Kyosho NASCAR Mini-Z stock cars [Archive]

MattHiggins

12-28-2006, 05:02 PM

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From Kyosho:
NASCAR, the most popular racing series in the US, has teamed up with Kyosho to produce the only hobby-grade, officially licensed NASCAR RC cars available in the world.

The Kyosho team visited the racing development facilities of many of the top NASCAR racing teams, and even attended NASCAR events, all in an effort to ensure that the bodies include exceptional detail that is unmatched in accuracy and scale.

The Mini-Z i-Series chassis features the same quality chassis construction as the rest of the Mini-Z line-up, which is the standard when it comes to mini RC vehicles. It has independent front suspension with solid axle rear suspension, just like the full-size racecars. Additionally, the electronics feature full digital proportional control, instead of the analog resistor-type controllers so common in cheaper mini-size cars. This means you have fully proportional control of forward, reverse, and steering with digital precision.

The series begins with the 2005 Ford Taurus of Carl Edwards and the 2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo of Kevin Harvick. The 2005 Taurus represents the car used by Edwards for his first full season of NASCAR NEXTEL Cup racing for Roush Racing, in which he scored four wins and two poles. Harvick's 2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo is a replica of the Childress Racing car used to win at Phoenix, Watkins Glen and Richmond, and the same car that won a total of five races and one pole award during the 2006 season.

30792-99B - Carl Edwards '05 Office Depot #99 Ford Taurus - Street Price: $99.99
30793-29B - Kevin Harvick '06 Goodwrench #29 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - Street Price: $99.99

MattHiggins

12-28-2006, 05:14 PM

Look for them to be on shelves in mid February.

Prelude14WRX

12-28-2006, 05:49 PM

awesome! :D Would be easy to set up a mini oval in the basement :p

suckfish

12-28-2006, 06:25 PM

just when I thought I didnt want something else.. these look really cool and the oval in the basement would be awesome some high bank ovals.. hmmm

balang_479

12-28-2006, 06:42 PM

you gotta love Nascar, even if they do go round in circles.

StevePond

12-28-2006, 06:52 PM

RCP Tracks is making a special oval track specifically for the release of this car. :driving:

microrcdude

12-28-2006, 07:06 PM

Man i want to buy one of these for when the race car isnt in the garage, hehe.

Prelude14WRX

12-28-2006, 07:47 PM

RCP Tracks is making a special oval track specifically for the release of this car. :driving:

cool....wonder if it will have a super speedway set-up...big banks :cool:

awnelson

12-28-2006, 09:40 PM

Will Kyosho sell minature redneck fans to place around the circle?

KevinH

12-28-2006, 09:49 PM

popcorn Man that 99 car would look great on my desk.

suckfish

12-28-2006, 10:30 PM

Chevy Rules... #29

traxxas_fan101

12-28-2006, 10:54 PM

now lessee a #2 car

The_Mini_Me

12-28-2006, 11:51 PM

Will Kyosho sell minature redneck fans to place around the circle?

Oh god.. that made my day. :)

metalry101

12-29-2006, 12:30 AM

Will Kyosho sell minature redneck fans to place around the circle?
That is just a ridiculous stereotype. That's the type of innapropriate nonsense that offends people. :mad: :mad: :mad:

NICE. :D ROLFMAO

Oh...and about the cars...Mini-Z's are...meh...at best IMO, but I suppose on the right track these could be a lot of fun.

Old_School_RC_1

12-29-2006, 07:23 AM

That's awesome! About time someone jumped on the NASCAR bandwagon. look great too.

how about a 1:1 scale redneck driving one? :) As long as the antennae doesn't get stuck in my flannel, we're good.

awnelson

12-29-2006, 08:06 AM

YEEEEEE HAAAAAW!!! Hey ya'll, check this out! (and there's a huge pile up in turn three)...

"Thank you baby Jesus for my two beautiful sons, Walker and Texas Ranger (we call him TR for short) and my smoking hot wife"

What would actually be real cool would be 1/18th sprint cars with staggered tires. Now that would make good use of the pool and ping pong tables going to waste out there! Imagine filling the top of the table with clay and putting a fence on the outside.

MattHiggins

12-29-2006, 08:48 AM

I love NASCAR; I guess that makes me a redneck.

4DMNYC

12-29-2006, 09:18 AM

popcorn Man that 99 car would look great on my desk.

