Kyosho TR-15

[DarkWraith]

I've had mine now for a few months, and it's a performer for sure... Went together quite nicely with very minimal fiddling. Engine broke in nice and runs like a champ. Starts on first or second pull 90% of the time. At the local dirt track, she clocked at 27mph on the straight and was running about 230 degrees or so on a warm evening (10% fuel and not quite fully up to speed).

Only minor things were that the front bulkhead (which is constantly on backorder) breaks very easily where it "keys" the front gearbox in. I designed and had fabbed (here at work) some aluminum add-in pieces that prevent the breakage from ever occuring. I'll make the drawings available if anyone wants them. It also seems that many people say the stock clutch shoe that comes with the kit "burns" up real easy. I am on #2 after about 80% of a gallon of gas. Even the first one wasn't too bad...

Anyone else have any thoughts or experiences? Considering getting a boost bottle and/or intercooler for the motor just to fool around with and see if it makes any difference.

[NTRacinGuy87]

I really wanted one of those things for a while but there isnt a class...

[Draxx]

I am sort of considering getting one as a "thrash" around car. Would you consider it a good vehicle? I dont want to drop the $$ for a 1/8 buggy, so it seemed to fill the niche nicely. I am running a Losi GTX right now, but am kind of looking towards the buggies.

[DarkWraith]

Although it sucks that there isn't a class for them, this would be an awesome "thrash" vehicle. (Local track owner said he was considering a 4wd 1/10 scale any-thing goes class for fun... My buddy has an HPI Nitro MT Racer which fits the bill as well.)

As I said, the motor has plenty of power, although if you wanted more a nice Novarossi .15 would make this thing fly. Note above the very minor weak points and beef them up at assembly and you should be fine.

Read the article about it in March's RC Nitro magazine... Lots of good stuff. They give it some serious props.

I was so happy with it in fact, I just got a Kanai 7.5... Still building her while the baby one keeps me out on the track.

Let me know if you have any specific questions...

[machinehead]

I'll sell you one if you are serious. I bought it, broke the front bulkhead then it sat while I was waiting for parts... they were back ordered for 2 months! I put a bearing kit in it and upgraded to universals front and rear. It is barely broken in and will come with extra arms and dog bones and a few sets of wheels.. not even mounted yet. Its a cool car but while I was waiting for parts I bought an 1/8th scale and now that its fixed it just sits there getting dusty. Let me know. cparry9@gte.net

[DarkWraith]

Two months! Damn... I gave up after a couple weeks and decided to use the 4 year degree and machine shop at work to permanently fix it... (Although I have two replacement sets now... Just in case)

Draxx.. If you buy it, let me know and I'll get you some of the front bulkhead supports I designed and fabbed. I made a few extra sets. They're basically screw-in form-fitting aluminum spacers that support the bulkhead all the way to the chassis.

[Draxx]

I appreciate that..and thanks for the general info. I have to talk the wife into said purchase first. Since my Losi is running fine, it might end up being a christmas present to myself ;) . I am thinking about picking up that issue of R/c nitro and read what they have to say.

[DarkWraith]

Above... I said I was using 10% fuel... My HPI friend pointed out to me I was using his 20% fuel... and the RC gods would smack me down for fibbin...

I am sorry......... :D

[DarkWraith]

For those interested... Here is where some pics of my car can be seen:

Unreal Tournament Anonymous: TR-15 Pix (http://members.home.net/utaweb/)

Go to the NEWS tab...

Also, notice my "addiction" to Unreal Tournament... And my TR-15 on the rear deck of my MR2.

See ya fraggin maybe???

[UTA]Spectre / [UTA]DarkWraith :D

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[Squiddo]

:D

[Squiddo]

Here's a Pic of DarkWraith buggy muddy at our track :cool:
http://members.home.net/squiddo/TR-15_Muddy.JPG

[TRXboy]

Just a question, how well does the TR-15 handel jumps?

[DarkWraith]

She flies well....... Good balance. The nose it a little heavy, just keep a decent squeeze of gas to level her out. I just put in some heavier shock oil; the stock stuff was fairly thin. Hopefully it reduces some of the chassis slap on the bigger jumps; but I know I aint gonna get rid of it completely.

See up above about the one weak point. I broke it the first time on a good landing, just had too much throttle and all the torque simply snapped the front bulkhead.

[TRXboy]

machinehead-Are you still selling your TR-15? And Dark- could you post a pic of how you fixed the front bulkhead problem? Thanks guys.

[ReMeDy]

I wonder if it can smoke a Ofna Pirate10EVO, i would love to see those 2 go head to head. :)

[NTRacinGuy87]

I had a ofna and it was a peice of junk. I broke every stinking suspensoin part on it and we made a double shock tower and it still ent. No doubt the TR-15 could beat it. The ofna was junk. Dont get it.

[DarkWraith]

I will get some pics of version one of the fixed front bulkhead as soon as I can. Version two is simply a little cleaner with counterbores and the like. I will post a drawing that could be taken to a machine shop such that you could have them made.

My TR-15 is currently resting on the workbench. Seems I put a small crack in the fuel tank in the bottom and it leaks like a sieve. I have tried every glue know to man and they all chip off (epoxy, model glue, CA) What are these tanks made of?!? LOL I can still run with this problem so I am not too concerned. Otherwise, I broke the mounting holes portion of my steering servo, lost the fron swingshaft and broke the piece that the front steering pivots on. I have that spare (comes with front bulkhead) although I gotta order the swingshaft.

And how did I do this? Pole at the end of the high-speed straight at about 25 mph. Damn T-Maxx bumped me. HE WON. :eek: I'll try to get some wreck photos up as well.

[ReMeDy]

Has anyone seen the TTR 10th scale buggy based on the EB4 yet? It looks pretty tight. Supposed to be 280 for a RTR package.

[athowells]

What have you guys broken on it?
What is the disadvantages of getting one?
What is already built?
What would you rate the manual?
I am thinking about getting one thats why I have all these questions.

[athowells]

SQUIDDO, What is the rubber covers over your shocks?

[Einsteindks]

atho, you can use rubber glove fingers for that.

[DarkWraith]

OK... Here we go... First off; it's my TR-15... My buddy Squiddo has enough other cars and lives through my TR vicariously. :D And those are just good ol' balloons over the shocks. Gonna be getting the Shock Sox from Torn Creations here shortly... Much more better... (Spandex and durable and the like) null (http://null)ShockSox (http://torncreations.tripod.com/soxcolor.jpg)

For better pix (with other body) check out the news tab here: UTA TR-15 (http://members.home.net/utaweb/)

Atho: See all of the above posts for what I broke and what I did to fix it. For disadvantages... The engine is OK for power and very reliable; not awesome though. All in all, I am quite happy with it. Assembly wise you get pretty much a rolling chassis BUT, if you add bearings in (as I did) you tear it all apart anyways. The manual is quite good; just read it carefully when adding bearings and fixing things. I don't even need it anymore.

[athowells]

Have any of you watched the movie by Kyosho at http://www.kyosho.com/gallery/index.html

[Knightshade]

A buddy of mine is looking to buy one of these. Where did everybody here buy theirs?

[DarkWraith]

Saw the movie, yes... Nice. I got mine from TowerHobbies along with the Futaba 2PEKA FM radio deal.

[DarkWraith]

Another worthwhile add-on I decided to get was the "upgrade" for the Futaba 3003 servos which consisted of a new top servo cover and a bearing for the spline. Seemed alot smoother for adding a $5 part to an $11 servo...

[DarkWraith]

Well... Upgraded the steering servo to a Hitec with better speed and torque than the Futaba 3004s that I had in it and it certainly has helped. I'm in the process of completely stripping the whole car down. I think I am gonna try and fill the diffs with some oil and see how it responds. (Not sure if they are sealable or not; I don't remember from putting it together) Am also in the process of getting a new, two needle carb and possibly a larger cooling head.

This thread has been gone for a while... Anybody else out there got one of these bad boyz? Even having a Kanai, I still enjoy tearing it up with my "little" car... I'd love the see some of the other paint jobs people have used... My yellow body is up above. Here is my UT oriented body as seen on the OGL website...

[ImprezaFreak]

Hey guys! I'm about to order one of these lil' buggers! Hopefully after report cards come... Anyways, I heard of the clutch burning up, and someone mentioned a carbon clutch. I could only find a clutch made out of some orange Dupont stuff, is this it?

This is also going to be my first nitro, so how is it to start off? I'm looking forward to this a lot, and there's a speciall in Tower with this one going for under $200!

Any reccomendations on hopups?

Thanks guys, Impreza.

[DarkWraith]

I love mine........ Read everything up above to get the best info and pix... I don't wanna rehash it all again...

Just about an hour ago actually, I put the new special GS15 head on my engine (a little bigger, more fins) and also the two needle version of the carb. I should get some more performance out of the engine this way for sure.

As for the clutch..... YEP! Smokin... I fried a couple. I keep at least two in my box at all times. They are like $4 or something. The "good" clutch is made of Vespal (sp.) which is made by Dupont. I'm sure it is alot better, but not for $35. I'll buy 9 of the regular ones. (I am on my 3rd in 1.5-2 gallons of fuel) Not too too bad.

I filled the diffs with oil just recently as well. I'll let everyone know if it affects the handling at all. I should be firing it up this weekend.

I think it is a great first car. Builds easy, runs well with very acceptable performance for the buck. From the looks of it... I AM ITS BIGGEST PROPONENT. :D

[ajb019]

I bought mine about three weeks ago, easy to put together and it goes really well. I'm new to this so if I can do it, anyone can. Only problems I've had are the clutch burning out (replaced with the vespal one) and the brake burning too (replaced with a metal one)

[DarkWraith]

Notice any difference with the Vespal clutch?

[ajb019]

Car runs the same, but I don't need to worry about burning the clutch up. The stock one burnt out the first time I gave the car a good run. I reckon it's well worth paying out for one, but £20 seems over the top. Still taking the engine out to replace the clutch all the time is a pain.

The new brake works alot better though. I had five or six tanks over the weekend with no problems. My brother even managed to smash it into a kerb at full throttle and no damage.

A quick question. I've changed to ball bearings all round. When I push the car by hand, although it runs quite smooth, there seems to be quite alot of resistance.

It's definitely not the clutch rubbing, any ideas what it could be?

[T3GT]

COOL BUGGY DarkWraith!!!!!!

I was looking at that buggy a while back....I love shaft driven 4WD vehicles....I thought about getting one of those, and still might get one later on, but for the time being, My friend and I are running TC3 Rally Cars at our local track......They are a blast to drive, and really fast(even with a stock motor)....4WD is Awesome!!!!......But I'm still interested in getting a TR-15, when I can stash enough cash away for it........:p

[DarkWraith]

there's going to be some resistance... remember, there is alot of mechanical surfaces touching in there despite there being bearings... and remember that there are diffs in there... as long as it smooth and there is no obvious binding, methinks it should be all good... :D

although the obvious one... are the brakes dragging? :eek:

[ajb019]

Brakes are fine. Thanks anyway. I'll have to check out someone elses.

[ajb019]

IS the tuned pipe that Kyosho makes any good? And what does a tuned pipe do?

[ImprezaFreak]

The tuned pipe helps you get a boost of power at a desired level of RPMs. Some pipes can help your engine get a boost in the top end, while other pipes give you better bottom end power.

Now about the Kyosho Tuned pipe, there are 2 of them. There's a black one that goes for about $100 and there's another one that's a weird cream color that goes for $84. I have no idea how they are, but I read an article about this car and when they reviewed it they added the tuned pipe. Sadly they didn't do a comparison to see which pipe was better, or if there was any increase in performance at all.

Here it is: http://www.off-road.com/rc/kyosho/tr15.html
(copy and paste it)

I just ordered this car, and I should be getting in in the next week or so. Anything I should watch out for when building it?

Thanks guys, ImprezaFreak

[ImprezaFreak]

Oh and 1 more thing, do you guys know which on-road tires would fit this buggy?

Thanks, Impreza

[ajb019]

No ideas about tyres.

Only thing to watch out for is the shock oil that comes with the kit is quite thin and I've found that my TR-15 bottoms out on jumps. I changed to thicker oil at the weekend and its alot better.

Has anyone put foam in their tyres? What difference does it make?

[HauntedMyst]

Well, I've considered one of these for a while and gone back and forth dur to it's performance (I didn't get the impression from the review it was much of a basher though a few of you say differenctly) So anyways, I'm skimming through Tower last night and find this... http://www.towerhobbies.com/listings/listinvc.html

At that price, I might not be able to turn it down.

[ajb019]

That's an unbelievable price. Here in the UK we pay through the nose for everything anyway. My TR-15 was GBP230 which is well over 300 dollars, so you're getting it for half the price. Should have waited for my next trip over. Buy it quick. I might buy one for spares.

[ajb019]

Here's a pic.

[DarkWraith]

HOLY COW...... $152?????

I might buy another one.....

Um... Tires... Foam, as always, is a must for all the usual reasons. I found some standard cheap foam on Tower and cut it to fit. Keeps the tires nice and "firm."

As for comments on the build... Read all my above posts, its all up there. I hate rehashing it over and over. :D

$152??? Gotta be a type-o!

HANDS DOWN... FOR A BASHER CAR... UNBEATABLE!!!

All you need to add is radio gear! The engine aint half bad and with the money you save, you could get the two needle carb and larger head!

Where's the Discover card?

[ImprezaFreak]

Heh heh! I payed $for mine a couple of days ago! I could have waited for the price to go down lower, but I didn't want to risk the opportunity since I already had the money.

It all came out to $232 and I got a 2PC radio, The Inferno, some extra clutches, after run oil, CA glue, glo-igniter, batteries, and thread locker.

Pretty good deal if you ask me... I'm going to look more into the on-road tires!

Later guys, Impreza

[MBX-4er']

A quick fix for the problem with the front bulkhead where the "keys" keep breaking off is to take a body post, from say a HPI car, and on one of the 4 set screws holding the diff case. Take the first bottom screw out and find one about 2mm longer, take the body post and thread the screw through the top of the body post and measure up the distance from the screw to the chassis. Find your distance, cut it, and then screw the screw back in on the diff case and the body post attatched to the diff case keeps it where it should be, i'll post a pic...

Jason

[MBX-4er']

Sorry for the really crappy pic, but for it not to me too big, this is what i get....i hope this helps make sense of all those words...

Jason

[MBX-4er']

Also, how do i resize an image that i have to be under the limit? All the pics i have are like 20 times the byte limit...

Jason

[ajb019]

Just save it as a jpeg file

[DarkWraith]

I actually made a custom aluminum piece that bolts onto the bulkhead that makes it indestructable. I've been meaning to post the drawing... I had a couple extra made just in case, although so far I have had no problems with the first set.

[MBX-4er']

i am gonna have some aluminum bulkheads made, tires of messing with this plastic stuff. I just did put in my new engine, a Dynamita .12SPD, wow! this little buggy flies with it!! I am in the process of converting the rims over to standard 2.2" rims. The stock kyosho rims WILL fit reg. buggy rears and 4wd buggy fronts, but the rears a a wee bit narrow, it works fine, but i would rather have 2.2's.

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

Well I got my car, ran it, and already broke it... LOL I think it took me like 13 hours to build it because i built the front suspension backwards about 3 times. Everything else was pretty straightforward until i got to the break-in process. Since this was my first nitro, I followed the manual like the bible, and it said 2 turns of the needle to start, but it wouldn't even get close. A quick call to my dad who is for some reason the know-it-all of everything (which really bugs me) and he suggested closing the needle 1 turn! Hip hip hurray, all he says works... LOL. After that it was all nice and calm, broke it in with 5 tanks of 10% nitro. Been running that til i finish it so i can use the 20%.

Since I couldn't find any flat dirt to run this buggy on, and it can't run on grass I took it to the street. My front tires have magically turned into slicks, and I just realized i have to get foams for the tires! The GS15R moves this buggy fast enough for me, and we had an up-close meeting with teh neighbor's mailbox. When i crashed, I hit it right in the middle of the buggy where the bumper is, and I looked to find no visible damage. 2 minutes later I'm speeding down the street and all of a sudden it stalled out like it had no more gas. I was like what the heck i just filled it up?! Upon closer inspection I found fuel all over the place, and I was pretty sure that it was a cracked fuel tank. LHS doesn't have the part in stock, and since i didn't buy the buggy fromt them they look at me like I am the devil and refuse brives to sell me the fuel tank they had on the buggy up in the counter.

I managed to document my journey pretty well with lots of pictures and even some videos, but I have no place to post them on. If anyone has some hosting space and would like to post these media articles just email me and i'll be glad to send them to you.

Later guys! Impreza

[DarkWraith]

Ah indeed...... Besides the front bulkhead prior to my permanent fix, the only other part I have broken in 1.5 gallons is....... The gas tank. :D

I got one new one and used a soldering iron to quasi-repair the first one just in case I need it down the road. I have since started putting O-rings under the tank where it mounts to the chassis to provide some damping. It won't help in a big crash bit every bit could help.

I ruined my first set of tires running on the road as well. I bought a whole new set of rims and tires and use them for dirt only. My original set are now my road slicks.

I see the price on Tower has now gone from $152 to $199; they must be sellin them...

[ImprezaFreak]

I got a CEN replacement one today! YIPPE! I'm in the process of putting foams inside my tires, and I'll give it a go in a little. Are you interested in posting some pics and video of my car?

Thanks, ImprezaFreak.

[ajb019]

I don't know much about tyres/wheels etc. What's the best tyres to buy and what sort of foam should I get? Should I just use the wheels I already have or buy some new ones.

[Nick1Barber]

Like this car a lot but paid £200 in the Uk plus radio gear, what a rip off, have some questions for you.

What the hell does fully ballraced mean?

