Tamiya TA-05 Forum

[SerpentKing101]

Was checking the new releases on Tamiya and seen the TA-05 as one of em. Guess this is the place to spread some hype until it hits the shelves on hobby shops around the world.
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The TA-05 is supposedly going to be realeased with a Ferrari F430 body (looks similar to 360 modena).

[TRF TT-01]

The TA-05 is coming out on June 29 for Japan. There a link that tell you basic information on it:
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news0505/news1.htm

You need to know Japanese or use a translator.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Kinda early for this thread but oh well :p

[TRF TT-01]

Check this out!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/tamiya_ta05.jpg


The news about Tamiya's release of their TA05 has been circulating for some time and so far only information in Japanese has been available, even on English speaking websites. We've however managed to bring you details, in English of course, about the new TA05 along with a long list of optional parts as well. Tamiya launches the TA05 as a high performance racing car, releasing it with a Ferrari F430 body for sure put's the TA05 up front when it comes to looks.



The TA05 is finally here, the newest chassis, a 2 belt driven 4WD. Fresh from its multiple victories at IFMAR, the world champion TRF team has analyzed a huge amount of feedback from various drivers, races and machines, distilling it all into a single “balanced” package, now available to R/C fans everywhere.



It's the successor to the popular TA04 chassis, and the TA05 has been designed with an eye towards the twin goals of "Easy Driving and Easy Maintenance".
The key feature of this chassis is the innovative transmission system which incorporates two isometric drive belts mounted front and rear, interlocking with tooth surfaced center pulley this design greatly reduces drive resistance to achieve better transmission efficiency at high speeds.
The chassis structure has been redesigned for optimum balance, locating the motor in center-left and battery in center-right position.
Center shaft, drive belts and spur gear have also been repositioned for improved balance.
Suspension is the same durable and reliable system found on the TA04 chassis.
Several features make this chassis wonderfully easy to perform maintenance on, such as the single deck frame and one-piece motor mount.
Front and rear bulkheads are identical and feature 2-piece detachable design. New-style mount allows diff to be removed without detaching stabilizers. Includes spur gear cover.



- First TA05 release is the sleek and stylish Ferrari F430 - including wing
- Full ball bearing configuration for maximum efficiency
- Includes F/R ball diff and CVA dampers
- Includes Type 540 motor



Second TA05 chassis based release is the Mercedes-Benz C-Class DTM 2004. Nothing mixes class with high-powered racing as well as this European sportscar.


There were 4 differently colored AMG Mercedes C-Class cars competing in the 2004 German Touring Car Masters Championship, DTM-Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft. Former F-1 Driver Jean Alesi’s metallic silver No. 8 was noticeable by the strikingly large AMG logos on the hood and sides. Alesi put in a strong performance in his third season in the German DTM, coming in 7th in the drivers’ championship. Mercedes came in second in the manufacturers’ championship, losing first place to rival Audi by a mere 4 points.



Along with the release of the TA05 a long list of optional and spare parts are being released as well, these parts include:


49360 TA05 Titanium Screw Set
Tamiya is offering this Titanium Screw Set for sale at the same time as the TA05 chassis so that users may install titanium screws when first building TA05.


53833 TA05 Front One-Way Unit
Considered indispensable for 1/10 electric R/C cars, this unit for the TA05 chassis features large capacity one-way bearing. Advanced design improves cornering speed and power transmission during acceleration.


53841 TA05 Center One-Way Set
This set provides an aluminum one-way pulley and spur holder for use with TA05 drive system. Parts may be replaced easily when broken or worn out, greatly reducing running costs. Compatible Chassis: TA05, TRF415 (excluding MS)
Set includes:

- OWC spur gear holder x 1
- Center one-way pulley x 1
- Crescent ring x 2
- TRF415 9x0.5mm plastic spacer x 2
- 4x10x0.5mm Washer (12300011-000R0) x 1
- 4x6x0.1mm Washer (adjustable) x 6


53842 TA05 Stabilizer Set (F & R)
3 kinds of front and rear stabilizer rods allow for wide variety of settings to suit different track conditions.
Set includes:

- TB Evolution IV front stabilizer rod (red, yellow, blue) x 1each
- TRF415 rear stabilizer rod (red, yellow, blue) x 1each
- 5mm adjuster (S) x 2
- RCC TA04-PRO stabilizer (steel) x 4
- Stabilizer ball connector x 3
- 2.6x10mm cap screw x 2
- 3x3 grub screw (W point, chromate) x 8


53843 TA05 Aramid Drive Belt
Low friction drive belt for the TA05 chassis features aramid fiber core. Aramid belt is softer and more flexible than kit-included belt, lessening rotation loss.


53844 TA05 Aluminum Transponder Stay
Aluminum transponder stay uses special snap pins to attach laterally to chassis.
Set includes:

- Aluminum transponder stay x 1
- Special snap pin x 2
- 3x12 octagonal button head screw x 1


53845 TA05 Front Carbon Damper Stay
3mm Thick carbon damper stay improves durability and operation efficiency. Perfect for use with reversible suspension system.


53846 TA05 Rear Carbon Damper Stay
3mm Thick carbon damper stay improves durability and operation efficiency. Perfect for use with reversible suspension system.


53847 TA05 46mm Assembly Universal Shaft (2 Pcs.)
Packaging the popular assembly universal shaft with the perfect combination of parts for use with the TA05 chassis. Compatible Chassis: TA05, TRF415 (excluding MS). Must use F201 50mm long swing shaft to use with reversible suspension.
Set includes:

- 46mm Assembly universal swing shaft (steel) x 2
- Cross spider x 2
- Wheel axle x 2
- 2x9.8mm Needle roller pin x 2
- Hexagonal wrench (small) x 2


53848 TA05 Aluminum Racing Steering Set
Use of aluminum steering arm and linkage plate with press fit ball bearings improves durability, ensures stable running and realizes smooth and precise control and handling.
Set includes:

- Steering arm (L) x 1
- Steering arm (R) x 1
- 3x8 mm flat screw (black zinc) x 1
- Aluminum uni-crank post x 2


53849 TA05 High Precision Diff Joint
High precision machine cut polyacetal diff joint achieves smooth diff effect and improves overall road holding and road following performance.
Set includes:

- High precision diff joint A (short) w/ring x 1
- High precision diff joint B (long) w/ring x 1


53850 Titanium Coated Damper Shaft (2 pcs.)
53851 Titanium Coated 46mm Stainless Shaft (2 pcs.). Compatible Chassis: TRF415MS, TB Evolution IV



Spare parts:

51208 TA05 A Parts (Bulkhead)
51209 TA05 M Parts (Damper Stay)
51210 TA05 Drive Belt
51212 TA05 Ball Diff Pulley (36T)
51213 TA05 Center Pulley (16T)
51214 TA05 Center Shaft
51215 TA05 Spur Gear (70T)
51216 TA05 Drive Shaft (2 Pcs.)

[dugrant153]

dang it! I jsut bought a TT01.

