Why Tamiya plugs?

[mr_dove]

Everyone on these boards seems to agree that Dean's connectors are far superior to the Tamiya connectors. I only run a Losi XXX-T and my tamiya connector melted after 4 or 5 runs.

So, if they are so inferior, why do so many RC products come with Tamiya connectors. I mean cars, batteries, chargers. They all come with Tamiya unless they are specifically marketed to racers.

[ElectricThunder]

They're super cheap, and they're pretty much the industry norm for most stock batteries and ESCs (unless it's a competition ESC/battery).

[Prelude14WRX]

Tamiya plugs are probably must cheaper to put on their products...and they work just fine if you are bashing with a bone stock car or truck. But, Deans are the way to go ;)

[P90Puma]

Everyone on these boards seems to agree that Dean's connectors are far superior to the Tamiya connectors. I only run a Losi XXX-T and my tamiya connector melted after 4 or 5 runs.

So, if they are so inferior, why do so many RC products come with Tamiya connectors. I mean cars, batteries, chargers. They all come with Tamiya unless they are specifically marketed to racers.


Its next to impossible to short the connectors during transit. Thats why.

[B4 Stealth]

that shouldnt be a problem unless u attach the male end to the battery but tamiyas are much easier to install and cheaper. ever tried soldering a deans plug? fairly challenging for some one new at solering (firsthand there LOL)

but with tamiya it is just snip-strip-clip and the plugs are installed.

That IMO is why everything comes with tamiyas or no plugs at all.

[ElectricThunder]

but with tamiya it is just snip-strip-clip and the plugs are installed.

Powerpoles are the same way (or you can solder them). :p

Tip o' the day: Use vise grips or a third hand tool to solder deans up....makes things about 100 times easier.:D

[rocknbil]

Why do so many RC products come with Tamiya connectors.

It boils down to reducing costs, universal application, and allowing an aftermarket to flourish.

The really interesting question here is WHY CAN'T WE THROW THESE THINGS AWAY? First thing I do to a pack or ESC or whatever is cut the Tamiyas off, hover them over the garbage can for a second, then into my toolbox they go! I've got a bazillion of them and can't bring myself to throw them away. What is UP with that?

[botmund]

... First thing I do to a pack or ESC or whatever is cut the Tamiyas off, hover them over the garbage can for a second, then into my toolbox they go! I've got a bazillion of them and can't bring myself to throw them away. What is UP with that?

*hahaha* its the hunter-gatherer instinct that force you to save them... I also have some standard stuff in my sparebox. Won't prolly never use it.

I agree that for someone never soldered before the deans might be a tad difficult. I've used them from start almost. I find them very good. The Tamiya plugs are quite bulky and cheap looking.

:)

[Jayboy]

i wish i could have deans plugs but i dont have the equipment to solder them on and i dont know anyone who can...the tamiya connectors have been alright with me so far though!
...but you guys are getting me worried!

[Neon_Dave]

Jayboy, in relation to your other thread: if you plan on getting a modified motor (10-12T) you WILL have to switch, or else the tamiya's will eventually turn into swiss cheese.

A soldering iron is inexpensive, you can get one at a local electronics store that will do the job for around $10. Other stuff, such as solder, is another $5-10.

-Dave :)

[Jayboy]

thanks for the heads up buddy!
appreciate it!

i dont think my parents will trust me with a soldering iron though (im only 15) lol!

[mt threat]

I tried to solder Dean's plugs once and got so frustrated, I threw the mis-aligned, molten red glob away. I went with PowerPoles and haven't looked back. These things are very slick. Easy to connect and disconnect, easy to put together without needing to solder, and also difficult to accidently short the disconnected battery lead.

[Jayboy]

powerpoles???
can they handle the power as well as deans?

[mt threat]

powerpoles???
can they handle the power as well as deans?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD176&P=7

My son runs a XXX-T with a 12 turn Revolution V2, DuraTraxx 12T modified ESC and GP3300 batteries and the powerpoles hold up just fine. We also use them for the motor-to-ESC connections.

You do need sort of a special crimping tool, but I found one at Home Depot that works for like $8.00.

You can learn more than you'd ever want to know about them here: http://home.comcast.net/~buck0/app.htm

[Jayboy]

dont sound too bad...

[Secretsg]

Cheap, doesn't short out. The real name for them are JST Connectors. They were around long before Tamiya made them popular in RC.

[Jayboy]

ok...if iwas to put deans connectors on my car, where should they go?

[Neon_Dave]

You would put them between the batteries and the ESC - male on the ESC side, and female on the Batteries (to reduce the chance of short circuits)

You could put them between the motor and ESC as well, but it's not necessary though ;)

-Dave :)

[Jayboy]

but then how would i charge my battery?
my charger has the tamiya plug style on it.

[mt threat]

You change the charger lead to a Dean's.

[Jayboy]

seriously!?!?...
man, that sucks.

[ambiotter]

Lol, your "only" 15? Soldering is the sort of thing 11 year olds do in school... (well, over here anyway, no kidding)

[ElectricThunder]

seriously!?!?...
man, that sucks.
It's not as bad as it seems. Also, don't get motor cleaner type stuff on the power pole housings. It'll make them brittle, which means they'll break! :eek:

[mt threat]

seriously!?!?...
man, that sucks.

Well, I suppose you could make a Tamiya to Dean's adaptor that you could plug into the Tamiya end of the charger lead, but why bother? If your batteries all get changed over to Dean's, then there is really no point in keeping the Tamiya plug on the charger, unless your friends need to use your charger also and keep Tamiyas on their cars.....

Tamiyas are really worth getting rid of. Whether you go with Dean's or Powerpoles, the little work involved is worth it. I had to do it out of necessity when one of my Tamiya plugs melted and wouldn't make a connection anymore. I could have just put another Tamiya on, but figured what's the point? It took a lot of work to make the transition, because we have six battery packs, two cars, and the charger, but I have no regrets.

[Jayboy]

thanks guys

Lol, your "only" 15? Soldering is the sort of thing 11 year olds do in school... (well, over here anyway, no kidding)
nope. i never done it in my life...i never even knew what a soldering iron looks like till a few days ago!

[B4 Stealth]

thanks guys


nope. i never done it in my life...i never even knew what a soldering iron looks like till a few days ago!
You need to Stay in more! LOL :D

[dhutch]

As has been said, im simply down to cost easy of fitting, and the fact that most RTR run stuff comes with them, so its sort of a vicous circle, everyone does the same to match.

I use powerpoles, there great.



Daniel

[botmund]

Hope this (http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=223908) helps those that want to swith to Deans but don't know soldering.