SS vs. Sphere. Why?

[cwginkc]

Why couldn't RCCA just wait a month and put the new GTB in the review?Nobody cares about the SS anymore. Wondering what others opinions are regarding this pointless shootout.

[BlueRacer]

Why couldn't RCCA just wait a month and put the new GTB in the review?

Gives them material for another shootout. SS vs. Sphere vs. GTB. :p

[LasagnaCat]

The SS5800 still serves a purpose, I'd hardly say that "nobody cares."

If you run mod, "wouldn't care" about stock.

If you run stock, you "wouldn't care" about mod.

If you bash, you "wouldn't care" about racing, and so on.

*YOU* may not care, but there's still a market for the product. Not everyone *needs* the newest, fastest, thing going. As far as why it's in the mag, this is essentially a male version of Cosmo - take out all the ads and look at the amount of actual quality content you have left. ;)

[1822]

I think it's a valid comparison. The SS is their most popular brushless. Besides, when was the last time that Novak delivered something when they promised?! Hah! We waited for TWO YEARS to get their brushless motor after they announced it. Do'nt get me wrong, I like Novak stuff, but I wouldn't wait for them to deliver a new motor to do an article. You might die before you actually get it. ;) (Just kidding Charlie - don't get your panties in a bunch!)

[cwginkc]

Sorry, wasn't meaning to be bash on the SS. I think it's a great product. It just seems like a waste of space in RCCA to pit a 3 year old system (I know it has been upgraded recently, but still essentially the same) against a brand new system. Especially when they could have delayed 4 weeks and put the GTB in the story. The GTB was even available about 1.5 weeks before the new issue came out. This is a RCCA slam!

[elcid4300]

Especially when they could have delayed 4 weeks and put the GTB in the story. The GTB was even available about 1.5 weeks before the new issue came out. This is a RCCA slam!


Just so you know magazines can't change direction at the drop of a hat. Articles (and the magazines themselves) are planned well in advance (months) so to "just delay something four weeks" is deadline suicide. The fact that the GTB was available 1.5 weeks before the new issue came out means nothing, do you really think that it takes a couple of weeks to produce a magazine? More than likely, a production version of the GTB was unavailable (remember this article wasn't written 3 weeks ago). I think that sometimes people forget (or just don't know) how much work and man hours it takes to put a magazine out. Either way, the SS that "nobody cares about" , is still a VERY popular unit and held it's own against the Sphere, so I would think the comparison is pretty valid. It's not like they compared a brushless motor against a closed endbell silver can Mabuchi.

[btsai4]

Could someone list out the basic differences of the GTB vs the SS?

[bigair78]

What issue? This month?

[crazy1]

GTB vs SS vs SS+


DRAG BREAK
GTB has great drag break.

SS NO drag break to speak of

SS+ is supposed to have drag break but I do not own one so can not tell you how good it is. From what I have observed it is a lot better than the SS.




2400 rpm mode
GTB NO.

SS yes

SS+ yes




Can run brushed motor

GTB YES

SS NO

SS+ YES



Gets hot

GTB NO. The GTB Stays just above the temputure of the sourounding air in my T4 with the 6.5 motor.

SS+ Yes. From the ones I have felt when looking at ones owned by other drivers it gets hot like the SS.

SS YES




Case

GTB The case is very sturdy. Looks like it will last a long time with out dirt getting into it.

SS+ Same case as the SS.

SS I have had three differnt cases on mine. The first was ok but not dirt proof. The seconed one did not close correctly when it came back from Novak. The boards moved around inside of it. With a zip tie to hold the case closed it lasted for almost a year with at least 15 packs a week run through it. Often it was more like 20 to 25 packs a week. The last case is working just fine in my B4 right now.




Smoooothness and punch

GTB is very smoooth in the way it ressponds to the gas and break. Punch can be adjusted with minimum drive. The GTB has better FET's and more of them than the SS and SS+ to be able to be smoother.

SS+ Again I do not own one but from what I have observed it is like the SS when you pull the triger for gas. A lot of punch at the low end. Smooth but defently not like a high end speed control. More like a mid range speed control. Punch can be adjusted with minimum drive.

SS A lot of punch at the low end. Smooth but defently not like a high end speed control. More like a mid range speed control.




How low can you go?

GTB 5.5 brushless for now. It is as low turn as sensored brushless you can buy right now. Rummor has it lower turns will be released and the GTB will be able to handle them. There is no limit for brushed motors.

SS+ 8.5 (SS5800) brushless. 12 turn brushed

SS 8.5 (SS5800) brushless. NO brushed motor of any kind.

The GTB is a better unit all the way around for racing. If you are an experianced racer and can tell the differnce between a low end speed control and the feel of a high end speed control then the GTB will make a major differance to you over the SS+. In the back yard the SS and SS+ will do just fine. The GTB with the 5.5 and 6.5 can be uncontrolably fast. An uncontrolable R/C is no fun. I have been able to drive a Sphear and Neo combo. It seems to feel about like the GTB in the few times I have been able to drive it. The Neo motor is way faster than the 5800. But then again the 6.5 seems to have a little top end over it. The problem is it takes a long straight a way for you to be able to tell the differrence between the Neo and 6.5. It is very hard to put all that power to use in a T4. I do not know about on road though. Both are way faster than the 5800.

I do not under stand why they called it a draw in the magazine. Between the GTB and Sphear. YES. SS+ and Sphear. No way. It was like compareing a T3 to a MF2. Or a TA02 to an new TC4. All very good stuff in their day but the new stuff in these cases is better. New stuff is not always better than the old.