I run mine at the local park on grass, is it not supposed to be run on grass? Will it do it any damage?

With thanx!

:confused:

[ajb019]

Ballraced means that you put ballbearings instead of metal bushes in. I've done it on mine - they go in the steering and round the axles. They make it run alot smoother.

[Nick1Barber]

Thanx ajb

What do you think of the car?

[ajb019]

It's my first nitro car and I think it's great. The speed blew me away when I first drove it. I tend to smash it up on a regular basis but haven't broke anything major yet. I drive it on road, and my flat has a spare underground car park which is handy in bad weather. The tyres are looking very slick now so I'll need to buy new ones soon. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the only problems I've had are a burnt out clutch and a burnt out brake.

It's ridiculous though that we pay £200+ and the Americans pay half that for the same thing. If I lived in the US I'd definitely have bought another for the spares - another body, engine and chassis would easily add up to a hundred quid and then everything else is free.

[MBX-4er']

normal 2.2 inch buggy tired fit the stock TR15 rims. I have Hole shots on all 4 corners of mine. The rear tires are a tad wide, but thats about it. The fronts are a perfect fit. I am going to convert the whole thing to 2.2" rims. I am running a Dynamita 12SPD in mine, it rips!

Has anyone tried the "duraluminum" chassis avail. for the buggy? Its 60 bucks, but i am chewing up main gears because of chassis flex, so i need to get the flexing down, so...thanx!

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

Hey guys! I finally found a place to host some of my pictures. Here they are: (make them full size, they're nice and big!)

Kyosho Inferno TR-15 Buggy (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1807478&a=14042818&f=0)

Anyways, I burned out a clutch which I am in the process of replacing, and I think my plastic disk brake is worn out too since it doesn't stop the car anymore so I am going to buy the Alum. one. Changing the clutch is a pain in the a$$! I'm considering the vespal one now!

Later guys! Impreza

[DarkWraith]

Damn..... I run mine HARD and I aint chewed up spur gears from the chassis flexin yet! I wanna hang out with you guys!!!

I am actually in the process of designing some additional brace rods for my TR. My bud recently got a CNC mill and the aluminum parts are flowing freely at this point. Nothin like making your own aluminum parts and not having to shell out serious cash for them. HE WORKS FOR BEER. lol

Methinks the dura-chassis is not even the correct TR-15 chassis... Search using that part number elsewhere and the pic is NOT THE TR-15 CHASSIS. Be wary, I don't agree with every spare part on the list at Tower.

Nice pics BTW... I might be getting another body as my basher body has seen better days.

[MBX-4er']

I would get the Associated 4-n-1, thats what i run, its nice and has 4 different setups pending on how you want it, on top of different tension springs to tune it even more. Also, its much cheaper than the Vespel shoes. I also have the Vespel clutch shoes, they are nice, but not worth 30 bucks!

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

You know DarkWraith, I think you could make really good use of your friend's cnc mill! This buggy suffers from low ground clearance, and I think there could be a way around it! By designing some aluminum front and rear bulkheads with a higher shock screw, you could use some associated team shocks for a GT and fit them to that, or maybe something a little smaller. This way you could get really good shock travel, and maybe with some longer arms, which you could also easily cnc, you would have a really kicka$$ buggy! Heck I think if you do that I'd purchase a set from you since with that kind of shock travel and clearance it would make it the ultimate buggy!

Tell me what you think, or maybe if you could clear some suff up because these are just raw ideas, and you probably know a lot more about all this than I do.

Later guys, Impreza!

[ImprezaFreak]

Also, since i just had to take apart the front suspension to change the clutch, I ran into a little problem. When I try to screw the bottom arms into the chassis, the balls inside of them spin and I cannot screw them in!! I had trouble taking them out, and now I am completely bewildered on how to solve this problem!

Where is superman?!? LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated, Impreza.

[MBX-4er']

Why did you have to take off the front suspension to change the clutch?

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

And the answer is..... I am a complete A$$HOLE! LOL I just realized it... oh well. Could you give me a link to that 4-n-1 clucht? I couldn't find it on tower.

Later guys, Impreza

[MBX-4er']

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXAX13&P=7

That will work on the stock flywheel, but i converted my whole thing over to the GT flywheel and clutch. But you wont need to do that.

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

Thanks bro, I'll be ordering one soon. Now i have another problem. Now that I changed the clutch, and i think it was even before i changed it, the engine seems to not come down the revs after i gas it hard. Sometimes it'll just get stuck and go flying into a tree or something!! I have no idea what it could be, and i checked the servos, and they seem to run fine.

Also DarkWraith, could you post some pictures and drawings of those bulkheads you made?

Any idea of what this mess could be?! Thanks, Impreza.

[MBX-4er']

I had the same problem with the stock engine, so i trashed it.LOL...The only thing that i could see as a problem is that the throttle arms will spin freely inside the throttle body itself. You need to keep the dumb thing tight! What happens is when you hit the gas hard it pushes the arms past its normal position and when the servo retracts, it doesnt close the carb. Its too complicated to explain, just sit down and look at it with the engine off and see if you see something close to what im trying to explain.

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

I see what you're talking about. I'm going to go check on it and hopefully try to fix it cuz i can't afford a new engine right now!

Thanks a lot, Impreza.

[Johnson]

I know this has probably been answered already elsewhere, but I'm hoping for a specific reply for a TR15. My pull start looks like it's going to die any moment (it's not winding back in again). I don't want to buy the whole assembly, as I reckon its only the spring. Can I buy just the spring? Or is something else wrong too?

Thanks for your help in advance.

[MBX-4er']

Sorry, the pull start is avail. as a whole only. It may just be really dirty, blast it with some WD40 and see what happens then...

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

Talking about pull starters, mine kinda slips a little when I pull it sometimes. Would that be the same as Johnson's problem?

1 more thing, I just ordered one of the 4-n-1 clutches. Do they wear out easily like the stock ones or are they sturdy?

Thanks a lot, Impreza.

[MBX-4er']

mine still looks new, its been through 1 gallon already and has minimal wear.

Jason

[Nick1Barber]

Hiya Johnson

My pullstart went recently, took the engine out and removed the plastic pullstart housing and wound the pullstart by hand then re-attached the cord. Sprung back ok, but I have to be a bit gentle with it I think.

Hope this helps! If I can do it I'm sure you'll have no probs!

Let me know if you need anymore info.

Happy motoring!

:)

[Johnson]

Thanks Nick. Sounds easy enough. Seemed a bit drastic to replace the whole thing.

[ImprezaFreak]

MBX-4er', I just got the 4-n-1 clutch, and for some reason I dont think it fits. Do you have to buy the GT Flywheel too or the clutchbell? I tried putting each one of the shoes on separately but it looks kinda funny. How did you do it?

Thanks a lot, Impreza.

[ImprezaFreak]

Any help would be greatly appreciated, I dont mind having to buy the GT flywheel and clutchbell if i have to, but i'm kinda stuck.

Thanks in advance, Impreza.

[Remedy1]

TTT, i want one now too!

[MBX-4er']

You have to replace the pins on the flywheel or the shoes will not fir right. They can be a pain to get out, but a good pair of pliers is all you need to pull them out. I used my table vise to push the new pins back in, but if you dont have one, then just use the pliers you used to pull them out. I looked at the stock K flywheel and the size is the same, that same procedure as with the Vespel shoes....

Jason

[ImprezaFreak]

Well, The clutch didn't come with extra pins, and when i pulled the pins out they got messed up. I'm pretty sure that the clutch won't fit unless you redrill new holes in the flywheel, and i have no idea of what I can make new pins out of. I also tried to see if a GT flywheel would fit the engine, but the crankshaft hole is smaller than usual so that won't work either. I might just give the clutch to my friend who has a GT and buy the Vespal ones.

Any other ideas? Thanks guys, later.

[MBX-4er']

hmm...thats weird, my clutch came with the pins. Whats your addy? I'll send you mine.

Jason

[Remedy1]

TTT

[ImprezaFreak]

Hey Remedy1, is there anything you need?

[Remedy1]

Not yet just keeping it at the top so others will be interested. I do plan on getting the kit later but 250 is pretty expesinve for a tenth scale kit.:mad:

[ImprezaFreak]

Yeah i got lucky cuz it was in an inventory reduction thing at tower and payed 152 for it! Great buggy tho, can tackle lots of abuse!

[T/Losi]

Is the spare bodies availible for it?
Does it come with any ball bearings?
Can you put the rear rims on the front?
How good is its performance?

[MBX-4er']

1) Yes you can buy extra bodies.
2) No is does NOT come with BB, but you can buy them seperatly for about 30 bucks.
3) No you cant put the rear rims on the front, if you do, you will have no steering because the rim will hit the tire rod.
4) Preformance is better than i expected out of the box, but since im a 1/8 racer, i expected more that it could give me. it is very fun and almost unbreakable.

Jason

[T/Losi]

Have you tried with the rear rims becuase on Tower Hobbies it says that the rear wheels can go on the front?

