesome looking truck. What company carries all the colored parts. Want to deck mine out in the purple that comes with the truck. Also who carries the colored air filter. Thanks

[BigBadTahoe]

I am a 2 time maxx owner 1 time .21 owner and some other stuff, but anyway I want a new car,truck,buggie, something even though I haven't even broken in my maxx 2.5 yet! I really seem to be liking the Savage out of all the other monsters. Do you think its a good or bad idea to have both? Or should I get a completely different kind of truck or atleast consider? Help.

[newracer]

Originally posted by DubDucedDurango
I am a 2 time maxx owner 1 time .21 owner and some other stuff, but anyway I want a new car,truck,buggie, something even though I haven't even broken in my maxx 2.5 yet! I really seem to be liking the Savage out of all the other monsters. Do you think its a good or bad idea to have both? Or should I get a completely different kind of truck or atleast consider? Help.

can one really have too many monster trucks?

[ImpulseGTP]

hi guys, i m havng a really really weird porblem with my savage. ok, it goes like this, last night (7-8th tank) when i was driving the truck and all of a sudden, it stopped (the truck, not engine) and it sounded like something was not grabbing in the transmission.........but then after like 20-30 sec, it went back to normal after i felt a click in the transmisson.... 30sec later, it does the same thing again. i have seen someone posted this problem somewhere on the net before i had the truck, i ddint really pay attention to it coz i didnt own the thing yet. but now.......hmmmmmmmm:confused: :confused: i have already checked all the transmisson parts, including the clutch, 2 speed, slipper clutch, 2speed one-way bearing...............they all looked fine. i have been into nitro on-road racing for more than 4 years and i have yet to encounter such a strange problem like this, it really made my face look like this ---->:confused:

any help would be greatly appreciated..

[ibanezcollector]

check your backplate and make sure its tight..

or it could be possibly your idle is to high and its not disengaging the gear properly

[ibanezcollector]

well last night we set up the mega ramps again.. This time we caught it on video..

jump 1 gets roughly 6ft of air at a distance of about 30ft

jump 2 gets roughly 4ft of air at about a distance of 40ft

damage on the two savages after a night of heavy jumping..

another bent to hell rollbar
1 one way bearing
1 shock went thru gas tank
1 gas tank with shock still in it lol
1 spur gear

not bad considering the abuse this would put on the trucks.. But it was all for the video.. which I will try to find someone to host some clips or if you got insane bandwidth you can host the whole video..

ibanezcollector

[DeekOrtiz00]

well i have decided on the savage mainly because of durability and the best part it is only $380 at my lhs

[ImpulseGTP]

Originally posted by ImpulseGTP
hi guys, i m havng a really really weird porblem with my savage. ok, it goes like this, last night (7-8th tank) when i was driving the truck and all of a sudden, it stopped (the truck, not engine) and it sounded like something was not grabbing in the transmission.........but then after like 20-30 sec, it went back to normal after i felt a click in the transmisson.... 30sec later, it does the same thing again. i have seen someone posted this problem somewhere on the net before i had the truck, i ddint really pay attention to it coz i didnt own the thing yet. but now.......hmmmmmmmm:confused: :confused: i have already checked all the transmisson parts, including the clutch, 2 speed, slipper clutch, 2speed one-way bearing...............they all looked fine. i have been into nitro on-road racing for more than 4 years and i have yet to encounter such a strange problem like this, it really made my face look like this ---->:confused:

any help would be greatly appreciated..

Thanks ibanezcollector, but i dont really understand what you mean...
today i was teating it again. for the first few tanks, it went perfectly fine. i had a lot of fun off-roading and drag racing with my bro's mad force. but after half an hour of resting, i started it again and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........the strange problem came back when i first pulled the trgger.............man this is pretty annoying.
anybody has any idea on this?? thanks

[doesgo]

I was just informed today of possible one-way bearing problems inside the transmission. Sounds like the problem you're having. Here's what I received from a friend:
"From Savage-Central:
yes i spoke to jpi [HPI] and they said that the one way bearing has been failing cause the manufacture changed the bearing and they have no idea why so the service rep said for me to look at my one way and if it had the letters NM on it they will send you out a new one"

That's not terribly clear, but it's referring to the one-way bearing in the tranny on the newer Savages. Might be worth a look.

