Revo Or The New Mgt?

[WARPCOW]

Ok....i've Been Out Of The Hobby For A Few Years. I Used To Race An Rc10 Gt All The Time. Now I'm Looking To Get Into Monster Trucks. I've Always Drove Associated But It Looks Like The Revo Looks Better....has Anyone Seen The New Mgt In Action? I've Heard The Revo's Arent That Durable? So Tell My Folks...as Far As Racing Goes....mgt(the New One) Or Revo? Tell Me What Ya Think. Thanks.

[Sorcerer001]

You'll probably have an easier time getting the Revo setup for racing. There's a good reason that most of the field at most MT races are made up of Revos right at the moment . The truck is very durable, fast, and handles great with just a few minor mods.
The MGT is a great truck, I'd probably recommend it over the Revo for anything other than racing. It's more "monster" than "racer".
I've had my Revo for around a year now, the only thing I've broken during a couple of big races and a few practice days is a shock shaft - which was a total fluke.
And I normally wouldn't take this avenue, but the Revo just looks so sweet - it's an impressive peice of machinery. The aftermarket companies have really take a liking to it, too. If you're so inclined, you can modify the heck out of it. Or take my route and leave it relatively stock. I've only done to mine what is necessary to keep up with other Revos on the track. The basic mods are very inexpesive - FOC (forward-only conversion), P2 or P3 rockers, springs and shock oil. These things will get you in the game. Switching over to a starter box, high-torque single steering servo, engine upgrade, etc... will cost a bit more, but will help you knock the lap times down.
You'll be purchasing the Revo at a great time - at what is probably the peak of it's popularity. Lots of good stuff out there at the moment.

[WARPCOW]

thanks for the input.....I think I'm leaning that way.....

[MrCrash]

Aside from the radio, the Revo is extremely nice. I almost got on instead of my LST(hint hint ;))

[WARPCOW]

Aside from the radio, the Revo is extremely nice. I almost got on instead of my LST(hint hint ;))

yeah I've heard about the LST too, but I've heard it was better for bashing than for racing? I've never ran losi stuff before so I honestly don't know a whole lot about it but thanks for the advice. :D

[Hard Core RC Guy]

I've had the same thoughts Warp, the price difference is a killer too. Right now you can get the MGT 4.60SE for as low as $370, and the Revo is still hanging at $450. I do feel you get more out of the Revo, but the big point is what are you going to be doing? It sounds like you want to race again, so yes the Revo is more raceworthy out of the box, but these two don't compete in the same class due to engine size, unless you bolt a big block on the Revo, and most only use the .18 OS engines to hop to. The new Mgt would do fine out of the box with a tire change over, and gear swap to compensate. The kicker for me is, the engine $$ when you need to replace, generally speaking the bigger the engine the more the $$, the Thunder tiger engine are good, but I'd hate to upgrade that. I don't think there is a complete wrong choice, just decide what you want to do in the near future.

John :cool:

[FreeRideJunkie]

I was looking at a Revo (even though I hate Traxxas) and have actually decided on the new MGT. The LHS has one and they said that the motor is awesome. The same cant be said for the Revo. The Revo will be better for racing initially... but I have heard/seen that the MGT is far better overall.

[shadowghost1]

MGT, its an awsome truck.

[Racing t]

yeah that is true, you cant race whit the revo stock engine IMO. trx2.5r is a little underpowered for racing, and about the mgt 4.60 i dont now, I´m also interesed in lear more about the new mgt as for racing goes.

[Cotharyus]

If you're *just* racing, the Revo can be a much easier truck to race. However, I have an older MGT that I've never put anything larger than a .21 on (stock, OS RG) that I have schooled many a Revo with. It's all in how you drive. If you want something you can just point at the track and it goes around, and you can drive it any old way you please, get the Revo. If you want something that will go around the track just as well, and stand up to all the Revo's being driven by newbies that will run into you, but you have to work and think a little harder about driving - go with the MGT.

[twistedtrik]

MGT all of the way!

[WARPCOW]

[b]thanks Guys, So Are Any Of You Racing The New Mgt? I Like The Looks Of The Revo But I've Always Been A Team Associated Guy....any Racers With Input?