Is that a hint? :D

Matt, I think Kevin wants the test car for himself :p

I like Nascar also, I guess I'm a NY'er redneck. giddy-up.

shadowghost1

12-29-2006, 09:51 AM

Thats sweet, I am a huge Harvick fan so one of these is going in my collection soon.

MattHiggins

12-29-2006, 09:54 AM

Is that a hint? :D

Matt, I think Kevin wants the test car for himself :p

I like Nascar also, I guess I'm a NY'er redneck. giddy-up.
Kevin has a better chance of seeing God than getting to test these cars. I called dibs back in '82.

z-man280

12-29-2006, 09:59 AM

Kevin has a better chance of seeing God than getting to test these cars. I called dibs back in '82.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! we all know he would have to replicate the big firey crash scenes with it anyway! LOL

hehehe, hi Kev :wave:

NiMo

12-29-2006, 10:01 AM

Cars look good.
Wonder if they'll make the British shores?

GRUNDIG415

12-29-2006, 11:40 AM

thanks to baby jesus

MattHiggins

12-29-2006, 11:55 AM

"I wanna thank little baby Jesus, who's sittin' in his crib watchin the Baby Einstein videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors."

GRUNDIG415

12-29-2006, 12:03 PM

hahahaha...matt,you are too cool...

KevinH

12-29-2006, 01:39 PM

hahahaha...matt,you are too cool...

Matt is cool? WHAT? :roll2:

MattHiggins

12-29-2006, 01:55 PM

Matt is cool? WHAT? :roll2:

Sorry, Kevin, but I'm just a big hairy American winning machine ... oh and I'm cool.

rccardude04

12-29-2006, 02:12 PM

I wonder if they'll offer genuine NASCAR-style features like easily tearing sheet metal, a roll of miniature 200mph duct tape, and break-apart body panels. What's the point of racing miniature NASCAR if you can't make the cars explode when they wreck? LOL
Matt... You knew mini-z's would exist back in '82? Psychic!
-Eric

TimJohnson

12-29-2006, 02:19 PM

here is a very small image of the RCP track for the MINI-Z NASCAR

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/images/rcp/K15052.jpg

suckfish

12-30-2006, 11:47 AM

very now add some banked turns .. and it time to look at double wide trailers for me..

wlfgnggtr

12-30-2006, 05:15 PM

No Number 8??? That's just wrong... Maybe the next batch... If so count me in :)

awnelson

12-30-2006, 06:11 PM

No Number 8??? That's just wrong... Maybe the next batch... If so count me in :)

I guess they only wanted to put championship winning teams out for now, maybe they will get around to Earnhardt after Tony and Jeff and Matt and Mark and Danica... oh wait, she hasn't won a race in F1 so they didn't want her in NASCAR. JK Maybe they will also do the truck so we can stop hearing about "we're gonna race the truck" and it never happening.

MattHiggins

12-31-2006, 06:50 AM

I guess they only wanted to put championship winning teams out for now, maybe they will get around to Earnhardt after Tony and Jeff and Matt and Mark and Danica... oh wait, she hasn't won a race in F1 so they didn't want her in NASCAR. JK Maybe they will also do the truck so we can stop hearing about "we're gonna race the truck" and it never happening.
Um, the 29 and 99 haven't won championships either, and Dale Jr. has 17 Cup wins to the 29's 10 and the 99's 4 wins. I'm a Junior fan, so I'd love it if they did a Bud car. I doubt they will, though. Bud and Junior can't be cheap. Oh well, that's what paint is for--I'll just make my own.

I doubt she could win in F1, but the reason Danica hasn't won in F1 is because she races Indy cars. But believe me, they'd take her in NASCAR in a heartbeat.

birdy233

12-31-2006, 09:09 AM

Um, the 29 and 99 haven't won championships either, and Dale Jr. has 17 Cup wins to the 29's 10 and the 99's 4 wins. I'm a Junior fan, so I'd love it if they did a Bud car. I doubt they will, though. Bud and Junior can't be cheap. Oh well, that's what paint is for--I'll just make my own.

I doubt she could win in F1, but the reason Danica hasn't won in F1 is because she races Indy cars. But believe me, they'd take her in NASCAR in a heartbeat.