[T/Losi]

How long do the tires usually last on-road?

[RC10GT-Maxx]

Can anybody tell me if kyosho plans to discontinue the kit any time soon? And could I buy some of them metal bulkheads mentioned earlier in the thread?

[MBX-4er']

The tires dont last long at all on the road, and the rims will fit, but the car wont steer with them because they are too wide. Trust me, i tried.

Jason

[Remedy1]

The TR15's are going for 189 dollars on Ebay. I'm wondering what servos you guys are using? Anything special or just the basic ones that came with your radio?

[MBX-4er']

I am using Hitec's 605 BB servos in my TR15.

Jason

[Remedy1]

Ok thanks gotcha!

Mission:Get the car first. Get the servos second, get the radio and misc last...

May i ask where you purchased yours from, or do you know an online vendor i can get those particular ones from?

[Remedy1]

Does anyone know if the TriniPicco .15 rear exhaust engine work with the chassis layout or does it need to stick to the side exhaust?

[Johnson]

Does anyone know where I can get tyres for on road for a TR15? I always use it on road and my tyres are like slicks now.

[Remedy1]

I assume you can get them from towerhobbies since this buggy is based on the on road car of its brother.

[Metalcat]

Has anyone any idea about aftermarket clutches ?:confused:

[Johnson]

Yes, look at the first pages of this thread. Basically the clutch that comes with the kit is plastic and burns up easily. There is a "vespal" clutch which is expensive (about £20) but alot better.

[Metalcat]

Did you find the tires all ready ? I ordered some from pro-line, the road rage I & II seem to be fitting

[Metalcat]

Dump #$&^* me, you know some people should just refraim from using computers. :D
Thanks, I think I'll go for the vespals if the durability is actually worth it.

[Johnson]

Metalcat, how much were the tyres? Any good? Did you buy new wheels too or just go with the wheels you already have? Lots of questions.

[Metalcat]

Johnson,
I ordered them but haven't received them yet. My dealer tells me they are good. I ordered new wheels to come with it.
Tires at towerhobbys list at $12 a pair. Just search for road rage and something will come up. The front and rear are different :p

[Metalcat]

Wright now I have the graupner c512 servo as steering servo. I have the feeling that this is a bit to weak for this car. My question : can I attach any servo to my graupner receiver ? If so, what is a good replacement for the c512 ?:confused:

[Metalcat]

Forget the servo question, I bought the Hitec HS605BB and loving it. Other question, how many turns do I have to turn out the main jet of the carb for a normal day (dry, 20Celcius) :confused:
Just asking because when I open full throttle the engine dies. Can be due to to lean or to rich, please advice ;)

[ImprezaFreak]

Well the engine dies out at full throttle because there is not enough fuel getting into the engine to combust. Turn the needle out by about a quarter of a turn at a time untill it runs well to richen the mixture a little bit.

[AUTOSEAR]

I have a new Inferno TR15 for sale. Email me if you guys are still looking for one.

Thanks!
chadpope@juno.com

[Metalcat]

Does anyone change or experiment with camber and caster ? And if so what are the adviced settings for the front ?
I have a feeling that my caster isn't wright, my front tires are wearing from the inside out.
What is normal wear for the standard tyres ? I rode approx. 1 hour on the parkinglot and most of the profile is gone :eek:

[Nick1Barber]

Hi All

Can someone help with a problem I've got. My pullstart is slipping when the glow plug is in but is fine when there's no glow plug???

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Many Thanx

[Metalcat]

Nick1, seems that you need to replace the one-way bearing for the pullstarter.
Symptoms you are describing are normal and logic :
glowplug is out -> no compression -> no resistance -> the one way bearing still has enough grip to turn the cranck
glowplug is in -> compression -> resistance -> the one way bearing slips and hence no cranck-turning.
I'm planning to remove the pullstarter, it leaks fuel and I've home made a starterbox for $10 which is doiing the job very well.

[Nick1Barber]

Thanx Metal cat. One way bearing looks a bit worn but cleaned it and put on a new pullstart. Seems to be ok now.

Thanx again for replying

Nick

[DarkWraith]

My tires held up well for quite a while all offroad... UNTIL...

I tore up the asphalt parking lot at my work. I drove for about an hour or so and they were basically slicks by the time I was done.

I now have two sets of tires... One exclusively for off-road and the original set; now exclusively for on-road.

[Pershaw]

HEY! I need help from all you Tr-15er's. I just got a really nice TR-15 but the front end is really tweaked. NOW for the questions.. How much kick up does the the stock chassis have in the front? How much camber and castor should be in the front wheels? Right now my wheels are pointing in a bit and one is kinda sloped towards the car and it sucks. Bad handling.. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ALSO does anyone agree with me that they should make aluminum bulkheads for this car?!?!

[Pershaw]

I meant to add this to my above post BUT I didn't! I have some very good plans for the Inferno TR-15. How about a full roll cage that's protective, strong, and VERY light? It would also go on with NO modification. And I have plans for front braces, bulkheads, f/r chassis braces, CHASSIS, throttle return, more!. I have designed many of my own custom parts, but for these I need help. This might even be a buisness proposition as there is VERY little useful aftermarket support for this car. I am looking for someone with access to proper equipment and experience (TIG welding and machining, this will all be done with aluminum) I hope that someone replys that can do this, lots of people would buy these parts!

[Pershaw]

Anyone with a Tr-15 here tonight??!?

[Metalcat]

Pershaw,
not many people here but there I believe there is one with proper material for making spare parts, just read through the entire thread, the truth is out there somewhere ;)

[DarkWraith]

I too have a TR... And am in the process of creating some custom aluminum pieces as well. I have access to ProE and MasterCAM; and my friend and fellow RCer has his own CNC mill. I've already had made some supports so that the front bulkhead doesn't break as easily as it normally would. I am in the process of creating the wing stays and mount out of aluminum as well. A roll cage would certainly be cool.

We are considering creating some custom suspension for the car utilizing hingpins instead of "ball" pivot as it is now. Something similar to the RC10GTish... Also, adding a front shock tower so that we could add slightly larger shocks. I hope to have it completed by mid-summer. I should have bought ANOTHER tr when they were only $150 at Tower. They are now back up to $250... Grr....

I agree with you that there is very little hop-up wise out there for this and these parts could be good sellers. IM ON IT ALREADY. :)

As for your car being tweaked... The kick up on my chassis is maybe 10 degrees (without the car being in front of me). I think anything ALOT more or less than that would be bad. As for toe-in and out, the front tires (on mine at least ) are slightly toed out and the rear are slightly toed in. As for the rest, the front tires are pretty much "vertical" and the rears are off vertical slightly with the tops nearer the car. (Always get camber and castor mixed up, I hope the above makes sense to you).

Mine handles fairly well. After driving my Kanai, it seems much worse than it really is, because my Kanai turns on a dime. I guess my only gripe is the turning radius isn't as good as I'd like. Otherwise, my TR is a joy to drive. Flies well and takes a beating.

Alright... Alright... ILL SHUT UP ALREADY! :D

[Pershaw]

for the reply. I got your camber and castor setiings clearly. NOW I want to try to explain the rollcage to you, this would be the best hop up possible for the TR.... First of all it starts at the front bumper. The front bumper, made of aluminum, has two bars running from it down the chassis that curve over the gas tank, air filter, and engine head. They go over the back shocks and are welded onto a small rear bumper attached the the rear bulkhead! Now this full rollcage will have supports that run to the chassis plastic side plate SCREWS. There is three screws on each side to hold these side plates on. The radio box will be gone but it's easy to tape the receiver to the steering servo. This would be an ideal rollcage. You might not know what the @#$% i'm talking about, so I wish I had a pic! If you do great...

[rcjeff]

So, review. I just read the whole thread today. It seems like the broken things are mainly bulkheads and clutches

[DarkWraith]

agreed for the most part...

did you all see the custom aluminum wing stays i posted over in the Nitro forum?

i gave'm a workout this weekend and they held up really well...

the only mod to install them was to cut back part of the body another 1/4 inch maybe and use slightly shorter screws to fasten them to the bulkhead...

lemme know if anyone is interested in picking up a set...

[3434]

Does anyone know the difference in the two new chassis # for this car? The new numbers are TR-01B and TRW-01B. Just wondering what they changed.

[Pershaw]

I REALLY like those wing mounts! Good work. How much $$ are you asking for a set?

[DarkWraith]

I'm glad you like them... not to DOUBLE post... but they will be $20 bucks a set, unless you want them modified in some way...

drop me a PM if you're interested...

also... what other parts would you guys like to see for the TR in aluminum??? we have the technology... :D

[Pershaw]

ROLLCAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at my earlier post about my rollcage idea. If you have no idea what I mean PM me! I'd be willing to phone you and explain while you look at your TR-15. lmk asap! This would be the ultimate hop up.

[DarkWraith]

i agree the rollacage would be awesome... although our skills lie in machining, not welding! :D

anyone wanting to get a hold of me, my email is:

utadarkwraith@attbi.com

drop me a line if your interested in anything... thx!