[ibanezcollector]

Heres the videos I promised of one of the big jumps..

More to come but right now I need sleep.. Damn 3rd shift..


Right click and save as..

http://brett.stepintothelight.net/HugeAir.wmv

http://brett.stepintothelight.net/GasTank.wmv

[swimman]

I'm trying to decide between the Savage and Ofna Titan. The two trucks are obviously in different leagues and prices but don't know which one I will get. What are the benefits of both if you own them? How easy are they to work on? Performance benefits if any? Thanks...

[ibanezcollector]

Well my savage has taken a beating and not much has broke at all.. except for the mishap with the shock thru the gastank as seen in the video above but that was very big jump and I landed smack dab on the rear end..

As far as working on them.. I have no gripes at all... pretty easy as far as im concerned..

Its an excellent truck.. The best MT I have ever owned and I have had 3..

[ImpulseGTP]

Thanks alot for the info doesgo.
someone from savage.net said the same thing and he said that i should degrease the 2 speed one-way bearing. i have never ran a one-way bearing w/o 1way grease tho, so i will see what happens, if it breaks, it breaks. i will post the result anyways

[tbill]

i have the same problem, just goes into 'neutral', guess i need to do some wrenching.

[ImpulseGTP]

hey guys it works!! my savage is finally working!!

tbill---just disassemble the 2speed and clean the one-way bearing with nitro cleaner and it should work fine.:)

[sport coupe]

does anyone out there know if there is something else that will work on the savage instead of the pull start? i just got my new one and now its gone. please hlep me.:confused:

[doesgo]

HPI and Hot Bodies are coming out with an electric start that totally replaces your pullstart unit. Works on the stock engine as well as the Force .25. I think it costs $55, both units are exactly the same.

I don't think HPI has released it quite yet, but MegaNitro supposedly has the Hot Bodies version in stock.

[tbill]

ImpulseGTP, i ripped it out tonight and took apart the gearbox, didn't have any nitro cleaner, but i used some automotive brake cleaner on that one way bearing, and TA-DA, i'm back in business!! WHOO-WHOO!!

naturally i had to take it out in the yard and 'kill' it for a bit, works great.

kinda wierd though, i didn't see anything funky in the bearing, but as long as it's working i'm happy.


on a side note, i'd be so lost without this site, thanks everyone.

[ImpulseGTP]

have fun man!!

btw, check this (http://www.savageunleashed.com/) site out, if you have been there yet :cool:

[sjgotaz]

Does anyone on this thread know what company makes the colored parts for the salvage. Also I have a ofna 21 8 port motor and it almost doubled the speed. What are the benifits of a 3 shoe clutch verses the 2, and where would you find the fly wheel. Also looking for the 16 tooth clutch bell. This truck was bad but with this motor it is awesome,has so much power it will spin all 4 tires all the way thru first gear and leaves light black marks all over my driveway. My driveway is 275 feet long. In the grass it will wheelie all day long. Also looking for wheelie bar. Thought the 16 tooth might tame it down a little but also increase the speed. I know this is long but any help will be greatly appreciated.

[doesgo]

Go to savage-central.com, there are tons of tech tips over there. Great site. They have the three-shoe clutch info, I believe.

16-tooth clutch bells are easy to find, you can use most any big block bell. HPI makes one, so does Trinity, Kyosho, etc.

How's the speed with the 14-tooth bell? I've got an 8-port and a 16-tooth and it's just a little soggy on the bottom end. I'm thinking of going back to the stock 14-tooth bell and let the Hyper's rpm give it the speed I need.

Can't help you with wheelie bars, sorry. I'd try a 15-tooth or 16-tooth bell, that ought to tame the wheelies a little bit.

What pipe are you running?

[sport coupe]

thanks guys. mega site will not have in until april.i'm just tired of breaking the cord on the pull start.i did find some on ebay for 55.i will get back about the wheelie bar i've seen them somewhere.

[sport coupe]

check out new era models or try greathobbies. i'll try and help.

[BigBadTahoe]

I ordered 2 HD Dogbones for my new Savage a few days ago, is that enough or do I need 4 of them for this truck? Sorry kinda off subject but I got to ask.:)

[doesgo]

The rears break much more often than the fronts, although breaking front stock 'bones isn't exactly unheard of. You'll probably be fine for a while, but put two more on the wish list.

[BigBadTahoe]

So it runs the same length dogbones all the way around? By the way thanks for the help.:)

[doesgo]

Ahh, the beauty of the Savage! The upper and lower arms are completely interchangeable front to back and side to side, as are the dogbones, diffs, skidplates, bumpers, TVPs (side to side, obviously), shock towers....what a great concept.

[TitansGT4]

New Era makes a wheelie bar for the savage, here it is:wheelie bar (http://www.neweramodels.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?session_id=yqyptkxtoxwmlefqdjrlqecioeyvco dr&part_id=1613)

[doesgo]

Dang, I wish I needed that wheelie bar. My Hyper 8-port pulled a few wheelies during the first tank, but ever since about tank #3 it's really soggy on the bottom end. Screams after a second or so, but off the line it's bad.

On a brighter note, I just got done with some serious bashing and a lot of air and broke three stock dogbones (expected - the stockers are junk) and one upright ear. Cheap couple days of fun! My GPM titanium dogbones held up fine, fortunately. I was a little nervous about them after all the problems with GPM universals, but so far so good with their dogbones.

[tbill]

hehe, dog bones for everyone.

a friend of mine got a savage friday night, he broke it in saturday morning and came over with it in the afternoon. we both strated bashing around the backyard having a blast. well, i have a 3 foot high dirt pile, and after many 'flights' some dog bones left the building:)

i broke a front one, didn't notice untill it only started going in a circle, it got jammed in the up-right.

my friend on the other hand broke two, a front and a rear, he got great air off the jump, then it wouldn't move:eek: , i thought maybe the one way bearing got stuck, but then we lifted up the truck and noticed some missing parts:D

looks like some HD's are in order, or does anyone have a recommendation for cvd's/u-joint set ups?

[doesgo]

It's too bad this truck is plagued with junk dogbones, because otherwise it's awesome!

A lot of people really like the Hot Bodies CVA axles ($25/pair). I've got them for my front- and rear-center axles. So far so good. A friend tried GPM's universals ($25 each), they didn't even last a tank. Junk. He also has Kippster stainless steel dogbones ($130/six) and they've held up great so far. I've run GPM titanium dogbones ($23/pair) with no problems, and many have run the HPI HD dogbones ($14/pair) with really good luck, even behind strong aftermarket engines.

I'm going to replace my broken stock 'bones with HPI HD jobs. Can't beat the price and durability.

[tbill]

well, the HD bones will be here by wed., along with my new fuel tank [put a nice big crack in that:rolleyes: ]. gonna hit the lhs tomorrow and get some other small items, and i need to get ahold of HPI and get my one way bearing situated, i cleaned it, but after a couple of tanks, i was getting neautral[sp?] again [ya, before i killed the tank and the dog bones]. with some luck, by the end of the week i'll be good to go again. good thing i have the nitro m/t to drive around in the meantime:)

[Grifter]

Would a gas tank skid have protected it from getting cracked?

BTW: It's "Neutral" ;)

[doesgo]

Well, I no longer have a favorable opinion about the GPM titanium dogbones. They stink! After about 12 tanks with my 8-port Savage the pins are sliding out of the ball ends of the 'bones.

So the GPM universals AND their dogbones suck. DO NOT BUY THEM!

I also broke three stock dogbones this past weekend, so I ordered four HPI HD 'bones from Tower this morning. Hopefully they'll be the Holy Grail of drive axles. If not, I guess I'll try the HB CVAs.

