Trinity NEXT nitro mini truggy

[PeterV]

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NEXT is RC’s first ready to run 1/16th Nitro Truggy designed on a racing platform for outstanding on or off-road performance. NEXT’s low center of gravity, wide track and shock towermounted rear wing provides stability and traction to hook up it’s Drake Platinum Series .095 engine, the biggest displacement engine found in the smaller scale nitro vehicles.

NEXT is designed to out perform all other mini nitro vehicles in handling, horsepower and tunability. Make sure you are NEXT.

[RC10racer89]

Nitro
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Truggy

It looks like a solid platform, and that .095 engine should provide plenty of scoot. The second largest I've heard of has been the .09 Siro in the Kyosho mini nitro buggy. Either way its an huge amount of power for such a small platform, and it looks like a blast. Hopefully more mini nitro truggies will follow. I think X-ray already has one, but I wonder which one will be next...(doh couldn't resist :o )

[TheSnick]

And of course, here is the NEXT vehicle that Trinity has decided to rebadge.

[BIGBADBOWTIE]

Looks good.... on wonder if price will be inline with the others.

[4DMNYC]

Looks ok. A little sloppy maybe. I'd rather have an allloy tuned pipe instead of the alloy lower arms. I'm sure it's fun to drive though. I've been waiting for a mini nitro truggy. So I guess it's worth a closer look. I'm curious as to what the bigger names in rc are going to put out as far as mini's are concerned. I'd like to see what OFNA, HPI, Traxxas and Associated will be offering. It's only a matter of time now.

[PeterV]

I just deleted a few pointless posts here. Feel free to not like any product you see here in "Hot News and New Stuff," but critiques of the manufacturer that have nothing to with the features/benefits/price/your experience with the product will be deleted.

[BIGBADBOWTIE]

Thanks for the cleanup....

Im still not liking the air filter on these little trucks. Maybe its a clearance issue.

[PeterV]

And just so you don't think I'm "Mr. Trinity," I'll tell you that the exposed transmission gears really should have some kind of shielding. A full tranny case would be nice, but even a simple lexan shield would be a help.

[4DMNYC]

I just realized that Picco .8Tcc would prolly drop right in to this truggy. Looks like a direct fit.

[BIGBADBOWTIE]

And just so you don't think I'm "Mr. Trinity," I'll tell you that the exposed transmission gears really should have some kind of shielding. A full tranny case would be nice, but even a simple lexan shield would be a help.


I agree. Im seeing small pebbles getting in there a reeking havoc on the gears.

Small pieces of velcro and left over body trimmings would make for a easy fix.

[PeterV]

Yep, should drop right in.

[JakeE]

Appears to share some DNA with the Kyosho Mini Inferno / ST.

[new-guy]

Looking at the pictures of the chasis, it looks just like the IRC Vulcan... I own one so I can recognise the many many similarities.
If it is the same then it will probably come with the lexan gear cover as per the Vulcan.

PeterV, any idea why there are like 3 manufacturers using the same components and chasis design for these minis???
Any idea if RCCA will do a shootout between Vulcan, Chaos, and NB16??

[Philster]

I never understand the 'hater' posts when a new product comes out. More products, more choices...more everything: It's good for the hobby. If a bad product comes out and flounders, the other mfgrs respond by making sure they don't market a turkey next time.

I like the alum arms, even though that goes against what I believe in. At some point, plastic isn't the best option when you get that small but with a need for tough/light. Interesting decision it is.

[new-guy]

I never understand the 'hater' posts when a new product comes out. More products, more choices...more everything: It's good for the hobby. If a bad product comes out and flounders, the other mfgrs respond by making sure they don't market a turkey next time.

Not to divert the thread too much from topic, I agree with you. In my case if this becomes popular it is good for me. Seeing as it is extremely similar to my vulcan it means I have a second source for parts and upgrades. What works for one will probably fit the other. I guess some people just like being heard ....

Back on topic, I like that more known manufacturers are entering the mini nitro scene. This truggy should do well.

[savageP3]

looks OK, alot like the xray truck. now i don't buy trinity products but to those of you who like them thats up to you. The intention of my post was to say that this, while being the first rtr truggy out, IMO will not be able to compete with converted kyosho 09's. I realize they are barely out but its based on a proven platform. for my money thats the mini-truggy i'd buy. and to philster-more products are good for the hobby, but trinity, IMO is not. they are (were) trying to hold back new technology because they were behind the ball so they attacked an innocent sanctioning body. Peter-if this post needs to be edited/deleted please LMK or do so as I don't want to get banned.

