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evaderstman
09-06-2006, 09:48 PM
Hey guys I need some help finding the right brush to buy. I would like something that will last me for a long time, and definatly want an iwata brush. Anyway i have narrowed it down to the following, but don't really know the differances between them. Anyway let me know, and if you know of a better price i would really appreciate it. Thanks for all the help and for putting up with another one of these threads.

Eclipse HP-CS-
http://coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ECL4500
Revolution HP-CR-
http://coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R4500
High Performance HP-C Plus-
http://coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=H4001
Product ID: H4100
Hi-Line HP-CH-
http://coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=H4100

MaxxThrasher
09-06-2006, 10:22 PM
The HP-CH and C Plus are virtually the same with the exception of the MAC valve which lets you adjust the air pressure right at the brush. Some painters find this a convenience.
The CR has a .5 needle and the CS has a .35.
I'd go with the CS because the needle size will allow you more versatility and it's cheaper then the CH and C Plus which needle size are both .3. Nice for detail, but can be a pain with waterborne paints.

evaderstman
09-06-2006, 10:43 PM
Cool thanks a lot. I usually paint with my regulator/moisture trap right next to me so the MAC vavle is pretty usless. Anyway i will look more closly at the cs and the c-plus. One of the biggest things i am lookinf for is more control with smaller spray lines like in shadings and free hand pin stripes. Also i just check my one brush which is a old thayer and chandler and it has a .3mm needle which i have never been able to spray anything other than straight thinner.

MaxxThrasher
09-06-2006, 10:55 PM
The .3 needles will definately give you a bit more fine spray pattern and you can spray waterborne paints through them, IF you reduce them sufficiently. Otherwise you'll have problems.
Break that T&C down and give it a good cleaning and I'll bet you'll have it spraying just fine again. Or the problem could be the paint your spraying is too thick for the fine needle.
If you get that working again, you can add the CS to your arsenal and there won't be anything you can't achieve.

evaderstman
09-06-2006, 11:05 PM
Well there is plenty i can't achieve, but it won't be an airbrush issue that is for sure.

MaxxThrasher
09-06-2006, 11:19 PM
LOL, well there's plenty to learn at www.cfxpaintworks.com . ;)

Farwar
09-07-2006, 03:53 PM
My vote would be the Eclipse CS. You will be able to spray detail and spray pearls and metallics through it. The HP-C+ can still spray metallics but it has a hard time doing it. If you want detail, HP-C+. If you want versatility, Eclipse CS.

evaderstman
09-07-2006, 08:47 PM
Cool i will probably pick up the cs than because i really am looking for a versatile brush right now to learn on as right now i am using a old no name brush that pretty much suchs, and even though i can't paint very well at all it won't keep up with me.

evaderstman
09-20-2006, 08:47 PM
Just got the hp-cs in the mail today, and it rocks! The control is awsome, and the gravity feed is such much more user friendly than siphon. I will get some pics up when i get my camera back, but right now it is with my mom on vacation. Anyway i am really glad i went with this brush and hope i can lay down some truely cool paint schemes. So far all i have done is try the carbon fiber look with shelf liner and it is really cool and easy to do I just have to work on getting the just right amount of paint spraying. Anyway thanks for the advice, and if you have any tips for the brush please let me know.