ZING!!! :D

Prelude14WRX

12-31-2006, 12:13 PM

Where's my Toyota NAPA 55? :D No fair weather fan over here...mikey will have a good year this year :p

microrcdude

01-01-2007, 01:47 AM

Where's my Toyota NAPA 55? :D No fair weather fan over here...mikey will have a good year this year :p
Yes it will be nice to see a car thats made in america on the track, unlike the fusion, which is made in mexico.

Prelude14WRX

01-01-2007, 02:16 AM

Yes it will be nice to see a car thats made in america on the track, unlike the fusion, which is made in mexico.

lol...ya....I think it's great Toyota is coming to the Nextel Cup....they already proved themselves in the truck series.

MattHiggins

01-01-2007, 10:53 AM

LD3Furious

01-01-2007, 12:09 PM

Personally, I'm quite disgusted with the thought of Toyota havin a Cup car. Even despite the so called global economy.I have no real reason for this, just my .02, so don't waste time flaming me. All that said, I do agree with Matt's post. so I'll go sit in my little corner now and keep quiet :)

RCMTracer

01-01-2007, 12:41 PM

RCP Tracks is making a special oval track specifically for the release of this car. :driving:

I hope they're banked ovals. :)

RCMTracer

01-01-2007, 12:49 PM

I'm a diehard Cup fan, and I think it's great that Toyata is entering the field and new drivers such as Montota are racing in NASCAR. These changes adds new, interesting elements to an already entertaining race series.

No matter how good of a formula a race series has in place, there has to be change to keep in exciting. These are good times for NASCAR and its fans.

I'm with Matt, I'm all for Toyota in NASCAR. I mean they practically own the Craftsman truck series and influences from other manufactures and racing disciplines can only mean more growth in the series. However I'm unsure about how Juan Pablo Montoya will do next season, but with one F1 championship under his belt he has a chance. :)

RCMTracer

01-01-2007, 12:58 PM

I doubt she could win in F1, but the reason Danica hasn't won in F1 is because she races Indy cars. But believe me, they'd take her in NASCAR in a heartbeat.

I think Danica Patrick is over-rated. What about Katherine Legge? she deserves credit because in the Toyota Atlantic series she won three races one of them being her first. And this past season she migrated into CHAMP CAR and did really well. Danica on the other hand didn't win a single race or poles in the Toyota Atlantic series despite her having more experience.
Anyway I'm just say'in. :o

microrcdude

01-01-2007, 01:01 PM

Personally, I'm quite disgusted with the thought of Toyota havin a Cup car. Even despite the so called global economy.
I think you need facts dude. Start researching while your in your little corner.

LD3Furious

01-01-2007, 01:17 PM

What's your point?Research what? Basically, all Im saying is that I disagree with a foreign manufacturer being in the Cup series. I do understand the thought that N.A.S.C.A.R is trying to break out of the "good ole boy" image and to bring a more mainstream product to the public, I just feel that so called "American Iron" is what made the series what it is today.
As for Katherine Legge...while I do wish her the absolute best, I feel it is very important to note that she recently suffered through a horrific wreck. While she was uninjured, it is rare when a driver recovers fully from a wreck (mentally) of that magnitude to come back and be a winning driver.

The_Mini_Me

01-01-2007, 01:56 PM

You mean Mexican Iron. :P

{No nation stereotype intended. Just showing how hypocritical the above statement was by sarcasm**

LD3Furious

01-01-2007, 02:39 PM

Dude....read BOTH of my postings. I am not talking about where the product is built today. I am talking about where the manufacturers originated. Ford,Chevy, Dodge, etc...are the companies that were "American born" and a part of what made the U.S.A.

ElectricThunder

01-01-2007, 02:56 PM

Sooo.....they're turning left? Still.....turning left. And once again......more left...:D:D:D:p

Vato Loco

01-01-2007, 04:00 PM

Now I want to see a matching Mini Z Truck and trailer to haul my Mini Z nascar to the track, Now that would be the bees knees! How much room would one need for a scale sized Bristol! Short track, let's beat the fender's off these cars!

LD3Furious

01-01-2007, 04:10 PM

How much room would one need for a scale sized Bristol! Short track, let's beat the fender's off these cars!
Now that, I can definitely agree on :)

microrcdude

01-01-2007, 04:18 PM

So your mad because of where the real car is made? Correct me if im wrong(which im not) but a nascar and a showroom car share nothing but a name.

Brian Davis

01-01-2007, 06:34 PM

So your mad because of where the real car is made? Correct me if im wrong(which im not) but a nascar and a showroom car share nothing but a name.

