Bogus Help from BB "Know it All's"

[DirtRacinFool]

First, I want to say that I really enjoy RCCA's BB, and helping answer questions that I KNOW the answers too. What kills me, is the amount of people who have to post answers, when they obviously don't have a clue to the correct answer.
Seems to me that some people here are posting just to increase the Number of Posts that they've made. Guys, You Know Who you are.
Its Great that RCCA has set up this BB to Help Fellow RC'ers with their Questions, but, this Bogus help some guys throw out there can turn people off and away from this Wonderful Hobby.
Guys, if you don't really know the proper answer, don't post a reply. Not only does it hurt the person who posted the question, it also makes you look like a twit.
RCCA Employees and Mods, Sorry but I had to post this, its something that really has been bothering me and I felt it needed to be addressed.

DRF

[Andrew the RC man]

i am offended by that, i am not a twit :D

naw j/k, i never give people mean or wrong suggestions to do with there car unless they are really mean(suprisingly rare in this BB) :rolleyes:

also, calling them "know it alls" is a bit too nice. i think "know nothings" suits them beter :D :cool: :p ;)

[ProjectTwin]

Geez, DRF.

There's people of all ages in this hobby. Some of them have a vast amount of experience, some, since they are younger, don't have as much experince. I think what happens when questions are asked, is that everyone answers with what they think is best, or offers their solution. At times it may be wrong, but heck, we're all learning more every day, right?

I know what I do is offer advice or facts based on my experience with the vehicles. does it mean I'm right? Probably not. It's just my point of view.

I hope you don't think I'm trying to bust your chops, DRF, but this reminds me of an old saying..which is the impression I got from your post.

"I wish people that think they know it all would shut up and listen to those of us that do."

Jason

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: ProjectTwin ]

[Grant Tokumi]

I agree DRF. I've experienced firsthand where wrong information led one person to waste ~$70 to unsuccessfully fix stripping spur gears in his RC10GT. Felt bad for the guy. He had that familiar look that he was about to throw his GT into the garbage can.

I believe the key to dealing with this matter of wrong answers, or people posting for the sake of increasing post #s is for readers to turn on their "information filter". You're not going to be able to eliminate wrong answers, wrong information, or bad advice from this BB, but readers should filter through what people have to say and make their own judgments.

Its doesn't help this BB with those "Know It Alls" babbling away and adding garbage and wrong info. You see it on this board, you see it in the stores, you see it at the track. However, some people are truly sincere in their answers, even though some might not be correct. I won't discourage them from answering based on the best of their knowledge, otherwise you'll end up like corporate America, "I have to consult with my lawyer and the commitee before I reveal what piece will eliminate stripping spur gears". But I do share your frustrations when I see wrong or misleading information.

[Railman]

Dirt Racin, I think it's a noble thing to try & bring this issue to a head, but it's a shame it just won't have the effect your looking for. The only thing that would help qualify info was the member rating system & we all know what happened to that. The guys your referring to due not have enough of a clue to know that they don't know everything.
For some that will only come with making lots of mistakes & age. I do wish that opinions could be given with backup reasoning, without someone getting nasty & calling your ideas stupid...right Andrew? :D

I guess I'm laying it on the line here though in assuming that Dirt Racin's comment wasn't directed at me :rolleyes:

[krayzie]

I also dont like when a person will ask about a certain car or truck (ex.. T-maxx cause this happens all the time with them)they will ask for info about that car and people wil repliy with stuff like dont get a T-maxx,T-maxx's stink get an MP,,etc...i think you should answer the question in the post..the person asked for info about the t-maxx, so give info about the t-maxx,dont tell the person not to get one and get something else!!!!ok im done just had to speak my mind..

Krayzie http://www.plauder-smilies.de/tales/grim.gif

[R/C Homie]

I agree with project twin. I like to help people out as much as i can with the experiences i'v had, i try to answer questions to the best of my knoledge and sometimes it may be wrong but i will admit when i'm wrong if corrected by someone. my .02

[Gutter Ball]

I forget the old proverb about taking stuff with a grain of salt, but you can't believe everything you read on the net! If you went to a health site and saw that someone replied to a question with "Drink a gallon of pig urine a day for a week and you'll be cured of *******" you wouldn't try it without a little more research now would you? I know that's an extreme example :cool:, but it's similar. I'm sure most people give advice based on their own experiences and of course it's not always going to work for someone else. If someone posts a question and then tries the very first suggestion (which turns out to be wrong or not quite applicable to the situation), then I have to say it's their own fault because maybe the third post would have warned them about it. Post count, member status etc don't mean a thing to some people. Now some people might hesitate to post a suggestion because they'll be afraid it's wrong and get slammed or be accused of trying to up their post count. Who says there's only ONE right answer to any question and who says what you "KNOW" to be the right answer is indeed the right answer??? The answer you think is way off COULD be right!! But still, you can't blindly believe everything you read or hear....my $0.02

[DirtRacinFool]

First Off, I never said Newbies shouldn't post answers to questions that they may have experiance with. Thats what this BB is all about, helping the other guy.
Its the guys who post, knowing they're answer is wrong, slamming products (like krayzie commented about), or posting, just to boost the number of posts they've made, thats bothering me. If it doesn't bother you, then more power to you. We all have Peeves, and this is one of mine.
Its True that my Complaint will not Fix the problem, thats a given, but maybe it will get a few of these guys to back off a bit and realize that what they do does more harm then good. :rolleyes:

[bullfrog]

yea krazie i HATE it when people do that one time i asked how good the electric stampede was and they said no dont get that get a rustler. i was like hello i didnt ask about the rustler i asked about the pede and no i dont want a rustler. just some people can get so stuck up in these boards infact one time i got so mad i almost didnt come back.

[Gabe]

It is bad that some people who dont know what or how & have diarea of the mouth (typing).
The best help is from older LOCAL racers...
(I'm a whooping 25 but have been in R/C scince 1990 I've broke a few parts in my day)
Even if you don't race find a track localy and ask some questions...
R/C folks are usualy some of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
Even us "Experenced Racers" were novice once too...
:confused:

[ 08-19-2001: Message edited by: G-RC ]

[TeamCarnage]

Like most problems, a little research goes a looong way. I feel that I've been lucky with the advice I've recieved with various probs. The beauty of an active board is within a day you usually have at least several answers.Anybody who scans the various boards will see who can put you on the right track.I'm not just going by the # of post. The guys I take notice of usually start with "When my .... broke,I did this...If guys can relate to specific problems with direct answers I'm happy.

[jeepinator]

DirtRacinFool, can you give us (or me at least) some examples ?
I think I understand you, but your accusations are really quite broad and cover many possible issues ...

[StephenB]

I know what he's talking about; I'm sure you've all seen threads that have babble on them (joking or not) when an answer has nothing to do with the question.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have to read through all of that stuff, but honestly none of us have the time to moderate/edit posts like that to keep useless babble off threads. It's up to you guys on some occasions to police yourselves. Rather than saying ANYTHING just to be saying/posting something, it might help to stop & think of something RC related that might be constructive. And although I don't have a specific example for you Jeep, I think if you look through some posts you'll find more than enough instances!

It's one thing to offer genuine help & be incorrect; it's another to post junk just to be posting. I believe that's what Dirt is referring to.

[Gutter Ball]

Dirt: I wasn't directly slamming you in any way, hope you didn't take it that way. I agree with you that people who deliberately post incorrect information are a pain in the rears, which is why you shouldn't believe everything that's posted. I haven't come across anything like that here...yet! :eek:

[jeepinator]

Would this be an example:

thread starter: "How should I gear my B3 when using a 12 triple ?"

reponder: "I have no idea, but you should get a Losi. Losi's rule! :) "

If this is what you mean, I totally agree. That dang response should get blasted.

But, if you are refering to the threads that kinda alter course and go OT, well that is life. Yes, not ideal, but we are all not here for clinical information. I am here just as much for entertainement, so this type of stuff does not bother me, even on my own questions.
What can you do though ? I guess you have done the only thing you can do: raise awareness.

For that, I thank you :p

[HauntedMyst]

DirtFool,
You need to go in the "my profile" and then to the preferences and click the "no nonsense" button. That should pretty much filter out the goofy posts.

BTW, never buy Trinity.

[jeepinator]

hehehe, HM has been drinking again ;)

I can only wish for such a feature !

[rims']

wow someone doesnt get out much. so do you tell people that you talk to to shut up because they go a little off course from what you are talking about?This bb. is to help people but is also for people to talk with each other and socialize. i mean this has nothing to do with the general discussion and it should be moved to off topic but i'm not gonna yell at you for that chill out man! :cool:

[DirtRacinFool]

StephenB, you hit it on the head, you do know what i'm talking about. :D

Jeep, yes your example shows a part of it. ;)

warhawk51, Dude, can you say PROZAC :eek:

[ 08-20-2001: Message edited by: DirtRacinFool ]

[TC3Racer]

another thing that relates to all of this is people who dont read all the responses from the post. like someone asks a question and it is answered and someone else comes along and answers it again. unless that other person has something else to put in he should read all the previous responses the other people posted to that answer. and if you do this, you can most likely correct a person who has given mislead information.

[cjlandry]

My favorite is when someone gives a solution that worked for them, possibly more than once, and another comes right behind with "DO NOT DO THAT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!", making the other guy appear stupid.

A little diplomacy can go a long way. An explanation of why doing such-and-such would be bad, without ridiculing the other guy, would be very helpful.

As we say here in the South: "There's more than one way to skin a cat." ;)

Excuse me. I need to go skin some cats now. Any tips? :D :eek:

[ 08-20-2001: Message edited by: cjlandry ]

[HauntedMyst]

You know what I hate? When you are driving along on a sunny day and you come to a stop and look out the window and you see some guy in his nose up to his elbow just picking away and you start yelling and then you realize you are looking in the side view mirror and there you are looking the fool yelling at no one with your finger in your nose.

[DerekB]

I think we should be happy that we have a BB where you can get a lot of useful information. I wouldn't like it if the BB was totally void of personality. Yes, people will always post what they feel is better and almost always state that whatever car they have is the best and everything else is a waste of time. That's part of this hobby, bragging and making up information. :p

[HauntedMyst]

Amen to that! And by gosh, one day I'll get some imbecile to clue his hands together with CA!

[Usagi]

WOW have you finally found this out??????? :o

[chance]

Ouch, I'm typing with my nose because my hands are glued together, and then I had to scratch....

[Coconut]

Advice here is like any other:some good some not so good. That's why its good to get so many opinions;because thats all they are.

[rims']

cocoanut has it dead on ;)

[Usagi]

It all depends on the person, some are just starting and think they are Known It Alls, and there are the seasoned racers that do know. Ok you know this before I typed it.
But its so easy to tell they two apart. :D

[rims']

yeah you dam stait!!!

[RC10GTMark]

What pisses me off...

If you know this post isn't going to have any effect, besides raise post counts, which bothers you so much, then why did you post it?

Post count means nothing, it just shows how long you have been here, or how frequent you come. That really doesn't mean much.

You really had no reason to post this. If the know it alls know so much, then let them post what info they think is right, and they will soon learn what is right and wrong.

As for an example you mentioned, something about a guy spending 70 bucks on spur gears on a GT. Im sorry but your pretty dumb to spend 70 bucks tryin to fix a stripped spur, it can only be a few things, and to have it reoccur 70 dollars worth of times, and not look for different advice is stupidity on that individuals side.

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Mark ]

[rims']

wow mark is like a hippi he believes in his way and i'm gonna have to agree with him......that was really stupid!!!!!