View Full Version : Hello guys (where to buy first Gas r/c?) new to all of this
sebhitman
10-11-2005, 07:21 AM
hello guys!
I am new to this board & this passion of r/c cars
well i was always passionate when a kid
but now i looked at it still at 20 yrs old & i said wow I wanna have one still heheh:)
& when i see those Crazy 60mph + one it ain't for kids:P
so i was wondering Where is the best place to buy one???
I want a nitro one with 60mph at least or this 73. something mph:)
those look crazy!!
do they only take Nitro gas???
it's not real car gas right?
or is it the same principle as everything gas working around the house you need to mix it with oil so thats why nitro makes it's own or it's really specific??
explain me that point please
thanks!!!
TBone77
10-11-2005, 07:57 AM
The best way to learn about the gas (nitro) cars is to just start searching the nitro forums for answers to questions you may have. The best place to buy them, after you have a good idea of what you're really looking for, is a hobby shop in your area. Try to locate one who has a guy (or girl) who has experience with nitro since you'll most likely need help tuning your first engine.
The engines take "nitro", or nitromethane fuel. It's a combination fuel/lubricant, so you don't need to mix in your own oil.
I'd recommend the following forum searches:
- on road nitro
- engine tuning
- glow plugs
- engine maintenance
There are also a lot of archived tech articles that you can get to from rccaraction.com. There are also several nitro magazines, like R/C Nitro (shocking, I know), that are pretty helpful.
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Another good resource would be a track that runs nitro cars. See what people are running. Get a sense for the sound, smell, and power. Once you see what these things can do, you may not be so quick to grab one that goes Mach 1 ;) .
shadowghost1
10-11-2005, 08:37 AM
I suggest this book http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFMW8&P=0 and you can buy them at Towerhobbies.com or hobbypeople.net The cars you are speaking of are the Cen cars and the Schumacher cars, they are very fast and also very fragile at those speeds. The nitro engine is very tricky and requires alot of tuning and maintanance, but they are practically dummy proof if you read your manuals and watch the videos (if they come with it).
Learn all you can about glow plugs and high/low needle settings. Ask as many questions as you want and thier will be many people who will offer advice and then thier will be some that say "Search for it", but we are all here to help. Many people call themselves experts but we all learn new stuff everyday when we run our cars or trucks. My best advice is to take your time when researching what cars is best for you, determine what you plan on doing with it and see if there are hobby shops in your area that support the car you choose (just makes it easier if you break something).
cheerwhiner
10-11-2005, 12:48 PM
Stop by the hobby shop on a weekday afternoon, they usually are not busy then. I run an LHS and when its slow I'll talk to you until you want ME to stop about whats out there. But do take notice of what parts are available. You should be OK with anything from Team Associated, Team Los, HPI or Traxxas as those are the big 4.
sebhitman
10-11-2005, 12:57 PM
alright i thank you all big time
i am from montreal i think we have 1 or 2 ... shops
not sure
then again should i try to buy one ebay (like already setup? & learn by it???
let me know about that
cheerwhiner
10-11-2005, 01:01 PM
well you could get it from ebay. But in general not a good idea to buy used NITRO as your first car- if there are any problems you will not be as faimiliar with how to fix the problems. I'm referring to the engine. Used engines are never a guarentee. I would approach it this way:
IF it is a good deal to get a car on Ebay and the engine is listed as running and fine, determine if the same price of the auction is still worth it without an engine. This way if the engine is not good, well you didn't spend much and have a good chassis (and radio if its included and any other spares).
Buying new on ebay will usually not save you money. Get it new from Stormerhobbies or Tower or Horizon.com, etc. However I must advise that going to a hobby shop is the best way to go.
A hobby shop is easier to deal with and will help you set up the car. They can tune it and show you how.
TBone77
10-11-2005, 01:16 PM
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I'm with him ^ . I wouldn't buy a used ANYTHING (R/C related, that is) off of ebay until you feel comfortable with the hobby in general. Many times you're just buying someone else's problems. If you know how to identify and remedy those problems, then there are some great deals to be had. If you can't, however, then you'll be pulling your hair out and wasting a lot of money.
cheerwhiner
10-11-2005, 01:31 PM
you said exactly what i was trying to say but much better. once you know more getting used stuff is no big deal. You can fix it or find another use for it.
sebhitman
10-11-2005, 02:29 PM
so i shouldnt buy it directly from ebay a already builded one... is no good....
so i should buy a unpainted one or??
Oh ok........ i see.... but they was kit suposly brand new
is it hard to play (setup) a R/C plane or (R/C gas car motor???)
what are the settings that needs to be done to it?? let me know
i wonder what is to be done its so tiny & it seems challenging
i think i wanna do it myself
let me know
(Inside car / plane spy camera)
how can you record a video????
is there some using Sd flash card??
or built in memory for at least 6 mins or so .
i found spy cams cheap where i work but... i was wondering how can i take the image i dont have a pc or laptop near since ill be racing it to the street & i dont own a laptop
by the way
thanks you guys are Really helpful! it seems like a good community!
TBone77
10-11-2005, 03:16 PM
Building a kit is not difficult if you're mechanically inclined and/or can follow technical instructions. It also requires that you be a bit of a perfectionist, at least in my opinion. There are oftentimes steps that are quite tedius, but if not done properly, your car will not perform optimally.
The setup of the car (post-build tweaks, like suspension positioning, tire selection, gearing, etc) is a science, but a lot of fun (at least I think so). There is much reward to be had by experimenting with various setups and understanding why certain changes had the effects they had.
If you decide to go the nitro route, you'll need to learn about engine tuning, and this requires some patience. Improperly tuning your engine can burn it up, but there is a lot of good information in the manual and on these forums (and again, your local hobby shop and track) that can make it a relatively painless process.
I think what's really important at this point is for you to identify what your goals are. Do you want to race at all? Are you only primarily interested in performing speed tests (nothing wrong with that... just be aware of the risks to your surroundings and your wallet)?
I would recommend you definitely buy your first vehicle from the LHS, but make sure they are willing and know how to help you tune the vehicle. If they aren't and no other shop is available, you may as well just buy online.
For a first nitro vehicle, you may want to go with something simple to maintain and tune like a 2wd stadium truck. Less moving parts, easy to diassemble generally and the engines can be easier to tune than big blocks. an RC10GT, Losi XXXNT, or even the duratrax vehicle would be good choices with the duratrax one having a warranty and very powerful engine in it. THe Losi will have the best electronics of the bunch.
Make sure and buy a failsafe unit and a real nimh receiver pack for piece of mind.
I did the nitro thing just recently with an LST, and it is very different than electric, tuning the engine is the hardest part. Knowing what to do extra.
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