As my dad once told me, "The only thing 'stock' about a 'stock car' is the 5-bolt lugnut pattern.." :roll2:

MattHiggins

01-01-2007, 08:16 PM

Settle down, fellas. The argument is really just a matter of opinions. To some people, and rightfully so, no matter where Toyotas are made, it's a Japanese company. Same goes for Ford. Some (not all) Fords are made in Mexico, but it's an American company. Some Toyotas are made in America, but it isn't an American company. Dodge is now really a German company. The point is that it's not 1948 anymore and a lot has changed since NASCAR held its first race.

MattHiggins

01-01-2007, 08:18 PM

Current NASCAR stock cars do share some body panels with the stock showroom cars. Personally, I couldn't care less if the new Car of Tomorrow has no shared parts of any kind with stock cars. As long as the racing stays as good as it is, I'm tuning in.

awnelson

01-01-2007, 11:59 PM

Hold on just a little longer guys. I am whittling new sticks so that we don't have to keep beating a dead horse with the same old sticks. Take it for what it is worth; NASCAR is no different than WWE in the fact that they all are characters being pushed around to generate more and more money off of rediculous fans who will squabble to the death of it over what panels are the same or which racer is the best (at cheating and not getting caught). There are some who cheated and got caught, losing their lives over it. I am interested to see what panels are shared with any of the cars that are on the road today sharing the same name as the custom sheetmetal going in circles all day (like this whole posting). The cars aren't even the same dimensions since they all have to fit into a performance envelope before they are allowed onto the track. Real cars have bracing under the panels and that is what the structure is, not the roll cage that is integral to the NASCAR race chassis.

TimJohnson

01-02-2007, 12:43 AM

The hood, rear deck lid, roof and window shapes are production. The same hood of a Monte Carlo NASCAR will be the same size and shape of a production hood. The only difference is, under the hood of a production car you have the stamped skin supports. The NASCAR hood has welded bar for skin supporting.

I think we are way of topic here guys........

note the stamped skin supports
http://www.glasstek.com/Gallery/7072montecarlo4CIHD.jpg

note the welded rod supports.
http://www.pahousegop.info/payne/nascar/gallery/under%20the%20hood%20shot.jpg

pleaseletmeon34

01-02-2007, 01:36 AM

Yes, Tim is absolutely right.
Looking forward to Daytona, not looking forward to toyota.

Back on track, I'm sure I will have one of these on my desk. :)

Psssst. Like to see a few others.

cianhanrahan

01-02-2007, 05:40 AM

I reckon we'll see loads of custom paintjobs, as fans remodel the skins to suit their own heroes.

and those wheels and tyres are going to look great on lots of other cars too!

MattHiggins

01-02-2007, 06:38 AM

NASCAR is no different than WWE in the fact that they all are characters being pushed around to generate more and more money off of rediculous fans I love that argument. I guess you could sub in F1, NFL, World Cup, etc in for NASCAR. Look, NASCAR isn't for everyone. Nothing is. But, NASCAR and the WWE are not the same. People use that NASCAR/WWE statement as a putdown. NASCAR is popular all around the country; all sorts of people like NASCAR. it isn't a bunch of dumb rednecks any more than football. I've been to plenty of NASCAR races and NFL games, and guess what? The fans all look and act the same. It's the same type of people. Further, NASCAR isn't rigged. Neither is the NBA, NFL, NCAA, etc. WWE is a scripted show. They have nothing in common.

Any way, back to these cars. Anybody have the size of that mini oval track?

NiMo

01-02-2007, 08:53 AM

I love that argument. I guess you could sub in F1, NFL, World Cup, etc in for NASCAR. Look, NASCAR isn't for everyone. Nothing is. But, NASCAR and the WWE are not the same. People use that NASCAR/WWE statement as a putdown. NASCAR is popular all around the country; all sorts of people like NASCAR. it isn't a bunch of dumb rednecks any more than football. I've been to plenty of NASCAR races and NFL games, and guess what? The fans all look and act the same. It's the same type of people. Further, NASCAR isn't rigged. Neither is the NBA, NFL, NCAA, etc. WWE is a scripted show. They have nothing in common.