[WARPCOW]

If you're *just* racing, the Revo can be a much easier truck to race. However, I have an older MGT that I've never put anything larger than a .21 on (stock, OS RG) that I have schooled many a Revo with. It's all in how you drive. If you want something you can just point at the track and it goes around, and you can drive it any old way you please, get the Revo. If you want something that will go around the track just as well, and stand up to all the Revo's being driven by newbies that will run into you, but you have to work and think a little harder about driving - go with the MGT.
COOL....THATS THE KIND OF STUFF I WANT TO HEAR....STOCK VS STOCK THE MGT SOUNDS A LITTLE STRONGER...THANKS FOR THE INPUT...

[Sorcerer001]

COOL....THATS THE KIND OF STUFF I WANT TO HEAR....STOCK VS STOCK THE MGT SOUNDS A LITTLE STRONGER...THANKS FOR THE INPUT...

All I've seen here is "MGT ALL THE WAY", and "Definately the MGT!!!" with little to no explanation.
To say the 2.5R isn't good for racing is not entirely true. I made the A at the RC Pro Series with a stock 2.5R (stock pipe, too), against bigblocks, TM's and TZ's. And I wasn't running it to within and inch of it's life, either.
Stock vs Stock, I can't honestly say that I know who'd win in a drag race - because ultimately this doesn't matter much on the race track. I'd hope the MGT would walk away from the Revo considering it's got twice the displacement. And I didn't know we were talking about drag racing, I thought we were talking about actual timed offroad racing with jumps, whoops, etc... Stock for stock, the Revo would likely run circles around the MGT in this application.
And if you want to throw durability out there, just read the Revo and MGT threads to research problems... that should answer all your questions.

[twistedtrik]

Okay, here is the explanation. I HATE TRAXXAS. I own an MGT and would never own another TRAXXAS. I had nothing but problems with them. The only truck they ever made that I didn't have problems with was my N-Pede. The MGT has been tough as nails with the exception of 2 arms that were my fault. I bash in a gravel pit at work and beat it to death.

[Sorcerer001]

Okay, here is the explanation. I HATE TRAXXAS. I own an MGT and would never own another TRAXXAS. I had nothing but problems with them. The only truck they ever made that I didn't have problems with was my N-Pede. The MGT has been tough as nails with the exception of 2 arms that were my fault. I bash in a gravel pit at work and beat it to death.

Have you owned a Revo?

[twistedtrik]

Nope, and never will. Just because of the many problems I had with the T-maxx and E-maxx I had. Just because the Revo is "different" won't change my mind either. Opinions were asked for and that is my opinion whether anybody likes it or not.

[Cotharyus]

That's pretty strange. I thought my explaination was pretty fairly weighted, and relatively unbiased. Strange how everyone just said MGT and nothing else.

[ss13t]

I Totally agree with sorcerer. People just say MGT without an explination (prolly just cause they have one).. The revo is more durable. Thats it.. People say oh I hate traxxas so I'll never buy a revo. If you hate traxxas it doesnt make the revo a worse truck. The maxxes were brittle, but the revo is surprisingly tough. If i were you i'd get the revo and swap to a single high torque servo and you'd be good to go. Why do you think revo's take the top spots in the big races? The MGT is just a big block variation of a tmaxx.. The revo is a whole new design.

[Cotharyus]

Oh that's rich. The MGT is a bigblock variation of the Tmaxx? Oh gawd, I'll die laughing. Now we have people that have obviously never seen an MGT passing opinions on them.

[FreeRideJunkie]

Oh that's rich. The MGT is a bigblock variation of the Tmaxx? Oh gawd, I'll die laughing. Now we have people that have obviously never seen an MGT passing opinions on them.


It's ok... come middle of this week I will have a 4.60 MGT that will be ready to spank around some Revos. I am not at all impressed with the revo. I have a basic buggy (GS Storm) with a picco .26 and I was beating $1500+ revos with P5's and the like both on and off the track, straight line and not. Hell if all else fails I will at least run them over...

[SpeeD-Jr]

Bashing purpose I would go for Savage 4.6SS / or 25 RTR or any other BB ( LST, MGT 4.6, and so on)
Racing, Revo.

