Looking for a solid motor.

[krisI.925]

I have a Speed Gems Extreme motor that I have put about 10 packs thru in my XXX-4 with GP3300 cells with a 17t pinion and stock spur. Last time I ran it I noticed the thing was running pretty poorly. So I took it apart today to find that brushes are toast and the comm has a good amount of wear. Which brings me to the topic. Whats a good motor that will last a little longer with out sacrificing performance. I was thinking of a Chameleon 2 or something. I dont want to spend to much because I will probably buy a brushless set up in the not to distant future.

[gizmoguy303]

A Chameleon 2 will work well, just make sure it's geared right. I would try a 14x2 V2 motor (ie Revolution or Vantage) if you're not competitively racing. More power, less wear. :cool:

[krisI.925]

do those V type endbells last longer than the conventional kind?

[gizmoguy303]

Yup. :D

[TEM]

You can also stick to a lower performance brush. Its gonna be slower, but you are putting less wear on the motor.

[GuyIsDamGood]

The Orion/Peak V2 Motors are good.
The Reedy PT Motors are very good.
-Their Brushes will give you well over 16 - Runs.

[Danno]

Buy a comm lathe . for the price of two mod motors you can pick up a good lathe and make your motors last 4-5 times as long as if you didn`t ever true the commutator.

[krisI.925]

Iv been looking at the price of these V2 motors and they are pretty expensive. I think Im just going to stick with the motors I have now and put that money towards brushless. Thanks for the help tho.

And for the price of a Comm lathe and a good motor I could buy a brushless set up. So I dont think that will ever happen.

[jkerr0043]

If you have brushless in mind, that's how you're probably going to go anyways. V2's were always good for me running off road. Good wear and nice smooth bottom end. But you will still need to get a lathe. The brushes will last you a good 10 runs on a V2, more even if you go to the Enduro, but the comm will still need to be cut every 5 or so runs.

[Cain]

The thing I didn't like with the V2s were how they would hang a brush in certain conditions. With a shaft drive 4wd buggy, that can be a pain to get to the hoods properly. The XXX-4 should be better. a 14 x 2 would work well, I would probably go with the touring version as well as what Orion told me is that you want the 4mm web when you are 10 turn and above and the blue endbell one is 5mm. 9 turns and below you want 5mm.

A 19 turn motor is a good choice too, the Reedy Quag Mag is my favorite right now, too bad I don't have a class for it so mine is just sitting in the box.

Put some Lemans XXX brushes on your motor and you will have great power and the brushes last VERY long.

[highroller]

Any type of motor you use will eventually require maintenance even bashing. Over a period of use it gets dirty, brush wear, comm get pitted and worn. Get in the habit of cleaning motor after a day of use, just spray out with a RC Motor cleaner or an automotive brand of Electric Motor/Contact Cleaner (can be cheaper than RC brands) for lubricating 3in1 or Marvel Mystery Oil are also cheaper alternatives. Inspect the brushes for wear/discoloration, can be cleaned up by spraying a paper towel with cleaner and wiping the face and sides. For the comm purchase a comm cleaning stick, it can remove small pitting and tarnish, but severe wear and pitting may require truing (can be done by LHS or friend) if comm is severely worn buying a replacement armature can be much cheaper (12-30 dollars) and replacing brushes can bring back some of the lost of motor power. To reduce wear in the future use a brush with less silver content and try using a spring of correct tension to reduce brush bounce, modifieds generally need 2 red springs as a starting point (stock silver or black spring may be too light) to a heavier brush like a purple/red or 2 purples depending on motor turns (13 turns and below) and the amount of timing motor is set at.

All this may seem silly but for $5.00 (brushes and spring) and motor can be almost good as new, for about $30 or less for a new armature, brushes, springs you would have the motor good as new.

[John2005]

If you race, there's usually a few guys at the track that will cut your comm for a favor. And if you don't race, you should, it's a freagin blast!