Any way, back to these cars. Anybody have the size of that mini oval track?
Direct from the Kyosho America site:
K15052 - Kyosho Wide Radius Oval
Dimensions - 19 ft x 9 ft 7in.

microrcdude

01-02-2007, 05:57 PM

dacemaxx111

01-02-2007, 10:15 PM

need a tony stewart maybe all of them yes that would be great.oh boys...don't forget honda will be have cars in NASCAR in 2008.nothing like two high revving VETC 4cyl motors in a race car.music to my ears.

awnelson

01-02-2007, 11:24 PM

bigjohnson, the picture that you show for a factory hood is a fiberglass with cowl induction hood, not anything like any factory car I have seen in a while. Yes, they may be the shape but that is like saying that my pickup is the same as a similar Baja truck because they both have tires by the same manufacturer. This conversation was flawed from the start by people with facts from one side of the fence. I think that it is great that there are so many people supporting NASCAR because it is good for advertisers and it is cool that Kyosho has been able to milk yet another avenue of the mini Z lineup. It will be interesting to see how many they can actually produce due to licensing issues. Anyway, if they want another idea, why not beat the Dukes of Hazzard theme to death as well.

Akura2

01-03-2007, 12:53 AM

I'd love to see a line of British Touring cars.... the DTM and JGTC cars are cool and all.. but the BTCC cars look more like their street-going counterparts, but still look way cool. DTM and JGTC are silhouette cars, just like NASCAR cars and Drag cars posing only a fleeting resemblance to their "stock" brethren relying on decals, paint, and a few tiny pieces of sheet metal to look anything like a real car... when i look at BTCC it makes me say, "hey!.. that looks like MY car running around the track with those big wheels and spoilers..."

nothing against NASCAR, racing is racing to me and I love all of it... but the cars, though they say they are using a few pieces of stock-shaped sheet metal, are all designed to fit the same size, and shape cut out profile..using only grille and light stickers to tell the difference between them.. from the side they look identical to each other, and NOT the real thing... with that being said.. I hope they come out with their line of plain white bodies for these cars so that we can make our OWN Junior, Gordon or Dale Sr. car

or even Ricky Bobby...

**Edit: The side and rear windows are slightly different on different cars...

awnelson

01-03-2007, 08:31 AM

If they came out with a plain car, they would only need one body and stickers for the lights and grills (to change brands).

cnroman

01-03-2007, 09:18 AM

Just like NASCAR this discussion is goin' in circles.

MattHiggins

01-03-2007, 12:01 PM

If they came out with a plain car, they would only need one body and stickers for the lights and grills (to change brands).That isn't true, but who cares?

In 1948, stock cars were stock cars--hence the name. Over the years, many changes have taken place to achieve much improved safety and better racing. The stock car has evolved; it had to. What we call stock cars are a far cry from what we drive on the streets. So what?! My mom's Taurus doesn't go 190+MPH, so I'm not shocked when they pop the hood and the car looks nothing like hers. Watching 43 real Taurus' cruise around Daytona at 85MPH wouldn't thrill me. Yet, I'm usually on my feet for the last 20 laps when NASCAR's stock cars run at Daytona. Bottom line: no, stock cars are not actually stock cars any more, and nobody really cares.

NASCAR, like every other sport, isn't for everyone. I'll watch almost any sort of racing, but I currently like NASCAR the best. Years ago, I loved Indy cars and F1--when it was on. I rarely got to see an F1 race before cable TV. Basically, if you like NASCAR, great. If you don't, there's plenty else to watch.

Smib

01-03-2007, 12:14 PM

Indubadibly.

ElectricThunder

01-03-2007, 12:40 PM

That isn't true, but who cares?

In 1948, stock cars were stock cars--hence the name. Over the years, many changes have taken place to achieve much improved safety and better racing. The stock car has evolved; it had to. What we call stock cars are a far cry from what we drive on the streets. So what?! My mom's Taurus doesn't go 190+MPH, so I'm not shocked when they pop the hood and the car looks nothing like hers. Watching 43 real Taurus' cruise around Daytona at 85MPH wouldn't thrill me. Yet, I'm usually on my feet for the last 20 laps when NASCAR's stock cars run at Daytona. Bottom line: no, stock cars are not actually stock cars any more, and nobody really cares.

NASCAR, like every other sport, isn't for everyone. I'll watch almost any sort of racing, but I currently like NASCAR the best. Years ago, I loved Indy cars and F1--when it was on. I rarely got to see an F1 race before cable TV. Basically, if you like NASCAR, great. If you don't, there's plenty else to watch.

