With so many motors out on the market, how are you supposed to know what to use?

[Isky]

Its just that...there are more than 10 companies that make motors. How are you ever supposed to know what to use? Team Orion has about 40 different wind and turn combos just for their crome modifieds. Its just so confusing, you know? How is anyone supposed to know what to use, in what car? AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Its so frustrating!!!!!!

-Isky

[Iforgot]

I agree, The only way I figure it is find out what you can afford... if you have a esc then you have to find out what the motor limits are.
then you can look at what you are using the car for and your experence level.
Keep in mind that the lower the turns the faster the motor & lower run time
the higher the turns the slower the motor and the longer the run time.
and the winds are single double triple quad ect
this refers to how many strans of wire there is... the more winds the higher torque ( I think)

If you are new to r/c and you put an 10Tx4 trinity D4 in your car you will probally be amazed with the speed but you might be slamming it into the wall at every corner
what do you plan on doing with your car/truck and how fast do you want it to go?
what kind of car is it?

[Grizzbob]

Personally, I still believe you should work your way into hotter motors over a good deal of time, the way we all used to do it. When I got started, I stuck to stock motors for quite awhile, till I felt I had enough control to handle a faster one. Then I started with something like a 17 turn motor, which was plenty faster than a stock, & I had to further refine my driving to control it. After that, I just used winds that were incrementally lower(i.e., from a 17 to a 16, then a 15, etc.) & I eventually made my way to the hotter winds. By that time, I had learned enough control to know which winds to use in a given situation, & what to do with them to fine tune my car. As for the different manufacturers, I'd just go with the companies that you trust. There aren't that many different motor designs, just companies that do the armature winding & tuning, so just ask around & go with the company you feel you can trust(personally, I like Fantom, I've met the owner, Troy, & he definitely knows his stuff)..... :cool:

[Isky]

Im not a newbie guys, hehe. I know the basics, but...now that I think about it I'll go with what Grizzbob said. Go with who you trust. That would be Orion(Peak too since they are like 1 company) and Fantom...Wonder why they dont do Orion retrofits?
-Isky

[SirSpeedy]

This is really one of those, "If you have to ask, you are not ready."

Get a machine wound mod, $40 or less, and start there. Good mod motor require a great deal of maintenace.

But if you insist, go with Fantom.

BTW, Fantom does not feel that the TOP can design is enough of an advantage over the Yokomo based motors.

See ya...

[muffenbier]

Just look at the Reedy Motors. If you want off road modified look at thier Fury and Millenium Wind, on road than the new T1. For stock motors get thier MVP. Good torque and slightly more RPM's than the famous P2K.

[prime]

Consider investing into brushless. Either wait till Novak rolls their offering out during Summer 2001 or purchase from Modeltech (England) or GM (Germany). Aevox is a US based producer of brushless but they have a very weak R/C car offering.

Related links: http://www.gtdodd.demon.co.uk/index.htm http://www.gm-racing.de/index3.html

[WhoKnowsWho]

What's the price on the Speed Commander ESC for brushless motors, and the EVO one brushless motor. I never took German and that price list looks scary.

EDIT: Never mind... about $400, $250 more than I was willing to spend right now.

[ 05-07-2001: Message edited by: WhoKnowsWho ]

[BadRacer]

Okay, i don't get it...... "don't buy a Trinity motor because their customer service bites"? :mad: Whats that got to do with how the motor runs. Customer Servicer does not affect the performence of a motor.

I have a GM3, P2k, Reedy Rage, Orion Chrome Rs, D4 9x3, and a Peak Aurora 10 double. And as you can see i mostly have Trinity motors, they have never let me down even tho customer service "bites".

Just go with what you trust, I trust Orion and Trinity.

Keep it Real
BadRacer :cool:

[DJ BlendeR]

I asked the the guy at the shop. He gave me a motor no one has ever heard of but it totally kicks you in the pants. Its the exact same can design as a P2K, but its called a Matrix 7.5r, I kept up with my friends Orion 15T mod, I think it was orion.... So either ask the guys at the track what they are running or ask your most competitent LHS RC person.

Whoknowswho: Whats the price in german, I couldnt find the motor, but what ever it is, if it is in DM, divide it in half cuz its 2 DM for every 1 US dollar. If its in Euro, then its an exact equivelant to the US dollar.

[Iforgot]

personally i bought a kyosho Atomic force 17tx2 and I love it, it's got plenty of torque and a very nice top end speed. The main reason I got it was the $$ and it is very low maintanence. I didn't want to rebuild it after 5-10 packs.
towerhobbies had it for $20

[WhoKnowsWho]

I know DJ BlendeR, I used a currency converter to change the money to US dollars.

[HauntedMyst]

The most important thing to remember is NEVER EVER buy a Trinity motor. Their customer service bites. Get a Peak Stratus, a great motor at a great price.

[HauntedMyst]

"Okay, i don't get it...... "don't buy a Trinity motor because their customer service bites"? Whats that got to do with how the motor runs. Customer Servicer does not affect the performence of a motor."

Simple, eventually you are going to be looking for help when your motoro doesn't run and getting NO help from the company thats makes it not only bites, it means finding that help elsewhere.

[DJ BlendeR]

Well if the motor isnt working, you probably need to replace something, or you cut your comm too much in which case you know a whole lot about motors that you wouldnt need customer service. People at the track are always willing to help. I was surprised at how true that is the first time I went. So people will tell what is wrong, and people behind the counter will varify it.

[BadRacer]

I see were your coming from Haunted but most ppl do not need customer service to fix a motor.......now on the other hand when you get the motor and the first time you run it, it goes up in smoke then you need customer service and so on.

But you gotta remember these companys are not like a big company with alot of ppl to answer these phones to help ppl. Like something goes wrong with your "Sony" big screen TV, im sure you will get the help. But with motor companys like Trinity seem big and produce alot of stuff but in real life there are not. Everybody looks at Losi, AE, Yoko, Traxxas and so on as big companys but really are not. This is just my opinion.....i like Trinity motors and never needed service to help me fix a motor.....if one so happend to go up in smoke i send it back were i got it from and got a new one.

Just my 2 cents worth :D

BadRacer

[hauntedmyst]

But you gotta remember these companys are not like a big company with alot of ppl to answer these phones to help ppl.

I apreciate you don't need help to fix a motor. Lots of people do need help with them. My LHS would have helped me as well, however, I decided to go to the source and was completely ignored which asstounded me based on my experiance with other companies. In fact, I've found strong customer service to be one of the hallmarks of this industry and something the industry as a whole should be proud of.

I strongly disagree with your statement above. You call Associated, you get someone on the phone. You call HPI, you get someone on the phone. You call Peak, you get someone on the phone. I've emailed a lot of people even here at RCCA and always gotten personal response from the people I see write the magazine like Greg. The list goes on and on, all of them are small companies in the R/C industry, the vast majority are smaller then Trinity. Why? I'm sure RCCA does it to keep their finger on the pulse of their readers. The other companies all do it because they've all made a dedication to customer service. Without it, this industry won't survive. It's just a matter of principle with me that if the company that makes the part can't help me with it then I won't do business with them.