Why Bashing not revo because I don't have a beast into my hand, I'm looking over another engine for it right now, I toasted my 2.5R LOL

I back up Twistedtrik, me also have just when through problem over and over into my 2.5R ( that's the main reason I toasted mine, overheating problems. )


What are thoses p5's FreeRideJunkie?

I was beating $1500+ revos with P5's
-The far as I know of my truck, there is only p3 rockers.

[MrCrash]

I think the P5 is a motor. I think Novarossi makes it.

EDIT: L1nk (http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=108_383&products_id=7982)

[Giant655]

you say a picco .26 GS storm tore up some revos with P5's in them. Good job, that is a fairly common occurence. If you are pegging the needle towards the MGT without doing some research first, you will be one angry pup come race day. Sure the MGT has size, engine displacement, and acceleration over the revo, but what about the rest of the picture, which is a fairly LARGE spectrum. Stock, pound for pound, I'd put my money on a revo every time, unless the revo owner was a massive hack. The revo is just a better race machine hands down, lower, lighter, faster, better designed. Now I dont own a MT, and dont really care too much for them, but I work at a hobby shop and I race 8th scale buggy, so I do get to the track often enough to see them race, along with the ones I sell and fix at work. The revo just has a better package coming with it stock, dual steering servos, 1100 MAH ni-mh pack, low profile wheels&tires, laydown shocks, the most suspension travel of any MT minus the genesis( which isnt a MT as much as it is a giant cash hole). Parts support is about the same on both trucks, ease to find and price wise. Just get proper research before you plunk down 500 bucks on a toy car!

[FreeRideJunkie]

Yeah... I have still been doing some research. I will be doing mostly bashing and very little racing. Mostly just playing on the track. If I ever got real into the MT class I'm sure the MGT can be set up very competetively. I like the chassis of the revo I just dont like the fact that I would NEED a different motor right off of the bat and probably a conversions since I would want to go with a .21 or larger. The stock traxxas motor is just crap.

I plan on walking into the LHS with cash and leaving with an MGT. If for some reason something happens in between there and I end up with a revo I;m sure I will love it. I think it is a great truck. They should have upped the size just a bit and released it with an ll new motor. I would have bought one for sure. The more I type this the more I want to get one, run the stock motor, and then scrap it and get a BB... I dunno.

[FreeRideJunkie]

Sorry... and although I beat a Revo with a P5 (the one linked above). The one that was really close was an RB C5... not the p5. My mistake.

[ss13t]

Also just to let you know the revo is awesome and really easy to back or frontflip.

[Sorcerer001]

Yeah... I have still been doing some research. I will be doing mostly bashing and very little racing. Mostly just playing on the track. If I ever got real into the MT class I'm sure the MGT can be set up very competetively. I like the chassis of the revo I just dont like the fact that I would NEED a different motor right off of the bat and probably a conversions since I would want to go with a .21 or larger. The stock traxxas motor is just crap.

I plan on walking into the LHS with cash and leaving with an MGT. If for some reason something happens in between there and I end up with a revo I;m sure I will love it. I think it is a great truck. They should have upped the size just a bit and released it with an ll new motor. I would have bought one for sure. The more I type this the more I want to get one, run the stock motor, and then scrap it and get a BB... I dunno.

You don't "NEED" a new engine right off the bat. A properly tuned and well maintained 2.5R won't necessarily get walked by the 4.60 MGT, even in a drag race. The new engine comes in to play if you plan to be competetive with other Revos that are running aftermarket engines, and the drivers are able to pilot the trucks well enough to put together a good lap.
You'll be putting much more dough in to the MGT to make it a race truck than you would've put in to the Revo to acomplish the same.

[LD3Furious]

I agree with Sorcerer...and as far as breaking in the 2.5...watch the DVD and follow their instructions to the letter. I was formerly a non believer in the Revo...a friend of mine bought one late this summer. He broke it in according to the DVD and it runs awesome. The one recomendation I would make with this engine, consider getting an aftermarket pipe. This isn't a necessity, but will make some difference. The only other thing he has done to his Revo was to replace the stock dual servo steering set up for a single JR 8000.