Low profile battery bars........

[RH Customs]

I was wondering what are the best low profile battery bars?

Thanks
RH

[ProMatchRacing]

Pro-Match Racing has bich'n bars that are lower profile than deans. http://www.promatchracing.com/battacc.htm#W.S.%20Deans%20Products

[cr250]

Try the Niftech (http://www.niftech.com) bars. Low profile and they readily accept solder.

[rcguy2477]

The Axxis Racing (http://www.axxis-racing.com) battery bars are also very good.

[rcguy2477]

This is the Axxis Bar...
http://axxis-racing.com/images/axxis_batt_bar.jpg

[kschauwe]

Looks like Promatch's Bar:
http://www.promatchracing.com/BICHN1_small.jpg

[RH Customs]

Was going to say the same thing, anyway how tall are either of the bars (in mm) promatch or axxis. Also I was looking as some others are the Orion Bones a lower profile. Also I would like people know I'm not against deans bars,they are just to tall for my XXX-T MF1.

Thanks
RH

[LasagnaCat]

Be aware that there are two different (sizes of) Dean's bars.. the 2.0 and the 3.0, one of which is taller than the other. I can never remember which is which since we don't use those, but I think the 2.0's are the shorter of the pair. Someone please do correct me if I'm off with that.

[cr250]

I run the Niftech 0.040" thick, silver-plated bars in everything from my E-Maxx to my MF XXT. I have absolutely no clearance problems with GP3300 cells.

[RH Customs]

So Cr250,
I Notched the battery tray area so I would not have not have to worry,since I use the deans pro3's and are to tall? Have you had the same clereance issues with the XXX-T? Also are the Trinity Watt barrs a lower profile?

Thanks
RH

[LasagnaCat]

Almost any of the other brushes mentioned (including the Dean's 2.0's) are going to be shorter than the 3.0's you have. If you don't want to spend more $$$ on other bars, take your 3.0's out and carefully flatten them a bit with a hammer or vise or whatnot - problem solved.

[RH Customs]

Cool, I think I will go with the Trinity silver watt bars.

[kschauwe]

I use Trinity Copper Watt Bars. The silver plating won't do anything for you, except it cost more. The difference between dean's 2.0 & 3.0 are that the 3.0's are for batteries that the + button is flat with the top of the Cell, like Sanyo's 3000 & 3300's. So there is no offset built into the 3.0's, like the 2.0's have.

[Pro3/nmt105]

Alot of the smaller matchers including promatch, fukuyama, and apparantly axxis are using the same bar. They're very low profile and they're supposed to be the best out there right now.

[gizmoguy303]

Actually the Axxis bar was designed by the owner a few years ago (4-5, I think) before he had even started the company. I know he sells the bars to a few different outside parties, but I don't know who they are. I can tell you that the Axxis bar was an original design when he designed it.

I don't believe Pro-Match buys from him, but the design is obviously very similar. I don't mean to start a who-copied-who argument. The 3-hole design seems to work very well and I am sure they are all very good bars.

To tell you the truth, just use a bar that you know works well and that will fit in your car. Until you get to the highest level of mod racing you will not notice much of a difference. :)

[cr250]

So Cr250,
I Notched the battery tray area so I would not have not have to worry,since I use the deans pro3's and are to tall? Have you had the same clereance issues with the XXX-T? Also are the Trinity Watt barrs a lower profile?

Thanks
RH
I have not had any clearance problems while using Niftech bars in my XXT. I don't know about the Trinity bars though, never tried them.

[RH Customs]

Well I have, using the Pro 3's from Deans. So I'll try some different brands.

[gizmoguy303]

I have a friend that runs the Trinity bars in his car and he doesn't have any problems. They look kinda thin, though.

[rcguy2477]

I've tried the Trinity bars before, and agree they are a little thin. If you plan on using the bars, shoegoo or some other adhesive is going to be necessary between the cell to keep it together as the Trinity bars cant support the weight of the pack.

[ikraj]

I've tried the Trinity bars before, and agree they are a little thin. If you plan on using the bars, shoegoo or some other adhesive is going to be necessary between the cell to keep it together as the Trinity bars cant support the weight of the pack.

If the bars are thin enough that they cannot support the weight of the pack I wonder how hot they get and how the resistance increases with temperature. The function of a bar has to do several things and the surface area and thickness are very important in determining the overall performance. If the bars are too thin and/or too small they cannot disipate the heat, ergo increasing the resistance and getting hotter, it is an endless loop. Good bars are actually calculated to perform within the size limitations...some do a better job than others, and only you can be the final judge. Just don't be mislead by brands, packaging, etc. Look at the overall quality of the bar.

WxTxH are the deciding factors...

[Rtsbasic]

I have some trinity copper bars, they are paper this in comparison to other bars. Although they do support the weight of the pack (barely). I've been using Pro 3's but have trouble fitting the batteries in the car on some packs, my GP's are fine but some packs end up too wide. They do hold a pack together very well though.

[gizmoguy303]

I just received my AXXIS bars today and I have to say they are extremely nice. I have been using the Deans 3.0 bars since I started racing; these are wider and flatter than the Deans. They are very sleek. :cool:

I will be assembling packs of IB3800's and GP3300's with these bars today, and I'll let you know how well they fit. I will test them in an MF2, which seems to have the tightest battery tray out of all the popular racing kits.

[RH Customs]

Cool deal Gizmo, let us know.

[gizmoguy303]

Here are quick snapshots that I just took so you can get a better idea as to the sleekness of these bars. They are the same thickness as the Deans, but have a lower profile and are much wider.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/gizmoguy303/DSCN2209.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/gizmoguy303/DSCN2208.jpg

[Rtsbasic]

gizmoguy303, do you work for Axxis Racing? I mean nothing by it, just curious because sometimes you talk about Axxis products as "we do this...." then sometimes "I recieved from Axxis...". Just curious.

How long are the Axxis bars? They look a bit longer than the Deans.

Cheers.

[RH Customs]

Cool deal gizmo, that looks like the ticket. Where and how can I purchase some?

[gizmoguy303]

Email me: bobbydoyle@axxis-racing.com

:)

[gizmoguy303]

gizmoguy303, do you work for Axxis Racing? I mean nothing by it, just curious because sometimes you talk about Axxis products as "we do this...." then sometimes "I recieved from Axxis...". Just curious.

How long are the Axxis bars? They look a bit longer than the Deans.

Cheers.

I am a sponsored driver for AXXIS and am doing a lot of graphics work as well. We have been working closely to get AXXIS up and running by August. If you ever cannot get ahold of somebody through the website, you can always email me at the address above and I can help you out.

[gizmoguy303]

According to my calipers, the bars are approximately 1.2" long and 0.33" wide.

[RH Customs]

How tall are the bars on a flat surface mm's or in inches?

RH

[Rtsbasic]

Thanks for the dimensions, I'm in email contact with Isaac sorting out an order for some IB3800 cells and some bars. They do look very similar to some other bars I've seen, but hey I suppose if its the best way to do it more than one company are going to produce them..

Cheers for clearing that up, just a bit confused because I see you make a lot of references to Axxis Racing recently, now I understand the link. Interested to see what you guys come up with in the future.

[gizmoguy303]

How tall are the bars on a flat surface mm's or in inches?

RH

The AXXIS bars are 0.067", compared to the DEANS which are 0.091".

[gizmoguy303]

UPDATE: I assembled packs of GP3700's, IB3800's, and the AXXIS AR3400 cell (which is longer than any of the other cells on the market), and they all fit great in the MF2 tray. They drop right in very easily. :)

[RH Customs]

Sweet. :D