Guess I'll just have to save up for a little bit and get my driving skills up before I buy one of these bad boys :)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Holy crap TRF :o that is the best info i have seen so far!!! great awesome job on covering this!!! you da man!!! :D

[TRF TT-01]

I was just looking for TA-05 on the internet and I found that. I am a BIG Tamiya fan so I always look for their news on the internet.

[TRF TT-01]

More pictures guys!! They are from a Japanese Magazine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/tamiya_ta051.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/tamiya_ta052.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/tamiya_ta053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/tamiya_ta054.jpg

[dugrant153]

Wow, that is NICE.
now that's a REAL mid-engine layout. still, look at those wires just hanging out at the side... hehehe... seems like the minute you make a hard turn, your motor will fall out :P

I still miss the days of the TA03F, though. Front engined car.... nice....

[cheerwhiner]

eh eh allllllllllrigggggght (quagmire)

its like my ta04 and tc4 had a baby!

[TRF Drive Hard]

Man that is seriously nice! definitely gots some evo4 use in it like the foam bumper brace and mount... what a mix... im lovin it!!!

[KoE]

thought tamiya would put alu bulkhead on or at least modify the gear cover a bit :o the one on 04 has the affinity for pebbles :mad:

[TRF Drive Hard]

HAHA, where you running your 04's? in gravel? :p

[jackhammer74]

I've always have ran my 04 in prepared surfaces and still have had to deal with pebbles in there every now and again, I actually fashioned a small cover out of lexan, no problems since.

I think cheerwhiner is right, it does like the product of 04 - TC4 fornication.

All kidding aside it looks nice, but I think I'll wait till the R comes out.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Why wait for the R when you can have fun making an R :D

[TRF TT-01]

That's true but it cost more if you buy a normal TA-05 and upgrade it.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Thats the fun part...beating tamiya to it :D

[TRF TT-01]

I upgrade my TT-01 fully before the TT-01R comes out, and my car have even more options on it. It's fun when you do that. If I am getting the TA-05, I will get the R version.

[dugrant153]

but it's soooo expensive to go that route!

[TRF Drive Hard]

Not if you got deep pockets, right cuz? :D

[KoE]

flame me ted LOL ... but i think those rclab dudes would have their last laugh :p :p

[TRF Drive Hard]

Last laugh eh? :p

[minijosh]

Hmm not another TA series car. Looks like I need to save up again.

[TRF TT-01]

Check this out!! A tuned-up TA-05:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/120.jpg

[TRF TT-01]

More Pictures!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/131.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/133.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/134.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/135.jpg

[Tamiya4ever]

Any word on price? It sure looks great. :D

[InitialVelocity]

Glad they stuck with the suspension. I love that design.

[microrcdude]

lol i knew it wouldnt be long till IV was in this thread.

[minijosh]

I'm in love again. Stupid Tamiya making me buy all their kits.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well i saw it at the RCX... very sweet indeed!

[minijosh]

Did you take any photos Ted? If not, then I'm going to have demote you from TRF Drive Hard to TA03 Drive Hard. You must be slipping brother. How could you not hook up a brother?

[TRF Drive Hard]

Man i forgot to ask my brother for his digicam :(

[microrcdude]

isnt he HPI_DRIVE_HARD lately? i think that savage is his main focus

but wait, that didnt even run, so shouldnt your name be NOT_DRIVIN_HARD?

[InitialVelocity]

AHAHAA...AHHa..ha... @ NOT_DRIVIN_HARD

[TRF Drive Hard]

Ya know guys, laugh at all you want... i couldnt give a rats ass what you guys think...

[TEM]

Hey TRF-DH, don't forget me!!! Just wait until I get involved in the name calling! :D


Ah... TRF's a good guy, leave him alone!...

[microrcdude]

Yeah, i know, him and i are cool. He used to pick on me, now i pick on him. Weird how that works huh?

[puzzlecolor]

how long we must wait for this kit to come out?

another question...how long we must wait for TA05 R...yes...R version... :)

[TRF TT-01]

It comes out at the at of June. You don't need to know about the "R" when the normal TA05 isn't out yet.

[puzzlecolor]

ouwh...okie...

actually i just want to know the estimate time till it come out...

:o

[Ziddan Sr.]

More Pictures!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/131.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/133.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/134.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/trfjason/135.jpg

guys, wat is that long turnbuckle between motor and rear bulkhead, some kind of torque rod or gear mesh adjuster t'buckle

[TRF Drive Hard]

Im SOOOOOO in love!

[TRF TT-01]

Have you order yours yet?

[dugrant153]

hmm... looks liked the chassis could flex??

[TRF Drive Hard]

Nothin wrong with a lil flex eh?

[minijosh]

Looks like my xxx-s but the belts are closer to the same size than my one long belt.

[microrcdude]

If the two belts are the same size, thats a real smart idea.

[Student-Driver]

Well, so it comes in two bodies.. Are they prepainted?

[Tamiya4ever]

Tower has the stock status as order pending, at a price of $159.99

[Student-Driver]

Pre-painted or no?

[TRF TT-01]

They come with either the Ferrari F430 or the Mercedes-Benz C-class DTM. Both of them are unpainted.

Also, I don't think there will be no chassis flex because there is a brace connecting the chassis and gearbox like the TB-02.

[Student-Driver]

Do you guys think this car will be highly competitive out of the box compared to other cars of today? If anything I am going to hop-it-up with some trf shocks, and a new GTX

[TRF TT-01]

Tamiya Fans, you must check this out!!!
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/58345ferrarif430/index.htm

[TRF TT-01]

Do you guys think this car will be highly competitive out of the box compared to other cars of today? If anything I am going to hop-it-up with some trf shocks, and a new GTX

Of course this car is competitive. If you upgrade this car, it's going to run crazy!

[Tamiya4ever]

Tamiya Fans, you must check this out!!!
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/58345ferrarif430/index.htm

I am drooling......... :p

[dugrant153]

darn :( guess I better keep my TT01 for a while and upgrade later when this comes out :P

[Student-Driver]

did anyone get one yet?

[shevchenko2000]

I got one :D

[TRF TT-01]

Have you start building? When you finished, tell us about the chassis.

[TheoDR]

How's the performance like? :D

[TheoDR]

Say hello to the missus!!! :D

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/TheoDR/hotbabe600.jpg

[TRF TT-01]

Finish building the car and show us some pictures!

[dugrant153]

no no! don'ts builds it yet!
lets us look at the pppprrrreecccciiiouuussss! [Golem]

[TheoDR]

Ok, I got my titanium screw set for the TA05 as well, good thing I didn't go very far into construction before I got it today!

Assembling the diffs took quite a bit of my patience as the long black screw seemed to not be able to tighten onto the small locknut, but I eventually got it in.

The kit looks (is?) very good. There is no longer a separate bearing assembly to tighten the belts. Now its like XRAY style, with the adjustments made at the diffs' mounts.

