Spektrum DX3R PRO RADIO SYSTEM! HOT!

[PeterV]

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From www.horizonhobby.com:

DX3R DSM2 3CH Surface Radio

Key Features

30 model memory
Digital trims
Graphically depicted exponential
Graphically depicted travel adjustment
Trim rate adjustment
Steering dual rate
Steering dual rate override
Frame rate
Servo monitor
Switch assignment
Model reset
Model copy
Sub Trims
3 timer functions: countdown, count up and integrated


Overview

While DX3R’s intelligently designed ergonomics are the first thing that catches the eye, it is the superior responsiveness of its advanced 2.4GHz DSM2 technology that will get people talking. In addition to unparalleled freedom and interference protection, DSM2 has a faster response time than any other spread spectrum or PPM system. With it, you will be able to hold the “line” around a track with a level of precision and control unlike anything you have experienced before. And because DSM2 uses direct sequence spread spectrum technology, you’ll maintain this superior response rate no matter how “noisy” the 2.4GHz environment gets.


Specs

# of Channels: 3
Modulation: DSM2
Band: 2.4GHz
Receiver: SPMSR3100
Model Memory: 30 Model Memory

[norcalracer_707]

That thing is sweet looking.

[chilly4kc]

What I like is the 30 model memory. Man I wish I had 30 models to work with! I'm lucky if I can keep 3 trucks running! :D

[PeterV]

Think of it as 30 SETUP memory--who has 30 cars? :)

[chilly4kc]

I guess it might come in handy if you have one car and hit 30 tracks and you want to keep your settings for every track?

Bottom line is that Spektrum just raised the bar for radios.

[t9dragon]

Finally a Spektrum with more then 3 Model Memory.

By the way I have 15 different cars, so I'm halfway to the 30 the DX3R can handle.

I wonder if the other Spektrum receivers will work with it? How many receivers come with the radio?

[loadleft]

is there or will there be telemetry?

[traxxas-dude]

Thats a pretty nice looking radio, I like it.

$320 isn't too bad either, I paid $440 for my R-1 Pro 3 years ago, and this is way sweeter.

[chilly4kc]

Their release doesn't say if it is backwards compatiable or not. Since this radio is based of DSM2 technology and not DSM then maybe it isn't?

Looks like it only comes with one of the new SPMSR3100 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMSR3100) recievers.

Doesn't say anything about servos either, but I would think it would come with servo horns, and a JR/Spekrum 590M and 270 standard servo.

It looks like Spektrum finally has a "Pro" radio so that you don'y need to buy a M11 and then buy M11 Spekrum modules.

[4DMNYC]

Think of it as 30 SETUP memory--who has 30 cars? :)

:D :D :D :D :D :D ME :D :D :D :D :D :D

lol


Seriously though, this new Spektrum looks pretty good. Will the older Spektrum receivers work with the new system?

[Linkster]

WOW!!! That looks odder than the Nomadio Sensor!!!!
Finally us Nomadioites will have some revenge on the people making fun of our radio's. lol
Hopefully Spektrum made it faster than the current system.
The only features I like about this is are the 30 model memory (The Nomadio React has 40) and the Huge screen.

[rezenclowd3]

If your paying that much for a radio....do you really want substandard servos? Personally Ill keep my M11, or if I can, trade for a 3pks.

[metalry101]

Think of it as 30 SETUP memory--who has 30 cars? :)
Not me. I only have 25 or so. 30 would just be ridiculous. ;) :D

This is a nice lookin radio. I'm interested to see pricing information on it.

I'm also curious if it's backwards compatible, meaning do all of my standard and Pro Spektrum Rx's work with it, or will I have to buy all new recievers if I buy this Tx?

[t9dragon]

Horizon has it listed for $319.99

[Linkster]

WOAH!!!!
More expensive than a React or Sensor. lol
Horizon seems to have alot of hope for this if its that much money.

[The_Mini_Me]

"DSM2 has a faster response time than any other spread spectrum or PPM system"

Does this mean its using a faster than 100 framerate than the Nomadio or Airtronics? Or that its latency is lower than both? Spectrum has NO tech details about DSM2 on their site. They also go on about how sequential channels is better "And because DSM2 uses direct sequence spread spectrum technology, you’ll maintain this superior response rate no matter how “noisy” the 2.4GHz environment gets." Hmm, the other side (FHSS) has said the opposite.

Where is the truths in all this propaganda both sides are spurting?

Interesting they are no longer using JR/KO radio bodies. Wonder of JR is going to keep around with Horizon that much longer since this is all direct competition? I'm really wondering what JR will offer themselves. (JR fanman)

Final question.. is this a true digital system or analog to digital signal like the older dxs? (Thinking former to correspond with the dsm2 claim)

[Jason Sams]

I've held a mocked up version of the DX3R and it's really comfortable! The radio should be extremly light because it only runs on 4.8 volts.

[balang_479]

fianlly a good screen...

[Sorcerer001]

Does this mean its using a faster than 100 framerate than the Nomadio or Airtronics?


I think that touting a "Faster frame rate!" is pretty rediculous, anyway. When was the last time you drove a high end race car with high end digital servos and said to yourself "Man, I wish the frame rate was faster!". Uh, never. 99.9% of the population wouldn't notice a difference in response if you'd swap a lower end FM radio in place of a DSM setup. What I care about is glitch free operation, great ergonomics, battery efficiency for those long mains, telemetry, and to never have any range issues. Other than my first Spektrum system having some issues with low receiver pack voltage, I've got no complaints about what is currently available.
I've switched from an R-1 Pro with a Spektrum setup to a Nomadio Sensor a few month back. It's a bit ugly, but I love the ergonomics, ease of use, and all the features. I personally can't tell the difference in response between the R-1's standard module (non-PCM or PCM), the Spectrum module (standard or Pro), and my Sensor. Response isn't what I was in the market for, since a human typically can't rotate a wheel or pull a trigger faster than .13, MAYBE .10 of a second. The initial jump in to DSM was for the obvious - NO MORE CRYSTALS!!! How great was that? The switch from Spektrum, for me, was partially due to the built-in telemetry of the Nomadio, in addition to all the little gadgets (I'm a freak that way).
I'm happy to see that Horizon is releasing a higher-end setup, it appears to be a killer radio. But it may be time to chill on bragging about frame rates and response time, since it's more a marketing ploy than anything else. Buy the radio for all the features your able to see and touch, the radio will keep up with your driving, no matter how fast you think you are.

[The_Mini_Me]

True enough, but as that range gets more crowded with other devices, I would like to know my radio wont be obsolete. Especially since this is DSM2. If DSM worked well enough, why bother with DSM2? Thats where the FHSS versus the DSS needs to be addressed truthfully by a third party. In example, I read on another forum of someone whose spectrum controlled heli would drop anytime someone turned on a specific wireless video camera on rctech.

I do like the lowered wheel on this more than the react. At the same time being able to upgrade your firmware, charge your radio, change settings, and use as a joystick on your computer really is quite a feat the React can do. At the other end, this radio does look (at least) to be of better plastics than the Reacts. The big downer of both is where is the backlight?

[Dagger Thrasher]

Wow, looks like an interesting piece of kit! The specs don't look like anything ground-breaking, but I'd really like to know what's behind this "DSM2". It'll have to be nothing short of amazing to be faster than the React...but why Spektrum are saying that DSSS is better than FHDSS is beyond me.

Still, the big screen is very nice...

[metalry101]

where is the backlight?
No argument here. My M11 and my Helios are both backlit. It may not seem like much, but I do drive my stuff at night or at dusk, and the backlight just makes all the difference in the world.

[chewie]

nomadio says in order to make the react compatable with spectrum recivers. they have to have the react in super slow mode...

[MrCrash]

Strange....

[sugs]

A little more info about DSM2 that I found on specktrumrc.com:

Above and beyond the basic features of DSM, there has been a technological breakthrough for both air and surface applications thanks to Spektrum. An updated version of DSM technology referred to as DSM2 (second generation protocol) makes it possible to fly any size model with the convenience, safety, and peace of mind of Spektrum. With DSM2, the total latency of your radio system has been greatly reduced, while the bit-rate has been increased. When combined, these improvements provide hobbyists with a faster and more locked-in feeling when compared to traditional 27MHz, 72MHz, or 75MHz radio systems. DSM2 also provided a new opportunity when separating the two receivers. By providing superior path diversity, the DSM2 receiver can now see a broader RF environment.

[HYPA]

Looks fantastic but I still like my M11 with Spektrum Pro module.

[ElectricThunder]

I find it not quite visually appealing....:D

The only feature I wish I had was the 30 model memories (so this way I'd just have to buy receivers instead of entire systems for any future vehicles). I only have 3 vehicles though (one of which isn't working at the moment), so my DX3.0 is just fine.:)

[rhcsavage21]

i found my next radio :D

[trailranger]

I am just not sold on this untill backwards compatibility. Cause if it is not, I have to make a choice: Sell my 8 receives and radio and buy the new system or Keep my old setup, and step upto a m11 and buy evetyone's elses sr3500's for cheap.

[JakeE]

I am just not sold on this untill backwards compatibility. Cause if it is not, I have to make a choice: Sell my 8 receives and radio and buy the new system or Keep my old setup, and step upto a m11 and buy evetyone's elses sr3500's for cheap.

If the the Spektrum radios for use in aircraft are any kind of indication then the the DX3R should be backwards compatible with existing DSM1 receivers. The reason I say this is that the original Spektrum air radio (DX6, uses DSM1) is not compatible with the new AR7000 receiver (DSM2) that was launched along side their most recent air radio, the DX7 (DSM2). However, the DX7 is backwards compatible with the older AR6000 receivers (DSM1). This, to me at least, indicates that the possibility exists that the DX3R will be compatible with the existing Spektrum surface receivers (SR3000, SR3500 and possibly the SR3000HRS). I agree that it would be nice to know for sure before making a purchasing decision.

[juntom10]

oh my god!
that thing looks nice!@!

[sim600]

JakeE,
What's the story with DSM2? Is it The Future?

[JakeE]

JakeE,
What's the story with DSM2? Is it The Future?

To be honest, I'm just going off the information available from Spektrum's web site. Unfortunately, there isn't a great deal of information regarding the difference between the original DSM and DSM2.

[rhcsavage21]

i keep hearing that spektrum systems are slow. is it as fast as a FM radio?

[chukb]

Finally a Spektrum with more then 3 Model Memory.



the new DX3.0 has 4 model memory. ;)

[RCMTracer]

That thing is sweet looking.

AMEN!

[metalry101]

If the the Spektrum radios for use in aircraft are any kind of indication then the the DX3R should be backwards compatible with existing DSM1 receivers. The reason I say this is that the original Spektrum air radio (DX6, uses DSM1) is not compatible with the new AR7000 receiver (DSM2) that was launched along side their most recent air radio, the DX7 (DSM2). However, the DX7 is backwards compatible with the older AR6000 receivers (DSM1). This, to me at least, indicates that the possibility exists that the DX3R will be compatible with the existing Spektrum surface receivers (SR3000, SR3500 and possibly the SR3000HRS). I agree that it would be nice to know for sure before making a purchasing decision.
That's a good point. I dunno how I forgot that, but you're exactly right. They did make the air systems backwards compatible, so I would imagine the surface systems would be the same way. Good thinking. Hopefully you're right.

[sim600]

i keep hearing that spektrum systems are slow. is it as fast as a FM radio?



The radios originally designed with FM in mind (like M-11, 3PK and Helios) work faster with FM modules. Spektrum is claiming this DSM2 works faster than any FM though.

[wishingfortlt1]

(set to the tune of the "pink panther" theme)

i want.......i want.............i want i want i want................... right nowwwwwwwwwwwwwooooowwwwwww....


hehe

[rhcsavage21]

The radios originally designed with FM in mind (like M-11, 3PK and Helios) work faster with FM modules. Spektrum is claiming this DSM2 works faster than any FM though.

i'm running a MX3 radio, i just want to know if i will see a difference between them.

[maxxmustang]

duuuuuuse!!! once i start racing thats whats going to be in my hand!

[sim600]

Is "Trim rate adjustment" the Spektrum name for end point adjustment?

[chewie]

two words.... go nomadio

[rezenclowd3]

^^^Everyone has their opinion of the radios dude.... When you pay this much for the radios, it wont be the radio that makes or breaks you....unless of course it fails or glitches, but your driving skills. I still see quite a few pros and pro-level racers using the "laggy" spektrum, but it isn't holding them back....

About the lag that is introduced anyway, say it is 10millisecons of lag, that roughly equates to 1ft traveled @ 60mph. So you have to turn 1ft sooner, but how long are you traveling @ or above 60mph? Unless of course your an 8th scale onroad at a track like Sun Valley.... Nomadio_Sales knows what Im talking about there;-)
BTW, I still need to try SV out....Ive heard its to die for as a large flowing track.