[Pershaw]

Aluminum f/r bulkheads would be the shiznit! Aluminum front braces\body mounts (since they are one piece) Rear brace instead of that small rod, Aluminum front brace since there isn't even a small rod! Maybe a chassis. Braces would help though, I don't think a chassis would be nessisary...

[rcjeff]

Darkwraith, how much would you sell some bulkheads and wing mounts for? I noticed that the bulkheads were the problem, and if you could sell me some i would probably get one of these babys. The wing mounts are not necessisary (or are they?) but they look cool.

[DarkWraith]

is there anything in our sport that is ABSOLUTELY needed? :D

your right... more chicks... but besides that...

the wing stays add a *little* durability but they are most certainly for show. i'll get with corporate (lol) and find out about the bulkheads....

i'll bust out my extra set tonight and start modelling them up in 3d... the only thing that would make them a little more expensive is the fact there are the parts that "stick out" from the main part of the bulkhead... a lot of machining to cut them out. otherwise, it's cake... ill start with the front bulkhead as that one is most easily broken...

im thinking (as i have a real job still) that i'd have'm modelled by sunday and we could make them one night next week and fit'em to the car the day after.... your're looking about 10 days and ill be back here (hopefully) posting pics of them!


ACTUALLY... now that i have my car and extra set of front bulkheads in front of me... i might try to incorporate a front shock tower as well (as a seperate piece of course)... that way you could slap a nice (longer) set of say RC10GT threaded shocks on there... (which would be a little more vertical than stock) you would need to cut back the body a bit more... but it should be cool.... it would give awesome side to side added stiffness as well... ALSO!!! the "shock tower" for the back would be easy.... having a nice set of shocks on there would be tight... i'm gettin myself excited!

STAY TUNED... thx for the interest as always....

bulkhead set (front) : $TBD
bulkhead set (rear) : $TBD
Wing stay set : $20... polished....

were working on anodizing... some day... we'll anodize to any color you want as well.... SOME DAY... dont get greedy! :D

[Pershaw]

Aluminum front braces\body mounts (since they are one piece) Rear brace instead of that small rod, Aluminum front brace since there isn't even a small rod! What about those. Thanks, your a TR-15 king.

[DarkWraith]

rear and front brace ill look at... how and where u think to attach it as it is ball-ended, which is hard to do in aluminum... :D

for the rear... replace the cross piece that the wing stays mount to and make it aluminum and go from there... to the center gear holder... they are self-tapping so that should be ok actually... even if i don't make the cross piece aluminum...

as for the front... there's not a whole lot of options... should i make a front shock tower though, i can go from that to the chassis and brace it up... any thoughts on the front from u?

[Bus Driver]

Hello,I have had one of these cars for 2 weeks now.In the break in period I burnt the clucth up so I took it apart and rebuilt it.Now the clutch blew 3 more times after 3 tanks of fuel.So what i did was i had some old clutches from and old kyosho thunderbird car i use to have.They are the same thing as the stock ones,but I have run about 10 tanks through this one and not nothing.The clutch is still perfect.I dont know what it is but I think they are using cheaper plastic now then they did about 6 years ago.I also put 2 little balls in the clutch's and it has shown a great difference.


Over all i like the car.I am really an 1/8 scaler but wanted to have someth9ng to bash around the neighborhoood.The thing does not break.

[MadUsa1]

how much are you guys paying for your TR-15's??

[Metalcat]

All,

I'm in the middle of a complete rebuild of the car. I'm working on a carson Hot-Rod body :cool: , new servo's (read more steering power), nice wide wheels, from the tamya stadion truck (needs some touches of the dremel) and because my engine has abandoned me, a new Protech Force Factory Tuned engine with slide carb. Now here's the trick, how do I fit the engine in the car :confused:
The engine mounts are way to far apart to fit on the chassis, do I need to make some mod's on the chassis or is there something I'm overlooking here ???? Please help me out here.

[DarkWraith]

I'm finally back... Took a... BREAK. Built new pooter...

Bus - the clutch is the chronic problem for sure... i've only gone thru 2 or 3 in a couple gallons... that's cool u found one that lasts!

Mad - Tower has the best prices... Believe it or not, they had it for $150 US for a little while!!! I almost bought a second one... Alas.. I did not... = stoopid!

Metal - im not familiar with that engine, but if it is too wide... it's too wide... i think... :) pics might help!

I think i'll be running mine today as a matter of fact... So nice outside!

[Nick1Barber]

Hi all

This has been driving me mad for the last few weekends hope one of you can help.

After several weeks of happy motoring, my servos starting going beserk when I tried to start the car. I replaced the receiver and the problem seems to have gone away, however now when I try to start the engine it revs up high without the servo moving and then dies.

The only time I can get it to start and then die is by priming the engine. Fuel lines look ok and good compression in the engine.

Hope you can help!??


:confused:

Nick

[CTRallyRacer2]

Does anyone have PICs of their rides. I'm thinking of selling my barely used Kyosho Megaforce to pick one of these buggies up. Just wondering what people have done to dress them up and what mods they have been putting in them. If I use an aftermarket 3 shoe clutch and clutchbell.... would that save me from the clutch woes? And which aftermarket ones would fit? I'd even consider getting a new clutch, bell and spur if necessary.

[Nick1Barber]

Thinking of buying another? Then look at this site, great price if it wasn't for the shipping (approx £37 to Uk) car costs approx £109


https://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html

Anyone help with my engine problem

Nick

[foxster]

hey i wanna buy a bearing set? wats the stuff available online? i know about duratrax set at towers. just wanna know if i have ne other choices

[xxtcrgp]

you got mail dark wraith(grant #12)

[xxtcrgp]

ttt

[th'Kooz]

i finally bought a nitro buggy.

but i'm having a hard job setting the carb. how fast should it idle? how long should it take to get up to full speed 'sound'?

any general help setting idle speeds or needles appreciated appreciated.

it's a stock tr15 with gs15r engine.

[th'Kooz]

also how do i set the brake? how loose should the two little screws on the brake housing be with the brake fully off, no servo involved?

[the_swed]

Originally posted by ImprezaFreak
Well the engine dies out at full throttle because there is not enough fuel getting into the engine to combust. Turn the needle out by about a quarter of a turn at a time untill it runs well to richen the mixture a little bit.


It can be other way around,if you are runing with the high speed needle to rich(dunnu if the gs15 enginge has it) it can acctualy stal.... If the enginge hasitates ( when you pull the throtle) and then dies it is running to rich.....hope this helps

[the_swed]

What is the weakest point on the tr15 and how much does it cost to fix?

thanks


<marquee>:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: ;) </marquee>

[ImprezaFreak]

What's up guys? I haven't been around here for a while, nice to see all the progress with those alum parts. I'd be interested to buy some of those if they look like they're worth it. I remember a while ago saying something about making a taller shock mount and everyone thought i was crazy or something, but I really want to check it out if you finished one Dark.

See you guys around, Impreza.

[ImprezaFreak]

BUMP! Ummmm... Any of you guys still around here?!

[the_swed]

Does any1 have a tr15 with an os cv-x engine?

[the_swed]

I put a cv-x in mine, it rips, but it is a little heavier than the gs15 engine...Anyways i need new tires onroad tires, which fit and which dont?. Iw found that the tires for the thunder tiger ssb fits, and they are quite cheap, i payed 15$ for 2sets with foams....but i need on road tires too....

[offroader2]

I have a Inferno TR-15
What do you think are the best hop ups for it?
Thanks

[th'Kooz]

I live in Japan now, bought a TR15 cos it was the only buggy in the shop and was cheaper than a monster truck.

There are only a few hop up parts for the TR15. I have the catalog in Japanese, so here goes. Prices are estimates in US dollars.

.: 2 different pipes, costing $68 & $80. The $80 one is UGLY!
.: Gold Anodised base plate $45
.: Universal joints $30 - I have these, they rule. The old wishbones fall out.
.: Tie rods with a nut like adjuster in the middle - 2 types. $3 & $6
.: Steel diff set - I guess front or rear - $68
.: Hardened diff case - $22
.: Some hardened clutch thing called 'Besuparu' AB15 - $25. Dont waste your money, stick with the $2 cheapies and replace them often
.: Teflon steel shocks - $32. Also seem a waste, unless your serious about racing. which is difficult cos there's not much of a class in 1/10 for buggies
.: Colored spring sets - $8. Good grief!
.: Steel disc brake - $10 I bought it for amusement factor only
.: FPR brake discs - $10

And that's it really. Assorted tires and rims in different styles and colors, but not real 'hop up' parts, except for the pipes.

Also, make sure you're using the right fuel - it DOESNT like 25% ntiro or greater!

Any questions, email me. I can order ALL replacement parts here, and one shop has little bags of screws, platic parts etc.

One thing - Tamiya tires are MUCH better than the Kyosho ones for off road. They fit the rims better too.

http://www.psychosomaticana.com/hobby.htm

check the tires out there. The Kyosho ones are good for on road stuff tho, cos they're so soft :)

I think you'll have better luck making stuff for the car yourself than buying stuff.