All I'm lacking now is a bigger spur gear to run mod motors, so I'm limited to the silvercan for the moment. Mods I got for the car are front and rear carbon shock towers, stabilizer set (f & r), precision diff joint (to fix 2 10mm*0.1 shims at each side between the bearings and diff) and the aramid belts.

The front uprights are off the TRF414M kit, so I didn't see the need to upgrade or change those. If its good enough for Tamiya's racebred car, its good enough for me! :D

[TheoDR]

Finished the car! Installed a 10 turn Trinity Speedgems using the stock 70T spur gear with a 19T pinion. Just couldn't wait to see it get up to speed. Haha!!

Handling is superb, sounds more grunty than the TA04. Am very very satisfied with the 05! :D Here're some pics of the chassis.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/TheoDR/TA05_b.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/TheoDR/TA05.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/TheoDR/TA05_c.jpg

[microrcdude]

oh theo i HATE you! Dang the 05 is one awesome car! Is the chassis nice and solid? Assembly go smoothly?

[TRF TT-01]

Now you made me want to get the TA05 so badly. I will sell my extra EVO4 that I won and use that money to buy this car!

[TheoDR]

oh theo i HATE you! Dang the 05 is one awesome car! Is the chassis nice and solid? Assembly go smoothly?
Haha!!! Yes, the car is awesome! Even my neighbour who's into the r/c hobby (he owns a crazily supercharged M03 Mini that can give 4WD touring cars a run for their money) commented that the handling appears better than the TA04. No doubt thanks largely in part to the very low CG.

Assembly wise is smooth, though you've to be careful to fit the diff housings onto the chassis so that its not out of place before you tighten the screws. If you guys have got the stabilizer kit at the same time as the kit, assemble it while you're going through, it'll save you the trouble of disengaging the suspension arms again later on.

Chassis has a very little bit of flex, which is good. Too stiff and the car will be harder to drive too. The local distributor here in Singapore is having a 20% sale for this month, so the kit drops from SGD$250 to $200!!! GAWD!!! Damn, I bought the kit a day too early! :(

[TheoDR]

Now you made me want to get the TA05 so badly. I will sell my extra EVO4 that I won and use that money to buy this car!
Hahaha, buy buy buy!!!! :D

[TheoDR]

Oh, in the last pic, you can see the cutouts for the spur gear and 2 diffs on the underside of the chassis. Everything's brought down ultra low!

[littlebuddha]

how much is 200 sgd in USD?? also does the car have a metal motor mount? it looks like thick plastic in the pics.

Haha!!! Yes, the car is awesome! Even my neighbour who's into the r/c hobby (he owns a crazily supercharged M03 Mini that can give 4WD touring cars a run for their money) commented that the handling appears better than the TA04. No doubt thanks largely in part to the very low CG.

Assembly wise is smooth, though you've to be careful to fit the diff housings onto the chassis so that its not out of place before you tighten the screws. If you guys have got the stabilizer kit at the same time as the kit, assemble it while you're going through, it'll save you the trouble of disengaging the suspension arms again later on.

Chassis has a very little bit of flex, which is good. Too stiff and the car will be harder to drive too. The local distributor here in Singapore is having a 20% sale for this month, so the kit drops from SGD$250 to $200!!! GAWD!!! Damn, I bought the kit a day too early! :(

[TEM]

I got to test drive a TA05 at the TCS canadian finals this past weekend. The car is fully hopped up. It has everything except for aluminium rear uprights and LW suspension. It was heavy like a TB02 even though it had all the lightweight parts and titanium screws. The plastic chassis IS stiff enough but I don't think more stiffness would do it much harm. I'd like to see a graphite tub for it. The real plus with this car is the smoothness of the drive train thanks to the adjustable diff position that allows plenty of slack to even a brand new belt. CG is perhaps a bit lower but I don't think that's enough to make handling significantly better than a TA04. Remember the balance and weight bias is also different.

It was not my car and not me who set it up so I can't make accurate comments about how well it handles. It did belong to a competent racer and it was setup properly. I drove it for a few laps(just to say I've tried one!), taking it easy cause it wasn't mine. I was running lap times 1-1.5 seconds slower than my TA04, but if it was mine I am confident that lap times will be very similar.

Maybe I sound a little skeptical, but the box stock version really sucks. I'll probably get one or two when TRF versions come out just for running TCS. A TA04 to TA05 upgrade is not really going to help most racers go faster. It certainly wasn't as impressive as going to a TA04 from a TA03. However, it is a car as capable as the racer but will cost a pretty penny to bring the stock kit up to speed(Classic Tamiya money making scheme).

[JimmyMac]

I'll give my results on my TA05. I run a fully hopped up with LW suspension, aluminum rear 0degree uprights, aluminum suspension blocks, oneway, TRF shocks, low friction belts, precision diffs, carbon towers, Ti axles, aluminum steering bellcranks, etc, etc.

I ran the car in Stock class this past weekend at 2 different tracks. I'll say that it is on par with my Yokomo BD and EvoIV. I came to within 3 seconds of my fastest qualifying time set with my Yokomo BD. And this was the first time out with this car! Lap times were pretty consistant too.

Only gripe is how heavy this car is. But it more than makes up for it with it's performance. The drive train is very free. Chassis is well balanced. LW suspension may be a key for it's handling. Anyways, I'm working on ways to reduce some of the weight. I'm gonna build up a spool for this car. This should take off a ton of weight since the oneway is heavy. Gonna run it again this Saturday and go for track record. Plus gonna try to fine tune it. I'm even considering taking it to a big Trophy Race coming up next weekend. We'll just see how it does this weekend. I'll post more results Saturday or Sunday night...

[TheoDR]

how much is 200 sgd in USD?? also does the car have a metal motor mount? it looks like thick plastic in the pics.
The car comes with the stock alu motor mount. Hmmm, it'd cost about $117.

[Vundergah]

Which LW suspension can be used in the TA05? I only see it for the TA04/TB02.

[TheoDR]

Which LW suspension can be used in the TA05? I only see it for the TA04/TB02.
I asked the local Tamiya distributor the last time, he said the reversible suspension for TA04/TB02 can be used on the TA05, but you'd need 48mm universal shafts. Correct me here if I'm wrong everyone!

But I didn't get the suspension kit as its like 3/4 the cost of a TA05 kit!!!

[minijosh]

Yeah it's only worth it if you want to make your car the ultimate money pit. I race and I have never used that kit on my TA04. Why do you want to drive in reverse anyways? ;) Just kidding.

[Dazzler]

Just ordered my TA05 over the net, it should be arriving this week... can hardly wait to get it!!

I ordered some of the option parts as well (like all the CF stays, alu parts)

Quick question: what's this "reversible suspension" thing? I've read about it previous, but what is it? I have some low friction alu dampers from my TA04R, can I mount them on the TA05 or do I need this reversible suspension thing for it?

This one way diff and pulley... are they really worth the money? Haven't bought them yet 'cause I don't really know if handling will really improve. Any hands-on experience here?