LOL, Sav, I'm not ban-happy or suggesting you can't express a "negative" opinion. What we don't want are people with agendas posting pointless tirades. "I think the Thunder Nub's arms look thin, not sure how they'll hold up" is a perfectly legit opinion. "Another turd from Thunder Nub, all their stuff is crap," is just useless fodder for deletion. --Pete

[Akura2]

Anybody seen the body yet?

edit:... found it

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/7025/wesitenextcomp04ib4.jpg

[Holeshot101]

Do you say anything posotive Savage? Everytime you post something it is negative.

Any way, this looks like a solid mini truggy, and could be the first Trinity truck that will last a while.

[savageP3]

holeshot-if you want to personally attack me at least be mature enough to take it to PM's. If you had been here long enough you would know that I am helpful a lot of the time, even if not everyone agrees with my positions. Anyway back on topic the body is kinda goofy looking with that wing combo. And pete-I know you're not ban happy lol. I just didn't want my post to be taken the wrong way after you already deleted some posts.

[4DMNYC]

I actualy like the paint sceme. The rims are nice too. I think if the body was sitting lower it'd prolly look less goofy.

[critterracing]

sorry Peter just speaking from experience.

later
Aldo

[DarkSavage]

looks decent but the body looks kinda odd. i want people to make the mini nitro revo that would be insane

[TheSnick]

I dont think my post was pointless. I woudl like to point out a disturbing trend with Trinity. Rebadging products that are already out by less than stellar manufacturers, and charging a premium for them. The Nitro Spyder was a Flying Point which might as well be Duratrax, the nitro starter kit was all over ebay under Smartech for half the price, and now the IRC buggy is rebadged Trinity with the Picco engine hiding in there. Oh yeah, speaking of engines, what about the Toki engines that DRAKE signed, now he is signing Picco engines and Trinity is asking almost $100 more than the Picco P3 .28 and the Picco P7R engines the Platinum series are based on.

Peter, if its not acceptable to point out the inferior products that Trinity has decided to lay its namesake on (except the overpriced Picco engines, those are nice), then what is this forum for?

Its not negative to post about how bad the Toki engines and the Nitro Spyder were/are, if we deny those facts we are denying reality :D

[PeterV]

Snick, what do any of your opinions above have to do specifically with the NEXT? That's why I deleted them--it gets the forum needlessly off topic. If someone posts, "I bought the (product in question), I didn't like it because of X," they'll never hear a peep from me. But the whole "I know all the behind the scenes info, I know what's good and what isn't" routine gets tiresome very quickly. We all know that many RC products are sold under different names. That doesn't make the product bad, or the company selling it bad, by default. Nor does a poor-performing product elsewhere in a brand's line mean any other product must also be bad.

Again---let's concentrate on the product at hand please.

[Adanmtxt1]

And just so you don't think I'm "Mr. Trinity," I'll tell you that the exposed transmission gears really should have some kind of shielding. A full tranny case would be nice, but even a simple lexan shield would be a help.

That's the reason I usually don't run my Micro RS4: debris makes it difficult to run as there are no prepped areas to run on :-(.

This NEXT looks hot.... even I want one!!!! Looks cute but it looks ready for a beating and some good speed runs. There should be a class for running nitro off road and on-road minis, dont you guys think?

In any event, props to Trinity.

[5 Pack]

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Im still not liking the air filter on these little trucks. Maybe its a clearance issue.

Given my first hand experience with Sportwerks Chaos (and it's tight spaces) I believe that is a pretty safe bet.


I actualy like the paint sceme. The rims are nice too. I think if the body was sitting lower it'd prolly look less goofy.

I'm not seeing how you can lower the body without making alot of extra holes to resolve clearance issues.

What I want to know is why... why are they putting the antenna right in line with the pull start?? Same quirk with the Chaos... But it does look like the switch can be reached through the body hole for the pull start.

Also, I see another potential problem. The fuel line runs over the steering link. With my Chaos the same thing actually causes the throttle/brake linkage to bind with the body on. There does look to be a bit more room under the body in this area though.

The sway bars are a nice touch for the racing scene, but with “heavy lug” off road tires…???? Targeting two audiences I see…

[PeterV]

...or, it might just work better with sway bars, regardless of tires...or maybe BECAUSE of those tires! Larger tires = higher CG = more prone to traction roll, so the 'bars might help the NEXT stay flat to prevent rollovers. Armchair engineering is so much better than actually driving it, don't you think? (I'm making fun of myself, not you 5 Pack!) :D

[5 Pack]

...or, it might just work better with sway bars, regardless of tires...or maybe BECAUSE of those tires! Larger tires = higher CG = more prone to traction roll, so the 'bars might help the NEXT stay flat to prevent rollovers. Armchair engineering is so much better than actually driving it, don't you think? (I'm making fun of myself, not you 5 Pack!) :D

You could most definitely be right. No pretending to be an expert here... a simple observation that I've seen a few 'race-ready' rides with mini-pin or similar such treads on 'em. I guess us humble 'civilian' tire smokers will have to wait for you fortunate few executive editor types to get "hands-on" before the general populace.

Upon continuing inspection (at least from what I can see in the pics) those diff housings look suspiciously… errr or is that surprisingly like the ones on the Chaos. Hey maybe I can adapt the swaybars! I don’t see any adjustability for rear toe, which (to me looks like it’s toed in a bit). Bit I think I can make out that the steering links are turnbuckles. The multiple upper shock mounts and adjustable camber links are slick little touches that will make for a lot of adjustment.



I wonder which has more adjustability… The Kyosho 09 or the NEXT?

[Racing t]

I think it will be an awesome bashing truck, can wait to own one, anty body knows the top speed of this thing?

[The_Mini_Me]

OT: I just want to point oout the xray nt18t discussed earlier in this thread is 1/18th. This is 1/16th. They aren't the same scale and engine size. It would be like running a rc10gt2 against a Inferno truggy.

[rc411]

Well, now we know trinity stuck with acme vehicles. Acme kinda started mini nitro's, gotta give them credit. I just wish trinity would import MORE of acme's stuff. Tspec was good, but Trinity just doesn't support anything longer than a year. They drop it like a bad habit.

[new-guy]

OT: I just want to point oout the xray nt18t discussed earlier in this thread is 1/18th. This is 1/16th. They aren't the same scale and engine size. It would be like running a rc10gt2 against a Inferno truggy.
If you compare xrays minis with ACME/IRC/CHAOS, you are correct on the scale. However, the engine is the same one. It is a Toki .05

[RespirologyRC]

I love this thing looks but once you start getting away from 1/18th scale i really don't think it's fair to compare it to other micros. I could see one of these with a custom painted Micro body done by no other than yours truely :) My only gripe about these nitro micros are the costs. I hope this isn't as exspensive as the xray Micro NItro (330.00), for that kind of money you could buy a decently used savage, maxx, buggy, or other things.

[new-guy]

I agree with you on the cost issue. I bit the bullet and bought the IRC Vulcan. In hindsight, the cost is on the high side.

That being said, the parts are cheaper. When I compare parts for my vulcan to parts for my MT2 or my GT, there is a difference. It makes it a little easier to bash and not worry about emptying the bank to repair!!

[T/Losi]

Has anyone on here got one yet?

Cheers

[suckfish]

Any price on this yet? it looks pretty cool

[T/Losi]

$229 RTR - Can buy at teamtrinity.com or towerhobbies.com

Cheers

[T/Losi]

Does anyone know what type of run time you would get out of them?

Cheers

[nitro_newbie]

so who has gotten this??? this is cool i want to get a diffrent nitro but i want something convient like a electric and this fits the bill small nitro and i can buy another mini if i wanted!!! so what are the issues with this i saw that they had metal gear diffs as an option so i was wondering what is the reliability with the plastic gears with the nitro power? and how are these tires attached? hexs like the MLST or the pins like the rc18t? thanks alot to any responses also what are run times and any thing special things to buy?? liek glow plugs or the heaters? thanx again
nitro_newbie

[hyperstang]

Actually was thinking about getting this or the Kyosho Inferno 09. But it's basically a nitro truck with all the same things needed for gas trucks. You will need the igniter and a starter box. I think this one comes with a pull start, but I hate those. I would rather use a starter box.

Saw a quick review on this bad boy in RCCA but it wasn't in depth because of the short time they had with the truck. But if you want a competitive mini nitro, go with the Xray MT or the Kyosho Inferno 09.

I think I might go Kyosho, but right now I am into my Electric Monster truck phase, so no money right now. If anyone does get one, let us know and post some pics..

Race on!!!

[nitro_newbie]

well i just want something to mess around and replace my smaxx no planning to race if i do ill use my 18t and if i get this i can get the MLST with the metal diffs and a new brushless motor or keep the brushless i have and go lipo. well i could get lots of with what i have left! rite know i have the stuff in my cart but i dont know if i should get it now or wait this is what im gettingwhen i buy it
metal gear diff assembled F/R and some spurs and i carrying bag and maybe the 2 speed too. it would be like 280 with shipping using the code for 30 off on tower. so it seems like a good deal. what are the speed of this truck i want it to go faster than my 18mt which goes around 30ish.