Or buy a better car - it's pretty budget ;)

EDIT : OH I FORGOT - replace all the steel collars with the bearing kits - they're great. Take the sizes from your manual to the LHS and get something that fits - Tamiya ones are good & well priced

[races#62]

I noitced that DarkWraith posted that he upgraded to a two needle carb. Does anyone know where these can be bought and maybe some part numbers? I have looked and never found one even though the exploded view of the engine has two needles.

Thanks

[Intensevil]

I'm seriously thinking about getting this car, but I'm not sure whether i should get the rally one or the buggy.

If i go with the buggy i probbaly won't be able to race due to a lack of class. But if i go rally then the car won't have as much torque for off road :( .

What i want to do is be able to use teh car for both, onroad and off road.
Any suggestions?

[th'Kooz]

Get it. Tamiya tires fit the rims so you can run on- & -off road tires for it. You might want to think about stiffer springs for on-road.

Bit slow for anything but dicking around with on-road : no 2 speed transmission like some cars.

Need help setting it up - email me :)

[Cant log on]

Originally posted by races#62
I noitced that DarkWraith posted that he upgraded to a two needle carb. Does anyone know where these can be bought and maybe some part numbers? I have looked and never found one even though the exploded view of the engine has two needles.

Thanks

74901-13 is the part number for the two needle carb.

And Kooz there is two, two speeds available for this car from Kyosho. FZW056, and 39014.

3434

[th'Kooz]

Hot *****!!! that would rule!

Cheers for that!

[Cant log on]

Only thing is, its a bit pricey

[th'Kooz]

Dont care :) I live in Japan so it's much cheaper here.

What is the 2 speed box from? Not listed on the homepage in the TR15 parts list ...

... er, how expensive ? :O

[Cant log on]

Its for the FW-04 Super-10. The whole center section of the TR-15 is from the FW-04. The better one is $160 USD.

[th'Kooz]

no probs! excellent, thank you smithers ;) more speed here i come!

[Jimmy33]

what % nitro do you guys do you use, I am currently using 16% (I run my Landmax on 20%) and I am wondering if I can get some more speed with out fitting the 2 speed as I want to keep this car simple unlike my Landmax. Also do you know what other tyres fit on the standard wheels as I have the rally version and the tyres they give are useless on anything other than warm tarmac?

[DarkWraith]

Been out for a while... But I've dusted the TR off... And I'll be back in the game soon... The Kanai has been gettin all the attention lately, so far be it from me to let its little brother sit in the attic and be lonely...

It's gonna take me 3 days to read all the posts since the last time I was here...

Awesome...

[Nitro~Freek!!!]

hey ugys,

Im about to get one of these........... i hope!

All i wanna know is:

Is the engine easy to tune?

Reliable?

is the optional blue heatsink anygood?

and

what fuel to use?




info will be appreciated,

thx guys,

Nitro~Freek!!!

[DarkWraith]

My TR was the first nitro I had bought, and outta the box, I felt it was fairly easy to tune. Years later, after tinkering with my WS7 in my 7.5 and watching my friends with their engines (of all sorts, sizes and kinds), I feel it was up there in simple and reliable engines. By no means is it the fastest... But it gets u going. I think I've rebuilt the engine only once, and I have replaced the normal head with the optional "blue" head... I have also replaced the carb with a nicer one. These engine upgrades did give me a slight performance boost. Again... It aint a Sirio or an RB, but it holds its own. There are a bunch of other little things I did to make the buggy more robust as well. As for fuel. We used to use Blue Thunder but have since switched to Trinity 20% solely. It's all we use in all of our cars/trucks/buggies. I won't go back to anything else. (Please keep in mind be bash and tinker 95% of the time, with a little "fun" racing thrown in.)

Hope this helps....

[Nitro~Freek!!!]

Thx man,

i'm glad you say its reliable because i just owned a duratrax overdrive and that engine was useless, never could tune it, always ran hot and no options for it!

I think im gonna go wiv the tr-15, i just wanna bash and dont want another expensive ride,


Its either the tr-15 or the ultima st gp truck?

Nitro~Freek!!!

[DarkWraith]

Dunno about the Ultima... But the TR is great for bashing if you want a buggy and are on a budget and can't go 1/8 scale... (I prefer buggies to trucks) Read this whole TR thread to see the few things I have found to be the weakest points of the buggy and how u might strangthen them up a little. Other than those few things, I have broken the car really only once... 20mph into a turn barrier = broken A arm... Other than that she has seen some abuse...

:D

[Nitro~Freek!!!]

thx for all the info,

Does the gs engine only have a needle valve adjustment like the carbs. that come on kyosho's gx engines?

does anyone know what type of speeds the inferno can reach?

I should be getting it at the beginning of may!:D

Nitro~Freek!!!

[Kenny123]

I want to buy a TR-15 Buggy or rally are the good cars? What are the pro's and con's?

[Kenny123]

Does any one have a used one they would sell? If yes please email me at KennyVIP@msn.com

[donny]

Hi there guys. I got an TR-15 hte subary rally version. I´ve been very satisfied with it, but today I´ve had it. First I had some problems with the reception. Sometimes the throttle and the sttering stayed on, no respons, the rest you can figure it out. OK, I managed to avoid any big accidents. I went to the shop where I bought it from. They had a look on it, gave me a new servo and said the problem is solved. I was glad about it of course. Installed the new servo and went to a small track cruising. (The track isn´t anything special, but it´s near to were I live and here in Finland there isn´t too many tracks what I know of.) Well the same problem happened. I started the the engine again and drove on idle around in circles to see if the problem would come again. Suddenly the car floored itself and started turning in a big circle. I tried to stop it but it there was no response (and I´m not that fast of a runner). The car hit the curb at top speed and got serious damage. The chassie bent from the front and in the middle, which bent the axle between the middle and front differental gears. The disc break is twisted, the got some damages, etc. What can I do? Is itthe radio manufacters fault, is it my fault..? I´m very mad about this. I only had the car for a couple of weeks. Is there any guarantee things on this sort f accident? Share your thoughts with me.

Thank you
-pieto-

[the_swed]

I had the same problem...... I found out that I had a bad switch between the batteries and the receiver.

[Tjappie]

Hey guys, i just ordered a TR-15 ( my 5th car, and my 3th kyosho)
and i was wondering if there's a 2-speed for it, and is it worth to fit one? The gearbox and a lot of other parts look the same as from the Superten FW-04 (one of the reasons why i bought it).

Also, can anybody tell me how many bearings and what sizes go in the car?

[James Cornwell]

I have had my inferno for 1 year. It was fine until I snapped the fuel tank during an encounter with a kerb. Now though it hardly starts. When it does it runs way too rich as unburnt fuel and oil gushes out of the exhaust. I am certain that the needle is set correctly. I think it may have something to do with the new tank.

Any ideas?

[Tjappie]

hey guys, i got my TR-15:cool: this thing is cool!
but already broke some parts: the clutch burned up, the rope on the pullstart broke, the glowplug died after 3 runs, and the front pilot shaft( the ting that holds the wheel) broke!! But i had a spare pullstart, glowplug, this clutch http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXT905&P=Z and the wheel thingie from my cheap tamiya fit perfectly!
tomorow i'm going fit the two needle carb from my fw-04 ( which has the same engine and drivetrain!

I also want to fit a 2-speed, but i need to know some things:
the stock gearing is 39T spur and 15T pinion gear
if i want a 37T spur i need a 17T pinion so it al fit's, right?
and what would be a nice toothnumber for the second gear, 41T ?
and a 13T pinion should go with that?

[Teamcalibra]

I have recently bought a TR-15 Rally in the UK. I went for the Mitsi Evo WRC...

http://www.teamcalibra.btinternet.co.uk/my_evo_front_2_4web.jpg

http://www.teamcalibra.btinternet.co.uk/my_evo_front_4web.jpg

Had great fun but want to get some hop ups. What is worth doing and what is the part number for the universal drive shafts?

What online companies can I buy from that will ship to the UK? I have found http://www.towerhobbies.co.uk/ so far.

Best regards,
Teamcalibra

[Tjappie]

see the 2 parts on the bottom of the pic? I broke those the first and second day i drove my tr-15, but the ones included with the kit where 100% plastic, these on the pic are made from plastic and metal!! strange huh?

[Teamcalibra]

I had two engine screws drop out (they were thread locked in) and this chewed up the plastic spur gear! Thankfully cheap to replace...

Having great trouble setting idle tho. Almost got it but I have to tweak the setting all the time... Go it spot on but on the next outing it's no-where near!

[Tjappie]

Does the chassis of the inferno use the same suspension parts as the rally version? I wan't to fit the lancer body and rallywheels, found out i'm not a buggy-guy:rolleyes:

[Teamcalibra]

I believe the rally version has shorter shockers...

