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beef_flavored
09-20-2001, 03:26 PM
Does anyone else see the potential in these new micro sized kits? I, myself, think that 1/18th scale rc would be awesome. we can even have nitro, with say the ultra small cox engines they have, why not? 1/18th scale rc in all the classes is possible!!

Other_cents
09-20-2001, 03:33 PM
HPI tried the Nitro kit first, but that kit failed in the US and is no longer being produced here. I think Europe might still be using them.

SteveP
09-20-2001, 04:40 PM
What kit is that? A micro nitro car?!

Other_cents
09-20-2001, 05:03 PM
Nitro Mini RS4. Look for it in the discontinued list on the HPI website. http://www.hpiracing.com

HauntedMyst
09-20-2001, 05:08 PM
That was a mini, not a micro. He is refering to HPI's new Micro RS4 and it has huge potential. I've heard of shops selling 30 and 40 of these and that will only grow with Christmas. it's the first micro "racing" car and my LHS is already planning races around them. While the nitro version is a cool idea, most will run these cars indoors making nitro impractical.

Other_cents
09-20-2001, 05:15 PM
What I have seen was that the Mini was a 1/18 scale car and so is the Micro. I know the differences between the two cars especially since I am about to purchase a Micro today, but what scale was the Mini?

I was replying back because the specific question was if there is a 1/18 scale Nitro.

HauntedMyst
09-20-2001, 06:57 PM
I don't know the scale of the HPI Mini and thought you guys made a mistake on the scale of the Mini or Micro. I actually think the idea of a Cox engine in the Micro is pretty clever.

Other_cents
09-20-2001, 07:05 PM
You are probably right about the Cox. I think the reason why the MINI failed was because it was using a .15 engine which made it top heavy for such a small car.

HeatMizer7
09-20-2001, 08:08 PM
How much are these cars going to cost? :rolleyes:

rcracer_xxxt_futaba
09-20-2001, 09:23 PM
Are the Cox enginse like .07 or something?? I think I saw some really small engines by the Plance section

-N8

Cosmo
09-20-2001, 09:50 PM
The HPI mini cars were about 1/12 scale (about the same size as a Tamiya Mini Cooper or something like that). Cox used to make a gas pan car that was about 1/13 scale. A little smaller than 1/12 pan cars. It had a .049 engine. But I think that the Micro is just too small to put in a gas engine. Even a small one. If you could get the engine in there, you'd still have to find room for the throttle servo, fuel tank, receiver pack, and the drivetrain.

beef_flavored
09-20-2001, 11:10 PM
weeellll, maybe they can include a throttle servo in the kit. a specially designed micro servo just for that. anyone think micro off road would be a good idea?

beef_flavored
09-20-2001, 11:12 PM
this was a double post sorry

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: beef_flavored ]

Other_cents
09-21-2001, 09:51 AM
Off-Road would be nice, but after building my Micro last night I can not think of a way that it would work. The suspension on this car is very small and has a short ride. If someone was to try to use this spring suspension Off-Road you would just be bouncing everytime you hit a jump.

Not only that if you were to try to run it in the back yard you might loose it since it is so small. :D

CTRallyRacer
09-21-2001, 10:03 AM
If you want a small off-road vehicle... get either an Electric or Nitro HPI Mini, and convert it with Rally suspension (shocks, arms, and dogbones). Then use Rear buggy tires on all four corners... works great! I made one for my son... and he loves it.

[ 09-21-2001: Message edited by: CTRallyRacer ]

PCC
09-28-2001, 12:10 PM
Believe it or not the Mini's scale is 1/10. The reason for the smaller chassis was because they wanted to have the smaller car's bodies made but the standard 255mm long TC chassis was too big. Imagine a Mini Cooper with the same wheelbase as a standard TC, the body will be 1/8 scale: I think Tamiya did this.

The Mini failed because they cost too much for what they were perceived to be: a smaller scale car. They were the same scale but the public perceived it to be a 1/12 scale car so they thought the price should be lower. As it was it sold for about the same cost as the standard models they mimic'd. The Mini came in three versions: the standard one with FRP chassis and dogbones, a Pro version with graphite chassis and aluminum CVD's, and a Nitro version. If you looked at the HPI RS4 cars you will see that they had a similar lineup: The Sport (2) was their FRP version, their Pro 2 was their graphite version, and they had the NRS4 (okay, the last one is a stretch if you compare the Sport 2 and the Pro 2 but it isn't if you compare the original RS4 and the original Pro).

The Micro is a true 1/18 scale car. It is too small to be nitro'd.

As for the popularity of the Micro, it's because of the size and the handling. It is small enough that you can make a small track in the parking lot of most LHS's (my LHS is planning on doing this) and people can't run 1/10 scale cars on these small tracks because they are so small. The Micros handle a lot better than the Mini-Z's because of the 4WD drive nature of the chassis and this makes it a lot of fun for newbies as well. It's a great car.

CTRallyRacer
09-30-2001, 11:27 AM
I don't see how the Mini was a 1/10th as my Mini's chassis was smaller than that of my Rally.

PCC
10-03-2001, 03:46 PM
Think of it this way: A Geo Metro is much smaller than a Dodge Stratus but the scale is the same...

InspGadgt
10-03-2001, 07:47 PM
The mini when sold as a Mini Cooper with the Cooper body was listed as a 1/10 scale. However the chassis is listed my manufacturers other than Tamiya as a 1/12th. All the othter bodies made for the mini scale cars with the exception of the Alpine I think were also listed as 1/12th.