RC Motorcycles

[702nitro]

Im just curious, i've seen these rc motorcycles in magazines and i'm wondering how the hell does it stay up in a stationed position like when your starting it, or coming to a complete stop? How does it stay up?

Also, any body have vid clips?

[pleaseletmeon34]

It doesn't. You stop it falls over. I have an old video from car action (around 1990) that has nitro bikes in it. Pretty cool, they look hard to drive though.

[^j!nx^]

Here is a really good bike forum. I personaly have 2 1/8th scale bikes, brushless 1/5th and a nitro 1/5th. With the crash bars you can some to a stop, if you do give a little gas, the bike circles once and stands right up. You can also come to a near stop and the bike wont lay down.

link to bike forum (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=183)

Nitro Bike video (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/nitroracing.wmv)

my brushless bike running very old packs. (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/bike.wmv)

my elec bike
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/fm1e.sized.jpg

my nitro
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/CRW_6522_01.jpg

one of my 1/8ths
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/repsol.jpg

[guver]

I don't get how they steer (without body english) I have heard they steer backwards and then lean, but just can't seem to "get it"

[702nitro]

Here is a really good bike forum. I personaly have 2 1/8th scale bikes, brushless 1/5th and a nitro 1/5th. With the crash bars you can some to a stop, if you do give a little gas, the bike circles once and stands right up. You can also come to a near stop and the bike wont lay down.

link to bike forum (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=183)

Nitro Bike video (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/nitroracing.wmv)

my brushless bike running very old packs. (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/bike.wmv)

my elec bike
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/fm1e.sized.jpg

my nitro
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/CRW_6522_01.jpg

one of my 1/8ths
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/repsol.jpg

Since you've got an rc motorcycle, thats gotta mean you've got a street bike.
I own a 2001 Honda CBR600F4i !

[desfjr1300]

Guver- Unlike real bikes which are counter-steered, the way these work is to turn left, you turn your transmitter wheel left but don't hold it.(return steering to neutral) The bike will drop into a lean and when you want to straighten out again you would make a quick "turn" to the right with the transmitter. This will stand it up again and off you go. Naturally you're not going to be able to take s-curves or make multiple transitions as fast as you could with a car/truck, but it's really not as hard as it sounds-these bikes tend to stay up pretty much on their own. With practice I've been able to run a fairly technical track-not very quickly mind you, but at least I could get around without running off or falling over!

[^j!nx^]

Guver- Unlike real bikes which are counter-steered, the way these work is to turn left, you turn your transmitter wheel left but don't hold it.(return steering to neutral) The bike will drop into a lean and when you want to straighten out again you would make a quick "turn" to the right with the transmitter. This will stand it up again and off you go. Naturally you're not going to be able to take s-curves or make multiple transitions as fast as you could with a car/truck, but it's really not as hard as it sounds-these bikes tend to stay up pretty much on their own. With practice I've been able to run a fairly technical track-not very quickly mind you, but at least I could get around without running off or falling over!

sounds like you have never driven a 1/5th scale bike. you totaly 100% have to counter steer.

[desfjr1300]

Man you are so incredibly wrong it is mind boggling.

Let me explain this to you in very simple terms.

I commute by bike, race on an amateur level, and have been riding for more years than you've been alive. On a real motorcycle, the ONLY time you are NOT countersteering is that initial "push" on the bars to initiate the lean-the rest of the time you are putting pressure on the bars IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE TURN. In other words, push left to turn left, push right to turn right.

Get on your ten-speed and try it out.

RC bikes drop into a turn and hold it until you counter-steer out. Not exactly the same thing.

I dig your bikes man, and that Duc is a beaut, but try to think before you slam people.

(Own 2 Kyosho Hor's)

[^j!nx^]

if you ever look at your bike and the radio set up you WILL! see the bike actualy counter steers. Just you have the servos reversed so you dont notice it. Trust me the bikes DO counter steer.

sence you have an HOR pick it up, look at it head on. Watch wich direction the driver leans then look at wich direction the wheel is headed. the wheel DOES counter steer.

[^j!nx^]

http://www.rcbike.com/'steery_theory'.htm

here is the first part of how a r/c bike turns, I suggest you read it all to see how you said the r/c bike turns not how its really done. Like I said you must have your servo switched so you think your actualy turning into the turn.

"Lean into corner
As I said, under power a 2 wheeled vehicle is naturally stable in a straight line. To make it turn, we must upset the balance. This is done by turning the handlebars. Now to lean any 2 wheeled vehicle to the left we must turn the bars to the right and vice versa. Sounds daft, but this is the same for all traditional two wheeled cycles (go try it if you don't believe me). This back to front effect is called counter-steering and is much talked about in full size motorcycling circles (excuse the pun). In our case counter-steering doesn't turn the bike, it merely shifts the weight over to one side or the other.


If counter-steering would turn the bike successfully alone, we would not need the soft sprung steering linkage attached to the servo arm, and this page would be much shorter. We can demonstrate counter-steering on a bicycle. If you counter-steer and keep the handlebars at the same angle you lean and lean and fall off the side of the tires and crash (don't say I didn't warn you!).


So why hasn't this happened to you up to now? What actually happens is that automatically, your brain tells you to stop counter-steering once the bike is leaned over, this allows the front wheel to follow the path of the corner by itself. This leads us nicely into section 2 of this steering tutorial ..... the turn."

[desfjr1300]

I see what you're getting at. It looks like the bike "counter-steers" when you turn the wheel, but what's really happening is it only moves the fork sideways from left to right. The wheel itself does not point either left or right.(Well ok, a little.) Now, that may look like counter-steering to you, but let me ask you this...Let's say you're out running that pretty Ducati and decide to run counter-clockwise ovals. As you approach the first turn, you tip the bike in with a bit of left "steering", right? Now, do you continue to hold the transmitter wheel turned left? No. If you did it would fall over. If you judged your speed correctly (in other words you don't have to make any corrections to complete the turn) then you return steering to neutral until it's time to straighten out.

That ain't counter-steering, my man.

Now lets assume you're on the same oval, coming out of that first turn. To get the bike to straighten up, what do you do? You turn the transmitter wheel to the right, the bike stands up, and you blast your way down to the next turn.(I know you can use the throttle to stand it up, but ignore that for now) Rinse, repeat. That momentary act of turning the wheel to the right is the ONLY time you've done any counter-steering.

I only have experience with the HOR's so maybe it's different with the Thunder Tigre bikes-if so I hope you'll tell me how.

[desfjr1300]

Ooops! You posted before I finished.

Doesn't matter. You have just quoted an ignoramus.
Copy an intelligent argument if you'd like to be taken seriously.

[Tezzmin]

The blue one looks similar to a 02' R1. Me like..

[702nitro]

Don't know if it's an '02, but you could be right. But yeah, it is an Yama R1.

[Fluke]

lemme get this straight.

J!nx i just got a thunder tiger ducati999 bike (same as yours)
do i reverse the servo or not?
thanks

[^j!nx^]

lemme get this straight.

J!nx i just got a thunder tiger ducati999 bike (same as yours)
do i reverse the servo or not?
thanks

well power up the electronics. From looking from the rear of the bike steer the Tx left and the wheel should turn right, If you turn the Rx to the left and the wheel turns to the left youll need to reverse the servo.

[Fluke]

thanks

[702nitro]

Man you are so incredibly wrong it is mind boggling.

Let me explain this to you in very simple terms.

I commute by bike, race on an amateur level, and have been riding for more years than you've been alive. On a real motorcycle, the ONLY time you are NOT countersteering is that initial "push" on the bars to initiate the lean-the rest of the time you are putting pressure on the bars IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE TURN. In other words, push left to turn left, push right to turn right.

Get on your ten-speed and try it out.

RC bikes drop into a turn and hold it until you counter-steer out. Not exactly the same thing.

I dig your bikes man, and that Duc is a beaut, but try to think before you slam people.

(Own 2 Kyosho Hor's)

Absolutely! I ride a Honda CBR600 F4i. When you ride a motorcycle and it becomes so natural like riding a bike you forget, the simple mechanics of making a turn. When you ride a real motorcycle you definitely have to push on the handle bar you want the motorcyle to go. For example, if you want to make a right turn, you would have to initially press on the right handle bar. If you kept on pressing right, you would end up hitting the curb.

Like desfjr1300 said, you press to go right, and your press left to go left. But you counter-steer to keepself from hitting the curb.

[desfjr1300]

Hey 702, try to sneak a pic in if you can! Always loved the CBR's, wish I'd never sold my F3. Box stock I managed to consistently place in the top five on mine, and finished up the season in 2nd against alot of fast guys running in some cases highly modified bikes. (Open supersport class)

Funny that so many people consider them "bland" because they do everything so well-really a very underrated scoot....

[702nitro]

I've ridden an R6, Sat on a Jigg and kawasaki, but for some reason in general, CBR's just feels more comfortable, and the steering feels more forgiving.

Heres a link to a picture of my bike:

2001 Honda CBR600 F4i (http://www.geocities.com/flip808mod/100_0136.jpg)

[torque5252]

The R6 and GIXXER have steeper rake and trail angles and longer swingarms than the CBR and ZX6. They also have stiffer frames and suspensions. I raced an R6 for half a season. Spent two seasons before on a CBRF2 with a LOT of mods (including 900RR front end and Erion porting, cams and exhaust) My first ride at Road Atlanta on the stock R6 I was almost (1.708) 2 seconds a lap faster than my best on the CBR. I'd take a CBR to ride on the street anyday!!!!LOL. That R6 is hard on the forearms!!!!!

[kawasakirider]

anyone ridden a hyobusa? they look insane since i havn't got my licence yet im to young i have to stick to my kx 125 its an awesome jumper

[702nitro]

anyone ridden a hyobusa? they look insane since i havn't got my licence yet im to young i have to stick to my kx 125 its an awesome jumper

Hayabusas are killer man! i want to upgrade later on to a 1000, but i don't know about the extra hundreds off cc's.

[kawasakirider]

oh ok and does anyone have any experience with the kwasaki zx 10 r? they are awesome to

[rawdy rider]

Anyone owned or ridden the 1987 -91 Yamaha Fazer?One of the most beautiful bikes ever made.As far as trail bikes are concerned the Honda Xl s are it ;)

[kawasakirider]

Anyone owned or ridden the 1987 -91 Yamaha Fazer?One of the most beautiful bikes ever made.As far as trail bikes are concerned the Honda Xl s are it ;)


nah m8 sorry to tell ya for trail riding the yamaha wr 450 is the go or the yamaha yz 426f kick that honda anyday. :D. But for motocross 2 stroke is the go a 125 2 stroke goes as fast as a 250 4 stroke and a 250 2 stroke goes as fast as a 450-500 four stroke there is no comparisson oh and two strokes are far less maintinence i like the honda cr's , the kawasaki kx, the yamaha yz, i do not like the suzuki rm they look nice but have to much problems , and ktm are way to overrated a cr or kx would kick a ktm's ass in bottom end mid range and top end anyday.

Trent

[jocktheglide165]

Here is a really good bike forum. I personaly have 2 1/8th scale bikes, brushless 1/5th and a nitro 1/5th. With the crash bars you can some to a stop, if you do give a little gas, the bike circles once and stands right up. You can also come to a near stop and the bike wont lay down.

link to bike forum (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=183)

Nitro Bike video (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/nitroracing.wmv)

my brushless bike running very old packs. (http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/bike.wmv)

my elec bike
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/fm1e.sized.jpg

my nitro
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/album96/CRW_6522_01.jpg

one of my 1/8ths
http://photos.rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/repsol.jpg


dude those videos rock man you make me want to get a electric bike now with brushless....wow...

[rawdy rider]

nah m8 sorry to tell ya for trail riding the yamaha wr 450 is the go or the yamaha yz 426f kick that honda anyday. :D. But for motocross 2 stroke is the go a 125 2 stroke goes as fast as a 250 4 stroke and a 250 2 stroke goes as fast as a 450-500 four stroke there is no comparisson oh and two strokes are far less maintinence i like the honda cr's , the kawasaki kx, the yamaha yz, i do not like the suzuki rm they look nice but have to much problems , and ktm are way to overrated a cr or kx would kick a ktm's ass in bottom end mid range and top end anyday.

Trentyes, yes but you are quoting dirt bikes.Im talking bout street trail bikes,you can use about town and do some off roading as well.I ve ridden bikes as long as i can remember and used to prefer two strokers too but now with the new engines coming in four stroke power is the way to go.Just look at Grand prix as an example.Wheres your two strokers now??Ive got a Honda Xl 250 with the rfvc engine and i tell you its one super machine.Effortless power!Love that thumping sound!Secondly a four stroker is just getting started where a two stroker is giving up the ghost.
Yes to agree with you in a way and something i always believed and is a fact,the best bikes are made in Japan.
I personally own the Honda Xl 250,Yamaha Fazer 750 88' and doing up a Yamaha Fzr 87 with new body work(Yamaha R6).

[rawdy rider]

Yeah by the way Kawasaki used to be my favorite brand,used to own the Ke-100,78' and the Ke-175 79' trail bikes.That Ke-175 was special.Beautiful machine.Yeah,had a Harley Davidson Sx-175 trail as well.Good machine.Very powerful.Italian made.

[kawasakirider]

kk sounds good

[rawdy rider]

That there pic o the Duke is revealin it to be one mighty fahne lookin motor-cicle!If it be the TT Duke i be sure to be gettin me self one. ;)

[kawasakirider]

yes, yes but you are quoting dirt bikes.Im talking bout street trail bikes,you can use about town and do some off roading as well.I ve ridden bikes as long as i can remember and used to prefer two strokers too but now with the new engines coming in four stroke power is the way to go.Just look at Grand prix as an example.Wheres your two strokers now??Ive got a Honda Xl 250 with the rfvc engine and i tell you its one super machine.Effortless power!Love that thumping sound!Secondly a four stroker is just getting started where a two stroker is giving up the ghost.
Yes to agree with you in a way and something i always believed and is a fact,the best bikes are made in Japan.
I personally own the Honda Xl 250,Yamaha Fazer 750 88' and doing up a Yamaha Fzr 87 with new body work(Yamaha R6).


Hate to tell you again mate but a wr450 is a road trail bike

[rawdy rider]

Did not say it wernt.Not much into bikes anymore,flying career cant afford broken bones!! ;) (once a rider always a rider)yeehaawww! :) By the way,bikepics.com,if ure into bikes.

[rawdy rider]

Did not say it wernt.Not much into bikes anymore,flying career cant afford broken bones!! ;) (once a rider always a rider)yeehaawww! :)

[kawasakirider]

kool thanx for the site my bike is on here somewhere but is in desperate need of a graphics kit