Have a read at:
http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/tr15_rally.asp

[Tamiya4ever]

Would anyone know any info on the new Stadium Force? It seems based from the Monster Skyline. How is this TR-15 platform? :)

[uaerc]

hi

does anyone know where i can get a conversion kit for the Tr-15 buggy to the Tr 15 rally. ??

Can i use the Tr 12 OS engine on this buggy ?

The 2 speed is a good choice but i think its almost 70% of the kit value which is quite steeep just for a 2 speed ? dont you think.

well i would go for the conversion kit as it looks better than the buggy......

cheers
Aziz

[AcadDude]

Just purchased a TR-15 Stadium Force. Is this the right thread to post in?
When it says partially assembled...it should read slightly or very little assembly. Replaced stock shocks imediately. Had some extra from ST-R. Had to go with heavier springs once I got the engine mounted. Had a severe squat. Bearings would have been nice. I will go through replacing bushings after break in. I own other kyosho's and actually started in RC with Kyosho.:)
The last vehicle I got was an OFNA Titan. It's a beast. This 1/10 size truck is going to be an adjustment. Can't run over everything in my way.
I have everything ready for Break In on the engine. What would be a good running temperature for the GS15S-CR engine. I was going to post some pictures when I finally get the body painted.

[AcadDude]

Well it's together and got some paint on. Now it's engine break in time!
http://www.kccad.com/rcfun/images/StadiumForce1.JPG
http://www.kccad.com/rcfun/images/StadiumForce2.JPG

[AcadDude]

Finally got a day warm enough to stand outside for a few tanks run through. Ran a couple tanks inside. Started easy enough. Had all the exhaust fans on in the shop. Had quite the haze with them on. Well after a few more tanks of putting around in the driveway I let it rip down the street. I was happy with the response and speed. Probably going 30 mph or so. Haven't leaned it from factory settings yet. Temperatures right at 200 or less. I'll lean out till I'm running around 250 degrees and see how it runs then. Are there any other Stadium Force folks out there? Does Kyosho have a more frequented board?

[Jimmy33]

hey dude

whats the truck like? i am wondering as i am concidering getting that truck. Its a shame i dont like the body though!
lol


looks good though!

[AcadDude]

I would have prefered a nicer paint job but was unable to get the results shown on the box. The blue to white with checkered flag would have been nice but I realize my limitations on that..HeHeh. It's starting easy....runs well for a one speed...It's low center and wide suspension seem to keep it from rolling over in a turn. Haven't gotten a ramp out to see how well it flies. The kit will need some items right off. Stiffer shock springs for one. It's got several holes for mounting shocks....may even take short ones. Ran it last tank with the body on and temps stayed around 200. Still running rich but it's going around 30 mph. I'll run it like this till spring when it warms up. I've got 2 proline crowdpleaser bodies on the way that I'll have a pro airbrush for me. I haven't glued the tires on yet...probably get some streets for the stock rims. They're to nice looking to race with. LOL. Also doesn't get as dirty as my Titan does. One or two runs in that beast and it was pretty messy.

[danbrad2000]

hi, ive got a inferno tr-15 and my engines nakered, wats the best engine to get which fits? maybe an o.s? also with wat pipe.

Thanks

[AcadDude]

Did you like the original engine? I like the one I got stock....I'm used to a gas spitting messy engine in the Titan and this one is not at all messy. I'm not sure but the stock 15 I got looks alot like the OS. I thought that OS made the Kyosho engines. Anyone know for sure?

[Shoe0727]

Does anyone know how well the TR-15 rally handles offroading?

Thanks,

[danbrad2000]

HI, ive just gota o.s .15 cvrx for my inferno. wat engine mount do i need 2 fit it?

Thanks

[fasteddie9111]

hi,
i was wondering how the performance of tr-15 is? I am interested in getting a somewhat competitive buggy, competitive at least to electric 4wd buggies. It seems a little odd the way the shocks and suspension are setup, i am kinda unsure about picking up one because of this. any opinions are appreciated. thanks!

[seakaycarthik]

i wud like infor on the tr15 as well, but the onroad rally one

[Lord Hobbes]

anyone put a 4-stroker in one of these? its gonna be my summer project if i can afford it, but i want to know if anyone has ran one of these. whats the torque and power like? is it all low end? last, speed: does it like gear setups for speed. thanks

[tcable]

Anyone have any comments on this car? The link I am looking at is the following:

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=420_328&products_id=7673

Is this a reputable website?

[tcable]

By the way, I already have an Inferno TR15 and have had good luck with it so far. Here is a pic:

[donny]

I got the TR-15 subaru version. It handles fine on asphalt but driving on gravel doesn´t work. The small stones gets between the gears and stops the car from moving. Anybody had the same problem? Any ideas to prevent the gears from getting stuck?

Thank you

-pieto-

[tcable]

I haven't had that problem, but I haven't driven mine on gravel much. I believe the tr-15 is designed to run on dirt tracks the best.

[donny]

I ment dirt (sorry my English, I´m Finnish). Has anyone tried the 2-speed gearbox? How does it work? Any other good ideas for tuning? Handling, speed, cornering etc....

[tcable]

Donny, some suggestions for fun:
1. Replace bushings with bearings
2. Replace brake rotor with steel one
3. Replace stock muffler with tuned one
4. Get foam inserts for the tires if it doesn't have them
5. Put thicker oil in the shocks
6. Get bigger head to keep the engine cooler
7. 2-speed gearbox is very expensive, so I don't know if it is worth it.
8. I found the high speed needle needs to be about 3/4 turn out from closed here in Missouri. Your climate may require a different setting.
9. Tires matter quite a bit for cornering (especially in dirt), so get some that have a good bite.

[donny]

Thanks tcable.
I already got the bearings, a tunepipe (it came as standard...), different springs for the shocks. I´m driving mostly on asphalt so I´ll probably go for a set of slicks. I have my needle one round open. The gearbox is next on my list but I´m not sure is it worth the money. Has anybody tried it? Is there big difference on the performance? Does anybody know where I could get bodies for this car?

[jackal575]

will the HPI 18ss nitro star (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEE4&P=ML) fit in my TR-15??
if so, with how much modification??

i assume i will get some serious speed with this thing :D :D

[tcable]

It should fit with engine mounts. I am not sure which engine mounts to get though. I have not replaced my engine yet. If you call tower hobbies, they may be able to answer any questions you have.

[jackal575]

i live in hong kong and i dont want to pay for an international call. but do u think that this engine mount will work?? (#LXU171 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU171&P=7))

btw, i have decided to go with the T-15 instead of the 18ss

[tcable]

I will call them for you. It is a free call for me. I will get back with you what I find out, since I will like to get a new engine some day also.

[tcable]

I spoke with Kim at Tower Hobbies and she spoke with a technician, who said that that engine mount will work with the HPI T-15.

[jackal575]

cool, thanks tcable, great help!! :D :D :D

[jackal575]

im looking for a throttle return spring for my TR-15. (my car went 'spaz' today) which will fit??

btw, i have again had second thoughts of the engine i would like to try out in my TR-15. would the orion wasp .18 do well?? (1.9 HP!!!!!!)

[tcable]

Here is the set that has the spring in it:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU572&P=Z

I also have thought about 1.9 hp in my tr-15, boy it would really fly with that engine and a two speed. Maybe just getting different gears would be more than enough. Although 1.9 hp may just break all the parts from the engine to the wheel. lol!

[jackal575]

lol yeh, it probably would lol

seems kind of wasteful to buy the whole set which i have most of just for the two springs i need. ill probably just get a spring the right size from a 'machinery shop' here much cheaper

[karl kobernus]

If anyone is interested I have a TR-15 for sale

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173781

Thanks for looking

[uaerc]

Qs...

Can a stock buggy be converted into a rally version ?? is yes
What parts are required to do so !
Please help. I have one lying around for over 2 years I need to start using it.
Is a OS 15 CV R good choice engine.?

Regards
zooz

[tcable]

I am sure you can convert it, but you will need to look at the two parts lists and find what is different:

http://www.gpmd.com/cgi-bin/wgpprt100p?&I=KYOC0434

http://www.gpmd.com/cgi-bin/wgpprt100p?&I=KYOC0435

This is the engine mount for the TR15:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU171&P=7

Not sure if it will work with the OS 15 CVR though.

[jackal575]

yes, i would recomend the OS 15 CVR (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=OSMG1993&FVPROFIL=++). it would work with the engine mount and it has the same short shaft and a rotary carb (similar to the stock GS-15R) so it would go in with no mods, just the mount.

[uaerc]

My GS 15 gets hot usually after just a few minutes. Was thinking of changing the head. Which is a cheapest option for the replacement head on this one.