[chewie]

im not talking speed. im talking about how much you can do with the radio. and its tech support.. ive never seen anything like nomadio . in any way shape or form..

its quite nice to have a radio that has tech support that has chats every monday. and has a fourm to discuss what you would like to see happen to the radio. and its upgradeable through the computer.

dont get me wrong this is a super nice radio but my money would rather be spent on nomadio.. first of the telemetry is a world apart espically for nitro drivers.. real time engine rpm and tempature. and not to mention reciver pack voltage. which are the three critcal peices of information that a nitro driver needs to know..
to me all these radios out are a mere show of who can flash what. the brightest..
i call my nomadio another tool in my pit box. because now that i have it i dont know how i could have gotten along without it.

as far as speed. i can say unless your a pro driver or driving some super mod car you wont knotice it. now for funtionability and a racers radio.. nomadio is the way to go.

lets put it in a way alot of people can relate..

nascar.. back in the day.. it was simple and got the job done realivly well..

nascar now.. all this technology. and it still gets done.. but it gets done much better.

[Linkster]

Well said Chewie!!!!

[rhcsavage21]

Amen :D

[rezenclowd3]

Well, I know that the majority of features are the same as the other top notch radios. I dont know about you, but Ive never needed forum support or tech support to use my radio :D The only problems Ive had are with my M11, the wheel bearing got dirty as the offroad track I run at is insanely dusty, and my old DX3 where a pot went bad. I dont need or want telemetry, but the Spektrum has it also. The Nomadio is a good radio, I will give you that, but it is NOT like the analogy you have given, otherwise pros would NEED the Nomadio's to win. Now to be fair, I have tried the React and the majority of other top-of-the-line radios, and really the only reason I use the top radios is because of the superior speed and precision, as the only feature I use is EPA and the trims. Expo is for 3D heli pilots as THATS hard! ;-)

About the speed, yes it is noticeable, but it is not enough for most of the classes to make a difference of a win or a loss.

[The_Mini_Me]

Wait, so the dsm2 has less lag than nomadio? Don't suppose someone can fill us in with the latency differences from hrs fm, dsm, dsm2, and nomadio tech?

[chewie]

Well, I know that the majority of features are the same as the other top notch radios. I dont know about you, but Ive never needed forum support or tech support to use my radio :D The only problems Ive had are with my M11, the wheel bearing got dirty as the offroad track I run at is insanely dusty, and my old DX3 where a pot went bad. I dont need or want telemetry, but the Spektrum has it also. The Nomadio is a good radio, I will give you that, but it is NOT like the analogy you have given, otherwise pros would NEED the Nomadio's to win. Now to be fair, I have tried the React and the majority of other top-of-the-line radios, and really the only reason I use the top radios is because of the superior speed and precision, as the only feature I use is EPA and the trims. Expo is for 3D heli pilots as THATS hard! ;-)

About the speed, yes it is noticeable, but it is not enough for most of the classes to make a difference of a win or a loss.




1. expo is very useful when running onroad.. espically when running foams the car can be very very very twitchy on the back straight and the expo calms it down. or if your car feels sluggish. you can have the expo speed it up. its not just for helicopter people..

2.spectrum does not have telemetry .. it has a seperate modual. but its not built in.

3. the only reason why i go to a support forum is to suggest what they should change on the radio. with teh next beta change.. dont like the font or layout of the screen boom ask and its done.. changed. none of the other radios even have that sort of thing goin on. its stuck that way forever.. no soft keys to take you to a desired setting..

for instance since i use only sub trims.. do you know about sub trims? if your using a m 11 im sure you do. and if you dont. please dont comment on what you think a good high end radio is. any ways. instead of the buttons around the wheel being normal trims i changed them to sub trims. and expo trims.. it keeps me from having to go into the radio and pull over. i can adjust on the fly. thats why the nomadio is so nice. you have the ability to make all the buttons do whatever you want.

4. today i was running a nitro.. and guess what.. i had a temp sensor. that way i could keep a eye on the temp without having to bring it in and then check and my nomadio warned me when it got too hot by vibrating and beeping. does your m11 do that.. (didnt think so )
and then after a while it gave me a different vibe tone. yes they are adjustable.. and i looked down and it was showing me the reciver pack voltage was low.. i set the voltage at which it would warn me

5.. and when i looked back up and when i tried driving it back to me the (built in) failsafes were kicked in it was at full brake.. and the steering was locked forward. (does your m11 have built in failsafes)

all im saying is. if you do run nitro. and you have the money why buy these other radios that dont give you all the info.. and you may say well the remote is a higher cost..

