Ofna Hyper 7 Forum v2.0

[J_Bone]

Like always, Very good info eb4flys!!!
What's happening man?? Haven't seen you in a while. How’s the racing going?

I would second all of eb4flys info and drive the snot out of your current engine and learn to drive it and get it setup right to where you are out driving the engine. Then step up to a good engine.
I had nothing but problem with my 8 port carb.

[kawasakirider]

i have the stock pipe that is in my pics

[EZM]

whats the best oil weight to protect the diffs

[Fluke]

i run from front to rear 10000 50000 5000
i run mainly on tarmac but it does well on the loose stuff too

[Got Dirt]

Anyone know what is going on with the Hyper 8? I thought it was going to be available several months ago.

[Fluke]

its available in europe.don't know about usa

[Karadjas]

I painted up my new Alfa Romeo 156 GTA in Alitalia colours. Or, since Alitalia had the italian flag colours, italian flag colours :)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0400.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0402.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0403.jpg

The green paint has a bit more pearl in it than what this pic shows, but I couldn;t get it to show on pics.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0408.jpg

[Fluke]

really nice

[nitro_n00b]

karadjas... that's not a hyper 7!

[Karadjas]

Fluke:Thanks!

nitro_n00b: It is. There's a racing class called Rally Game in which onroad-converted 1/8 buggies run. There are chassis pics, pics with my Peugeot 206 WRC and unpainted Alfa Romeo 156 GTA bodies and my setup on pgs 76 and 80 I would like to submit as evidence of my car's Hyper 7 nature :D

In the last pic it looks as if I mounted my wing offset to the left. Actually, it wasn't mounted at all when I took the photos and it moved a bit.
The new racing season starts next Sunday. I had an accident on Wednesday and I don't have a 1:1 car right now, so I may miss it :/ I hope a good samaritan will turn up and drive me to the track to show them technokit snobs how Hypers do it!

[Fluke]

what body mounts do you use?i race my hyper onroads too(got the same tires too :D)

btw: OMGWTFBBQ HYPER7 CLONE!! http://www.smartechracing.com/web_2005/product/cars/083420/main.asp

OMGWTFBBQ2 COMES IN PBS TOO!!
http://www.smartechracing.com/web_2005/product/cars/083421/main.asp

gotta admit there's a lot of similarities

ps read the specs too :D

[nitro_n00b]

nitro_n00b: It is. There's a racing class called Rally Game in which onroad-converted 1/8 buggies run. There are chassis pics, pics with my Peugeot 206 WRC and unpainted Alfa Romeo 156 GTA bodies and my setup on pgs 76 and 80 I would like to submit as evidence of my car's Hyper 7 nature :D

haha. very nice. I now have recollection of seeing page 80, but might have originally skipped 76. :)

edit: ah, I see why I was confused when I originally posted. You've changed your body clip towers.

[nitro_n00b]

guys, has anyone ever had a problem with their pipe slipping forward? The other day I found the cable tie around the pipe was loose. Seeing that it slipped a bit, I tried to pull it back and replace the cable tie.

Five more minutes of running, and it came loose again and the pipe has slipped foward again.

If I try to tighten the cable tie too much, it squeezes the pipe out even more. A guy at my track recommended taking to the end of the pipe with a screwdriver to bend out a lip. If this is a common problem, are there any less drastic measures?

[evaderstman]

Get some hose clamps. They can be found at any hardware store, and work great. There is also a company that makes special clamps for buggies, but they are like 10 bucks a set.

[Fluke]

hose clamp is a bad idea.i did that and while heating,the clamp cut through the coupler.the guy at the track is right.i did it to both my pipe and my manifold and its still holding

[Karadjas]

Fluke: I used two Tamiya TA03 mounts bolted on the front shock tower and a T-Maxx rear body mount on the rear tower. The Tamiya mounts although very durable on a 1/10 touring car, don't feel like they'll last long on a 1/8 buggy. They haven't broken yet, but I may make some thicker ones myself and use those instead.

[Fluke]

i was thinking about duratrax streetforce gp2 body mounts.bodywise does it has a special name or its a standard 1/8 body?i assume not

[Fluke]

oh since you guys in euro you might help me

i would like to know the exact frequency of my sanwa m8 and on the xtal its written 40.75
shouldn't there be another number?i mean 40.75somethin'?
here's a pichttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/3cb0a9d4.jpg

edit:damn looks like an old mans hand :rolleyes:

[Karadjas]

not necessarily. 40.75 = 40.750

[Karadjas]

Well, they're bodies for rally game, so we call them just that. Rally game bodies.
I know HongNor makes them for the ULTRA GTP plus a few other designs, Mantua Models makes them, Technokit makes them... My Peugeot is a HongNor and the Alfa Romeo is a Mantua, and the difference in quality is enormous. HongNor bodies are more durable, more detailed and with better decals. I don't know about Technokit though.

[Fluke]

thanks

[eb4flys]

guys, has anyone ever had a problem with their pipe slipping forward? The other day I found the cable tie around the pipe was loose. Seeing that it slipped a bit, I tried to pull it back and replace the cable tie.

Five more minutes of running, and it came loose again and the pipe has slipped foward again.

If I try to tighten the cable tie too much, it squeezes the pipe out even more. A guy at my track recommended taking to the end of the pipe with a screwdriver to bend out a lip. If this is a common problem, are there any less drastic measures?

Noob, do you have the standard hyper pipe, if so there are 2 options,(i can think of) first off you can flare the end of the pipe, there can be problems with this as if you leave any sharp edges it will rip the coupler, second you can use the longer ofna coupler which stops this happening, and i just thought of a third souloution, buy an inline pipe, not expensive at the moment and think how much money you have just saved on buying an 8 port :D
michael

[eb4flys]

Like always, Very good info eb4flys!!!
What's happening man?? Haven't seen you in a while. How’s the racing going?

I would second all of eb4flys info and drive the snot out of your current engine and learn to drive it and get it setup right to where you are out driving the engine. Then step up to a good engine.
I had nothing but problem with my 8 port carb.

hey... my racing is going well at the moment, had a bit of bad luck at the recent belgium event, but apart from that its doing great, no changes in set-up or equipment, what about you, i expect you must have had a few good placed races with all the pratice you get...

Fluke you might want to have a look HERE (http://www.ukrcc.org/40mhz.html) regarding you Xtal.
michael

[nitro_n00b]

Noob, do you have the standard hyper pipe, if so there are 2 options,(i can think of) first off you can flare the end of the pipe, there can be problems with this as if you leave any sharp edges it will rip the coupler, second you can use the longer ofna coupler which stops this happening, and i just thought of a third souloution, buy an inline pipe, not expensive at the moment and think how much money you have just saved on buying an 8 port :D
michael

cheers. I might have to stick with the flaring option for now because I'm broke atm and I have to order buggy parts from overseas. then I'll work on an inline pipe some time soon.

[Joost]

Im in the mood to post some pics of my upgraded hyper 7 pro :D

Changed the fuelfilters, fuel line, spoiler and soon Medial Pro Woops rims and tires for more traction.
The problem with this tires is that they balloon very fast so less traction.

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/IMG_0001.JPG

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/IMG_0003.JPG

And here the playground :)

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/P1160010.JPG

[Jack858]

I use 25% fuel with 11% lube, has this got too much nitro?

JACK

[Fluke]

should be good.keep an eye on the temperature

[Jack858]

dats the worry....

Seems to 'pop' when slowing cown after 10-20 mins, running quite rich

[eb4flys]

Jak
here is a bit of info that might answer your question.

Using high oil content fuels (above 15%) in gas car engines won't provide improved engine life, as some would expect. Through extensive testing we've discovered the point of diminishing return as far as oil content to engine life is actually around 8% for most car engines. In other words any more oil than 8% in the fuel does noting to improve the life of a car engine. In fact the secondary effects of high oil content fuels can actually cause engine damage by encouraging over lean runs. Here's how.

Using high oil content fuel causes a car engine to be unresponsive during acceleration acting as if the engine were running rich. Typically when using high oil content fuel, in order to get crisp acceleration and response, an engine will need to be adjusted overly lean. In addition the high oil content prevents lean bog when an engine is over-leaned thus allowing the engine to run at this lean setting without the customary telltale lean bog warning letting you know the engine is overheating.

In summary, high oil content fuels don't give added protection. The point of diminishing return from a protection standpoint in a gas car application is about 8% oil depending on the oil type and engine. Anymore oil than this doesn't offer added protection and has potential secondary effects that reduce performance and can actually cause you to over lean your engine in an attempt to get crisp throttle response and acceleration
michael

[Jack858]

Jak
here is a bit of info that might answer your question.

Using high oil content fuels (above 15%) in gas car engines won't provide improved engine life, as some would expect. Through extensive testing we've discovered the point of diminishing return as far as oil content to engine life is actually around 8% for most car engines. In other words any more oil than 8% in the fuel does noting to improve the life of a car engine. In fact the secondary effects of high oil content fuels can actually cause engine damage by encouraging over lean runs. Here's how.

Using high oil content fuel causes a car engine to be unresponsive during acceleration acting as if the engine were running rich. Typically when using high oil content fuel, in order to get crisp acceleration and response, an engine will need to be adjusted overly lean. In addition the high oil content prevents lean bog when an engine is over-leaned thus allowing the engine to run at this lean setting without the customary telltale lean bog warning letting you know the engine is overheating.

In summary, high oil content fuels don't give added protection. The point of diminishing return from a protection standpoint in a gas car application is about 8% oil depending on the oil type and engine. Anymore oil than this doesn't offer added protection and has potential secondary effects that reduce performance and can actually cause you to over lean your engine in an attempt to get crisp throttle response and acceleration
michael


Thanks very much Michael,

great help

[Got Dirt]

eb4flys, Which fuels have 8% oil content and will be best suited to running in Buggies? Odonnell doesn't list their %.

Thanks

[evaderstman]

Odonnell fuel will work great in a buggy. I have ran nothing but odonnell for 2 years in my cars and it runs perfectly.

[Fluke]

some pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/01f4c5ac.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/74266cac.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/0b1bf2fa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/db86351d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/fc249e10.jpg

[Karadjas]

It's pics like yours that make me want to give up Rally Game and turn my pro-r back to buggy...

[Fluke]

thnx.i'm thinking of getting a xray xb8r or ttr s3 and turn my hyper into rallygame (or truggy:D)

[Karadjas]

I mean, the competition I face at the track is way too tough. Everybody has purpose built machinery.

http://www.radiocontrol.gr/images/cronorg1112052.jpg
http://www.radiocontrol.gr/news_crono_rs03_rallygame_111205.htm

http://www.radiocontrol.gr/images/knews19010620.jpg
Kyosho Inferno GT

And the biggest-money,best designed Technokits!
http://www.technokit.com.pt/produtos/imgs/models/1_8_nrg1.jpg
http://www.technokit.com.pt

Not to mention the various Protech Enigma XTRs that are starting to appear...

[Karadjas]

well, if you turn it into rally game I'll leave it as it is and turn my Lightning back to buggy. It'll be fun to have two rally gamers in the same forum!

[eb4flys]

eb4flys, Which fuels have 8% oil content and will be best suited to running in Buggies? Odonnell doesn't list their %.

Thanks

Got dirt,
to answer your question....i cant...., alot of fuel companies have invested millions of dollars into there mixtures, this includes people like odonnall and many others, a friend of mine wont even tell me who supplies his oil let alone his mix, so this makes it very difficult for us to get that info, all i know is that alot of the oil actully arrives in a gel like state and has to go into a centrifuge for a set time at a set speed untill they have the perfect mix. as for using odonnell in you buggy i have used there race formula for many years and have always been happy with the results,
not a lot of help this time, but more usless info to read
michael

[Fluke]

well i'm a bit of rally gamer.my hyper is most of the time racing onroad with street tires(same as you) and slammed down suspension.but we still leave them in buggy config cause from time to time we like to hit the dirt.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/DSCI0007.jpg

that's why i wanna another buggy.btw i need to make an "xb8r vs ttr s3" later

[Karadjas]

Great. I missed the opening race of the season because I had no car.
From what I heard, it was better than all of last season's races and the entries doubled those of last year. The winner did 11 laps and I never dropped below 10 in my last month of practising, averaging 11.

Beware of aquaplaning everybody, it's not fun and it hurts your point tally.

[Fluke]

on a side note.i break more parts onroad than off

speaking of aquaplaning,i once raced in heavy rain.it looked more like a drift contest than racing.it was pretty cool actually.i almost regretted my engine wasn't slower :D

[Karadjas]

I was talking about my 1:1 car, a VW Polo. It just veered into the side barrier 2 weeks ago.

[Fluke]

3-day internet break down and the thread is dead....

WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE???!!!111one11

[Karadjas]

I was just waiting for someone to post so I could reply.

I got my VW back today, but no race tomorrow because of *$%@ rain

[Fluke]

same as you.

$%^#^% rain but that's not gonna stop me

[eb4flys]

at least you guys can race our season has still not started, we have to go without racing for 4 months during the year :(

[Karadjas]

We take our break during the summer, 45* Celsius take their toll on engines AND drivers

[Fluke]

finally got a run today and i think i got a tweaked bulkhead...

anyway i'm selling it this year.maybe september
prolly going mugen

[Karadjas]

YOU TRAITOR!

j/k Why don't you keep the Hyper AND get the Mugen? It can't be that hard to raise the money until september and there's always room for more buggies :D

[Fluke]

i'm trying to keep it as much as i can but if needed it'll go.

[Karadjas]

I made my mind, I'm giving up Rally Game.
I was at a LHS today buying 1/8 shocks for my T-Maxx I decided to fix up after 3 years of gathering dust, and the owner told me he MAY be organising a race series at the offroad track we all used to go to bash.
The only thing I regret is that I didn't get the chance to drive my Alfa body :/

Expect pictures of my Pro-R in buggy form this weekend.

[Fluke]

imo a buggy ain't meant to be run onroad.i still do it cause everyone else does but from time to time i and some friends slap offroad tires and go for a pure bash session

[Karadjas]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0424.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0428.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0429.jpg

Here we go, back to buggy. The pics are horrible, I know. The body is colour-change blue/green/black but you can't tell from the pic.

[Fluke]

now ya talkin' but cf shock towers might be a bit weak for offroading

[Karadjas]

I raced offroad for 6 months before going rally game and I had no problems. There is one tiny scar on the front tower but after a whole lot of tumbles, I believe that's more than ok.

My lightning w/ 4mm 7075 towers would be dead by now.

[Fluke]

hey anybody got the hyper 8 yet?i know Rachel Merry won some races in uk with it

[Karadjas]

I raced against it on saturday and I even got to put a few laps in with it.
It's a whole new driving experience, even MBX5s and 777 SPs feel like mere Ultra LXs in comparison.

[kawasakirider]

How much better to drive and handle is it compared to hyper 7? what mods need to be made to make a stock h7 a h8? What sort of engine did the h8 that u got to drive have?

Trent

[steve-savalas]

Hi Guys, just for info.... I have a pair of Genuine carbon fibre side guards available for the lightning buggy (or any 1/8th scale nitro buggy).

Here's a few photos in case anyone's interested (the price may give you a heart attack though ) These are fitted to my Lightning 2 Pro.

See Photos (http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=214348&goto=newpost)

These are very rare, they wight about 1/3rd of the weight of standard plastic side guards, they're so much stronger, and they look awesome - everybody wants to know where you get them when you go to your track or club!!

[eb4flys]

hey anybody got the hyper 8 yet?i know Rachel Merry won some races in uk with it

hi fluke, not seen rachel for a while she used to be a kyosho driver, and was supprised she never made the thunder tiger challenge cup this year.

[eb4flys]

How much better to drive and handle is it compared to hyper 7? what mods need to be made to make a stock h7 a h8? What sort of engine did the h8 that u got to drive have?

Trent

alot of the parts are not interchangable, on the H8, i did test one the other day, but i guess you get used to what you run and have to say i would rather stick to the 7, in saying that they have done a great job on the pro version of the 8 with a lot of thought going to a lower C of G,

[kawasakirider]

Sounds good :D

[Karadjas]

It had a .26 of some sort, I don't really remember. Not quality though.
In some weird way it beat Collari MBX5s both out the hole and top speed.
Zero drivetrain drag must be the reason :D

It really is an awesome buggy. Hobao excelled themselves.

eb4flys is right though, even though the 8 reacted much faster and drove as if it were on tracks, I still lapped faster driving my 7 Pro-R. I wouldn't invest in the 8 just yet because it would take a lot of time and races to get used to a new chassis.

[kawasakirider]

so its not any faster or more durable than the h7? ok.

[Karadjas]

I don't know about durability, but if I had an 8 for as long as I have my 7 Pro I would definitely shave a few seconds off my lap times.

The 8 was setup for a different person and it was the first time I had ever driven one.

[eb4flys]

I don't know about durability, but if I had an 8 for as long as I have my 7 Pro I would definitely shave a few seconds off my lap times.

The 8 was setup for a different person and it was the first time I had ever driven one.

I noticed you said it had a .26 in, do you have a special class for that size engine in a buggy, or are you limited to a .21 like in europe

[Karadjas]

I AM in europe. We don't hold regular offroad races in my town, just informal get togethers with some head-to-head racing to add to the excitement.

There are no rules. While I was racing against a kanai with the same engine as mine a USA-1 caught up and overtook us on the straight! Twin collaris seemed to do the trick :D

[Fluke]

neways i'm gonna get a new buggy this year(prolly a ttr s3,mbx5,x1cr or H8) and am converting my H7 for onraod(we got a special onroad buggy class)

[Karadjas]

Onroad buggy or full out rally game?

[Fluke]

well lets say rally game chassis with buggy body.when you lower the car do you use the down stop screws?

[Fluke]

all i did for the moment is lowering the chassis to 1cm clearence and added sp racing rally game tires

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/1c0ee925.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/cdbaabf5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/bdddf69b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/6839c41c.jpg

[Karadjas]

I used the downstop screws. With that much downtravel you will get too much body roll and weight transfer. Plus if you lower it using shorter or softer springs you won't get fast enough rebound.

[Fluke]

how much down stop did you use?did you set up the suspension to normal ride height then used the screws to lower it?and those normal blue springs


btw thanks for giving me the unfair advantage of a good setup

[Dirk Jan]

I would recommend to change your gear ratio with those rally tires. They look smaller than off road tires, so it may be smart to get a bigger clutch like 14t or 15t.

I'm driving off road with a 14t clutch on my Picco.26 and I still can go lower without any problems. So I guess you might as well go a little lower when driving onroad.
Your ride looks good by the way :)

[Fluke]

thanks.i'm looking into regearing too don't worry

[Karadjas]

I had a major problem with the front end diving off-throttle, so I ended up using 5k diff oil in the front shocks and rear purple shocks in the front with 25mm of spacers. Stiff! I still got more diving than I wanted to end up with, but I learned to cope with it.

As far as gearing, I ran a 16t on my Delta Force and could go lower.

For setting up, I put the shocks in the most laydown position I could but did not change oil or springs. Then I tried level and 10mm ride heights and got much better results the lower I got. I worked on the shocks/toe/camber/upper arm mount etc etc from there

[HPI rally racer]

Here is my new Hyper 7 i just bought yesterday..any comments, or tips would be gladly accepted..i got a standard radio with servo's and lots of spare parts including a full set of a arms..what do you guys think? i am brand new to nitro AND offroad so i hope i dont have too many problems with this buggy..i just started it up today, and didnt really get to run it, im still trying to tune it and stuff to get it running and keep it running, with the help of some people i know online..anyways here are the pics
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper71.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper72.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper73.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper74.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper75.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper76.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper77.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/coincopy/Hyper78.jpg

[evaderstman]

Looks pretty good, but that chassis is stratched!! From what i can tell it started as a pro model, and has a new center diff brace, and updated shock towers.

[Fluke]

the chassis is not pro tho

[Karadjas]

Fluke is right, just compare the two

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0444.jpg

[HPI rally racer]

man ive been busy running and tuning it and all..damn im luvin the engine, lots of power..does anyone know how to get the grime off the pipe?

[eb4flys]

rally racer, first of all welcome to the wonderful world of hyper, the guys are right its not a pro, but thats no problem, it does seem to have a few upgrades though, as for the pipe the only thing to clean it with is stainless steel paste and good old fashiond elbow grease, unless you have a buffing wheel (a very soft one) i would recommend spending you time stripping it down learning how it works and and then start the task of oil, grease, and thread lock, im sure you will end up like most of us nitro hermits, just waiting for the track conditions to be perfect then hammering the hell out of it, have fun

[Fluke]

for pipe cleaning i used to steal my mom's oven cleaner :D

my guess is that it started out as a pro and for some reason he had to replace the chassis but went standard chassis

[Karadjas]

So it's either a detuned pro or a very hopped up standard 7...
What really matters is that it's a Hyper 7 and we all know how much butt our buggies can kick!

eb4flys has it nailed. Since it is your first nitro, you will feel much mre at ease with it after you take it apart and put it back together. It'll be a great chance to give it a thorough cleaning and spot problem areas(present or future).

As far a cleaning pipe residue... I just leave it on until it forms a nice crusty 'film' and rub and rub and rub and rub it off when it gets about 25mm thick :D

[HPI rally racer]

thanx guys..i have a feeling that its a pro because it seems to have all pro parts except the chassis..anyways ive done alot of research and reading and ive pretty much got engine tuning down..i just had a question about ride height..should i set it with the wheels on or off the ground..when i put the car down, it leans to the left because of the engine and pipe wheight, so i tuned it so that the rear suspension is a little higher to balance it out, is this fine? also i heard that if i boil a pot of anitfreaze and put my pipe in it then the grime will come off, is this true?

[Fluke]

lean to the left?or do you mean the rear leans more than the front?in that case its ok to put the rear a bit higher

[HPI rally racer]

i dunno, the chassis just seems tilted..kind of like a plane turning left, its hard to explain..but i think i got it right..also my suspension seems really soft..i mean if i drop my buggy from say a foot off the ground, the chassis will hit the ground..is this normal?

[Karadjas]

Chassis slap is good, you want the thick strong chassis to take the shock instead of the shock caps, but bottoming out from a foot high... I just tried out mine to check and it didn't bottom out from 2 feet up.
It's down to your personal preference. Soft damping means slower,smoother reactions and better bump absorption, but it is possible to go too far. Suspension setup is all trial and error, you'll most probably have it dialed to suit your driving style in less than a fortnight.

About the tilt... I'd check for binding in the bulks, arms and knuckles. Sway bars too. Maybe shock balls. Anything that connects to the suspension. To set ride height you should push the buggy down and let the springs bring it back up. The height it will set at is where it will sit after going over all the ruts, bumps and jumps. Make sure to allow for downtravel.

[crazy12_99]

i'm new to this whole nitro buggy thing and looking for a nitro buggy for me and my 7 year old to have fun without going overboard does anyone have any recomdations on what to buy

[Karadjas]

Welcome aboard crazy.

Well, a 7 year old will most probably crash hard and all the time. No matter how durable a buggy is, I don't think a full speed head on meeting with a curb will leave much intact.
So, imo you should look for something cheap. Maybe an Ofna LX,a Sinyih buggy or maybe even used ones.

Just my 2 cents

[crazy12_99]

we will be playing with it in our side yard so no curb hitting lol do you know the best place to buy one of them that you said would be good for me

[jldjlaudio]

Hey I got an idea I live probably real close to you and i have a bunch of RC's and you can check them out and let you 7yr old drive em and see what will work the best.. And if I dont have one you like as far as to test out I have access to a few more... Hey Im up for helping anyone get into this as much as they want too.. I have revos and tmaxxes and emaxxes and stadium buggy and a few more,, let me know.. jadjlaudio@netzero.com

[jldjlaudio]

A real one to try out is I have access to is a 1/5 firehammer.. That thing is tough as nails and no worries of using up nitro fuel.. A tank will go all day long..lol.... Just get with me.... PM'd ya my number man..

[Fluke]

a 1/5 firehammer in the hands of a 7 y/o...i wanna see that

my 5 y/o cousin drives the prp swift buggy so my advice : teach him what "proportional" means!other than that he drives fairly well

[jldjlaudio]

well we'll see how it goes when he comes over to run a couple.. I gotta give the guy a real newbie welcome into RC's and break him in right with my revo with a Modded Picco.26 maxx in it..LOL should be intresting.. You guys will never hear the end of that guy then he'll be on here looking gfor RC's all day long then..LOL

[HPI rally racer]

how much camber and toe do you guys use? i dont got exact measurements but my rear camber is in around 2 degrees, front camber is around 1degree and toe in the front is around 3degrees..just was wondering what could give me nice handling

[Karadjas]

Those are also my ballpark settings... It all depends on the driver. Another guy drives a PBS and although we're both quite good with our respective buggies, I'm horrible with his and he's horrible with mine.


Towerhobbies.com has a decent range of buggies, but If you have a hobby shop nearby I'd go for the one they stock parts for.

[SquirrelNutz]

Just thought that I would share some pics of my Hyper 7 PCR. I cant wait for the 8 to come out!

http://i1.tinypic.com/o5ayh5.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5az5f.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5azh2.jpg

And these are picture of it with my CRT Pro kit tires on it! I think it looks really good this way:
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5ayl1.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5ayxt.jpg

[Fluke]

the crt wheels are direct fit?no extenders needed?

[SquirrelNutz]

i have yet to run the pcr with the wheels on it (i have it geared a little too high (way higher than stock) for that and Im waiting for warmer weather and also a new lower toothed clutch bell to arrive). But, they are the same hex size. I think its 17mm? But, that is a stock pcr with the crt tires on them. It has great range, etc and will completely work. You can also put the pcr wheels on the crt if you really want to.

I have owned EVERY single hyper model at point or another. I love the PCR the best and it reminds me of the mugen that I used to own. When I was building the CRT i was amazed at the simularities. At what was different (like the radio tray) it looks like the 8 will have on it. So, I love my PCR and I will probally never sell it. Im looking forward to owning the 8 and having the pcr right next to it. The 8 will be my racer with a (allready owned and waiting for the kit) OS Vspec .21, jp2 pipe, and futaba electronics.

If you like hypers... you will love the CRT. It handles like a buggy but with the MT suspension (tires, basicly).

[HPI rally racer]

got any under the hood pics?

[SquirrelNutz]

Taken last August-
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5ysfc.jpg

This is the pcr VS the CRT Pro truggy. note- the crt has the same type of paint on it as the pcr. so, it too is a green body as well. its just the flash that made it look purple on the spaz stix. I have either a birdman or a squirrel on all of the bodies I paint for myself. The crt has the squirrel and the pcr has the birdman (if you look at the other pics).
http://i1.tinypic.com/o5yu60.jpg

[Karadjas]

Very nice, although I'm a die hard fan of BLACK tires :D

[SquirrelNutz]

LOL!!! You would not be the first, or the last, to say that! You either like em or you dont. A buddy of mine made fun of me constantly becuase I said that I like the MBX's yellow and blue tires.

[Fluke]

hey i like coloured tires.very easy to recognize your car even in the mud

[eb4flys]

good point with the tyres easy to find your buggy, we have to use black tyres in all santioned events

[Fluke]

i always wondered why actually.i know losi kits (or was it rtr?) came with blue tires.doesn't have much to do with performance since the black tires are dyed too

[Racin Rev]

the blue losi tires were actually a different plastic. one pass near the nose with a newer tire would tell you that immediately. they were developed as a spec tire for a spec tire class and sold with a similar spec car. This idea must not have caught on as the blue tires are gone and the car is too (it didn't last long at all)

[Karadjas]

I vaguely remember that...

[HPI rally racer]

what servo's are you guys running? i got some standard futaba ones and they seem to be fine, good speed and decent tourque, im sure others are better but how much of a difference could they make?
*btw on a side note i got a bumpstart for sale if anyone is interested..starts the engine great..not a box, a hand held one..$40 CAD shipped*

[Fluke]

i run a hitec 645mg servo for steering.dude trust me a high torque servo makes a huge difference on steering.i had futaba s3003 at first and it barely turned the wheel.

[eb4flys]

i have run steering Ko propo 2344 fet and T & B Hitec 6975 carbonite digi since they came out and they are a great combo, before that always Hitec due to the speed torque and 2 year gaurentee,
HPI as Fluke said you really need good torque on steering, it;s ok to have speed but without the turning power you wont move the wheels at all, and as for B&T the quicker the speed the quicker the throttle response, but a good amount of torque helps put the breaks on when you need em

[Karadjas]

I use a Hitec 645MG for steering and a Hitec 525BB for throttle in my Hyper, but I'm seriously considering switching them with my T-Maxx's Bluebird 621MG and 661MG.

[HPI rally racer]

thanks for the reply's..im considering buying a hitec 645mg, but that'll come later..for now im buying a starter box..ive got another question..my flywheel is worn out, does this make it harder to start? imean it's not that bad, but u can notice it..should i replace it? also it's pretty cheap right? thanks for all reply's, people on this thread are nice and imformative(sp?)

[kawasakirider]

my flywheel all the notches are very small and round but it came like that how did yours wear out? Mine starts easily even with a smooth flywheel.

[Fluke]

how can you wear the flywheel?does it hang down under the chassis?mines mutilated a bit but no where near smooth.anyway it shouldn't make it harder to start

[HPI rally racer]

the teeth are just i dunno kinda worn down..same thing as you no where near smooth, just was wondering if it was all good..

[SquirrelNutz]

id get a new spur, new clutch bell, and make sure that you mesh them correctly.

[Fluke]

na the spur and clutch is still in shape apparently.should be fine

[eb4flys]

HPI,
it makes no diference at all, as long as your engie starts it will not affect it, the only time it will is if you have big chunks of the wheel missing as this will throw the crank out of balance and mess the bearings so in the meantime just enjoy the buggy and give it hell.

[HPI rally racer]

what shock oil do you guys use? i drop my buggy from 4 inches of the ground and bottoms out(yikes!) i know this cant be to good..anyways once i buy my shock oil, do i like empty out the oil outa my shocks and just put some of the other oil in? i havent done this before so i dont know the procedure, or even how much oil my shocks need..thanks in advance for all help

[eb4flys]

what shock oil do you guys use? i drop my buggy from 4 inches of the ground and bottoms out(yikes!) i know this cant be to good..anyways once i buy my shock oil, do i like empty out the oil outa my shocks and just put some of the other oil in? i havent done this before so i dont know the procedure, or even how much oil my shocks need..thanks in advance for all help

HPI, the guys on here will alays help the only thing being we all race on different tracks with different set-ups so you will get lots of different advice, you will need to experiment to see what suits you best, if you need general tips have a look at my site and go to one of the setup pages this should help you get a base setting SETUP (http://www.freewebs.com/michaelbale/)

[Karadjas]

You will have to experiment by yourself to find a setup that will suit you.

Refilling oil shocks is really easy.

First you drain the old oil. Unscrew the cap, let the oil drip out and move the piston up and down a few times to drain as much oil as possible.
Then, move the piston all the way down and fill with oil up to very few mm from the top. Move the piston up and down VERY slowly, making sure you don't poke it out of the oil. This will lose any air trapped below the piston. Also, while moving the piston up and down rotate it slowly so that no air pockets escape. Then, simply top up as needed and screw the cap back on, making sure to catch the oil coming out from the hole on the threads with a tissue or something.

[HPI rally racer]

also i think my rear left shock might be leaking, even if i dont run the car, the left rear A arm always seems a bit greesy, and it is a bit "springyer" than the other shocks..what should i do?

[Karadjas]

If your shock is leaking, you need to replace the seals. These include the 2 o-rings on the bottom of the shock and the bladder on top. I'm sure they are included in a rebuild kit.
Depending on shaft thickness, you will either need
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXABD2&P=7
or
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZJ6&P=7
and
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCVS5&P=7

I'm not really sure on the bladders, mine are black

[HPI rally racer]

it's pretty quiet around here..do you guys not run your hypers in the winter time?

[Grant Tokumi]

I haven't been running/racing for the past 2 months. Not because of the weather though. I just got married in January in Hawaii and had a trip to Washington DC in Feb so its been a busy time. There is a practice race this weekend for the upcoming Silver State Nitro Challenge, so I might go there to check it out, not to race, but maybe pit for some of the guys if they need help.

As far as other Hyper 7 peoples whereabouts, my guess is some people have jumped ship and got other buggies like the Hyper 8, Mugen, Jammin, etc....

[Fluke]

actually i busted both rear shocks so for the moment its black hawk down.should be ok by sunday

[Karadjas]

And I've been working my rear end off for the past few days

[eb4flys]

im just lazy to use the comp

[HPI rally racer]

man i had just bought my hyper 7 a couple of weeks ago..and now that the hyper 8 is out, i feel kinda pissed..can I upgrade my hyper 7 to the 8? if not i guess this is still a good buggy and i payed $350 CAD instead of paying around $800 USD for the H8..

[Fluke]

eb4flys: Funny you say that,i'm lazy to install applications and games on my comp.WoW have been sitting on my table for 3 weeks now :D

[C-Hub]

Hey guys! This brand new custom painted Hyper 7 Pro-Line CP 2.0 is for sale cheap :) $50.00 delivered.

Includes Mounting & Maintenance tips, 2 body post discs for protection and Acrylic Sealer backing the paint for durability. Candy Ultramarine Blue and Candy Red with glitter.

Please PM any questions or ask us at info@luxgraphics.com

Thanks!

Chris
Lux Graphics

http://static.flickr.com/52/106986371_c1a6540f69.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/45/106986374_d30c588926.jpg

[HPI rally racer]

nice body..ive got another question for you hyper freaks(jk, i think im becoming one too now) anyways my tank seems to be leaking fuel..every tme i see my buggy, there seems to be fuel on the bottom of the chassis, and i wipe it, 12 hours later it appears again..i put the tank under soapy water and blue through the fuel line..no bubbles..can one of my fuel lines be leaking? im not sure why it's like this..

[Grant Tokumi]

That happened to me too. I just went ahead and replaced the fuel tank, fuel filter and fuel lines. It was around time to switch them anyways.

[Fluke]

mine did this too.i found out that some times the lid would pop open and a bit of fuel just sip out.my fix:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/4650b7bf.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/f16819e9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/056625bf.jpg

[Karadjas]

That's the most hopped up fuel tank I've ever seen! :D

[Fluke]

actually i wanted to paint the cap to match the car :D

[eb4flys]

paint the fuel cap........guys i think we all need to get out more, the nitro is starting to mess with our heads... :D

[HPI rally racer]

haha...man i finally am able to run my hyper, i had bought it a while ago, but i had problems with starting it and all..now that its up and running it is ABSOLUTLEY nutz..ive got a school nearby and they're expanding it so there are HEAPS of dirt piles..gunna go check it out tomorro, should be some good fun..(specially cuz i'll be taking a shovel with me :):):)

[eb4flys]

first race of the season at the home track today....now i know why ive been going stir crazy all the winter months, it's great to be back on your home track, :D
do all you guys have local club tracks , have to say we are real lucky enough to have one of the best home tracks in the country, we held the first thunder tiger trophy here last year, with some of the top racers from the US coming over to entertain the locals, was a great day...apart from some french guy getting in the top 3 :mad:
michael

[Fluke]

who?aigoin?sartel?vray?bertin?

[Quinton]

I got a buggy for bashin around. I have 10k in the front and center and 3k in the rear and I have my rear shocks screwed all the way out to make them somewhat stiff.
I'm still getting lots of ballooning in the front tires. Any suggestions on how to improve on this?
Thanks
My buggy is the ofna ultra but that thread is pretty slow so I thought I might get better tips in here.

[Fluke]

ballooning happens at either high speed(we can't do anything about it) or when the tires loose traction.try hardening the center diff to transfer more power to the rear.say 15k
if it can help my settings on my hyper is 10k 50k 5k

for me,no racing at the moment.storm :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/DSCI0004.jpg

[HPI rally racer]

man sux for you with the lightning storm..as for me it was a bit drizzly yesterday but i still went to the park and man did i have fun..there was a long jump pit and so i built up both sides to create a jump...after about 20 minutes my car landed on all tires and all of a sudden they locked..i thought something was stuck in the gears, turned out i was wrong..i could force the front two to move in the same direction, but not the back to, so i i looked at the back diff..you know that purple chassis stiffiner thing? that thing got stuck in the brake pad kinda and wouldnt budge..finally it took it off and stuff, i had lost a screw but i got a replacement one out of my toolbox..haha earlier i even made a screw, i had one that was the right width but it was too long so i cut it down to the proper size and voila..anyways im happy with the experience, unhappy about how messy my hyper is now and how long it took for me to semi clean it since i dont have a compressor, and i cant wait to race..im gonna go pick up shock oil next time i drop by my lhs, i dont know which oil to get..imean my suspension is REALLY soft, any reccomendations? thanks and sorry for the ongoing post, i got carried away :)

[eb4flys]

who?aigoin?sartel?vray?bertin?

saxton, Taylor, and a couple i had no knowelege of but were all the same very impressive

[eb4flys]

[

for me,no racing at the moment.storm :(

and i thought we only had that wet stuff in the Uk

[Quinton]

I thought you guys would be more knowledgable then the ultra crowd but I guess not. :(

[HPI rally racer]

well what do you want to know? you asked about your tires balooning and that is normal..on the other hand i found myself in a disaster today..my clutch came off! and my engine is moved kinda too, no wonder why i was having all these problems..anyways does anyone know where i can get some cheap replacements screws? they always seem to just fall off the car..i checked ebay but isnt $20 a bit expensive for just some screw's?

[Karadjas]

May the threadlock be with you... I use Pacer threadlocker and have never lost a screw.

Use it on all metal-to-metal threads but do not get it close to plastic because it will eat through it. If you have a stripped plastic thread some silicone will help.

[Fluke]

saxton, Taylor, and a couple i had no knowelege of but were all the same very impressive

saxton and taylor or french??? :confused:
for me Jerome Sartel is the best.

Quinton if only the front tires are ballooning when all 4 tires on the ground try hardening the center diff.if all 4 tires balloon or when in air then its normal

[Quinton]

How thick can I go? I'm running 10k in the center and front (that's all the HS had) and 3k in the rear

[Fluke]

most people run 30k in the middle

[HPI rally racer]

hey my car seems to be taking really wide turns..anyone know why?

[Quinton]

If you still have the stock steering servo that would be it. I think the stock one is S-0001 or something like that. It sucks. Get a metal gear servo - it makes a huge difference.

[Fluke]

quinton's right.the hyper is pretty heavy and my stock servos(they are futaba s3003 i think) couldn't even turn the wheels when static.

[HPI rally racer]

i got the 3003's..anyone know a cheap upgrade servo?

[Grant Tokumi]

The Hitec HS-645 is a popular cheap bang for the buck.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUZ89&P=ML

Some claim that they fail prematurely while other have had great success with them. I personally have not had a failure using them yet as my steering servo on my hyper 7. I'd say they've gone through ...... around 2 gallons so far.

[evaderstman]

They are great i had one in my hyper before i went up to the 94358, and even if they do fail they have a 2 year warrenty, so save your reciept.

[nitro_n00b]

i've just bought sanwa ERG-VZ's all round. maybe overkill for acceleration, but top notch for steering.

[HPI rally racer]

hey guys im having some mechanical problems that are really frustrating me..my clutch bell is loose and i dont know why it doesnt stay in place..also one of my damn shoe's fell off, how this happened i dunno but it did..

[Quinton]

Is that a question or just rambling statements? lol

[Fluke]

threadlock on da screw is da key towards success

put dap of threadlock on the screw retaining the cb.but if the screw is ok check for the cb bearings itself

[eb4flys]

A long way for you guys in the US, but anyone in Europe attending THIS (http://www.prolineracing.com/race/2006/PL-Races/06IndoorUK/Indoor_dirt_challenge_UK.pdf)

[Fluke]

aww man i really wish i could

speaking of racing,my rear end is almost 1cm too wide.i tried reducing it but can't seem to work.do any pbs user got this problem?

[HPI rally racer]

try shimming? but that might make them weaker..maybe try the rtr a arms? also for my car the clutch bell seems fine, it just seems that i need new bearings because it slips off the bearings..so do i need a whole new clutch bell or can i just get some bearings? and i know i need the shoes forsure, one fell off!

[eb4flys]

try shimming? but that might make them weaker..maybe try the rtr a arms? also for my car the clutch bell seems fine, it just seems that i need new bearings because it slips off the bearings..so do i need a whole new clutch bell or can i just get some bearings? and i know i need the shoes forsure, one fell off!

HPI
if i understand what your saying,
if your clutch bell fell of the end then all you need is a simple washer, that is big enough to hold the clutch bell on, the top of the screw is the same size as the hole in the bearing, so if you dont have the washer......you can guess what happens next :(

[HPI rally racer]

it's not that it'll slide past the screw..it just wont stay attached to the flywheel..could a missing clutch shoe be the problem?

[Quinton]

Do you have both bearings in the CB?

[HPI rally racer]

i do but they dont seem to hold the clutch bell in place..should i buy new ones?

[Fluke]

you mean your clutch bell fell off with the bearings still on the shaft? :eek:

do you have a spare clutchbell handy just to test?for me either you got the wrong size BB or its time to change the CB

[eb4flys]

dont know about you fluke but im lost on this one, hey HPI why dont you post a pic then we might be able to help, if you cant post then send it to my email and ill post it for you teamcrash@nyc.com

[Fluke]

well you know i've seen really weird things in rc so that doesn't impress me more

[HPI rally racer]

i think i can explain it now, i dont have a camera handy at the moment but here it goes..the clutch bell is loose, it wont go past the nut, but it wont stick to the flywheel either, im gunna take it to my lhs today and see what he says, i believe my bearings are not holding it in place, because they seem a little loose and move around alot

[HPI rally racer]

hey i took my car to the shop the other day..turns out my clutchbell bearings are gone aswell the guy is replacing my shoes with aluminum ones so it should kick ass now..

[Fluke]

so?what was it?

[HPI rally racer]

the bearings man..werent holding the clutchbell right cuz they were blown..the guy also put in aluminum shoes since i was missing one..i hope i dont encounter too many more problems, i dont even bash this thing that hard

[Quinton]

I figured it was the bearings. Just be warned that alloy shoes take more maintenance.

[HPI rally racer]

should i like clean them every onece in a while? and there alluminum, not alloy but yea how do i take proper care of my clutch?

[Karadjas]

I haven't posted in a while. It seems I got too much into my electrics and their future... a future with no stinkin' brushes!

As far as clutch maintenance, a tear down to get rid of dirt and shavings and check for fit and wear every now and then should be ok. Do make sure that you are not running ridiculously low gearing as well, the shoes will heat up and you will have Problems. Note the P.

[Joost]

We have made some adjustments to our HoBao Hyper 7 Pro buggys:

# Laydown servo kit for both servos
# Dishrims with woops tires
# Fuelline
# Spoiler
# The white springs. More stiffnes then the standard springs
# The airfilter going to the back
The pictures:
http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/hypernew/IMG_0003.JPG

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/hypernew/IMG_0005.JPG

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/hypernew/IMG_0008.JPG

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/hypernew/IMG_0011.JPG

http://neoghost.gamesserver.net/images/hypernew/IMG_0014.JPG

[Quinton]

What's good about an air filter pointing to the rear?
Nice lookin set of twins!

[Joost]

What's good about an air filter pointing to the rear?
Nice lookin set of twins!

I dont know if its better but it also isnt bad, thats for sure. And the airfilter doesnt go loose when im driving because it is screwed to the receiver case. We did it more for the looks :) Thnx...

[Quinton]

ah, good idea with the screw. Who makes your stiffer white springs?

[Joost]

HoBao makes them. I ordered them at The Border Netherlands, see here the link:

The Border Springs (http://www.the-border.nl/product.php?productid=19846&cat=151&page=9)

website is in english...

[Fluke]

that's lotsa CF

[HPI rally racer]

im loving the cars..is there an advantage of laydown servo's?

[Grant Tokumi]

looking good joost!

[Fluke]

laydown servos are supposed to lower overall cg but considering the total weight of this thing,unless you had uber heavy servos with lead servo horns it won't make a difference

[Joost]

looking good joost!
Thnx

Well the servokit is lowering the cg and also the weight. The standard kit had aluminium posts to hold the carbon at place but now they are gone so les weight. ( not very mucht though )

[HPI rally racer]

i cant believe it..people make such a big deal on making their cars lighter..right now i am using thicker aluminum shock towers for bashing..should i switch back to my carbon fiber ones for racing? will i notice the difference?

[Fluke]

i'm with you on this one HPI.i can see how lighter can be good but too light your bug will be bouncing off minor humps

i too have lots of alu cause i prefere reliability than lightness(so does ryan cavaliery.ever seen cf on his kyosho?)

[Joost]

Well aluminium is stronger in races and more reliable so stick with the aluminium shocktowers.

My carbon shocktowers are standard on a Hyper Pro 7 so i had no choice...

Maybe i buy alu when my carbon is broken. Aluminium shocktowers are more expensive than carbon shocktowers.

[Karadjas]

CF looks about 500 times better than aluminum and we all know that's what matters most on the pit table.

[eb4flys]

looking good joost, they are starting to look the same as the hyper pro uk edition, as seen below,


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/hyperprouk/PICT0012.jpg

[HPI rally racer]

you see my shock towers are double the width of the stock ones..so it's like having 4 shock towers..outa aluminum haha..great for bashing tho

[Fluke]

yeah but your shock towers are prolly milled

[Joost]

Thanks eb4flys :)

The UK edition looks great indeed, but it wasnt my attention to make it look like that car though.

[Karadjas]

Hey Fluke, got foam? ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/Karadjas/HPIM0462.jpg

Not on my Hyper, but still good for bragging :D
I'm actually in the middle of converting my Lightning and saw these at a LHS. Had to have 'em.

[Fluke]

actually i tried foams too but found them too sticky.i'm faster drifting through turns

[Quinton]

karadjas are you converting an 1/8 buggy to a street car or am I way off here?

[Karadjas]

Yes, it's what's known as rally game. There are pics of my Pro-r in rally game mode on page 76.
It never reached the standard I wanted to though, and it never will unless I make some serious rearrangements on the chassis. So I decided to fully convert my Lightning RR1, which I won't miss as a buggy.

[HPI rally racer]

my steering feels really tight right now..anyone know the problem? also it is not turning tight enough, and i dont think it is teh servo..any advice would be greatly appreciated..btw heres a tip to clean ur buggy...drift your car in teh rain!! ive got tiles for a driveway and it is a pretty big open area..anyways i did some mad drifting and 30 seconds later..whala! cleaner than when i got it :)

[Quinton]

karadjas - I've never heard of seen anyone do that before but that's what I was thinking about doing when I got my ofna comp II (for no reason other then to be different).

What kind of wheels/tires are those? Do they make you lose alot of topend? Are you running a 300mm body? How do you mount the body? Got a video of it or any other cars/buggies like it?
Thanks!

[Karadjas]

Quinton: The radials are Technokits and the foams are GV. Ellegi and Medial Pro also do some great rally game tires. They are smaller than offroad buggy tires (100mm diameter) and so you will have to regear.
The bodies are specific to rally game. HongNor, Protech, Technokit and Mantua Models make them. I'm sure there are more mnfrs but I haven't seen them. To mount them you have to improvise. I use Maxx body mounts, TA03 mounts, cut up plastic coat hangers... anything I see around me that looks like it could work.
I was going to shoot videos a few months ago, but I kept forgetting the camera at home. I can't take some now, since I'll be undergoing surgery tomorrow morning. They are fast, but not as fast as 1/10 tourers. We'll see about that though when I finish my Lightning ;)

[HPI rally racer]

hey guys, my rear drive shaft is really loose..the screw thats supposed to tighten it fell out and so i got no nut thingy in there..do u think i could pick one up from a hardware store or something? or do i have to order it?? also when i turn my steering, the throttle moves a bit for some reason giving the car a bit of gas..glitching? one last thing am i supposed to have only front breaks or all four brakes? when i press the brakes, only the front two stop..im having so many problems, starting to get fed up

[Quinton]

I can't under your jumbled questions, except for the last one.

You should have brakes at all 4 wheels but you have to adjust them so they all 4 grab. There's a disk for the front and a disk for the rear. Sounds like you need to use your 1.5mm allen on the rear brake to tighten it up a little so it grabs quicker.

[HPI rally racer]

the other question was about my steering..when i turn my wheels, (no throttle) the throttle servo moves a bit causing the car to move..so like say i turn the car left and dont even touch the throttle, the car will get some throttle..i think it is glitching but i do not know how to fix it..as for the drive shaft problem all i need is that damn screw/nut...

[Fluke]

What's your radio gear?check all the connections.

best bet is to borrow another receiver/transmitter to test

[HPI rally racer]

my stupid mistake..forgot to charge the rx batt..anyways i know need the screw that holds the rear drive shaft down..

[Fluke]

Went bashing today.we were like 20+ cars and boy was it fun.here's some pics

me happy :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/a0503790.jpg

the car :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/7817f8b5.jpg

sideways is the only way
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/725772c3.jpg

WOOT!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/2c3bad5e.jpg

woops!stupid t-maxx
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/012bba53.jpg

my favorite pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/8cf79004.jpg

the swift was part of the fun too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/2c31a078.jpg

one word on the cen genesis: its fcuking huge
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/98f4bf1b.jpg

that's all for here.keep up to date with my pics at www.murc.skyblog.com loads of pics coming soon :cool:

[Quinton]

How do you like those tires on your buggy? I saw them pretty cheap somewhere. Thanks

[HPI rally racer]

u shoulda built a jump haha..ive gota great area to run right beside me, ive just got no one to bash with..

[Fluke]

Quinton,the medial pro easy are just great in the loose loamy stuff

HPI wanna jump?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/gaelv/rc/b94832c5.jpg

man i had a great day.especially that special moment where everyone stop running,pass on the beer and just chat.just great moments that make me love this hobby.i love racing but bash sessions are just great


edit:its the first time i use so much 'great' in one post :D

[Karadjas]

Awesome bashing session! I'll be having some of that soon, real soon!

[Quinton]

I don't have the Hyper but I beat the heck out of mine today. LOL Setup a ramp in the back yard. Pull a double backflip with my Savage and almost pulled a flip with the buggy. Broke my wing and the rear shock. Had to really work it over to try and find it's weak points. lol Now I need some new meats that will hook up better in the grass.

[Grant Tokumi]

Sounds like you had an awesome time Fluke. Thats what its all about. Keep it up.

It does seem that I've had more memorable and exciting bashing memories than racing memories over the years.

[Fluke]

quinton: last time i busted both rear shocks.yesterday i had new ones :D
for hooking in the grass look for knob-type tires.big meaty knobs

[Quinton]

Like pro-line badlands?

[Fluke]

yeah

[Karadjas]

Hey Fluke, I may come to Mauritius for a few days in the summer if funds allow. If they do, maybe we can setup another bash session just like that

[Fluke]

sure we can.we bash each sunday but sometimes there's more people and when that happens be prepared to break something (wether a steering link or a limb).i don't race all year long (i have exams...) but if you come around i'll link you to THE rc guy around here.knows all the spots,lhs(if i can qualify those minimarts as such :rolleyes: ) he's also the guy who sells me stuff and quite surprisingly he gets the latest gear before france and usa :D .


one day i'll show you guys pics of the construction yard pics.we don't go often there but you'll see 4-5meters dirt "humps"

[HPI rally racer]

hey guys, i want to do a thourough check on my whole car to make sure everythings all good..any suggestions? imean i will be obviously tightening the screws and all, but i dont even have loctite, which i assume i need..i just want more play time and less wrench time..i believe it is called a setscrew that i was missing so i took the front one off the front drive shaft, hooked it up to the rear driveshaft, my hyper is now 2wd for the time being..any harm done?(sorry for mixed questions)

[Fluke]

no secret recipe in checking the car.disassemble and see if anything is broken.

as for rwd does it actually run like that?

[HPI rally racer]

i have yet to test it out..i dont see why not though..imean thats where most of the power and braking comes from anyways..haha i think i might be able to even pull some wheelies..i think its best i wait though, dont want to reck anything else

[Fluke]

well actually all power will most likely end up in the loose end of the diff and you won't move at all.now you can tighten the front brakes all the way and buy new diff gears :D

better wait.be on the safe side

[eb4flys]

hpi
you will put alot of stress on the remaining diff, not a good idea, to stop anything from turning, if your remaining wheels get stuck then thats when the problems start, just get the set screw and locktite all metal to metal screws and off you go.