[jackal575]

i wouldnt know but try this one 74901-14BL (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVZ0&P=ML)

[Poolboy51]

I recently bought a TR-15 on ebay. I was wondering how well the the two-speed designed for the FW-04 fits on the TR-15 and how well it works. When RCCA initally reveiwed the TR-15 I remember they said you could use this two-speed on it. Also, its coming with a Picco .15RR and I am concerned that even if I put the two speed on it might not be able to handle the engine and the offroad conditions. Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

[Tjappie]

Hello, there a 3 different 2-speeds voor de Superten fw04 and they all fit the TR15, but I don't know if they can de used offroad.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSU18&P=Z
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZH22&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV836&P=7

[Poolboy51]

Hello, there a 3 different 2-speeds voor de Superten fw04 and they all fit the TR15, but I don't know if they can de used offroad.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSU18&P=Z
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZH22&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV836&P=7

Thanks for the links. I know atleast one of those says "on road use only" except I dont know why it would say that, maybe the gearing? Either way if I can scrape together enough cash (possibly from selling my Super RS4 and selling one of my snowboards) then I'll try and buy atleast the $50 two-speed and tell you guys how it works.

[Poolboy51]

Hi, got my TR-15 today, I'll try and post pics soon.

[aus jd 2703]

hey guy ive owned a tr-15 for nearly a year broke 3 set of bulk heads one suspension arm support 3 fuel tanks i servo case bent 3 drive shafts straightend all of em (lol im pov what can i say) and 3 clutch shoes. lol i made some front bulk heads (aluminium very rough) and some front body post. but all these part broke while near concrete i,e, smashed fron suspension on gutter and a skate park fun box. bent the rear corner of the chassis gettin 2m air outta a bowl and just hitting gutters. but on dirt i cant break it i mean im doing bmx massive doubles and it just keeps going!! so stick to dirt and ur safe lol.
now can any one tell me if any mip cvd's fit this car and what different tires are there for standard buggy form the pro lines are made for blue groove track im racing on dirt and sand soughta thing? any help would be great pm me

[aus jd 2703]

oh an i emailed kyosho the diffs arnt sealed and there are no upgrades to make them silicon oil usable but i had an idea get a lil gasket material cut it out in the shape of the diff datdada u have a sealed diff please correct me if im wrond and has any one tried stadium truck tires i bought 2 sets and some rims and nee some ofset rims i think

[Jstilt]

HI, I use to have a tr-15 for awhile but sold it for a super 10, but now I want to get back into the tr-15 so If any one has one for sale let me know
I read alot of ?'s about 2-speeds in the tr-15 but know one ever said they had one in there tr so I guess I will be the first to say I had one in mine. It was powered by a O.S. cv-r 12 with ported super 10 header and pipe. I raced dirt for awhile but then got a crazy idea to take to the local road race scene. I ran some associated springs and lowered it, put some hpi wheels and tires on it(only thing I could find at the time) and the thing hauled butt and handeled even better. my first day racing onroad and I was already keeping up with the local big boys. the only problem was they were smoking me on the straight. I did some research and fouund out about the 2-speed, dropped that sucker in and oh my god what a difference. needless to say you didn't really wanna mess with this car, or should I say buggy. that was kinda the joke on the track because here were these guys that had alot money dumped into there tc3's or rs4's and me, in my tr-15 buggy, and I was smoking them. I would have to guess i was in the top 5 out of about 75 people on average when it came to track times. I sold the buggy to buy my current super 10 but just haven't had as much fun as what I had with the buggy. it's a great off road/on road car. I think my local dirt track owner will let me race it against the gas trucks so I really wanna try to get in there and represent kyosho and the tr-15. well I will be checking in often so talk to you all later

[1stxrunner]

I have a kyosho TR-15 stadium truck. I was wandering if anybody knew if and where I can find another bodystyle that would fit on it? And/or if I might be able to find a prepainted body? (Don't trust myself to paint one yet)

[jackal575]

hey, jstilt, i might be looking to sell my TR-15. it has loads of stuff in there but i havnt tried the two spd. take a look (http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=191284)

[1stxrunner]

Where can I find hop-up parts?

[aus jd 2703]

you might only be able to do the brake disc two speed shocks and use grease in diffs also the is a three shoe clutch around but havnt seen any used yet so just check out tower hobbies but u really are limitied

[josh222]

so how do you people like the Inferno TR-15? For 200USD on tower and a 25off coupon it is really good buy :D other than bearings is there any little stuff, i should get like a new manifold?

Can it be raised with a little work? to maybe 2" inchs high and can it handle taller tries and rims like maybe off a nitro mt or 1/8th buggy wheelies?

[aus jd 2703]

hey man dont buy the buggy bye the wide suspension version it is wider there fore stabeler and also has more tyre options

[josh222]

do you have a link?

[farmerboyMT]

After reading all the posts I'm thinking my next R/Cer should be a TR-15. Just one problem which one. I like the looks of the Impreza but that may not work real well as pretty much every thing around me is gravel. Any Impreza owners out there that have run their's in gravel have any opinions. What about ride height? Looks to me like it could be a problem. The buggy and the stadium truck also hold my interest. Other than body style and rim size are there any differences?

[1stxrunner]

I am selling my stadium truck if interested........ does great on gravel. Just dont stand behind it. It tends to hurt. LOL

[aus jd 2703]

come on guys help get this forum going again has any one had any probs lol
i know i have especially with the rear diff. the dog bone slips out all the time im gonna try shimming any wayy have any of u had the same problems???

[1stxrunner]

yes I do. Just started doing it this weekend. Not sure why but will try to find out when I get new dog bones. (lost one) If you find a fix for it let me know......

[aus jd 2703]

use fuel line in the wheel cups soughta thing just like 3 mm and then just leave the drive shaft a little slop it works great thanks to my new lhs

[1stxrunner]

I will try that. thanks Any idea where I can find a new dog bone and what size thay are?? my lhs does not carry kyosho but if it knew what size it was they could match it with an HPI or something like that. Thanks, Eric

[farmerboyMT]

I don't know if this works for Kyosho, but I used ball point pen springs in my RC 10T. If the dog bones are really sloppy try them in the diff and the hub.

[aus jd 2703]

has any one tried a .18 engine in one of these????? can you say crazy power lol
btw has any one tried stadium truck tires ive bouth some gladiator 2 tires and a set of rims im waiting on a new set and then ill try it they seem to clear every thing so itll be interesting.

[Combatcm]

Anyone looking to sell one of these? I want to start a project making one electric. It should be able to dominate the 4wd off road class.

[aus jd 2703]

the stadium is wider with same shock possitions and the rally version just has a bumbper and lower shocks, the springs are hareder for road but still sitlower i dont no how also u can upgrade to high speed diff it just lowers the over all ratio
any one who owns a buggy should bye the servo saver spring that wraps around it will take a little bit of slop outta the steering

[aus jd 2703]

hey any new guys got one of theese baby's post pick every one

[1stxrunner]

I know its not the buggy but the stadium truck still counts wright?? :D

[aus jd 2703]

cool any under hood shots and any upgrades come on every one lets see em

[1stxrunner]

Its all mostly stock aside from the home made front bolk head made out of aluminum because they discontinued it from any hobby shop I checked and I also lost one of the front dog bones and cant find any of those eather. So for now it two wheel drive. If anyone knows where I can get one please let me know. As for hop-ups I cant find any of those eather so please if anyone knows where I can find anything for it let me know. Thanks, Eric :D :D

[1stxrunner]

Anyone else got any pics????????

[greenfever24]

i have a inferno tr15 and i only have one complaint i cant find any parts for it
you have any ideas on where i could find some.(websites, ect.)

[1stxrunner]

The guy at my LHS told me that they were doing away with any US distibutors.

[aus jd 2703]

there is now kyosho usa so have a look and maybe just wait

[CircuitR]

Heya guys,
I've got a TR15
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/CircuitR/RC%20car/Inferno.jpg
This is a pic when I got it. It don't look like this now, I've put the hop up heatsink, harder springs, tuned header and GS15R dual needle carb.
But I just broke the conrod due to an overported header and high nitro. :(
So I'm currently running it back in.
I'll post up some pics of it in the weekend.
As for the car it's fun to drive, pretty reliable. I've only broken the pullstart once and that was in the weekend when I was running it in and I've only been through one clutch.
I recomend this kit for a first time nitro as it is simple to build and run.
Blair

[CircuitR]

I know, I'm post whoring.
But I took a pic of the buggy today, It's a bit bashed, but at least it's running now.
It should be fully run in at the end of the weekend.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/CircuitR/RC%20car/TR15buggy.jpg
Oh yeah, I got tamiya rally tires, they are way better than the original tires.

[SevenNukes]

Hi guys,
This thread goes back like 4 years, it's crazy. Anyway, I bought an Inferno TR-15 buggy about 3 months ago. I have had a ton of fun with it, and broken it several times (it doesn't get along with curbs very well). I used to get parts from tower hobbies, but they have recently discontinued the model and all replacement parts for it.

Currently, I need pretty much an entire new rear end (the A frames, wheels, and tires). I would also like to purchase some other stuff that breaks often (it's a shame they never made more durable suspension parts for this car). Does anyone know of an alternative supplier to tower hobbies? I have tried searching on the net and going to Kyosho's website, but haven't been able to find what I am looking for.

I would hate to have to retire this car, especially since it isn't that old. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks