faskolor vs pactra

[low10s]

i have been painting with faskcolor the last few bodies and i am thinking on trying the pactra soon. do these paints mix, can i paint one part with one and another part with the other? i also find the fascolor kinda hard to spray. i am using an iwata eclipse. thanks

[RCFX]

i dont really like the pactra. I get the cotton candy effect where it starts to turn into strings. I think thinning will eliminate this though. So far I have gotten the most use out of createx paints

[low10s]

i am still very new to painting so i guess i need to try a bunch and see which ones do for me. i think my next body is going to be with pactra just to see how it does.

[FrankW]

What pressure are you spraying your faskolor at, and with which eclipse (gravity or bottom feed)?

I don't like pactra much mostly due to the smell and the clean up.

-Frank

[VelvettFogg]

Faskolor is acrylic, and Pactria is a laquor. I'm pretty sure you cannot mix them... oil and water and all that.

RCFX -- Createx paints and Faskolor are made buy the same manafactuer. Createx is less expensive, which is why I use them over Faskolor.

[low10s]

yes i am using a gravity feed. i spray pearl's at about 15-20 psi, and the regular colors from 20-30. if i am doing something wrong please let me know.

[PitStops]

you can mix them you just have to make sure one is completely dry before spraying the other.

I have moved away from the pactra paint for the most part only a couple I still use here are there. due to the smell and amount of clean up and time to do so.

Also try thinning your water base colors with windex will help them to dry a bit faster.

Bryan

[FrankW]

yes i am using a gravity feed. i spray pearl's at about 15-20 psi, and the regular colors from 20-30. if i am doing something wrong please let me know.


Try spraying your faskolor at 40-50 psi, unless you're doing some close in detail work, then you may want to thin down the paint a little and spray at 20-30. Faskolor likes to spray at high pressures.

[FESTER2004]

yeah i only use faskolor now myself-easier cleanup n no toxic fumes like pactra!

[Piggy89373]

Low10's, there are two different types of Pactra polycarbonate paints. The acrylic line (water based) sprays very similar to Faskolor. The lacquer thinner Pactra sprays uber smooth but will make you high as a kite if you're not careful (not a good thing). The acrylic doesn't mix well with Faskolor and tends to glob up a bit. Do NOT try and mix acrylic and lacquer paints unless you want to spend several hours cleaning up a cement like mix in your brush (a really bad thing).

Also, try Frank's advice. I first heard something similar from CharlieB and thought he'd spent too much time in his booth when told me to spray at 60 psi (for fine lines). :eek: However, it worked. (thanks Charlie)

Since you're new to painting, realize this simple fact: you're going to make mistakes...lots of mistakes. Everyone on the boards makes mistakes. Learn from them and from everyone elses mistakes and you'll be cranking out bodies fit for display in no time. However, this implies practicing. Practice as much as possible and learn what your brush is capable of and which paints work best. It doesn't take long, but does take effort and practice.

[low10s]

thanks for the info, i really appreciate it. i am going to try the higher pressures and see the diff. thanks again.

[WheelNut]

I used to use Kaskolor but I switched over to pactra lacquer paints. For these reasons, they are much smoother spraying, better metalic colours, wide range of colours, I find that they are actually easier to clean up, and they require less pressure so your compressor doesn't have to work as hard. For me the issue of fumes isnt a big deal, just picked up a $40 filter mask thingy from Canadian tire and I'm set. Not to mention that most of the painting I do is in small quantities, like small fades and such so there arent even enough fumes to need the mask. For spraying larger areas the mask is nessicary though. If you do alot of bodies with large solid colour area's use and Acylic paint becuase they have much better coverage, and you wont need the filter mask (although its still not a bad idea so you dont get paint in your lungs), but if you do alot of detail work I would say go with the lacquer paint since they seem to be alot easier to do details with.

If you are spraying with Pactra lacquer paints this is how you should do it, less than 20 psi (I use around 15psi usually), and thin them out at least 1:1, more if your doing drop shadows or detail work.

[C-Hub]

I have never used Laquer, aside from the spray cans, which, the more I learn about painting, the more I avoid like the plague.

Regarding Acrylics and Pactra vs Fascolor. . .

I've never been able to get Fascolor to spray smoothly or consistently with low pressure, high pressure or thinning with water, alcohol or washer fluid. It is WAY easier to clean out of my brush, and no fumes at all.

. . .but. . .

. . .for me it's about the end product. And with Pactra Acryl I can do tight, fine fades without getting overspray everywhere. I still use Fascolor for filling in areas and covering large areas. Probably 80% of the paint I spray is Fascolor -- but the 20% that I'm proud of spraying -- that's Pactra Acryl.

:)

-Chris Hults
Lux Graphics

[Quinton]

Where is a good place to buy Createx or Fascolor? Is it cheaper to go this route over buying a small rattle can for each body?
Thanks!

[cabbynate]

This guy likes fascolors for the easy clean ups.........

[LEADFOOT]

first of all...stop the spamming. One thread is enough to post the same body in....

I don't think low10's was asking if he could mix Pactra and Faskolor paints together. If so, obviously you can't. You can use the two paints on the same body, but if you are spraying Pactra over acrylic make sure the acrylic paint has dried completely.

Also, a tip from Marty Korn, who currently does all the painting for RC Car magazine, you can take a rattle can of Pactra and spray the paint into the airbrush cup. Every paint needs to be thinned differently and the factory does a better job than most people can, so why not take advantage of it? I haven't tried it yet, but I will soon!

[cabbynate]

:rolleyes: