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TamiyaTT-01
06-02-2006, 02:39 PM
My older brother just got me a 19 turn trinity for my 14th birthday for my tt-o1, but I need a esc, my brother said that somewhere he saw that the lowest turn you can use on a manuel speed controller was a 19t, is this true? I'm going to get an esc to be safe and get the benefits, any suggestions for under 40 0r 50 bucks.
Aslo i have some questions on the motor, I'm rather new. Is there some diagram to show me or give me any information about where and how to check if the com and brushes are still good.(Also what they look like, sadly :) And is there any way i can know or figure out wich wires to hook up where on the motor because since it was from ebay it didn't have a diagram or anything that says wich post is positive or negative, guess if I had to I could use tial and error and figure it out because there's a fifty percent chance i'll get it right anyway.
Any help is gradly appreciated.
Thanks
twism86
06-02-2006, 04:59 PM
Lrp has good esc's. The ipc sport is about 50 and goes down to 14 turn motors. This doesnt have reverse tho so if your bashing that could be useful. There Ai automatic esc's have reverse but im not sure where to buy them or the price, ive only really looked on tower.
highroller
06-03-2006, 02:02 AM
The are many brands of esc's biggest thing in selecting if the process of elimination. How much you are willing to spend for the esc with features and functions you want. Look at LRP/Quantum sold by Associated/Reedy, Novak, Tekin (has one budget model), Airtronics, Futaba, Duratrax etc. Many are carried by LHS or two online hobbies site are Stormer Hobbies and Tower Hobbies.
Visit some sites like Trinity, Associated that have pictures of motors and information pretaining to the parts of motors, there's a nice article on Associated's site either found on front page or under the Reedy Motors link entitled Selecting Your Next Motor - in most cases you need PDF. Competition X website (www.competitionx.com) has some information on motors with pictures, some links may not be updated. There have been articles posted on this site as well that show in detail the parts of motors - you may need to search to find it. All motors have a Positive and Negative terminal the Positive is wear you attach the red or orange motor wire and usually has a + to indicate it. With some Trinity motors there is a board (SMD capacitors) attached to endbell that has a + on one side on, other motors had the + and - molded into the endbell for each brush terminal.
After a learning curve, getting as much help as you can from people that know and reading you'll get an idea of when things aren't right. Sometimes how the motor runs might indicate something isn't right - or it might have to be disassembled and visuallly inspected. Color of commutator, brushes and wire on armature should alway be a copper color, and discoloration can be an indication of wear, overgearing or stress put on motor the color can change from a tarnished color, to a blackish -blue, in extreme instances brushes may turn a silverish gray. As a brush wears it losses the ability to conduct current, as it's length decreases the spring that provide tension cannot do this and in some instances motor will gradually slow down or stop running - but start again after pushing or brushes had time to cool many times this can be confused with a battery or esc problem.
TamiyaTT-01
06-03-2006, 08:19 AM
Thanks for all the info. What about the novak xrs reversible sport esc? It's only around 50 bucks so its within my budget and i heard good things about it and i know novak is a reliable name. The max turn is 15 turns so i'm within the limit. What do you think?
highroller
06-03-2006, 08:41 AM
One thing I do not do here is recommend or suggest products. You can get into too many areas that really should be left up the each individual.
I listed many of the brands, there are a few more that can be researched, most are listed online under manufacturer some online hobby shops (where you can also compare prices) and even download manuals - which will give you some idea of how easy or simple the esc will be to setup and use.
What I do suggest is to keep in mind your future needs, will you want to use a hotter motor lesser turns than what you are planning to use today or would you someday like to try racing on a club level so buying the least expensive item may limit you use in the future,
TamiyaTT-01
06-03-2006, 11:09 PM
Thanks for all the help, but i had a question about something that use can use all the way down to a minimum of 19t on a manuel speed controller without hurting anything. Is that right, i kinda want to know so i no whether or not i can safely run it before my esc comes in.
Thanks
highroller
06-04-2006, 09:04 AM
In the early days that's all that were available, some were called racing that were a little sturdier than the regular kit mechanical speed controls. From some I've seen today could work. I would try it, running for a couple minutes to see how hot things are getting then try a full battery pack run. Stop running if you notice a sharp decline in speed or things don't seem right, check everything over before trying to continue.
Also is there any identifiable markings on motor that might indicate which 19turn it is. Motor can color, endbell color or label.
IntegratedPi
06-07-2006, 09:38 PM
i have a LRP Runner, good down to 16ts i believe and it has reverse. the ONLY problem is that it doesnt have an on and off switch.
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