Kyosho MP7.5 Kanai I/II Forum

[RustlerBoy]

hey, will a 777 body fit the Kanai 1....

[dgrobe2112]

no.. its not wide enough to fit...

[RustlerBoy]

oh... what parts from any of the buggies will fit the Kanai 1?

Is anything able to fit?

[RustlerBoy]

wilmost of the Kanai buggies fit? And what are the hopups that I should be gettingfor it right now. It has the King Headz rear chassis stiffener.... what alse do i need.

[RustlerBoy]

also, does anyone have an instrution manual they can loan me or sell me? I dont know anything about this buggy, and I need to nkow how to work on it... let me know... thnaks

[dgrobe2112]

all the MP7.5 K1, 2, and 3 will work on your K1.. i would prolly get the front chassis brace to go along with the rear..

you can download the manual from the Kyosho website..

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/download/instructionmanual/buggy/buggycar_index-e.html

[RustlerBoy]

score... thank u very much

[RustlerBoy]

so... lets get this thread going again, i know i cant be the only guy with a kanai....

[A Main Racer]

My friend just got an OFNA ultra comp and when i compare my Inferno 7.5 to it, I realize how much of a POS mine is. I wish I would have bought the OFNA since they are almost the same price. Kyosho totally dropped the ball on this one. This car should be sold at Walmart. I know Kyosho has lots of records under their belt but this car has convinced me to never buy another Kyosho. Car is 3 weeks old and I cant stand to look at it. It is held together with sheetrock screws. The motor is slow and overheats like mad. Shocktowers are so thin they will bend very easy. Shocks get stuck when fully compressed. Doesnt have turnbuckles. Everything has phillips head screws. Header bolts on so you cant buy a good one for it or use it on anything else. Spur gear is plastic. Clutch is a 2 shoe. If you buy a new motor you have to get a motor mount and header. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[dgrobe2112]

My friend just got an OFNA ultra comp and when i compare my Inferno 7.5 to it, I realize how much of a POS mine is. I wish I would have bought the OFNA since they are almost the same price. Kyosho totally dropped the ball on this one. This car should be sold at Walmart. I know Kyosho has lots of records under their belt but this car has convinced me to never buy another Kyosho. Car is 3 weeks old and I cant stand to look at it. It is held together with sheetrock screws. The motor is slow and overheats like mad. Shocktowers are so thin they will bend very easy. Shocks get stuck when fully compressed. Doesnt have turnbuckles. Everything has phillips head screws. Header bolts on so you cant buy a good one for it or use it on anything else. Spur gear is plastic. Clutch is a 2 shoe. If you buy a new motor you have to get a motor mount and header. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

yeah, im sorry but your are absolutlyy correct.. the RTR kyosho is a joke.. however... the kit form, and the Kanai cars are way better.. ofna does sell a great RTR car.. however, Kyosho kits are the best.. you can go to www.racers-edge.com to get new shock towers.. they are marked down right now..

[-=ADA$=-]

i got a bit used (but moded) sport, and after about a gallon with P5 on board (before there was sirio EVO2) front U-joints ( the one that transfers power from center dog bone to front diff) has such horrible wear, it has about 3 mm groove!!!
I need to replace it and sell it :D

[A Main Racer]

yeah, im sorry but your are absolutlyy correct.. the RTR kyosho is a joke.. however... the kit form, and the Kanai cars are way better.. ofna does sell a great RTR car.. however, Kyosho kits are the best.. you can go to www.racers-edge.com to get new shock towers.. they are marked down right now..
Sorry I had to vent. My point is: If you plan on doing anything serious with your buggy, dont buy an Inferno RTR.
I think they are out of the shock towers cause i cant find them.

[fasteddie9111]

hi,
i got a question, i have a kanai mp7.5, and it is a little rough and i was thinking of upgrading some parts, or maybe selling this one and getting a mp777 for a little more than the amount i would try to sell my buggy for, what do you guys think i should go with? thanks.

[A Main Racer]

I would buy a Hyper 7 or a Jammin.

[fasteddie9111]

how come? why shouldn't i try to fix up my current buggy a little, or why should i not get the mp777(standard one), this is strictly for bashing too. thanks.

[A Main Racer]

I have a 7.5 I got 2 weeks ago. I have spent more money on it just to keep it going. If I would have taken that money I could have bought a real buggy to start with.

[EZM]

What does the kanai 2 and 3 have that the kanai 1 doesnt? how much better are those kanai buggies? thanks im just trying to get into 1/8 scale,but never owned one before.

[EZM]

also how can i identify a kanai 1?

[dgrobe2112]

the K1, and K2 are almost exactly the same with some updated front end, and rear end stuff, the K3, changed the front upper arm and lower arms, and added length to the shock shafts, looking at them side by side.. you will have a hard time telling the difference.. a Kanai 2 or 3 are gonna be great cars to start off with, you can get them at a great price.. and they are great cars..

[FranktheTank]

Anybody out there still wheeling the 7.5's? :)

Also, does anyone have a source for O.S. parts? Looking for a piston/sleeve and rod for my V01B (old!!)

[dgrobe2112]

there is a couple 7.5's here locally.. but most have upgraded to the 777. I know someone who has some VO1B stuff.. dwayne.grantham@earthlink.net

[freddan]

This matters the standard diffs (not the TCD diffs)
Are the diffs in the kanai cars of good quality? I mean the bevel gears are of cast aluminium (and Mugen MBX-5 has steel bevel gears).

Do the diffs in the kanai cars really take hours of racing? Is the reputation that kanai cars diffs are really tough? thanks.

[freddan]

What kind of oil is the red TCD oil which comes with the kanai kit? Is it gear oil for automobiles – therefore I can buy a can of oil from Texaco, Mobil1 or Shell?

[FranktheTank]

there is a couple 7.5's here locally.. but most have upgraded to the 777. I know someone who has some VO1B stuff.. dwayne.grantham@earthlink.net

Thanks, DG....I'll shoot him an e-mail.

[FranktheTank]

Just fyi..... most parts for these cars can still be found at Kyosho USA :)

[freddan]

This matters the standard diffs (not the TCD diffs)
Are the diffs in the kanai cars of good quality? I mean the bevel gears are of cast aluminium (and Mugen MBX-5 has steel bevel gears).

Do the diffs in the kanai cars really take hours of racing? Is the reputation that kanai cars diffs are really tough? thanks.

[dgrobe2112]

yes.. they are very tough, ring and pinion are of hardened steel.. i rarely have a failure with diffs, unless i did something wrong.

Also, the 7.5 diffs are the same as the MP777 diffs

[dubdeuce]

hey your not the only one still with a kanai. I hane a k2, and two k3's one fully loaded.

[FranktheTank]

Still upgrading my K2 and am now working on a deal on an upgraded 777 SP1. Doesn't have all Racer's Edge stuff like the Kanai, so I'll probably end up just letting the girlfriend race the 777 until she gets tired of it ;)

[Danno]

I just got a K-3 ! Upgrading from a Lightning pro1 !

[Fast68]

Hi all, I just got a Kanai 2, what parts, if any, are interchangeable between Kyosho buggys, it seems that it's hard to find parts.

Joe :confused:

[dgrobe2112]

all 7.5 parts are interchangeable with each other.. arms, braces, knuckles, universals.. K3, had an updated front shock tower.. www.racers-edge.com has alot of MP7.5 parts for really cheap..

[FranktheTank]

To add to what Daniel said, Kyosho USA should also have any factory parts unique to the 7.5 that you should need, like arms, chassis, bodies, etc. Just have the part numbers handy :)

[dgrobe2112]

use your exploded view in the manual.. should have all the part numbers there.

[Onlynitro]

I have a question that may have already been answered. I have a Kanai 2 and I've seen where people have updated their Kanai 2's and Kanai 3's with the 777 front end. :cool:

Could anyone please provide information on exactly what I need to do to update my Kanai 2 to the 777 front end. I think they are using 777sp2 parts (correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks to anyone who has time to help me.

Scott S.

[AZRCaddict]

Yes I would also like some info ^/\^/\^/\

[balang_479]

OK.. i did a couple of months ago and its not that hard.

The basic things you need are the new
-777 chassis (if you get the SP2 the center shafts as well).
- Radio tray as the holes are different.
- Servo saver kit (you can do with the old one but its may be a bit stiff and trimming in needed).
- Upper front suspension arms
- ackerman plate
- 777 hub carriers.
- front upper pins ( as they are longer)
- front upper pin mount
- side mud guards.

to complete to a SP2 you could also get
- front and rear shock mounts
- front and rear reinforced suspension arms
- body (it is thinner so no dirt enters from the side

and that is it... i spent just 250 bucks for everything from eBay including shipping, and if you compare it too a new SP2 (700 to 800 bucks) than its a bargain.
Since then i have further completed it and now its a complete SP2..
If you want to save money then you have to go to eBay.. amazing prices and there is absolutely everything..

Balang_479

[dgrobe2112]

700-800 bux.. for a new SP2.. wow.. i think they are bout 550 here..

[balang_479]

Damn... everything in Italy is really over priced.. the lowest you could find it here in Italy is for 600 and thats Euros... about 751 bucks..

same with everythign else.. thats why i order everything from America,, the shipping cost is less than the price of it here so its better

[Mika]

Remember to add tolls&taxes when ordering from US (outside EU)

[marctroy]

We just came back from our yearly driving vacation in Italy (Lake Cuomo down to Rome) and I couldn't get over how high the RC prices were, especially on the Italian engines. I was told that the manufacturers insist that European retailers keep their prices high to protect the (large) American market by discouraging individuals from bringing engines back to the States.

Shippers from the United States shouldn't be charging tax since the material is for export and, therefore, not taxable. Try www.BrucknerHobbies.com. or emailing tbaffer@aol.com. Danny Baffer runs their Export Department, knows his stuff, great pricing and he's really easy to deal with.

[Mika]

The problem is in our end (at least in Finland); however, it is possible to claim the product is originally italian and therefore in EU but it rarely helps if at all. With Japanese origin like Kyosho it really does not help at all.

[balang_479]

Yeah engines are **** over priced...

EVEN THE ITALIAN ONES...

[balang_479]

Yeah engines are **** over priced...

EVEN THE ITALIAN ONES... its crazy.. its generally because their all modiefied Novas, like Max Fantini engines and they go through a hell of a lot of hand labour.. but yeah expensive...

we pay around 350 euros (400 bucks) for a good engine.. and hop ups cost too

[Mika]

Italian are the best anyway :D Never mind the cost

[balang_479]

With you there, although the Sirio was cheap compared to the others. payed 220 euros while RBs are like from 280 (C3) to 350 (C5).

[buggie_boy]

hey guys, need some help i've been told a landmax II 2-speed will fit in a mp 7.5 dose anyone know that it will fit or if theres another 2-speed like the hyper 7 that will fit. the reason i'am asking because my friend wants one.

thanks

brad

[cerpindicular]

OK.. i did a couple of months ago and its not that hard.

The basic things you need are the new
-777 chassis (if you get the SP2 the center shafts as well).
- Radio tray as the holes are different.
- Servo saver kit (you can do with the old one but its may be a bit stiff and trimming in needed).
- Upper front suspension arms
- ackerman plate
- 777 hub carriers.
- front upper pins ( as they are longer)
- front upper pin mount
- side mud guards.

to complete to a SP2 you could also get
- front and rear shock mounts
- front and rear reinforced suspension arms
- body (it is thinner so no dirt enters from the side

and that is it... i spent just 250 bucks for everything from eBay including shipping, and if you compare it too a new SP2 (700 to 800 bucks) than its a bargain.
Since then i have further completed it and now its a complete SP2..
If you want to save money then you have to go to eBay.. amazing prices and there is absolutely everything..

Balang_479
So if I had a bone stock mp 7.5 (not a kanai but not a sport or aleast I am pretty sure it isn't) that would be all I need. What if I decided to go in the direction of a k3 conversion what would I need then?

[balang_479]

If you want a complete K3 conversion youd rather change it to a 777. The differences are not great, but you would have to change many many parts such as chassis, cvds, diffs, front hubs and upper arms. The 777 conversion does not give you a complete 777, but you have the new777 suspension and weight distribution (the 7.5 and 777 dont actually differ that much). What i have found is buy a 300 bucks used 777 SP2 with engine, so you have two.

[cerpindicular]

WEll the only problem with that is that I am getting in a new jammin x1-cr factory team so I don't really need 3 buggies I was actually going to sell my 7.5 but was thinking of keeping her around a while for nostalgia reasons.

[T/Losi]

My K3 was built when I got it and my rear wheel is wobbly and I have started taking it apart and I am now up to the shaft going throught the hub. Is there anything holding the shaft in there as no matter how hard I try to move the shaft out of the hub, it won't budge?

Cheers

[dgrobe2112]

YES, use your 2.5mm wrench, there is a set screw in the end of the universal. loosen it, the 17mm hex, has a pin going through it. tap that out, and the unis will come out.

[T/Losi]

Yeah, I have taken the 17mm hex off but the uni wont come out

Cheers

[Danno]

It`s stuck in the bearing , wd-40 , let it sit for a while , it should come out .