Thanks

[Vundergah]

From what I know...the reversible suspension is just a lighter set, that can be reversed (I'm not sure why you'd want to do that, but it is capable of doing that). The one way diff allows faster cornering speeds but no braking, making it more suited to dry tracks than wet tracks.

[rclapcar]

The reversible suspension is lighter than the standard suspension arms and uprights. The reason it's reversible is that each size has the shock holes in slightly different positions. So by reversing the arm you get to have more positions that you'd normally have. The rear upright also have 3 roll center positions on them. The arms are lighter but are significantly more expensive and fragile than the stock arms.

A one way tends to give more steering on low traction tracks. It's a preference thing as some like it and some don't. Only real way of knowing is to try one.

[Jas]

I'm seriously thinking about buying a TA-05 in the very near future, and was wondering will it be noticibly faster than my TT-01, which has nearly all the hop-ups. Given that they would both use the same electronics? I use the TT for bashing/drifting mainly now, and I want a better chassis for indoor racing over winter...

[TEM]

A oneway will kill you on a low traction track! It is meant for high traction. Carries more corner speed but has tendency of off throttle oversteer. It is by no means the hot ticket to make you faster unless you know exactly what you are doing. Do a search on one ways and you'll find lots of info.

Unless you are experienced, I dont recommend the reversible suspension set. It is more fragile. It does however give you more tuning options and can allow more agressive handling. But having said that, it is NOT a necessity. The stock ones are great! Hard arms recommended though.

TA05 vs TT-01 is a very big difference. TA05 has much higher potential, but it will also depend on your skill level. Don't consider it time to upgrade unless you can drive a clean race with the TT-01.

[Dazzler]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll do some more research on that one-way diff, but as it looks now, it's not suitable for me anyway. I drive mostly on low/mid grip surfaces anyway. Didn't have it on my TA04-R Tuned, and handling was great without the one-way.

The online tracking tells me that the package has arrived in Belgium yesterday (coming from HongKong, belgian shops don't have it yet) so I should be getting it any day now....

[Jas]

Just ordered a TA-05 with the carbon F&R damper stays and racing steering set... Should have it by Monday ready for racing on Friday! I'm kinda excited as you might have gathered! I was thinking about the Ti screw set as well, ease of fitting on a fresh build but its on the pricey side I thought... I'll keep you all posted and post some pics when I get it...

[TheoDR]

Congrats Jas!!! :D

[Dazzler]

OK, my box arrived yesterday, I spent two nights building and setting up... here's my first impressions about the chassis (haven't driven it yet)

Pro's:
* It's new ! :D
* Motor is more up front, and lateral placed battery will make for a better balance between front/rear, where the TA04 had the weight more towards the rear
* Complete symmetrical buildup of front and rear gearboxes, with identical length drive belts
* Tension of both belts can be adjusted (TA04 only had front belt tensioner)
* Almost all parts made of carbon-reinforced plastic (TA04 has more "regular" plastic parts)
* Spur has better protection against small rocks (yes i've had problems with that on my TA04, damaging the teeth of the spur)


Con's:
* Replacing Spur gear takes some disassembly (TA04 was only 2 screws)
* In order to adjust the belt tension, the car needs to be taken apart by say 50% (only one bolt on the TA04, although only front belt)
* No self taping screw anywhere, everything is machine screws. And believe me they are very easily overturned in them carbon reinforced plastic parts!
* Springs are very bouncy! If I push to car down and let go, it jumps up all four wheels in the air! On my TA04, they're much softer, and car is not so bouncy! Will probably have to swap out with at least some thicker oil and softer, more progressive springs I guess
* You need to cut of part of your steering servo mount (the lower mounting hole on the right side of the servo). I don't like to cut up my servo's!
* When setup as per the instructions, the rear wheels have some positive camber! I've never seen a kit with default positive camber. Usually neutral or slightly negative!

[TRF TT-01]

I have a TB-02 and the stock dampers are just like what you described! That's why you need the TRF Damper Set.

[TRF TT-01]

BTW, I have to cut out part of my servos on my shaft driven car too! Oh well, just get some spare servo case.

[Jas]

Just got the TA-05 home! Still waiting for a reciever to complete but I shall be building her up slowly till it arrives... Here's some pics, not even opened the box! :eek:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/nuchassis.jpg

I shall post up some more pics when I complete various stages of the build. I went for pretty cheap electronics for the moment, LRP Runner, Futaba Servo and reciever and an 18x2 Peak Motor.

[TheoDR]

Looking good Jas!!! :D

[TRF TT-01]

Hey you guys, stop posting pictures of your TA-05! It makes me want to buy one so badly, but I have to save up for one!

[Jas]

Heh, sorry there TRF!

I'm just rather excitable as I've been waiting to get a new RC for about a year! I had to save up too, but the waiting pays off in the end! I have just attached both gearboxes and the centre pulley assembly. Going together nice and easy, time for a break now but then I'm onto the suspension arms and shocks! Already I can tell this car has waaaaay more potential than my TT-01...

[Dazzler]

OK TRF TT-01 you asked for it! :p

Here's mine, arrived last week, and almost ready!

http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/ta05_1.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/ta05_2.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/ta05_3.jpg
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[Rain Man]

That looks HOT!!!!!!! :eek: I think I know what my next car will be. :D

[Rain Man]

I cant find the titanium screw set,carbon damper stay's or stabilizer set on tower. Where are yall getting those parts? somebody please help :(

[Dazzler]

I ordered mine at stellamodel.net, which is in hongkong. I'm from Belgium, right in between tower and stellamodels, so I order were i'ts cheapest or most available!


I cant find the titanium screw set,carbon damper stay's or stabilizer set on tower. Where are yall getting those parts? somebody please help :(

[Rain Man]

OK I think I found it. It has a indy car on top of the home page right? Will they ship to the US? I's it a good site to order from? In other words will I get screwed if I order from them? Sorry for all the stupid questions.

[Dazzler]

That's the one yes. (Actually it's a Formula1 ;) )

They ship worldwide, and I ordered mine on Saturday 20th, package arrived here Wednesday 25th ;)

I have friends with similar good experiences.

[Rain Man]

Ok formula 1 sorry :p thanks for the help

[TRF TT-01]

Nice TA05! The Ferrrari F430 looks really good!

Stop posting TA05 pictures!! :p

I can't afford a TA05 right now, I might just buy that cool looking Ferrari F430 body for my TB-02 for now! :)

Why don't you guys post more TA05 pictures with more upgrades on? ;)

[TRF Drive Hard]

You bastards! :p i been outta rc for a few months now and seeing this 05 is making me want one... ah the urge the urge the urge! :D

[TRF TT-01]

You gotta bring out your R/C and be up to date!! :p

[microrcdude]

why do i have a feeling i inspired ted to come post? oh well, ted, your still a looser, and where the heck is my 414? C'mon man, get you head out ur butt. haha j/k bro

[TRF TT-01]

Hey guys look at the following link, Tamiya is going to release some goodies! They are going to release the Frog again!

Too bad they said nothing about TA-05R! They are going to release a TA-05 with NSX and Supra body!

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/index.htm

[microrcdude]

Oh sweet! I should pick up an 05

[Edgarski]

what is the exact website of stellamodel please?. Stellamodel.net doesn't work.

Thanks.

I ordered mine at stellamodel.net, which is in hongkong. I'm from Belgium, right in between tower and stellamodels, so I order were i'ts cheapest or most available!

[Dazzler]

my mistake ;) I see I forgot an S!

it's stellamodels.net or www.stellamodels.net

;)

what is the exact website of stellamodel please?. Stellamodel.net doesn't work.

Thanks.

[^j!nx^]

does the ta05 have optional bodypost mounting on the front shock tower for older pre drilled tamiya bodys?

[Dazzler]

No, is doesn't.

Allthough the front shock tower is placed exactly on the same position as the TA04 (comparing a TA04 and TA05 side by side, they line up exactly) but the the shock tower lacks mounting holes for bodyposts.
Also, the mounting holes of the TA05 shock tower do not match the mounting holes of the TA04 part for mounting on the gearbox. Swapping them parts is thus not possible.

But from my point of view, it would be possible to create your own custom cut Carbon Fiber shock tower, which has the mounting holes for the TA05 gearbox, and also has the extra required mounting holes for the body posts. Some sort of hybrid mix let's call it.

Otherwise, the fast solution would be to drill an extra 2 holes in your body ;)



does the ta05 have optional bodypost mounting on the front shock tower for older pre drilled tamiya bodys?

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Yeah man that looks awesome! I might order one tonight and send back that TT-01R I bought the other day. Bad thing is I'm just gonna use the car for hitting a few local paved areas.... not racing. Wonder if I can keep crap out of the belts.

[Jas]

Its the little stones and bit of crud that the wheels kick up into the car thats the main problem with Semi-enclosed drivetrains. Maybe some improvised wheel arches on the inside of the shell? Or get some protection over the exposed drive areas, custom made of course (and not interferring with the drive!) Oh yeah and probably make some sponge seals for the Diff joints/Universals...

[TheoDR]

Actually, the bulkhead design is better over the 04's, in the way that there're openings at the rear of the diffs to let small stones fly out. With the 04, it'd be trapped inside. :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I'm either gonna buy The TB-02 Skyline GT-R or the TA05 Ferrari. For some reason my heart is telling me to get the TA05, but my brain is telling me to get the TB-02 with the shaft drive instead of belt. I'm not going to be doing anything but "playing" with it in some parking lots but the parking lots are pretty decent as parking lots go I guess.... but still not a prepped surface. If I thought debris in the belts wasn't an issue, I'd order it tonight!

[TRF Drive Hard]

Hey guys look at the following link, Tamiya is going to release some goodies! They are going to release the Frog again!

Too bad they said nothing about TA-05R! They are going to release a TA-05 with NSX and Supra body!

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/index.htm

You just had to say Supra didnt you? ya just had too... now i have every reason why to buy the 05... damn you TRF!!! :D

[Vundergah]

I'm also in the same position as tamiya4x4dryver. I read that the TA-05 has been designed for maximum durability and easy of maintenance, any first hand experience?

[tamiya4x4dryver]

The funny thing about that is.... I've heard a couple of people say thing like "you have to disassemble 50% of the car to adjust belt tension" Ummm.... I dunno.... sounds like a hassle to me. But..... 1. Doubt that's something you have to adjust very often, 2. I'm always tearing my r/c's down for cleaning and inspection anyway, so....

If anyone has any opinions on our questions/concerns don't hesitate to jump in cause I'd like to order something by tomorrow.

[Dazzler]

That was me about that 50% I think ;)

Go back to the previous page, my first impressions of the car (pro's and con's are there)

If tamiya claims it was designed for maximum durability - I would probably agree. But easy of maintenance? Don't think so, I believe the TA04 is easier, especially belt tension adjustment and spur/gear changeovers.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I'm thinking seriously about trying it out. Like I said, probably not the best choice for "playing" on unprepped surfaces but maybe if I pick and choose my spots to run carefully. It's not like the thing is hella expensive. I can get one for $145 delivered to my door which I guess is reasonable enough. I have plenty of electronics laying around. It even comes with bearings and oil shocks so I probably wouldn't bother buying any upgrades until I found out if it would be staying here or going by way of eBay :)

I want the TA05 no doubt... but my brain is still saying HELLO! ERIC! You better get the TB-02 so you don't have to worry about the debris factor! I usually just tell my brain to shut up if it stands in between me and an r/c I really want, LOL :)

But yeah... I think that's a fair price for what it is. Only thing I'd have to decide is Black F430 or Yellow F430 :) Man.... one can of paint.... this is a cheap project :)

[Jas]

I've gone for the Tamiya Black for my Ferrari, but reckon yellow would look cool also. I would say that if you drive where its relatively clean of debris you'll be ok, even shaft-drive cars can be easily damaged by small stones. My TT-01 had a small stone get lodged under the aluminium driveshaft and had the effect of a lathe, nearly cut the shaft clean in two! Any on-road car can get wrecked if driven in gritty, stoney conditions, go for the TA-05, you won't be dissapointed! ;)

Oh yeah, I was wondering, since Tamiya loosely based the TRF-414/5 on the TA-04 (Am I right in assuming this?) Do you think we'll see a TRF-515 based on the TA-05 chassis? :eek:

[tamiya4x4dryver]

My TT-01 had a small stone get lodged under the aluminium driveshaft and had the effect of a lathe, nearly cut the shaft clean in two!

WOW! That's pretty wild, huh? I use to have a TC3 that I built and got to play with a handful of times, but at that time we had moved to a spot where I didn't have anywhere good to run it so I sold it. Nice smooth car though. I should probably be buying a TC4 right now, but I've had the Tamiya bug really bad for about 15 years.... it's a curse. I've actually been wanting to convert a factory team T4 to pavement use which would serve my needs better than anything, but I go thru the streaks where I have touring cars up my butt (well, not literally) :)

I like to beat myself up mentally pretty bad before each Tower order (I only make 10-20 orders per year, lol). Anyway I will probably be buying 2 kits tomorrow and I'm weighing out the scenarios I could do today. I'm leaning towards the TA05 being one of the 2. Mainly because I've had shaft cars before... TT01, Tc3, Tao1, Ta02, TL01, TL01LA, Nitro rs4MT, Juggs, Txt's, e-maxx, Pajero's, and probably some I'm forgetting..... but come to think of it, I've NEVER had a belt car in 15 years of building kits with the exception of a rs4sport2 that I built and then sold before I even ran it.

The belt drive kinda fascinates(sp?) me. I think it's cool looking and I bet it's smooth. I like the sealed belt drive like Losi has, but I don't deal anywhere that carries Losi parts so I don't mess with Losi anymore.

[Tamiya4ever]

Hey guys look at the following link, Tamiya is going to release some goodies! They are going to release the Frog again!

Too bad they said nothing about TA-05R! They are going to release a TA-05 with NSX and Supra body!

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/index.htm


Hmm, there are no pictures. Do you have a link to photos?

[Tamiya4ever]

I am hoping they re-release the HotShot :D

[Dazzler]

That would be cool ;) I'm stil hoping on a Wild One re-release, as it was my very first RC Car ever!

I am hoping they re-release the HotShot :D

[rclapcar]

That was me about that 50% I think ;)

Go back to the previous page, my first impressions of the car (pro's and con's are there)

If tamiya claims it was designed for maximum durability - I would probably agree. But easy of maintenance? Don't think so, I believe the TA04 is easier, especially belt tension adjustment and spur/gear changeovers.

I would have to seriously disagree with changing belt tension and spur gears being hard to do or requiring 50% of the car to be disassembled.

For the spur gear you take out 5 screws from the spur gear cover. Then the whole assembly just slides out. 2 more screws and you get the spur gear off. Then you just put it back in. Shouldn’t take more than 2-3 minutes to do a changeover.

For the drive belt tension you just pop off the shocks (at the top only or both if you prefer). Then you take off ONE camber link and the 4 screws that hold the cover on. Once that’s off, the entire diff slides out with the tension adjusters. Then it’s just a matter of moving the adjusters to a different position and sliding the entire thing back down into the groves. Then you just put the 4 screws back in, pop on the camber link and shocks. No more than 5 minutes I’d say.

[Dazzler]

OK, maybe it does not take 2 hours to adjust... but I'm used to the TA04 chassis....

Changing the spur on a TA04: 2 screws, nothing else. Less than a minute work!

Belt tension: one single bolt. Adjustment made in 10 sec. max!


Not trying to start an argue here, just my opinion, especially when coming from a TA04 chassis.

Oh PS: I know that Serpent/Xray etc use the exact some system for belt tension adjustment as the TA05 does, and compared to them, maintenance probably will be the same. In that way, tamiya's claim will be fair, but I was comparing to the TA04 in my original post!

I would have to seriously disagree with changing belt tension and spur gears being hard to do or requiring 50% of the car to be disassembled.

For the spur gear you take out 5 screws from the spur gear cover. Then the whole assembly just slides out. 2 more screws and you get the spur gear off. Then you just put it back in. Shouldn’t take more than 2-3 minutes to do a changeover.

For the drive belt tension you just pop off the shocks (at the top only or both if you prefer). Then you take off ONE camber link and the 4 screws that hold the cover on. Once that’s off, the entire diff slides out with the tension adjusters. Then it’s just a matter of moving the adjusters to a different position and sliding the entire thing back down into the groves. Then you just put the 4 screws back in, pop on the camber link and shocks. No more than 5 minutes I’d say.

[rclapcar]

Not arguing. Just wanted to make sure people knew it wasn't a difficult car to work on. I never owned a TA-04 so can't compare to that but I have seen someone change the spur on the 415 (the new one too) which was a pain.

[Dazzler]

OK, glad we agree ;)

It was never my intension to make a TA05 sound like a difficult car to work on. As we've come to expect from tamiya, they again delivered a very nice car, and supply a fantastic manual, like only tamiya can!

I was merely pointing out the differences with the TA04 chassis, as most people in this thread already had experience with that chassis.

The design of the spur on the 415 is complety different from the TA04, I don't own one but from what I can see in the pictures, it requires complete removal of the rear bulkhead and everything connected to it. That of the TA05 is surely better!


Not arguing. Just wanted to make sure people knew it wasn't a difficult car to work on. I never owned a TA-04 so can't compare to that but I have seen someone change the spur on the 415 (the new one too) which was a pain.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

1. How tight are the belts supposed to be when you build the car?

2. How long before they usually stretch and require re-adjustment?

3. How's it work on the "05? Do you adjust each belt independantly from the ends of the car? I was trying to figure out how you would independantly adjust them from the center, but like I said before.... I don't know anything about belt cars (it shows) lol. :) Is it kind of how the HPI sport2 was that I built, in how there were little notches that the eliptical thingy the diff sat in?

4. How is the TA05 as far as being quiet and smooth sounding? I guess with universals it would be more quiet but I guess I was referring more to the belt drive vs. and equal caliber shaft car like the TB02.

5. Also, I've read some posts about the TB02 having some diff issues with the cheap plastic diff cups it comes with. Are these the same parts that come with the TA05? Any diff issues with the '05?



I think I'm going to order mine later tonight. I'm still worried/concerned that it's not the right choice for playing in parking lots I guess in my mind I can see getting tiny debris in between the pulleys and the belts and then chewing up the plastic pulleys and shredding the belts? Maybe I just worry too much? :)

[tamiya4x4dryver]

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[Dazzler]

1) Just build it according the manual, and they will be fine! it's actually just tight enough, without being "sloppy" but not so tight that it puts stress on any part.

2) Time will tell ;) lots will depend on your driving as well ;)

3) adjustment is made inside the diff's mounting position in the bulkhead's, front and rear. Like you're description on the HPI yes ;)

4) It's quiet. Less noice than a shaft driven car!

5) They're plastic on the TA05 as well, haven't seen the TB02 ones, but guessing they will be similar. TA04 and previous had them in steel. Son't know about the quality though, swapped them out immediately for the upgrade cups (53849 (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=53849) )


And stop worry ;) I ran my TA04 cars on parking lots all the time. Occassionally some small debris would get between the belt, and overall it cost me one broken belt that I had replaced. It's not that big a deal. If you don't want any part of your car to wear out or brake, then buy it, seal the box upon arrival, and put it in a display case and lock the door!



1. How tight are the belts supposed to be when you build the car?

2. How long before they usually stretch and require re-adjustment?

3. How's it work on the "05? Do you adjust each belt independantly from the ends of the car? I was trying to figure out how you would independantly adjust them from the center, but like I said before.... I don't know anything about belt cars (it shows) lol. :) Is it kind of how the HPI sport2 was that I built, in how there were little notches that the eliptical thingy the diff sat in?


I think I'm going to order mine later tonight. I'm still worried/concerned that it's not the right choice for playing in parking lots I guess in my mind I can see getting tiny debris in between the pulleys and the belts and then chewing up the plastic pulleys and shredding the belts? Maybe I just worry too much? :)

[TRF Drive Hard]

The design of the spur on the 415 is complety different from the TA04, I don't own one but from what I can see in the pictures, it requires complete removal of the rear bulkhead and everything connected to it. That of the TA05 is surely better!

If youre referring to the removal of the spur gear, it doesnt require the removal of the rear bulkhead... there is a shaft stopper that is removed via grub screw and the loosening of the spur hub... simply slide out the shaft and the spur comes comes off...

Now if you meant the removal of the rear diff, YES the freakin rear bulk head needs to be practically disassembled... oh what joyous pain... :rolleyes:

[TRF Drive Hard]

Also, if i remember correctly, its not plastic, its a frp composite like the tb02 chassis...

[tamiya4x4dryver]

It's not that big a deal. If you don't want any part of your car to wear out or brake, then buy it, seal the box upon arrival, and put it in a display case and lock the door!

I actually have had Tamiya kits like that, but eventually I cave in and build them, LOL :)

I'm realistic and after 15 years of running r/c's I've bought my share of replacement parts (and then some). I just meant to say I was hoping that every time I take the thing out I don't want to be chewing up the pulley's or belts. Not having experience with belt drives is what's making me interested in the TA05. I've built everything r/c from pan cars to monster trucks and everything in between over the years. But only built the one belt car that I never got to drive (sport2). As much as I love to build kits it has gotten a bit stale do to the fact there are really no surprises when I build anymore. The belt car will be something new and exciting (atleast until the debris chews up the darn pulleys and belts) LOL, LOL :)

Thanks for answering my questions. I'll order it tonight and I'll let you guys know how I make out with it. If it doesn't work out for me you'll see it on eBay, hehe. :)


If you build the kit as per the manual, what kind of ground clearance in millimeters does that give you? also how far in millimeters could you possibly move it up or down from there? Just curious....

[Dazzler]

As build per the manual, it has about 5-6 millimeter of ground clearance.

I've put mine on 11 millimeters now, which is actually the highest possible.

Lowest would be touching the ground ;)

The kit has adjustable rebound screws, so it's actually really easy to adjust the riding height.

[Jas]

Tamiya TA-05 - Chassis shots

Sorry for yet more TA-05 pics, but hey! You have to love it... :p

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/01.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/02.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/03.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/04.jpg

Off to shop tommorrow, need a 23T pinion, maybe the centre one-way.
Does anyone know if you can get the carbon bumper brace? I think its the same as the TB-EVO one, I know the body post set is from the EVO kit so it should be the same, no?
:rolleyes:

[microrcdude]

Oh man i want wanna them so bad! I should build one for TCS next year

[TheoDR]

Tamiya TA-05 - Chassis shots

Sorry for yet more TA-05 pics, but hey! You have to love it... :p

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/01.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/02.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/03.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/04.jpg

Off to shop tommorrow, need a 23T pinion, maybe the centre one-way.
Does anyone know if you can get the carbon bumper brace? I think its the same as the TB-EVO one, I know the body post set is from the EVO kit so it should be the same, no?
:rolleyes:
That's the TB EVO3 one if I'm not wrong...got one meself. :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

That's cool, thanks for all your help!

I'm going to run mine fairly high due to unprepped parking lots...

My parents live a couple of houses down from my wife and I. My dad has a pretty nice asphalt driveway. It's a straight shot from the road, to his 2 car garage. It's 150 feet long and roughly 10 feet wide at the narrow end (probably 70% of the driveway is 10 feet wide), and then it opens up to 18-20 feet wide at the garage end of the driveway (about the last 50 feet close to the garage is that 18-20 foot width I'd guess). Anyway it's pretty nice to run 1/10th electrics on. It's tight down to the one end where it's 10 feet wide so I gotta slow down alot there when I turn around to go back the other way, but the rest of the way you can put the hammer down (depending on which of my r/c's we are talking about, lol). It's nice and clean and I can use his leaf blower on it in a matter of minutes when I need to. It's pretty smooth. Not tennins court smooth but kind of "rolly" in spots. No cracks or holes, anything like that.

We also live on a nice wide 2 lane road with bike lanes on both sides and very little traffic (out in the country). I know you guys would frown on me running in the street so I'll lie to you and tell you that I don't do it (probably should have not typed that out loud, LOL).

[tamiya4x4dryver]

BTW, car is looking great Jas! :)

I ordered mine tonight! Maybe I'll get it by the end of the week :)

[microrcdude]

Oh man youre so lucky! I want a TA05 so bad! Ill have to get one if i make TCS nats this year

[rclapcar]

The carbon bumpre brace is from the EVO 4 (the MS kit I believe). To be exact 53725 Tamiya TB Evolution IV Carbon Body Mount Stay.

The carbon battery brace from the TB-02 will also fit. Not sure if it's lighter than the stock plastic one or if you can remove the TB-02 label from it.

As for adjusting ride height. Please, please, please don't use the droop (rebound) screws to do it. They are meant to adjust the amount of down travel the arms can have which controls the weight transfer during acceleration and braking. To adjust ride height you use the plastic spacers that go above the springs on the shocks. You always want at least some droop in a car otherwise it just screws up the handling, especially in corners.

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/products/proddwnld.php?prod_id=1281&kategoria=0

Go to that site and download the free Hudy Setup guide. It will explain every type of setting you could ever want to make on a car and what it does. It even has a handy chart at the back to help you quickly setup the car.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Thanks for the link! That's good to info to have! :)

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Hey Jas and Dazzler, do either of you guys have a good picture of the underside of the chassis with the car built?

thanks,
eric

[tamiya4x4dryver]

BTW, I was on Ebay tonight looking at those eBay stores from HongKong and they had pretty good prices on their option parts. Guess it doesn't matter to Jas and Dazzler as they already have most of the hopups :)

I'm ready to give my Visa card a good thrashing but like I said before, I want to see how well the car works out on the surfaces I play on. Once I know it's a keeper (and I'm growing ever optimistic that it will be), I'm definatly gonna get the Universals, and some TRF shocks, and it would be nice to have the screw set, which I must say for me not racing, not really because of the weight, but because of hex hardware instead of phillips. I wonder why they didn't make the screws blue to match the other option parts?

Gonna want the racing steering set too :) Man, Tamiya's are the upgrade hogs from hell :D If you can buy alot of the upgrade parts at once to save on shipping, it's usually hard to beat those sellers from HongKong on Ebay.

If Dazzler took red and Jas is taking black, I'm calling yellow for my F430. We don't want all our pics looking like the XB pajero forums on some message boards where there are 50 Pajero's and they are all silver with the same number, LOL :) Actually I may do white instead of yellow.... who cares.. rambling... I think Yellow is an actual Ferrari color though. I was thinking they only come from the factory in red, black, or yellow???

[TRF Drive Hard]

Oh man youre so lucky! I want a TA05 so bad! Ill have to get one if i make TCS nats this year

If that WCR ever gets to your house... last time i tracked it, it was in Antakya... ;)

[TRF TT-01]

Didn't I said not to post pictures of TA05! I want it so badly but I just spend all the money on hop-ups!

[rclapcar]

I wonder why they didn't make the screws blue to match the other option parts?

Mainly because Titanium does not take dyes like aluminium does. I spent the better part of a day trying to find anyone who had blue titanium screws. No such luck.