[HPI rally racer]

haha thanks guys. woulda done sumthin stupid without u haha

[Fluke]

if you listen to me you'll end un doing something stupid anyway

completely off topic:i bought a tamiya dangun racer from a ladies' shoe store(yeah ladies shoe) for 70 cents:D

i should hang around the girls while shopping more often.i may end up with a tc3 for 10 bucks :D

[HPI rally racer]

hey guys im going to be racing for my first time..heres a look of the track i'll be racing on: http://www3.telus.net/seb/sebs_custom/temp/march17_19/mar_20%20053.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/seb/sebs_custom/temp/march17_19/mar_20%20058.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/seb/sebs_custom/temp/march17_19/mar_20%20064.jpg
the track was just finished up being built..anyways does anyone have any tips for me?? i need some shock oil really bad since my suspension is REALLY soft..i was thinking of getting either 40wt or 50wt, not sure..any suggestions would be greatly appreciated since i am a freshmen to the racing scene. Thanks in advance

[Grant Tokumi]

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated since i am a freshmen to the racing scene.
After many years of racing and observing new racers come and go, my best advice to new racers is kind of obvious, but often overlooked and taken for granted. That advice is "have a reliable vehicle".

That does not mean you need to have all upgrades, bulletproof everything, best most expensive equipment.

It does mean you should be able to start your vehicle consistently at a moments notice everytime you need to start it. I'm sure other racers have seen or experienced not even being able to start a heat because they can't get the car started in time for various reasons. Charge your starter box battery, make sure the start box pegs are lined up for your vehicle properly so you won't have to spend time finding the flywheel, have a reliable engine that can hold its tune, etc.

It also means you should be able to run your vehicle consistently through full tanks without EVER having to stop to fix something, restart the engine, or have to bring it for any reason. In a bashing session, bringing your car in to check things, fix a popped ballcup, stick a loose item back in, to restart the engine after a flameout, etc is no big deal, and can even be considered normal routine. However, in racing environment, those routines are the hidden killers. Anytime you have to stop or bring in your car for any reason means that you've just dropped out of the heat. And you typically only get 3 qualifying heats and then the main. Beginner racing is rough, banging pipes, tangling with other cars, casing jumps. So during your next bash session, run it hard, hit things. If you can run it hard through 3 out of 4 tanks without having to bring the car in for any reason, then you can feel pretty confident that you have a reliable vehicle.

It is not uncommon for me to see a racer not be able to start a single heat throughout the entire day. They may get it onto the track 1 or 2 times, but they break during warm ups before the heat even begins. That is not the kind of racing experience you want to have. I feel for them and can see their frustration. A little more preparation up front can help prevent that and insure you have opportunity to be on the track in that racing environment that is so addicting.

Good luck man!

[Quinton]

Excellent advice man! The challenge with racing is not to HAUL booty as fast as it can go (which is what most people in my league do) but to run it in control and consistently. Try to keep all 4 wheels on the ground and wait for the guys out in front to take a corner too wide or crash.
You may also want to lengthen your fuel line so if you flip and it takes awhile for someone to get to you, then you won't run out of fuel as fast.
I would suggest you guys run some tubing between your lanes at that track.

[HPI rally racer]

thanks guys..i havent really EVER had to stop my buggy in a bashing session unless something mechanical in the rear went wrong..for example the clutch getting screwy, the chassis stiffiner getting wedged into the driveshaft, the set screw on the shaft cup coming off..otherwise it's been good to me, and i know how to tune it..starting it is no problem either as long as i got decent power coming from the battery..our track still can use some improvements but weve got a to do list so right now its a runable state, which is why were having our first club race this saturday. Im honeslty more concerned about losing a screw or sumthing then breaking something because ive got plenty of spare parts but my buggy seems to be losing unlikley things..i'll give u guys the 411 after saturday(grand tokimi, thanks for the long post man. actually will help)

[Quinton]

locktight

[eb4flys]

HPI, good advice from the other guys there, there are other really important things to remember with this hobby also.......it is a hobby we are mostly grown men playing with toy cars, we are never going to cure cancer or save the planet, if it breaks, dont stress laugh at your mistakes, learn by them and just have a whole lot of fun, i have seen guys going crazy with rage swearing and throwing things around, because a wheel came off or a nut came undone, what do they stand to loose from this?,...... Ill tell you what.. respect from the rest of the guys at the track, and when you need that spare part you dont have in your tool box, or you need a pit buddy for a final, you want to have the rest of the guys on your side. enjoy its a great pastime, and you will meet some great people along the way.

[Fluke]

dont stress laugh at your mistakes

unfortunately there will always be someone who sees a race as a life or death affair

[kawasakirider]

Hey guys guess what, I was driving my h7 the other day and all of a sudden it runs extremely rich and dies. I walk over to it and i can't see what is wrong with the backing plate (looking for air leak) and then i spot it the mid speed needle fell out!! i have ordered one from the lhs hopefully it will be here soon. Will wd40 be ok for temporary aro? because it has been 2 weeks now since i have run it i want to make sure it i ok.

[Dirk Jan]

Two days ago the weather finally became better here in the Netherlands. Reason enough to drive my Hyper 7 Pro at our bash spot:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c281/djcozijnsen/IMG_0033-1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c281/djcozijnsen/IMG_0030-1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c281/djcozijnsen/IMG_0032-1.jpg

[Quinton]

wd40 will be fine to use as ARO ;)

[Karadjas]

My Sirio .27 just arrived. Too bad my digicam is in England with my brother :/

[eb4flys]

wd40 will be fine to use as ARO ;)
No No No never use WD40 as after run oil, you put after run oil in your engine to keep it from rusting up because the fuel we use contains and attracts water, after run oil is made up of different minerals and oils, WD40 is used to clean off oil and lubricate, but it also breaks down any oils left in the engine and will take the coating from the piston, which is there for a reason, sorry to be so passionate about this but, it really is a bad idea, it will also damage the lubrication and the seal in the engine bearings

[Fluke]

traxxas reccomand wd-40...

[Karadjas]

The whole point of using aro when storing an engine is to get rid of the left over fuel and the moisture it attracts. The whole point of using WD40 is to get rid of built-up residue and moisture. Hmmm...

Just make sure you run some lubricant through the engine before starting it.

[Grant Tokumi]

Nice pictures Dirk Jan. Looks like you have a Spektrum system in there.

[HPI rally racer]

k im supposedly racing tomorro but a bearing just came outa my brake pad area and i dunno where it goes..theres 2 bearings on the thingy but where does the 3rd one go?? im confused and scared and i want mommy..haha n e ways it makes a sorta clicking sound when i press the brakes? some help would be GREAT right now

[eb4flys]

you sure it's from your brake, there are only 2 bearings in there and both have a small flange on them, so if is does'nt it is'nt

[eb4flys]

you sure it's from your brake, there are only 2 bearings in there and both have a small flange on them, so if is does'nt it is'nt

[nitro_n00b]

the lubrication is while the engine is running. if lube is still left in the engine afterwards, it will rust. rust is bad. wd40 is good.

[Joost]

Nice pictures Dirk Jan. Looks like you have a Spektrum system in there.

Nope, he has a hitec agressor crx :)

[HPI rally racer]

haha it seems to me that the bearing is an extra one and doesnt musta just got in there somehow..thanks for the quick replys...im gunna be off to race soon, wish me luck haha PEACE!