[dgrobe2112]

yeah.. WD-40.. and let it sit.. move back and forth.. the WD40 should also make the bearing come out of the hub easier as well..

[Dan H]

I got a used buggy recently. I think its an MP7.5 sports. But does anyone know if the 777 chassis is interchangeable? Or are the holes off?

[balang_479]

I got a used buggy recently. I think its an MP7.5 sports. But does anyone know if the 777 chassis is interchangeable? Or are the holes off?

Th holes are off. you would need a 777 radio tray, upper deck plate, and front stabalizer.

[Dan H]

Oh ok, thanks for the info!!

[T/Losi]

I am having trouble shimming my clutch on my K.3. Which shims/washers are you using?

Cheers

[dgrobe2112]

5X7 shim set.. kyosho part number 96643

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/4142

[T/Losi]

My chassis is around 1 gallon old and my rear shock is leaking really bad. Would that be the o-rings in the shock? Can I just buy the IFW140-05 O-ring rebuild kit?

Cheers

[balang_479]

it depends were the oil is coming from, if it from the shaft then yeah, a new o-ring kit will be fine, but if its from the cap youll need to sand the shark edges so that the bladder is not pierced, but i believe its just a o-ring problem, just remember to keep them damp with WD-40 (or what ever) so that they dotn dry up and crack.

[dgrobe2112]

well done balang.. :) if you over fill the shock.. it will blow out the seals and such.. you may have done that..

[led1977]

i just bought a used k2 off of ebay i was wondering if there are any weak points in the car im new to the buggy scene but i have a st us sport i just liked what i saw the buggys could tear up most of the truggys in most parts of the track

[dgrobe2112]

the buggy is a great buggy.. you shouldnt have any trouble with it

[balang_479]

yeah nothing in the k2 or 3 is weak... just keep and eye on those outer diff gears.

[led1977]

ive yet to recieve it did it have the torsen diff or was that an optional part or something

[dgrobe2112]

i beleive it came with one or2 lsd diffs.. the k3 i beleive didnt.. cant remember..

[led1977]

does anyone know where i can get these stickers

[balang_479]

I want them too, i believe they are from Upgrade-RC...

Or you could always get some from Maugrafix
http://www.maugrafix.com/images/Sezioni_Prodotti/Logo_Section/MGFX-KYO-002.gif

[led1977]

i tried to find some from upgrade but the link for logo kits isnt working for me does anyone know where i could see these

[balang_479]

it doesnt work for me either but you can see them at A Main Hobbies i noticed.

[led1977]

do any of you guys have a used .21 engine that your looking to sell i bought a new os .21 vg and its a piece of crap it wont start and now the piston starting to chunk apart

[led1977]

do you guys have any recomendations for a setup with a kanai 2 on a small hard packed clay track

[Danno]

I have the VG and it has been wonderful for Me . 1 1/2 gal. and keeps getting faster .

[psiturbo]

do any of you guys have a used .21 engine that your looking to sell i bought a new os .21 vg and its a piece of crap it wont start and now the piston starting to chunk apart


Are you serious?

The VG .21 is one of the most reliable engines ever. You certainly are one in a million.

I am not kidding, that engine may not be the fastest, but is almost indestructible. The sleeve in that engine is ridiculously thick.

[Danno]

Properly tuned my VG will idle for 7 minutes ..
You must have got that one bad one . Or it wasn`t broken in properly .

[led1977]

No I Never Got To Break It In It Never Would Start I Used A Heat Gun To Warm It Up But It Would Never Kick Over And Fire Up And Everything Was Adjusted Right

[led1977]

Last Night Was My First Night Out It Was Just Practice But I Did Good Except My Vspec Has Got An Airleak Somewhere Because Its Running Very Very Lean And The One Thing I Forgot To Do When I Bought It Was Check The Center Diff For Fluid Which Came Back To Bite Me In The Butt

[balang_479]

whats the point in wasting time in putting capitals infront on each word?

[led1977]

i didnt thats how the dealerships computer types

[balang_479]

oh rite,,,, thats weird :)

[led1977]

yea i dont even notice anymore

[led1977]

does anyone know how to set up the tcd diffs and if i do is it worth it over the gear diffs

[dgrobe2112]

how to set up the TCD diffs?? very similar to the standard diffs, use the red oil in front, use the black oil in the rear.. personally, the LSD diffs are not all they are cracked up to be. which is why most of the team guys, and the new cars done come with them anymore.

[gtwerks]

Hello, what is the price of this OS .21 VG engine ?

I was also looking at the O.S. .21 VZ-B V-Spec-T (P)

[Danno]

$149.00

[gtwerks]

Thanks Danno. And what I would have more if I pick a 200.00 USD OS engine ?? Just asking newbee questions in order to have more notion a bit of everything regarding 1/8 buggy racing.

[led1977]

does anyone know the best way to remove the bearings from the motor

[AreCee]

Strip the block and bake it in an oven for 10 to 15 minutes at 350 degrees. Tap it on a wooden block and the bearings will come out.

[led1977]

thanks

[hardrider]

Hi, I'm new to GP buggies.
I just "inherited" a unbuilt MP7.5
Is it convertible to a Kanai spec car? K1, K2 or K3?
What would I need to do it?

[atm92484_3]

Most of the aluminum parts are different (7075 alloy instead of 6061 and the shock towers have some different holes/geometry), the K1/K2/K3 have universals, the K2/3 have shocks with thicker shafts, some more ball bearings (for the steering), more brake disks, limit slip diffs, 3 shoe clutches, different engine mounts, and some other small stuff I'm forgetting.

I've been out of the loop for awhile, but you could probably get most of these parts pretty cheap on Ebay.

[dgrobe2112]

i think you could get a whole K3 off ebay for cheap. :)

[-=ADA$=-]

yeah, with some luck You can score one almost new, my friend got one recently for i think $350 with OPS motor, and no play in the suspension, all shiny and barely run.

[hardrider]

Thanks for the pointers. Will be hanging around ebay for a while hehe

[balang_479]

i thought your name was hair dryer..:D

[hardrider]

i thought your name was hair dryer..:D

Hahaha that's a good one!
So anyone knows where to get some nice Fioroni parts a good prices?

[dgrobe2112]

www.racers-edge.com has great products.. dont fade.. look new all the time.. just as tough, if not tougher due to hard anodizing.. also.. they got alot of k3 parts on sale.. cheaper than fioroni

[balang_479]

Hahaha that's a good one!
So anyone knows where to get some nice Fioroni parts a good prices?

The best thing would be to order them from europe... Or even better Italy, but i dont know anyshops which ship internationally..

Ill have a look and report back....

[hardrider]

Thanks! Look forward to your update!
Racer's edge stuff looks like good value for money!

[dgrobe2112]

great value for the money.. i know fioroni blue, and black anodizing will come off the top of the towers.. sure.. some comes off the racers edge stuff.. but not noticeable..

[hardrider]

I think anything anodised will come off when scraped.
Just wanna doll up my very stock 7.5. (It's a new built)
Converting it to a Kanai spec would be very very nice.

[rammol]

can someone please post a pic of their kanai 2 i just bought a kanai and dontknow what version it is i think its a kanai 2 but i just want to make sure.

[dgrobe2112]

there is 3 different versions.. with very small changes to it.. from the original Kanai.. then the K2, then the K3

[Danno]

I have some k3 racers edge parts if anyone might be interested . I`ll try to post pics tonight .

[dgrobe2112]

www.racers-edge.com has 7.5 pro parts on sale.. at their website

[ste131]

Hi All,

Just registered and can't post a new thread, so hope some of you might be able to answer a question.

I've just pulled my old Inferno MP7.5 Sport to repair the engine (GS21R). One new liner and piston and it runs a treat. The only problem is the rubber joint between the manifold and the exhaust is split.

Firstly, can you still buy these?
Secondly, If not will the GX21 manifold fit?

Any help would be appreciated. I need to kick my son's a$$ when we go out with his HPI MT2.

Thanks,
Steve.

[dgrobe2112]

hey steve.. sorry i missed this thread.. i am not familiar with the sports version of these cars.. so.. i cant help.. but you should call kyosho america direct.. they will be able to help you.

[atm92484_3]

Steve, that rubber coupler is a pretty generic rc part. As long as its for a 1/8 car or a .21+ engine, it will work.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRHP5&P=7

This one should do the trick. It looks like you'll just need some zip ties to hold everything in place.

[BFLY]

Hello,
I have just picked up 2 kyosho buggy's one is an MP6 the other is a 7.5. They are both in great shape an run great. I want to use them to get into racing for fun. After doing some research, I have no clue about these models as far as what works with what, part wise or where to find spares. Hell not even sure what the weak points are on these buggy's.

I'm not new to Nitro or this hobby just want to step it up from just parking lot bashing.

So any help or advise would be greatly accepted.