[Grifter]

What issue of RC Nitro did they do the Savage and T-Maxx comparision?

Thanks!

[doesgo]

April, 2003.

[ibanezcollector]

huge savage air video finally online..

One part of the vid is where I broke my shock and sent it right thru one side of the gas tank and out the other lol...

right click and save as

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/s/l/slw265/Web_Page/Movies/Savage.wmv

[doesgo]

Here are some highlights of our bashing weekend. Some Savage stuff, some NMT, and a little other stuff thrown in for good measure. 1:36 long, about 4 megs. Streaming doesn't work well from this server, so...

...right click here and save target as (http://www.slapmafro.com/movies/farmbashhighlights.wmv)

[Grifter]

Originally posted by doesgo
April, 2003.

Thanks.

Also, do you guys have any problems working on the Savage. The chassis seems kind of crammed as apose to the T-Maxx.

I was just wondering how it was cleaning it and doing regular maintenance.

ibanezcollector: Awesome vid. I have an Ibanez Acoustic, I love it. Just thought I'd let you know. :)


Thanks again!

[doesgo]

I've never worked on a T-Maxx, but yes, it's more crammed than say, an RC10GT or something like that, but that's comparing apples to oranges.

I imagine the Savage is a little tougher to work on than a Maxx, but again, that's with no Maxx experience. the Savage isn't difficult at all, takes about 5-10 minutes to get to a differential, about 5 minutes to get the engine out, if that.

[Grifter]

Ok, thanks doesgo.

Cool video by the way. It seemed like the Savage(s) werent jumping too well....

[doesgo]

I was doing well the first day, but almost totally lost control the second day for some reason. It doesn't help that the friend who put the video together only showed the BAD landings! He has the Savage that was doing backflips in the beginning of the video.

Here's another video from the same weekend with some different footage:
Right-click and save as (http://www.slapmafro.com/movies/MonsterFarmBashIHPIHighlights.wmv)

It's 3:23 in length, about 8.5 megs. It's all Savage and NMT stuff. Some overlap from the last one, but a lot of different stuff.

Give me 10 days and I'll be back there again, and I'll be landing better!

[RandyT]

Has anyone had trouble with the Hot Bodies Clutch Shoes~? I broke one when trying to put it in, so I purchased another set. I used the stock springs instead of the ones supplied and when I started up my motor, one of the shoes just disenegrated.

[Killboy]

Originally posted by RandyT
Has anyone had trouble with the Hot Bodies Clutch Shoes~? I broke one when trying to put it in, so I purchased another set. I used the stock springs instead of the ones supplied and when I started up my motor, one of the shoes just disenegrated.

Yes, the material is very soft and you have to be careful not to deform it AT ALL. I did the same thing to my first set. This second set has been through a few tanks and seems to be holding up fine. I am using the stronger springs that came with them.

I haven't had any experience with aluminum clutch shoes, but everyone is saying they work great. I can not for the life of me wrap my head around the concepte that a harder material offers better grip against a metal surface than a softer material, but I may check some out if I have any more trouble out of these HB clutch shoes.

[RandyT]

Thanks, with the stock springs the clutch engages to early, but I'll run it to see if I can burn off some of the shoe, if not, I guess I'll try something else. Have you read anywhere if people have tried the HPI or MIP racing clutches on the Savage~?

[doesgo]

I'm running a Kyosho two-shoe circumferential clutch (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXT902), but there are many others that work as well. The hot setup seems to be the Mugen aluminum shoes, but I haven't tried them yet.

[pumpkinfish]

doesgo, what flywheel can I use with that clutch? Also, do you think it will work well with the Picco .26?

[pumpkinfish]

doesgo, what flywheel can I use with that clutch? Also, do you think it will work well with the Picco .26?

[Grifter]

Here's a cool Mod that was posted in the Maxx Traxx Forum by RCNitroTalk...

Savage Cold Air Intake (http://www.rcnitrotalk.com/reviews/21coldair.htm)

[RushMan86]

Wheres the cheapest place to buy a Picco. .26 engine. And do you think it will out perform a hyper 8 port in a pirate 10 with a 2spd?

[RushMan86]

Also wat would be a good engine to drop in the savage besides the 8-port, picco 26 and the 247 from XTM. Also who makes aftermarket heads for the .21BB engine... I wanna drop it in my rush when i get my new engine but it needs a new cooling head bad. Thanks guys!

[bomber 1]

hello i am wondering about the savage i have a chance to buy one with a half of tank of gas through it for 350 bucks is this a good truck does much break and if so what should i get it thank you

[sport coupe]

if your looking for a cooling head check out www.teamduze.com

[RushMan86]

I was looking for more along the lines of a crazy nut cooling head type like that. But if not avialable(sp) I will go with the team duze fridge head.
Heres my dads savage in action:

[RushMan86]

heres a full over view of our bashing area

[newracer]

Crazy Nut makes one for the .21bb, I have one it's nice

[RushMan86]

Its not on there website?

[newracer]

it is on their website

www.crazynutracing.com/default.php/cPath/30/sort/2a/page/2



http://www.crazynutracing.com/images/SAVAGE%20001.jpg

[RushMan86]

Thanks for the correction and the information....d*ck

[newracer]

I was just being a smart ass, can't take a little constructive criticism eh?:rolleyes:

[RushMan86]

:D I apologize. Little jumpy... its nice out and I'm stuck with a fried spur...sorry man.

[coolracer47]

check this out!!!

Its a twin engine powered savage I cant believe what im seeing!!!


http://nest.planetrocke.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=34&t=142&

[CHEVYMAN07]

How do yall like the savage? I have a cv-rx powered t-maxx and e-maxx and was wondering if it was better then the t-maxx (I love my e-maxx. How does it fair on the track? How durable is it at the bmx tracks? How fast would the savage go with a hyper 8 port? How reliable and easy to tune is the hyper 8 port and the stock 21 bb? And would you rather have a lightning pro or a savage? Thank you for replying

[SAVAGESAM]

Originally posted by newracer
I got the 5945 in mine .13 sec and 181 oz!!!:D (okie talk on) fer dat der servo?

[SAVAGESAM]

Originally posted by TEAMDUZE
Don't worry about it. Most people that have the .21ss motor from HPI will tell you that theres does the same thing.

Mine does it and it is usually telling you that fuel has entered the chamber and that she should be close to starting.

I have a T and a Savage. The Savage runs FAR more often than the T :D

Thanks
Duze ......How about some side by side and from above pics. plz.

[SAVAGESAM]

39 pages D@#n!!!!!!!1

[CHEVYMAN07]

Can someone help me?

[jcole1976]

Originally posted by CHEVYMAN07
How do yall like the savage? Thank you for replying i have a savage and i wouldn't want anything else. it handles extremely well. i took it out to my local track a couple of weeks ago and was amazed at how easy it was to drive. i have the hyper 8 port and it rocks, runs as fast as the stock engine at 80 degrees cooler. if i run the hyper at around 270 degrees the truck will hit about 40 mph. i'm extremely! amazed at how durable the savage is and i can't stress "extremely" enough. i've run 1 and 1/2 gallons through the truck and the only thing i've broken is dogbones and a gear in the stock steering servo and that's it! got HB cvd's and used a hitec servo from my clod to replace the servo and have had no more problems. both the hyper and the stock engine are impressively easy to tune and i've had 0 problems with reliability. both engines start within 2 pulls and i've overheated both (330 degrees) with no apparent side effects. trust me, get a savage and you will definitely not be dissapointed.

[hpimonster]

I am deciding between the Savage and the hyper 7 could any of you give me information on the Savage (besides how sick it looks) are there any problems out of the box, I know that its not the fastest thing out there. Oh, and one more question does it do wheelies. I like wheelies :D:D :D alot

[bomber 1]

hey i am getting a savage i cant wait but first i have to sell my evader st so if any one wants it or knows some one who does check it out on ebay it is call evader st everything and more.
please help me out

[hpimonster]

this forum is dead

[CHEVYMAN07]

How durable is the savage compared to the t-maxx? I have the t-maxx with a cv-rx and would like to know how much of a difference between the savage and my t-maxx. I want a very reliable truck and my t-maxx has dissapointed me but then again I cant tune worth a crap! lol. And should I get the savage or the lightning. thanks again. and yea, this forum is pretty dead. Later

[newracer]

I have not had a T-maxx but I had an E-maxx and the Savage is way more durable and the suspension works a lot better. I have bashed my truck hard and broken very little.

I have had no problems tuning the engine and it runs great and very fast.

[hpimonster]

Hopefully I should be able to order the savage this friday probiding the paycheck allows it. If I do get the savage I wont be able to runit until I get the money for fuel and gow igniter and fuel bottle. Is there anything I should know about break in on this beast?? And is it very hard to tune?? I hear the dogbones are prone to breaking How much are the after market ones??

[RandyT]

Like 13 bucks for the HPI heavy duty ones. They hold up very well.

[hpimonster]

13 bucks! pretty cheap I figured they would be around 30 being that hpi stuff is usually pretty expensive. They hold up well? cool that way I know before hand my thirteen bucks is being put to good use. Cant wait till friday I might order my savage:D :D if I have the money hopefully that will not be a problem.

[newracer]

I haven't broken a single dog bone. Just follow the instructions on the break in and you will be fine.

[sport coupe]

i broke down an bought the jump start from hot bodies. I really like that feature.no more pull start for me. I was getting a little hard on pull start so i went to the jump start.:D

[SAVAGESAM]

today, bro-in-law is picking up a T-maxx friday. Will do some side by side comparisons asap.

[TitansGT4]

do the pins fall out of the hot bodies CVD's easily? and if they do, how can u prevent this?

[RandyT]

hpimonster, that's $13/pair, and they do hold up well. I broke four dogbones, 3 on the front left tire alone, switched to the Heavy Duty ones and hadn't broken one since. 'Knock on wood'

[hpimonster]

13 bucks a pair isnt to shabby if they last long how did you break the sotck dogbones?? Damn I cant get the savage this friday hopefully sometime next week though.

[RandyT]

We just go out and bash in an empty lot, so I couldn't really tell you why or how, just everything is a jump and all hills are there to climb.

[blaze242]

has anybody ever tried this mod? please post your pics.. i want to know or see how you modified the rear shock tower..

[Skribble]

I'm going to have about $800 soon once I sell my XXX, and was wondering what parts actually make a different. The problem is, my LHS doesn't stock HPI parts so several part are going aluminum .. What would be a good list of upgrades for around $400? I'm been thinking about al. arms (Integy, Kippster, other?), HB Extended TVPs or HCR Ti. TVPs, Al. Shocks (HB, Integy?). :confused:

Definately getting:
$026. Proline Velocity Rims; Yellow.
$0??. HD Dogbones. (Kippster, Racers Edge, HB, or HPI?)
$040. Hitec 645MG Servo.
$050. RB Concepts 086 Pipe; Black.
$020. RB Concepts Buggy Racing Filter.
$030. 1000mAH battery + charger.

If you have any other suggestions, please post. And this is mainly going to be a Racing Truck.

[newracer]

aluminum arms are a waste of money, the kit ones are very durable.

[sasonrally]

I would say the same thing. Stay away from aluminum arms. IF anything aside from some of the things you mentioned already, invest on some 4lbs springs, do not get the aluminum shocks IMO they are not as flexible when doing huge jumps.

Upgrade the engine if you want lots of power, but along with the engine make sure you have some stronger center rear/front drive train CVD's Don't forget the tires to go with your rims,

The truck is very strong so getting aluminum parts may just be a bling bling thing for you. I would hate to replace bent aluminum.

I'd say replace broken parts with better ones as they break.

[Skribble]

Okay, I'm ditching aluminum and going with the Picco .26 or maybe a S7. How hard is the Picco to tune? This is going to be my first nitro car (Unless you count a Nitro 4-TEC for less then a month; crashed it 'cause reciever pack went dead.). This time I'm buying a fail-safe and trs.

As for huge jumps, my track is made for 1/10th scale so it's pretty small along with the jumps .. Are the stock tires any decent?

My list:
$380. HPI Savage.
$053. HB Driveshafts; Front & Rear.
$180. OFNA Picco .26.
$050. RB 086 Pipe; Black.
$030. RB Buggy Racing Filter.
$010. Inline Fuel Filter; Large.
$040. Hitec 645MG Servo.
$024. Ofna Fail Safe.
$035. 1000mAH Reciever pack & charger.

[hpimonster]

380 for a savage where are you getting it?? the cheapest I found was 390!

[coolracer47]

Im having problems with my savage. I just finished rebuilding it after running threw mud at the track. Now after putting it all back together i start it up and all the power is going to the front and very little to the rear. both of the center driveshafts are in. what could be wrong??thanks

[blaze242]

i've had this same problem..it's your rear wheels, check the wheel the hex hub is probably stripped. the stock wheels are made with weak plastic. i even loctite my wheel nuts too. i'm using stock tmax wheels and using stock savage tires..working really good so far! got all four wheels from ebay for 9.00 dollars......

[Skribble]

Originally posted by hpimonster
380 for a savage where are you getting it?? the cheapest I found was 390! My LHS. :p

[FrankT]

I just got mine threw Tower Hobby $399 -$25 coupon Total $375.I just got it this weekend.I put on a fail safe,a RB 86 hard coated pipe.I also have a hpi performance air filter ,fuel filter coming.is there anything that anyone could recomend.how about the shock oils...should I change them if so ..what weight..oh also I did'nt no that those silver wheel nut were such a pain to get off.here are a couple photo's.

[FrankT]

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[coolracer47]

I fixed it. This little piece cause my rear wheels not to move and sent me home early at the track.

[Skribble]

Do the wheels come glued? And I added some stuff to my list:

$029. Mugen Complete Clutch.
$037. MIP On-board Temp. Gauge.

[newracer]

:D double post

[newracer]

Originally posted by Skribble
Okay, I'm ditching aluminum and going with the Picco .26 or maybe a S7. How hard is the Picco to tune? This is going to be my first nitro car (Unless you count a Nitro 4-TEC for less then a month; crashed it 'cause reciever pack went dead.). This time I'm buying a fail-safe and trs.

As for huge jumps, my track is made for 1/10th scale so it's pretty small along with the jumps .. Are the stock tires any decent?

My list:
$380. HPI Savage.
$053. HB Driveshafts; Front & Rear.
$180. OFNA Picco .26.
$050. RB 086 Pipe; Black.
$030. RB Buggy Racing Filter.
$010. Inline Fuel Filter; Large.
$040. Hitec 645MG Servo.
$024. Ofna Fail Safe.
$035. 1000mAH Reciever pack & charger.

since this is your first nitro stick with the kit motor until you are more experienced

I'd add a better throttle/brake linkage and steering servo saver to your list

[Skribble]

Originally posted by newracer
since this is your first nitro stick with the kit motor until you are more experienced

I'd add a better throttle/brake linkage and steering servo saver to your list Well, I have a couple friends that could help me out on tuning, and the only time I'm probably going to be driving this thing is at the LHS. I read up on tuning and all that and it doesn't all that hard either (Well, I did a long time ago and forgot everything now, but I got a couple mags. that explain it all). :)

[newracer]

then make sure you don't even pull the pullstart on the kit engine. just put it on e-bay brand new you should get at least $100 for it

[FrankT]

also is it normal for your kit to come with extra dogbones??
Thanks
Frank

[Skribble]

I'm going to get Monster Pirate servo saver and shave my hubs ..

[RandyT]

also is it normal for your kit to come with extra dogbones??

You received extra dogbones in your box~?