ok lets break this down.. figure in the cost of aas or rechargeables.. the nomadio comes with a radio pack....
2. factor in the cost of failsafes... (the nomadio has built in ones.)
3. ok spectrum can have telemetry too.. how much is that (seperate) unit..
4. lets say you already have spectrum.. and you want a radio for your new nitro that has telemetry and the rest of your cars are electric.. the nomadio can run spectrum recivers.. but the react has to be put in a (super slow mode)
5.adjustability. through the computer.. and can be used as a joystick for those rainy days.


i can go on and on..

so you know what you stick with your basic(yes i said basic) m11 and ill stick with my nomadio and alway have the upper hand on you in any conditions..


hell even if your not a racer. and just want a really nice radio go with the nomadios.. as a basher/racer my self. i sure am glad i have telemetry it makes my bashing day just that much better.. because i dont have to worry about temps every two seconds.. it buzzes when i get to hot and then i pull it in and make adjustments..

have a good day.. and im sure you guys will make the right choice. :wave:

[Linkster]

:teacher: Spektrum fans around the world just got pwned. :driving: ROFL
Spektrum... Dont take this stuff the wrong way... Your radio's are nice entry level 2.4ghz systems but... They just dont have what Nomadio does.

[metalry101]

:teacher: Spektrum fans around the world just got Pwned. :driving: ROFL
Really? I don't feel any different. My Spektrum stuff all still works. Maybe this "pwned" nonsense isn't all it's cracked up to be? Maybe I just have special powers that make me immune to your "pwnedness?" Or maybe nobody got "pwned" because, if nothing else, "pwned" isn't a word.

[Linkster]

Really? I don't feel any different. My Spektrum stuff all still works. Maybe this "pwned" nonsense isn't all it's cracked up to be?
Rofl... :D :D :D :D :D

[ElectricThunder]

Really? I don't feel any different. My Spektrum stuff all still works. Maybe this "pwned" nonsense isn't all it's cracked up to be? Maybe I just have special powers that make me immune to your "pwnedness?" Or maybe nobody got "pwned" because, if nothing else, "pwned" isn't a word.
I concur. Linkster just got POONED.......................(yeah, I just pulled that one out of my...errr....orifice).

[pleaseletmeon34]

ive never seen anything like nomadio . in any way shape or form..


IDK, Looks like one of the old ladies props to me (sounds like it has the same functions too) It is the most awkward radio I ever held.

It just doesn't look right in a guys hands.

[chewie]

what???

and ive held m11s m8s and the ko propo radios.. and they are downright uncomfy.. the weight of the radio.. not that there is any therer.. weighs about as much as a eight cell radio pack... rests all on the side of your hand and thumb . i find it to be probably one of the most comfortable radios.. even over my old jr radios.

its so light its almost like its non existant..

i think ill tie some m11s kopropo helios and the futaba all together and use them as anchors this summer when im out on the boat.

[rezenclowd3]

1. expo is very useful when running onroad.. espically when running foams the car can be very very very twitchy on the back straight and the expo calms it down. or if your car feels sluggish. you can have the expo speed it up. its not just for helicopter people..

2.spectrum does not have telemetry .. it has a seperate modual. but its not built in.

3. the only reason why i go to a support forum is to suggest what they should change on the radio. with teh next beta change.. dont like the font or layout of the screen boom ask and its done.. changed. none of the other radios even have that sort of thing goin on. its stuck that way forever.. no soft keys to take you to a desired setting..

for instance since i use only sub trims.. do you know about sub trims? if your using a m 11 im sure you do. and if you dont. please dont comment on what you think a good high end radio is. any ways. instead of the buttons around the wheel being normal trims i changed them to sub trims. and expo trims.. it keeps me from having to go into the radio and pull over. i can adjust on the fly. thats why the nomadio is so nice. you have the ability to make all the buttons do whatever you want.

4. today i was running a nitro.. and guess what.. i had a temp sensor. that way i could keep a eye on the temp without having to bring it in and then check and my nomadio warned me when it got too hot by vibrating and beeping. does your m11 do that.. (didnt think so )
and then after a while it gave me a different vibe tone. yes they are adjustable.. and i looked down and it was showing me the reciver pack voltage was low.. i set the voltage at which it would warn me

5.. and when i looked back up and when i tried driving it back to me the (built in) failsafes were kicked in it was at full brake.. and the steering was locked forward. (does your m11 have built in failsafes)

all im saying is. if you do run nitro. and you have the money why buy these other radios that dont give you all the info.. and you may say well the remote is a higher cost..

ok lets break this down.. figure in the cost of aas or rechargeables.. the nomadio comes with a radio pack....
2. factor in the cost of failsafes... (the nomadio has built in ones.)
3. ok spectrum can have telemetry too.. how much is that (seperate) unit..
4. lets say you already have spectrum.. and you want a radio for your new nitro that has telemetry and the rest of your cars are electric.. the nomadio can run spectrum recivers.. but the react has to be put in a (super slow mode)
5.adjustability. through the computer.. and can be used as a joystick for those rainy days.


i can go on and on..

so you know what you stick with your basic(yes i said basic) m11 and ill stick with my nomadio and alway have the upper hand on you in any conditions..


hell even if your not a racer. and just want a really nice radio go with the nomadios.. as a basher/racer my self. i sure am glad i have telemetry it makes my bashing day just that much better.. because i dont have to worry about temps every two seconds.. it buzzes when i get to hot and then i pull it in and make adjustments..

have a good day.. and im sure you guys will make the right choice. :wave:

1) I used to run onroad, and I still did not like expo. I think it is maybe because I have played the violin for 13 or so years and have very steady finger control. BTW I know its not just for heli guys...just a sarcastic comment;-) , as I used to fly helis, but I still also fly airplanes...

2) You are correct in that it is built in to the Nomadio's but am I correct in that you still have to buy the sensors separate? (Nomadio I mean)

3) Actually the 3pks and M11 has programmable buttons also, though the M11 is more for programming buttons to change settings rather than take you to a certain screen. And yes I know about sub trims, I also have my sub trims on the radio wheel, and I used to have the expo setting keyed to the M11 dial on the side.... This is nothing new to the Nomadio, though I do believe MAYBE the Nomadios are a little more versatile in choosing what each button does, or what screen it brings you to.

4) My M11 has a vibration feature, though I use it to warn me when the main is halfway over, or in a qualifier when I have 1 minute left.... Again, I dont want telemetry, but others may. The M11 also has different alarm/ key tones, in fact 10 total, and can be adjusted as seen fit as 2 are used at a time. Though I dont like my radio beeping as it may bother other drivers on the stand. There is stand etiquette you know....

5) My spektrum module has built in failsafe ;-) Though mine is slight brake and full right. Though to tell you, I am thinking of changing to the 3pks to move to FHSS and try that for a while..... Still, that has built in failsafe. Again, not specific to Nomadios stuff...

So far what you have listed I pretty much have on my M11....dont see how basic it is, though mebbe you like looking at your screen more than I with the cool pics you can add to your radio. Vibration features give me the willies anyway....;-)

Well, if you tune by temps, I am very sorry....tune buy sight/ sound and performance....

Also, can use the M11 as a joystick, just buy the VRC adapter, and if using an Apple computer (I do) use USB overdrive:-) Though I do like that feature on the React as it is less $$.

Please next time look at the features of the other competitors brands before you bash these other companies products, saying they dont have this or that feature.

[chewie]

yes you have to buy sensors.. but it already has battery voltage built in..

the sensors ar around 20 dollars a peice. the only ones left to buy are temp and rpm

[rezenclowd3]

what???

and ive held m11s m8s and the ko propo radios.. and they are downright uncomfy.. the weight of the radio.. not that there is any therer.. weighs about as much as a eight cell radio pack... rests all on the side of your hand and thumb . i find it to be probably one of the most comfortable radios.. even over my old jr radios.

its so light its almost like its non existant..

i think ill tie some m11s kopropo helios and the futaba all together and use them as anchors this summer when im out on the boat.

Well comfortable is all opinion. I find my M11 just slightly uncomfortable, and may buy a 3pks, but the weight does not bother me. You go ahead and trash some $200-300 radios, but if a fanboy feels thats what hes gotta do to get attention, go on right ahead :D

[chewie]

ahem... lets see i belive the nomadio sells for around 288.88....

its right up there buddy..
and i dont want a heavy thing in my hand.. y do you th ink they sell lipo radio pack replacements.. to make the radios lighter

[rezenclowd3]

...And because there is less maintenance and longer life from a lipo....

And I was referring to you throwing the M11s, KO's and Futabas into the river for anchors.... not the price of the Nomadio. Statements like that are very childish....

[rezenclowd3]

....ANYWAY, sorry guys off topic....

This IS the Spektrum DX3R thread...

I just get frustrated by overzealous fan-boys, but that is no excuse to turn it into what it has been made these past few comments...

I really really hope Spektrum/ Horizon expands as to what the differences are between DSM and DSM2...

[chewie]

trust me im not in any way dissing the spectrum all im saying is if your racing nitro and would like the option of telemety . go to nomadio..

now that i own one ill never to back to anything less..


this radio does look sweet though..

[HPI_freak]

i will never buy Spektrum again. i had a DX3 for 2 years. the anntenas are POORLY soldered. i had to re-solder mine 3-4 times. the first time it happend, i didnt want to mess with it, so i sent it to Horizon. they needed all this stupid paperwork with it, like where i bought it, when i bought it, how much i paid. then, when i finally sent it to them, it took 2 MONTHS to get it back?!?!?! hello, i am a racer, thats a lot of missed races!!!!! when i had a question about which recievers i could use with the DX3, i looked for an email. NO LUCK. i looked for any kind of contact info and all i could find was a phone #, so i called them. what did i get?? and automated voice machine that referred me to FAQ's. I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO A PERSON! it appears to me that horizon hobby wants customers to buy their product, and then never hear from them again. i am fully against Horizon Hobby in every way because i think they are like a wanna-be RC Wal-Mart. as for Nomadio, i could email (and get a response with-in a day!), or call and get LIVE help, or post on the forms (and get same day reponse) or go into the chat room. Nomadio LOVEs their customers. this "NEW" Spektrum radio is just a repeat of the DX3 with..........oh boy, 4 model memory instead of 3! pshhhhh. with nomadio, you NEVER have to worry about this happening, or even anything like it.

[rezenclowd3]

^^^^ Sorry have you read?! It has 30 model memory. And as far as the RX antenna, they are easy to resolder.....I think it is only a problem with the regular receivers though....

[chukb]

i will never buy Spektrum again. i had a DX3 for 2 years. the anntenas are POORLY soldered. i had to re-solder mine 3-4 times. the first time it happend, i didnt want to mess with it, so i sent it to Horizon. they needed all this stupid paperwork with it, like where i bought it, when i bought it, how much i paid. then, when i finally sent it to them, it took 2 MONTHS to get it back?!?!?! hello, i am a racer, thats a lot of missed races!!!!! when i had a question about which recievers i could use with the DX3, i looked for an email. NO LUCK. i looked for any kind of contact info and all i could find was a phone #, so i called them. what did i get?? and automated voice machine that referred me to FAQ's. I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO A PERSON! it appears to me that horizon hobby wants customers to buy their product, and then never hear from them again. i am fully against Horizon Hobby in every way because i think they are like a wanna-be RC Wal-Mart. as for Nomadio, i could email (and get a response with-in a day!), or call and get LIVE help, or post on the forms (and get same day reponse) or go into the chat room. Nomadio LO VEs their customers. this "NEW" Spektrum radio is just a repeat of the DX3 with..........oh boy, 4 model memory instead of 3! pshhhhh. with nomadio, you NEVER have to worry about this happening, or even anything like it.

Horizon has awesome customer service. I get a real person every time I call. I don't know what happened with you, but whenever I send Spektrum stuff in for warranty they fix it free within a week or two and have only asked for a receipt once out of the 3 or 4 times I've sent stuff in.

I have a DX3 and a DX3.0 and I love them both.

[rhcsavage21]

ahh this reminds me of a play.. hmmmm romeo and juliet? with out them, on one side we have the specktrum family and on the other is the normadio family.... now change our antennas to light sabers and we got a movie :D

[chewie]

lol the nomadio doesnt have a antenna. and its shaped like a phaser gun . and everone knows that you dont bring a sword to a gun fight.

[MrCrash]

Have you ever seen Star Wars? The guys with the guns die first if there is a Jedi present ;)

[rezenclowd3]

s'ok. The Spektrum is like a phaser with a small bayonett ;-) 2 ways to getcha! Still why couldnt they have put the antenna internally like the Nomadio did, less to worry about and break...

[rhcsavage21]

lol I'm gunna start a script now :D
i would say its all with personal prefrance. so some people stand behind what they have, thats no problem. its like the xbox and playstation. i have fights all the time with people who feel that one is better then the other. really i could care less but i always preferred playstation, but then again i prefer pc over anything lol. in my opinion as nice as the spektrum i would have to say normadio, i have read a lot of good stuff on it as well as the nice customer service.

all i have to say is if you dont have something nice to say dont say ANYTHING.

[rezenclowd3]

Ugh video games.....I got into RC during college to quite my "gaming" addiction. I was turning too pale....:D

[rhcsavage21]

lol i do both but more or less its homework right now lol

[RacerTim]

From Introducing the Spektrum DX3R on Horizon's Website:
"...Finally, the DX3R is completely backwards-compatible with existing Spektrum receivers, allowing you to utilize any SR3000, SR3100, or SR3500 receivers you may currently have."

[The_Mini_Me]

But in doing so do you loose the dsm2 latency advantage? All these questions and no representative to answer. :(

[rob_s]

lol the nomadio doesnt have a antenna. and its shaped like a phaser gun . and everone knows that you dont bring a sword to a gun fight.
What model of Nomadio do you have?

[rezenclowd3]

What he means is the antenna is not visible. It is internal....and he is talking about the React.

[rezenclowd3]

But in doing so do you loose the dsm2 latency advantage? All these questions and no representative to answer. :(

If you use a "slower" receiver with a faster module or radio, it has the latency of the slower component. IE if you use the DSM2 (DX3R) but use the original or pro Rx, you will be experiencing the latency of the Rx.

[GTX]

Cool. Now make a cheap DX2R!!!! for us budget racers :D

[juntom10]

Cool. Now make a cheap DX2R!!!! for us budget racers :D
i agree :D

[balang_479]

anyone know of any prices yet... im so gonna pick one up as soon as it comes out.

[The_Mini_Me]

If you use a "slower" receiver with a faster module or radio, it has the latency of the slower component. IE if you use the DSM2 (DX3R) but use the original or pro Rx, you will be experiencing the latency of the Rx.

Well that kinda sucks on the dsm2. I wanted to use micro receivers with it. If I am going to not be able to take advantage of the quicker response time (whether its humanely possible to notice or not), seems no real advantage in the extra cost the dsm2 tech adds to this.

[rezenclowd3]

Well, what did you expect? Its not like technology can upgrade itself, unless of course it has user flash-able firmware...like the Nomadio, but even that may not make it faster.

[sim600]

I think it's great that DSM2 transmitters (or at least the stick controller, not sure about this DX3R yet) is backwards compatible with DSM receivers. You can't reasonably expect your new transmitter to make your old receivers work faster or better. It's great that they still work, and let's face it, it's not like they're very shabby receivers at all. Most people are still on FM. You can put your one DSM2 receiver in your favourite car and your DSM receivers in your other cars. If you really have to have DSM2 in all your cars, there is always double-sided tape and elbow grease.

[The_Mini_Me]

Well, what did you expect? Its not like technology can upgrade itself, unless of course it has user flash-able firmware...like the Nomadio, but even that may not make it faster.


Thats the problem. I didnt know what to expect since there is so little information on dsm2 specs. Anyhow at this point the react is looking better. That is if they can get a micro transceiver out.

[Windsorguy99]

The Nomadio micro transceiver has been completed and is awaiting final FCC approval....which should be any time now..

[TKCastle]

Sick! Now I can get a Crt .5.

[JeepGuyNJ]

So I saw somewhere that today was supposed to be the release date. Can anyone confirm that??? If not, when will Spektrum let us buy this thing???

[GTX]

Anyone see the review of this system in one of the recent R/C mags? This Tx takes only 4 AAs!!! :D

[aktoaz]

That would make TX packs a lot cheaper, or use a 2S LiPo and a 6V regulator in there.

[Pat Fierle]

www.rc411.com has a review of it. I beleive its in the "under the scope" section.

I did see on amainhobbies website it was suppose to be released today but its still on backorder.

[Pat Fierle]

well i just checked amain again and i lied, its not on backorder anymore. i'm going to order mine today or on monday. Cant wait!

[style-n-speed]

Before you buy this radio anywhere else, goto www.ultimatehobbies.com I bought mine there, and it is only $269.95 with FREE, yes, FREE Shipping! I had one ordered from Amain, and someone posted on one of my threads in another forum and gave me the heads up! So now I am returning the favor! Please dont be sceptical! They are on the ball! You can even call them if you feel more compfortable! Go check it out and see for your self! :cool:

[schenck77]

thanks for the tip. I am thinking about getting rid of my jr z1 and picking up one of these. So how do you like the controller?

[kydawg1]

Ultimate is GREAT. I order from them often and they have never let me down.