Kyosho MP-6

[Madaz]

rc10bob, A few parts would be interchangeable like, wheels, shocks, ...etc but basically its a totally different car so i wouldnt bother trying to convert it. (the price of kyosho parts would make it uneconomical even if the parts would fit)

Just enjoy your MP6, it will drive virtually the same as a mp7.5 anyway.. unless your racing competitivly there would be few advantages, some people probably still race them :D :D

The only downfall is that mp6 parts may be a little harder to get.

[C.J.OO]

Has anyone got a fuel tank for sale.?. I need one badly..Ill take three but one will do I need as many spairs as I can get...

[Radio Acer]

Hello everyone, I have an original landmax, which i beleive is based on the MP-6 buggy (correct me if I'm wrong), and i have a slight problem. the gear mesh is not set correctly and when I looked at the bottom of the chassis then there was no way to adjust the motor position, there were no slots in the chassis. So I'm just wondering if the chassis is the same on the MP-6, and if so, how do you adjust the gear mesh? Thanks in advance.

[Tucker01]

The original Landmax is based on the original Inferno/Inferno DX/Turbo Inferno/Inferno DXII series, mainly the DXII.

There is no way to adjust gear mesh with the standard Kyosho engine on the standard DX/DXII/Landmax chassis. Are you using the standard size (13T I think) clutchbell?

If you do need to adjust gear mesh you'll have to purchase the engine mount kit (part no BS025). This mounts to the side rails on the engine (so you wont be using the mounting holes in the bottom of the crankcase), and then to plates which attach to the chassis.

Hope that helps.

Incidentally, the new Landmax II is based on the MP-7.5.

[Radio Acer]

I'll buy them as soon as I can find them. But i have the 2 speed transmission, not the 13T clutch bell, I hope that doesn't change anything or mess up the instalation of the mounts. And do you by any chance know if Tower carries them? Thanx

[Tucker01]

I don't think that changes anything, and Tower do stock them here. (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU179&P=7)

[cnrtybyathrt]

i am looking for a manual for the mp-6 if anybody has one i will pay for the coping and time you can email me at cnrtybyathrt@aol.com thank you

[Joscoot]

Hello guys. I'm new here and this is my first post from Holland. I want to make a brushless buggy. So i need an good chassis. I can get an Kyosho inferno MP6 rolling chassis, new, for 120 dollar. I think this is a really good offer. But can this buggy handle the brushless power and is it durable? So i didn't have to chance parts after one single ride.

Sorry for my bad english. I hope you can help me.

[donaldstein]

Just want to start a forum for this vehicle since most of ya already know i bought this car last week because for a price of $289 i couldn't resist. Still in parts and finding time to build. I know this car is old but it looks good to me. I've alread started upgrading it b4 i built it. I bough 2 extra brakes and front stablizer. It been a long time and i figure anthing is an upgrade compared to the orginal inferno!

For those of you whom owned this vehicle does will it still be able to keep up with the new 7.5's hyper 7s and mbx-r works on the track? How much torque is required for the brakes?
hi don here i just wanted to know where to get parts to fit my mp-6? aftermarket would be nice amd a manual too gust got on here today and i have been out of rc 1/8 scale along time i have seen a mp6 fittid with mp7.5 parts but i do not know what will fit from mp 7.5

[aa240sx]

hi don here i just wanted to know where to get parts to fit my mp-6? aftermarket would be nice amd a manual too gust got on here today and i have been out of rc 1/8 scale along time i have seen a mp6 fittid with mp7.5 parts but i do not know what will fit from mp 7.5

hey fellas, just curious what might you think this is worth?

http://www.craigslist.org/eby/ele/92176144.html

I know this is an older buggy, but what's a fair asking price?

[dgrobe2112]

that is a pretty clean car.. looks in great shape..

[bjr48]

I have a mp-6 sports that I purchased new before some of the drawbacks of that model were known. I of course have had many troubles with the engine it came with as many of you would know or have heard of with the GS-21R. But it has ran OK for what it is and it gets used so infrequently I wasn't about to invest more money. I'm on my second piston/sleeve and it is probably due for another one this year if I start running it like I want out in the back lot at work this summer. So I have to spend some money anyway.
I have overcome the overheating issue and then some by making my own cylinder head. I actually have gone overboard and it has trouble reaching 200deg with a decent tune. It runs like a dog until it's warmed up now but I can fix that easily by covering up cooling fins and figuring out how many I need to chop off. I've only run it once with the new head so a lot of trouble shooting is still left on that. The pull start is what is frustrating me. With the cheap way they snapped the pullstart together I think it will always be a problem on the GS-21R. I am on my second one way bearing/start shaft combo and I don't recall the new one curing the problem for very long (major slipping). I have read all about fixing one ways in general and nothing seems to help. It will only catch if I push on the back of the case with the right amount of pressure, otherwise it slips. I can clean and grease it, put it back together and it works. Set it on the workbench overnight and come back the next day and it slips already without even running it! It really does not do much for starting the engine. It may be worn out again (shaft smaller than it was from factory from wear) but I know that from the past that does not help for long or much at all on this engine.
I am heavily considering buying one of the Axial 28 engines but do not want to get a new engine if the pull start is the same crap as on the GS. I REALLY do not want to get into starter boxes. I know they are great but what a hassle. It just does not suit me. Can I expect a different pull start to have minimal problems until it is worn out completely or are they all just a pain from the day you get them? I really need some experience here and I know most of you want to talk me into a starter box but I'd appreciate some sound advice from people that still do use their pull start. Are there differences between brands, etc.?
The other concerns I have are adapting to the Axial. I think I just need a motor mount, new flywheel, and exhaust manifold compared to the GS-21R. I already have a pipe. I know I should replace the main plastic gear with the metal one for the new power increase. I don't want to do this if I have to buy more than what I listed.
I know that in general going to a 28 would require some re-gearing but in my case, would the Axial Spec 1 or especially the new RR version actually outrun the GS-21R without changing anything? Even if it ran the same speed I would be OK with having a new engine. Later I could re-gear. I want to do this cheap as possible up front for how often it is used and new gears would cost more money and be hard to find for this buggy.
Oh yeah, I have "upgraded" the front and rear diff by adding the 3rd and 4th small diff gears (sports comes with 2 gear diffs) and sealing with the o-ring kit but they are not the hardened version of gears that come with some other versions of MP-6. The center diff is replaced by a solid spool. Will I have to upgrade the diff gears with the Axial or are they going to be OK with the added power?
I'm sure I am forgetting some other question I have in the back of my mind but this is already more than anybody wants to see at one time anyway :p , so what do you all think?? :confused:

[dgrobe2112]

I dont think you will need to upgrade the diffs.. be sure that they are shimmed correctly.. cuz if i am not mistaken, the ring gear, (bigger gear) on the front and rear diffs, is made of alum, and the pinion gear (smaller gear in the drive box) is harden steel. i known of many RTR buggies, eatin up the ring gear.

As far as the pull start.. i for one will never have one again, first off, they rob power from the engine. if you have trouble starting the engine, you can be pullin on that thing for a long time.. and that sux. i dont think pull starts are gonna be better, the newer they are.. no matter what, its still a pull start, and you will eventually have probs..

[bjr48]

I've got the GS-21R out to check the pinch. Seems to have a little life in it. I still have the first one that was definatly shot (would not stay running). That one I can push the piston up through the sleeve and push it all the way out the top (have to push as hard as I can but it goes through). This current one I can only get 3/4 of the way out the top of the sleeve. Maybe I can use it a little longer but it must be almost worn out if it can push through that far.
The one way was soaked in alcohol and used one way bearing grease on it last time. However, when I took it out it does slip terribly playing with the bearing and shaft by hand. It seems like the only thing on the bearing is still the grease (no signs of fuel oil that I can tell or dirt or anything like that since it only had one day use on it). It seems like the grease is so thick it is not allowing the bearing needles to move and grab the shaft. I may not grease it up this time. They seem to work good after you clean them and then you grease them up and put them in and they don't work almost immediately. Can I clean it and just use a few drops of regular bearing oil like you use on the wheel bearings? I don't know if I want to put it in completely dry.

[dgrobe2112]

yea.. sounds good.

[Knight_B]

Hello everyone , I'm newbie.

my MP5 want to change differential oil can you advice ?

[BFLY]

Where to find parts for the MP6?

[ScrubT]

ebay.

[bjr48]

Not so much on ebay anymore.
Have to buy direct. www.shopkyosho.com
Be creative typing in part numbers. They don't match the list in the owners manual exactly. Use the IF, BS, BSW part numbers, not the KYOxxxx.
Like the manual might say IF-22 but you will not find it until you search for IF022. Once you figure out the system they all seem to follow the same format. It's either stuff like you leave out a space or leave out the dash (-) or replace the dash with a zero.
Calling Kyosho directly also seems to still give good support and help with whatever your questions are. They are friendly people.

[gixxer]

Wow, it's back:). I personally don't like pullstarts and would advise considering investing in a starter box. I recently purchased one after all these years and now asking myself why did i waste my time with the airplane bump start? I just spin and spin until it starts :rolleyes:

[bjr48]

What is the trick to getting dual brakes to fit in the rear? Every flywheel I've ever had in there is too big (?) and the second brake disc ends up touching the flywheel. Actually more than touching becuase with them just touching, the engine would still need to be shifted towards the center of the car more to get the clutch bell to engage with the main gear. This last flywheel is so small I don't even know if a starter box could reach into the chassis far enough to bump it so I don't think smaller flywheel is the answer. :confused:

[gixxer]

I have the 1/8 Off-Road Truggy Starter Box Dual 775 Motors and it works for me.

Too bad they removed my pic from 2001 but I have the smaller flywheel and used the had starter in the past. The starter box is the way to go!

Also my MP6 clocked 54mph with the radar gun and it handles as good as ever. I feel from the orginal inferno to the MP6 was a leep especially with in the same platform.

[bjr48]

Does anyone know where I can buy aluminum front hub carriers to replace the IF5 nylon set for an mp-6? Or at least who used to make them so I can contact the companies and beg them to make me a set?:(:(:(:(:(

[nelio]

Hi, maybe this is a stupid question but dont must of the parts from the MP7.5 fit MP6?

[bjr48]

NOPE. 95% of the parts for the 7.5 won't fit the 6. It was a total redesign.

[wishingfortlt1]

What is the trick to getting dual brakes to fit in the rear? Every flywheel I've ever had in there is too big (?) and the second brake disc ends up touching the flywheel. Actually more than touching becuase with them just touching, the engine would still need to be shifted towards the center of the car more to get the clutch bell to engage with the main gear. This last flywheel is so small I don't even know if a starter box could reach into the chassis far enough to bump it so I don't think smaller flywheel is the answer. :confused:


try a dual disc flywheel from ofna for the hyper 7

[bjr48]

Wow, it's back:). I personally don't like pullstarts and would advise considering investing in a starter box. I recently purchased one after all these years and now asking myself why did i waste my time with the airplane bump start? I just spin and spin until it starts :rolleyes:
I've moved on to an OS VG21 max engine and it was awesome compared to the GS-21R until I realized at the 2.5 gallon mark that this engine is majorly short on piston/sleeve life as agreed by many, many people if you Google it. I expected it to be short on power but the piston did not last long and I'm very disappointed I didn't figure that out before buying. At that point the spring in the pull start failed and I fixed it but it has died the same death as the Kyosho engine. The starter shaft is worn and too small for the bearing to grab any longer. I know this becuase I spent a lot of time studying this on the Kyosho engine and fixed it by making a new starter shaft on my lathe for it that is 0.001" bigger than stock and harder and it will last a long time. It works fine with the two bearings that people always told me were shot. The OS is ready for a new shaft or for me to make a new shaft - the bearing grabs fine on the right size drill bit shaft at the smooth end. I got the sleeve pinched on the OS professionaly and it's still running and I'm currently using the starter box I won off ebay with a roller and I hate it with a passion. Up until the point that a pullstart fails it is convenient and I can get it to usually fire up on the second pull. I feel I've lost touch with my engine with the box. I can never feel how the engine is turning over, you end up turning it over dozens if not 50 -70 times to prime it and fire it up wearing it out the whole time. I also don't buy that the starter wheel does not put too much pressure on the crankshaft through the flywheel. My crankshaft has a lot of play in it now :eek: Yes it is great if you didn't prime it right and would have pull started it for 10 minutes, but the power from the box is really unnececessary I think. I hate that the RB S5 engine I want to buy next year has no pull start option. Just my $0.02 and experience.

[bjr48]

try a dual disc flywheel from ofna for the hyper 7

Thanks for the tip. Is this based on experience, recommendations you've heard, or an educated guess?:confused:

[wishingfortlt1]

Thanks for the tip. Is this based on experience, recommendations you've heard, or an educated guess?:confused:

well, not really from experience so to say...........

i dont own a mp6, but i do have a hyper 7, and i converted to a 4 disc set-up and had to buy the special flywheel, which is off-set to allow clearance for the dual rear discs, so i figured it might also work on your 6

[bjr48]

well, not really from experience so to say...........

i dont own a mp6, but i do have a hyper 7, and i converted to a 4 disc set-up and had to buy the special flywheel, which is off-set to allow clearance for the dual rear discs, so i figured it might also work on your 6

Thanks. This must be the secret. I thought I saw an optional OS flywheel listed in my optional parts list at one time with a similar description but Kyosho could never tell me anything. Sounds like the thing to do. Thanks :wave:

[bjr48]

Does anyone know where I can still get a body for the MP-6 that definately fits? I'm tired of trying to re-attach the front part and repair the several cracks throughout the body. Even though the buggy still runs great I'm not paying $45 to kyosho for one! If that's my only option I'll buy a new tube of shoe goo!:o It looks ok from the outside but it is getting tiresome to repair.

[dgrobe2112]

http://www.vansinvent.com/rebuild/vansinventrb/html/wldfire.html

i found on a forum that maybe some other MP bodies will fit, like the MP7.5 and such..

[bjr48]

http://www.vansinvent.com/rebuild/vansinventrb/html/wldfire.html

i found on a forum that maybe some other MP bodies will fit, like the MP7.5 and such..

I saw that vansinvent link last night. It was the only body I could find other than the overpriced genuine original Kyosho body. Maybe I'll call the phone # on the "painting page" link to see if anyone answers. The price is OK but maybe they are not in business anymore or not making that old body?

I think all of the newer ones require a lot of modifications to work from what I understood?

[bjr48]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=231647

I may just send an e-mail anyway but nothing on the site has been updated since 2005!

[bjr48]

Anyone still reading this have opinions on a complete clutch and flywheel setup? I am still club racing my MP6 and will buy a RB S5 next spring unless RB comes out with something different under $250 in 2009.
I need flywheel, shoes, springs, clutch bell.
I have a couple of ideas in mind but I'm looking for opinions based on the MP6 and RB. By this time people should know what does and does not work for this car, if they can remember! :eek: