whats the best touring car

[excellent]

i know i already posted a topic for this about stadium trucks but i need to know what is the best touring car to buy for just driving around i still want speed but it doesnt have to be perfect im looking for one thats the cheapest for the best performance thanks

[Nairb]

If I were you, I'd go for one of the cheaper TC3 kits.

[excellent]

yah i was gonna do that but i dont have a lot of money and im kinda ancy right now so i want one quick and then i was gonna save up and get a good stock motor and a mod motor then also some good battery packs and other hopups this is the reason i was thinking maybe a traxxas 4-tec i dont know though thanks guys

[erics]

Get a used HPI RS4 PRO. They are all over the place, have good performance and can be upgraded to the PRO 2 I think. I would guess they don't cost much at all.

[TC3~Racer]

With the TC3 You dont have belts to worry about and it is a great car. I beat my friends pro regularly, lol. Also pros are good cars, and one of the main reasons the tc3 is better may be just that its so much new! so just make sure u check out a car if u buy a used, like looking for striped screws, exesive play in ball cups and other things that can get worn like diffs and shocks. and also get the cars instruction manual if u go used.

[TA03 Drive Hard]

Hmm that's a tuffy... NOT http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/biggrin.gif heck i go with a TA-03... Tamiya's been known for it's inexpensive and durable parts... not to mention the kits it's self...i own 6 03s already and i enjoy racing them... i have two of them that are super modified... it's almost as if it were another car...dispite the 04 being released... i still feel the 03 is still a good all around contender... well there goes my 2 cents http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[FastDad]

Associated RC10L3 Touring, nothing is faster for the same money.

[BBalak]

Originally posted by FastDad:
Associated RC10L3 Touring, nothing is faster for the same money.

I'm not sure what racing classes they have "across the pond" but here in the US, the RC10L3 is not a touring car. It's a pan car. Unless you have a direct drive touring car class at your track, you need to get a real touring car, like the TC3, the Pro 3, Schumacher Axis, Yokomo MR-4TC, etc...

Bryan

[TufferWilde]

For the money, get either the MR4-TC kit or the TC3 Racer kit. both are competitive out of the box, with stock setup. Both come with bearings, body, tires (even though the V-Rages **** ), and the availability of parts is good at most tracks, but it is usually easier to get parts for the TC3, it all depends on the track you are running it on.

Another question you have to ask yourself it whether or not you are going to run it on the street, or only the track. The Yoke will allow some rocks to get into the belts, and the TC3 will allow rocks to get into everything but the drivetrain.

As for the TA-03, it is probably a good car, but not out of the box, there should be no cause to add a shopping list of parts to have a car competitive when cars are available which are competition cars out of the box.

FastDad - You are right - the L3 is a rocket, but very few places are running pan car touring classes any longer.

[HauntedMyst]

Here is my understanding of them

Associate TC3. Very good right out of the box. Excellent speed. A bit fragile compared to other cars. Drive shaft means little or no drive train maintenance. Good parts support at hobby shops.

Schumacher: This car wins just about every national race yet doesn't seem to have nearly the parts support at hobby shops.

Pro 2 Excellent car for the money. Very durable (I've crashed mine at top speed several times and it only has a few scratches. Excellent parts support at (at least around here) hobby shops. You have to like working on your car though because diff maintenance means taking nearly the whole car apart.

Yokomo: What can you say, it is always winning races. Around here (Chicago) 1 shop carries parts for it. The few people I know that own them love them.

Tamiya: Still waiting for them to release a real touring car http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/smile.gif

At least around Chicago, Corally, Atlas and XRay have no parts support. Al's is supposed to carry the XRay but have nothing yet.

[BBalak]

The car is not leagal for competiton in the Touring Car class in any organization.

IMFAR Rules section 7.2.2 state:

"Chassis must have a flexable joint (eg dogbone/s or universal joint/s) in it's driveshaft. Drive train and suspension design is free from restriction. "Flat Pan" 1/12th and 1/10th Track style) chassis are not allowed."

Therefore, the RC10LTC is NOT a touring car.

Here are the current rules:
http://www.sarda.org.za/ifmar003.pdf

I'm not saying the car isn't good, I'm just saying it isn't legal for racing in santioned events.

Bryan


[This message has been edited by BBalak (edited 02-06-2001).]

[FastDad]

Lets not get away from what Excellent's original question was, what is the best car for the least money was more or less what he asked. Any four wheel drive car is expensive to purchase and run over the same period of time as a L3T, it will not be as fast unless
you spend on a modified motor. What we do not know is where he wants to run the car, indoor on carpet or outside in the street.
Outdoors yes a 4wd car, on carpet I know my choice.

[doublet]

TC3's are not fragile!! My step brother is not the best driver and while he wanted a touring car he got a racer TC3 and wrecked it daily and nothing ever broke. And I think the drive shaft is more forgiving than belts when it comes to running on dirt and loose gravel. The gears are all sealed, so how do pebbles get in it anyway? It seemed almost indestrucible. Only thing that broke was a front a-arm from falling off a 3 foot drop from the porch and hitting a stump sideways.

[doublet]

OOPS!! I said nothing ever broke. I stand corrected... :P

[FastDad]

BBalak, widen your horizons,Associated have marketed the RC10L3T as a touring car for over a year, 190mm wide equates to Touring cars.

[BBalak]

Here was his original question:

Originally posted by excellent:
i know i already posted a topic for this about stadium trucks but i need to know what is the best touring car to buy for just driving around i still want speed but it doesnt have to be perfect im looking for one thats the cheapest for the best performance thanks

Like I said, here in the US, if you tried to enter an RC10LTC into the touring car class at your local track, they would tell you to go jump in a lake. There is NO WAY a 4WD Touring Car will keep up with a 2WD Pan Car (no matter how wide it is). Even if they have the same motor, cells, etc... Also, most tracks do not allow foam tires, since they are illegal accoring to IMFAR rules. The RC10LTC sells for about $115 here in the US. You can get an RC10TC3 racer kit for about $150. The TC3 uses side by side or stick packs while the RC10LTC has to use saddle packs - something most new people to the hobby avoid since they have little to no soldering experience. What he needs to do is check with the local hobby store and find out if there is a class for these cars in the area. If he's not going to race, and doesn't want to have to buy a new kit in the future to do so, the RC10LTC is fine.

Bryan


[This message has been edited by BBalak (edited 02-07-2001).]

[Sprite@]

I ordered a XRAY T1, but it still hasn't come. I hope its good!

[Smitty]

I would get a 4TEC. It is durable (I've jumped it with out dammage), fast (about 20 MPH straight out of the box), cheap, and it can win races. Want proof, I've beat'n 12 Turn powered Pro 2's and TC3's with my P2K powered 4TEC. But that might be my awesome driving. http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/smile.gif But if you are willing to spend a little more I would go for a TC3. You get a pro style car for a good price. It all depends on if you want to race or fool around. I do both.

[rvrrun]

Sprite,

The XRAY T-1's wont be in, at the earliest, til sometime next week or, at the latest, the end of Feb.

Atomic said they would travel up from the Winternats to ship them if they came in this week, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

MS

[OB4_DRIVER]

Obviously I drive an OFNA Ob-4
Yes it is a belt drive car
No it is no slower or faster than a TC3

My recommendation on what car to buy would be by one question "What do most people drive at the local track?" If you buy that car you will get two things
1.Excellent parts support for damage that WILL HAPPEN no matter what kind of car you are driving (even if it is a cinderblock with wheels)! When I started driving I hit everything in sight and as time went on the fastest thing to change has been how fast I hit. http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/redface.gif)
2.The second, and in my opinion more important, thing you get if you buy the 'local' car is years of experience and tech support from everyone at the track. I don't know about you but when I first started I hardly knew what understeer was let alone how to fix it. What tires work best on this track? What springs? It can be very expensive to find this out the hard way so use your local resources.

Hey, I drive an OB-4, there are NO parts available for my car! No tuning advice... I made the decision and now I have three of the cars, one JUST FOR PARTS. I occasionally wish I had got a TC-3 but hey 'I got a good deal' on the first OB-4.... say it with me 'There is nothing cheep in RC'.
But seriously I like my OB-4 It's DIFFERENT from all the TC-3's out there and perhaps under certain conditions I can make that difference be a faster car. You know all the TC-3's will be set up more or less the same and I know that I am not as good a driver as some of the guys that run TC-3's. So what chance do I have to beat a superior driver with an identical car? Besides it makes the pits more interesting http://www.rccaraction.com/ubb/redface.gif)
The decision is yours but until you have enough experience to go out into the RC wilderness alone, I would recommend the 'local' car.

[I*bas Racing]

go for the tc3. I own 1 it is the greatest. I wouldn't go for the X-Ray t1. In my opinion i think it is hard to get parts and that just wait a little longer and spend a lot less for the Hpi Pro3. I could serpent and they said they don't know on a price yet they said that at the lowest 350 but that is at the lowest. And good look trying to recieve a hudy setup. Those shipments have to go all over the U.S.