Anyone ever use Nitrous Oxide?

[outsider]

On their Nitro car? You can have a 3rd channel control the valve. Or would it just blow the head off the engine?

[Distro]

The engine would blow up.

[paxil]

if it even made it to the engine. and IF it did it would blow as soon as it touched the glow plug

[Throtl Hapie]

If the tank blew up, you can say goodbye not only to your engine, but to the entire car.

A 15 pound bottle blew up once in the trunk of some Nissan Maxima (I saw some article online a long time ago). The entire rear of the car was destroyed, and the garage door was blown out.

[Serius Black]

The bottle in the Nissan Maxima blowing up has been ruled the fault of the owner, last I heard. He apparently made a couple of mistakes during the installation. The manufacturer found that the safety valve had been modified, and the bottle warmer was wired in to a constant power source, meaning it was always on.
The pressure gauge read somewhere around 3000psi when it blew, the safety valves were designed to release pressure at a much lower level from the factory. The pressure of the explosion actually forced the trunk lid of the Maxima through his garage door, and blew the windows out of the car that was parked next to his in the garage. The exhaust tips were smashed flat, since the blast forced the rear of the car to hit the ground.
There are many misconceptions about nitrous, being dangerously explosive is one of them. And it's not going to cause your little nitro burning two-stroke engine to literally "blow up". You may ruin a rod, piston or sleeve, and foul a bunch of plugs, but don't expect a big fireworks display.
If you've got your engine properly tuned, with the right amount of nitrous, at the right time in the powerband, you should be able to do it. I don't see that it would be an advantage on an already nitro burning engine, since it would essentially just be severely leaning the mixture.
Now, on a 1/5th or 1/4th scale car that burn gasoline, I can see where there'd be an advantage.

[Throtl Hapie]

Well, you just put me in my place! :D

[jeepinator]

NOX in a nitro ?
My god son, have you heard of 50% ?

Before going all radical with oxidants, try a higher nitromethane content. Higher power outputs will be simpler to attain and much more consistent.

Besides, until some chemist responds to this, I am unsure if NOX will even work. It quite simply may react differently in the fuels RC cars use. Chemistry is some seriously weird stuff ... you just can't tell what would happen.

You just might make grape Jello ! Hehe, that would rule.

[Gokou]

The problem with nitrous is that you have to add more fuel to go with it. In a car, the nitrous plate/atomizer nozzles mix nitrous and additional fuel before delivering them to the motor. In an R/C application, adding more fuel would be pretty difficult. If you didn't, it would make your engine run VERY lean (we all know what happens then...)

Jeep has the right answer. Why mess with nitrous? Go pick up some high nitro fuel. It will have the same effect (lots more oxygen) plus it will be consistent (unlike adding nitrous with a switch) so you can tune the engine for it.

[SteveP]

Hapie - Nitrous Oxide is an inert gas, it doesn't explode. If a nitrous bottle were to explode, ot would only be the result of overfilling to the point of bursting...

I think Serius Black touched on it - it's the result of excesive pressure in the tank, not combustion.

[ 07-28-2001: Message edited by: SteveP ]

[Gokou]

The website with the bottle explosion is: http://www.enhancedhealth.com/nitrousexpress.htm

Go have a gander. Hilarious (well, kind of. good thing no one was hurt.)

Yes, it was installation error. He wired the bottle heater to a constant power source instead of switched. Thus, if he left the bottle heater on and switched the ignition key off, the heater would stay on. Which is what happened. Oops. He claims the pop-off valve failed, which it certainly did. I wonder if it was due to installation error or modification. He claims not, but who knows. Either way, nasty explosion. No the nitrous did not burn; the bottle simply burst from being overpressurized.

[HyReV-R]

Lol, NOS makes me laugh alot... Geez NOS on a nitro car hmmm... Don't think so, major damage. 100 shot NOS in a 2001 WRX, Major speed!!!

[kartrun]

You don't need a 3rd channel for nitro....break up some mothballs(yes,i said mothballs)put some of the pieces in your tank and let them disolve...pure nitro!!This is an old trick that my dad used to do when he was racing micro-midgets back in the day!I tried it once in my shifterkart and its awesome!Can't say if your engine would blow or not so if you try it i wish you luck! ;)

[jeepinator]

That I believe is the old benzine trick. VERY dangerous !
It is a ultra unstable oxidant. It is used in rocket fuel. Further, it is outlawed because of the toxic gasses that are emitted. If the EPA got wind of you doing this they would prolly turn your life upside down. This is really not a joking matter. Sorry to sound critical, but that "trick" is crazy. People have DIED doing that. Seriously.

[kartrun]

I know jeep...thanks for the post!I forgot to mention that part...my bad!It does work and is a SERIOUS matter....its like playing with a loaded gun....it may go off or it may not.....i lived through it and so did my dad but you may not!Sorry i posted it....forget everything i said!

[rc10gt_bb]

No I won't. Now, thanks to you, I am a corrupt little child. :p Just kidding. Sounds dangerous!

[outsider]

I was just thinking that nitrous would let you apply some extra power, lets say, at the end of a race and blow the others away when they thought they were ahead. I know it's dirty and rotten but if they had a sense of humor, could be funny. Also you would definately clear those jumps you had trouble with before ;)

BTW, you guys see those new 4 strokers OS has for 1/8 sized cars? Once they get popular, it'll only be a matter of time until they get Turbo and supercharger hop ups. should be fun.

[1FST2M6]

having run nitrous on my street cars for many years we have toyed with the idea of using old BB-gun CO2 containers and trying to refill them with N2O... but not having the right adapters or the balls to just force it in we kinda droped the idea. but i have seen quite a few show cars with blue painted CO2 carttiges to mock a 1/10 scale nitrous system. the moth ball trick works on 2stroke bikes.. i've got an 00 RM125 that we have balled a few times.. it DOES make a difference... but i've also wasted 2 pistons.. OOPS... glad they're cheap.

[Interstate]

Rocket fuel in RC's??? what's wrong with us!?! j/k Me and acouple of guys have been talking about a 20% nitro main tank to be attached to a splitter, and another tank filled with 40% fuel, to give the engine a boost. We think it will work, with some tweaking, but it would cost plenty, not to mention increased engine wear and extra weight.

[NitroJunky]

here is an old post i started a whil back on nitrous and super chargers. i have nirous yet nothing t open it or a quick open close valve. if you want pictures of the stuff email me. i haent ha the money to finish any thing i dont know when i will have the money

[NitroJunky]

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