They need to go back to when they ran a real car with a high performance factory engine like the "Road Runner" or the Torino King Cobra. Best part, you could buy those cars with similar engines back then, if not detuned versions of the actual track engines. Just gut a freakin' SRT-8 Charger, and go to town. Sheet metal shells are just no fun IMO.

MattHiggins

01-03-2007, 12:54 PM

They need to go back to when they ran a real car with a high performance factory engine like the "Road Runner" or the Torino King Cobra. Best part, you could buy those cars with similar engines back then, if not detuned versions of the actual track engines. Just gut a freakin' SRT-8 Charger, and go to town. Sheet metal shells are just no fun IMO.
I hear ya, man, but by the time they do everything to the SRT-8 to make it safe enough to race, you'd basically have a NASCAR stock car that wouldn't last 10 laps. The axles, brakes, cooling, electrical systemetc would all fail. NASCAR has a pretty good formula, but no matter what they do, it won't appeal to everyone.

z-man280

01-03-2007, 01:04 PM

personally, i would like to see nascar jump on the technology bandwagon..still using desings from the 50's for engines? The pushrod v-8 has been surpasses in horsepower and equalled in reliability by much smaller engines. You can only tweek a holley carb so much.

my take? lets see some things taken from the guys across the pond....you want to run that Ford Fusion on the track? fine, you go out there wit the most you can wring out of your v-6 front drive car. Monte carlo? you hit the track with v-8, but still front drive. Mopar? rear drive hemi,....not much more to say there.

Toyota had to start from scratch on making a 2 valve. push rod, carb'd v-8 to compete with. They have just as much right as anyone else on that track...how many companies make a carb'd engine anymore? NONE! so, if they are willing to go 50 years backwards to design an engine, let them run.

Look overseas, touring car racing, you win, you have to ADD weight to your car for the next race! NOW THAT IS TOUGH! These guys pull as much power out of the 2.0 litre cars as the v-8's can, why?,they HAVE to! because that is what comes in the PRODUCTION car! platforms stay consistant, and i like that. Run what ya brung boys!

and yeah, there are templets to fit hood/roof/trunk design. the "greenhouse" must stay the same as the production model

ElectricThunder

01-03-2007, 01:04 PM

I hear ya, man, but by the time they do everything to the SRT-8 to make it safe enough to race, you'd basically have a NASCAR stock car that wouldn't last 10 laps. The axles, brakes, cooling, electrical systemetc would all fail. NASCAR has a pretty good formula, but no matter what they do, it won't appeal to everyone.
Well, I meant the gutting of the SRT-8 figuratively sorta (that'd be a lot of wasted money by taking everything out... :huh: ). They'd need to do an in house re-design by the SRT division to get a track ready car done (like how Chevy has their race version of the CTS-V, although it's not for NASCAR, but it still looks like a production car with a serious body kit). Obviously some things can't be changed, such as safety standards (which limit design of the cars), so you can't take your 4 door charger with a honkin' 425hp under hood and go race; but it sure would be cool.

Ed237

01-03-2007, 01:11 PM

I hate to disagree and continue to move this thread further away from its topic, but the current tube frame cars are the way to go. Considering they all have the same tires, shocks, gears and HP, tube frame construction is a cost effective way for each team to customize a chassis that works for their driver(s) and create real differences in the way each car performs. A lot more engineering goes into them than people realize. The frames are works of art in and of themselves.

I just wished they looked more like the latest Trans Am Cars (Jaguars, Corvettes, Vipers) than jelly beans with sticker on them.

No matter what they look like however, NASCAR is the best form of autoracing for the fans right now. There is real racing for every position on the track with lots of passes and more than 3 drivers are capable of winning a race.

MattHiggins

01-03-2007, 02:16 PM

In my opinion, going off topic a bit is fine when the conversation is like the above--as in opinions being shared in a respectful manner.

I can't wait to see some detailed out Mini-Z stock cars. Not only custom paintjobs but full interiors, race damage like tire rubs, etc.

pleaseletmeon34

01-03-2007, 02:52 PM

Yea man, bring on the clear bodies

HaCo

01-04-2007, 02:49 PM

I hope these MiniZ Nascar series will bring a lot of new members to my favorite scale!!

microrcdude

01-04-2007, 09:28 PM

im sure they will help bring people to the hobby.

Tamiya4ever

01-09-2007, 09:55 AM