[rctrx]

it goes around 28 out of the box. i got one yesterday and it was f***ed up from the factory, the carb was cracked and ripped on the bottom and the slide part was broke. i havent had time to deal with it yet, but im going back to the hobby shop tomorow to talk to the guy about sending it back to trinity.

[vroom vroom]

This truggy looks so sweet, I think im going to get one one I start to here positive things from the people who bought them.

[Demon-TC3]

NOT convinced, trinitys part support for their cars is terrible, have had two cars and have sold two cars...one within a montha nd the other within 2 months (Nitro Spyder and Micro Spyder)...i just dont trust trinity vehichles...

For the same price why dont you just get a VTX MST-1 truggy? its ALL alluminum with 2 speed 1/16 truggy / buggy (both models) and parts are actually available at good prices....

As for the brand name not being too popular...this thing has a brand name but they are still terrible...VTX i have heard very good things about so give em a lookin at!

[t9dragon]

Actually was thinking about getting this or the Kyosho Inferno 09. But it's basically a nitro truck with all the same things needed for gas trucks. You will need the igniter and a starter box. I think this one comes with a pull start, but I hate those. I would rather use a starter box.

Saw a quick review on this bad boy in RCCA but it wasn't in depth because of the short time they had with the truck. But if you want a competitive mini nitro, go with the Xray MT or the Kyosho Inferno 09.

I think I might go Kyosho, but right now I am into my Electric Monster truck phase, so no money right now. If anyone does get one, let us know and post some pics..

Race on!!!

In my opinion.................... :teacher:

You would be better of getting the 09. Most of the parts from the Inferno & Inferno ST fit the 09, so you have a wide selection of aluminum parts.

[hyperstang]

Yeah I agree...

I had a trinity itsy bitsy spyder when it first came out. Broke parts left and right and it really wasn't all that good in handling. Then I got a RC18T and I was all good. I raced it in competition at our local off road track,didn't do very well...

I want to get the Kyosho 09, gotta wait for tax returns I guess...

[Demon-TC3]

well i have always been a huge fan of Kyosho as they really do have good parts support and the quality of the cars really are excellent!

BUT just to let you guys kno that VTX have a 1/16 all alluminum buggy and truggy with 2 speed on the market for $240.00...thats RTR with 2 speed, 0.6 engine and more aluminum than you can shake a stick at! (includes ally pipe and all that!)

give it a looking at guys seriously! Parts are damn cheap (looked over price list) and plentifull directly from VTX...oh and customer service is excellent.

[t9dragon]

Do you have a link?

All aluminum parts isn't what it's cracked up to be. You can do serious damage to your rig if there isn't a point for it to give.

[Demon-TC3]

Normally i would agree with larger scale vehichles but with the Mst-1 i dont think it had the momentum or mass to really get through the ally...that and the spares are plentifull at good prices...



Still if your intrested hobbydepot stock them as well as the parts but i will post some pics:
http://www.myhobbydepot.com/catalog/gallery/vtx-mst1/vtx-mst1_ga6.jpg
http://www.myhobbydepot.com/catalog/gallery/vtx-mst1/vtx-mst1_ga4.jpg

If your intrested drop me a PM or go to Hobby Depot (http://www.myhobbydepot.com)

[t9dragon]

Hit me up on MSN screen name is t9dragon

[nitro_newbie]

In my opinion.................... :teacher:

You would be better of getting the 09. Most of the parts from the Inferno & Inferno ST fit the 09, so you have a wide selection of aluminum parts.
well i wouldnt mind getting that but tower doesnt have parts or sells any kyosho item period and i would like to be able to pick stuff up at my lhs but i dont think they carry kyosho. so any speed test done for .09 kyosho>?

[t9dragon]

well i wouldnt mind getting that but tower doesnt have parts or sells any kyosho item period and i would like to be able to pick stuff up at my lhs but i dont think they carry kyosho. so any speed test done for .09 kyosho>?

That is very true about the parts for the 09. But there are quite a few parts and upgrades from the Mini Inferno that will work on the 09. My guess on the speed is it is around 25mph, but that is just a guess.

[nitro_newbie]

well tower doesnt sell anything and hobby people (lhs) doesnt have anything so i guess i can resort to getting stuff at ultimate hobies online or somthing but thanx

[TruggyTimmie777]

its not a .095 cubic in motor its .07ci its .095 cc i know i bought a "draked" enging for my irc vulcan

[Georgerm]

looking to get this truck it would be my first nitro so would this be a good truck to get has to be a mini because i do not have alot of room to run it.