[Jas]

I just got some nice alloy shocks for my TA-05, they are blue Eagle Racing ones.
Eagle Racing Shocks (http://integy.automated-shops.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=2055&p_catid=12&sid=4wSJJh1FYExY9U5-38105569590.17)
They were easy to build, and feel nice and smooth (smoother than stock shocks) and also came with a set of softer springs and different shims and piston internals. I also noticed how they looked almost identical to the shocks on the Corally RDX (I'm sure they're the same ones). PIC (http://www.balakracing.com/images/corally/rdx_prototype/CorallyRDXfrontsuspension.jpg)

However, it did take a bit of jiggery-pokery to get them to fit, the holes won't accept 5mm Ballnuts, and I needed some spares to make them fit.
Has anyone else got a set? Any way they look sweet on the car and work well too, although I would still love some nice blue TRF shocks! :D
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jasman/images/rc/TA05/nushox.jpg

[microrcdude]

Dang those things took tight! Like the darker blue, something different on a tamiya

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Mainly because Titanium does not take dyes like aluminium does. I spent the better part of a day trying to find anyone who had blue titanium screws. No such luck.
Really? I thought for sure I had seen blue titanium turnbuckles? Aren't the AE blue turnbuckles on their factory rides titanium? I'm not doubting you and infact it makes sence as far as that's a very logical reason that they aren't blue, lol :)

[microrcdude]

AE blue turnbuckles are titanium, same as lunsfords turnbuckles only blue. I cant remember where, but i saw some other blue turnbuckles, but they are aluminum

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Well if AE can have blue ti turnbuckles, why can't tamiya have blue ti screws? I personally have sent enough money to their company in the last 15 years to color everything blue, right down to the diff grease :D

It has been proven that any r/c hopup part that is blue, makes your car faster than the exact same part in a natural titanium finish. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well a blue sharpie works wonders :D

[TheoDR]

Here's my baby again! :D

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/theodr34/TA05_D.jpg

[TRF Drive Hard]

So how does she run Theo?

[tamiya4x4dryver]

How's she run? How's she run? :D

Did you paint the kit wheels black?

[Tamiya4ever]

Your gonna make me get one. Thats a great lookin ride. Although with mine I want to use the new Pontiac G-6 body. :D

[TheoDR]

Ah, she runs good!! Didn't paint the wheels black, those are some spare rims I had lying around. Handling wise, directional transition seems to be faster than the 04. Fun fun funnnnnnnn!!! :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

That's cool TheoDR, my TA05 shipped from Tower today! :D

[Jas]

Should hopefully be getting some carpet race time tommorrow with the TA-05! I had to soften my shocks a little as they were too stiff before. I also picked up some LRP V-tec CS24's for grip duties. I'll let you all know how it goes if I can get down there.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Cool, let us know how you make out man! Good luck!

eric

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Hey guys, do you need to have a picture host to put pics on here? Or can you take them directly from your PC? I had an account with montypics but I think it expired.

[microrcdude]

Yeah, just look under the area where you write your post nd there should be another box thing that says "Upload files" or something like that, click and search there. If i were you, i'd get a photobucket account. Real easy to use, totally free, no downlad limits.

www.photobucket.com

[tamiya4x4dryver]

thanks for the headsup. I always say "free is for me" :)

[Jas]

Well some intresting results from carpet racing yesterday..!
Apart from my awful driving :P this car needs a little bit of tuning to get it working right for carpet racing. As well as my first time on carpet it was my first proper run with the TA-05, so I was all over the place! Stock gearing seemed to lack acceleration but had too much top end, not ideal for the technical indoor track I was on. I went from 22t down to a 19t as that was all I had, I think 20/21t will be just right. Also the rear end just wouldn't stick at medium/high speed corners, and there was tonnes of power-off steering on exit. I think the stabilizers (yellow) had a part to play in this effect but the stock positive rear camber didn't help with traction. There seemed to be a little toe-out to the front wheels also, unfortunatley I didn't get to change the above things until now, so I'll have to wait until next week before I can see if they helped! I put the lighter (red) stabilizer in the rear for now, but I may ditch them altogether...

[rclapcar]

Umm... you should never have positive camber. Either 0 or negative (leaning in) but never positive. That might explain the really loose rear end. Try the car without any sway bars at all first (front or rear) then add them only if you need them. Also try setting the front toe to neutral.

[Jas]

Hey just thought I'd show these juicy little hop-ups I saw on Jasons Ebay store.

Carbon Low Mounting Chassis Brace:
http://members.sparedollar.com/jr-rc/tta939updeckta05.jpg

Carbon Steering Bar:
http://members.sparedollar.com/jr-rc/tta050ta05stbrace.jpg

Carbon Battery Strap:
http://members.sparedollar.com/jr-rc/tta040ta05brace.jpg

Gotta get me some ordered! :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Those look sweet. That's a decent place to buy from. I've bought from him before with no problems. Thanks for posting the pics!

[TRF Drive Hard]

MMMMM juicy!

[Dazzler]

Like I told before, the TA05 has positive camber when build as per the manual!! I changed this during building, as I figured it was strange, and probably an error from Tamiya's side....

Umm... you should never have positive camber. Either 0 or negative (leaning in) but never positive. That might explain the really loose rear end. Try the car without any sway bars at all first (front or rear) then add them only if you need them. Also try setting the front toe to neutral.

[KyoshoKev]

hey guys. i want to get my first 1/10 electric tourer... i want to race it seriosly... is the ta05 a top of the line car to get? how does it stack up against the xray fk05? the tamiya doesnt have CF, is the tamiya strong enough?... thanks for any input

[TRF Drive Hard]

The 05 is fresh... newly released a few months ago... a few guys here have the 05 on hand and have pretty much upgraded it... if youre looking to really race, i suggest the 415...

[Dazzler]

The TA05 is tamiya's latest chassis, but it is not the top (at least not without the necessary hop-up's, and even then...)
It's a great chassis, but you can't really compare it to the Xray chassis.
The Xray chassis is top of the line: full CF & alu parts, Low friction dampers... , for the serious racer.

That said, if you really want to race.... just compare the specs:

Tamiya TA05: full kit can be bought for 118$, including body,motor, tires but will require additional tuning, other motor, better tires, etc. and most parts are Fiber-reinforced plastic

XRay FK05: can be found for 335$, just chassis: no body, no motor, and no tires (only rims if I'm correct) but has all the alu part, all the CF parts you can wish for. Add body, motor, tires and you have spend enough money to buy 4 TA05 kit's ;)

Doesn't take a wizard to figure out which chassis is best for racing ;) Also to Xray does look incredibly hot with all that CF and alu!


Concerning strength: the TA05 is strong enough for sure. All "plastic" parts are Fiber reinforced plastic, not just the cheap ABS plastic found on the TT01 or TB01 etc models.

So it will depend on you're budget, a "stock" TA05 will be fun to drive, but it won't keep up with a "stock" Xray FK05. Also, check what competition's they drive in your area: are it open classes, or are there frequent tamiya cups? Can't drive a tamiya cup with an Xray!



hey guys. i want to get my first 1/10 electric tourer... i want to race it seriosly... is the ta05 a top of the line car to get? how does it stack up against the xray fk05? the tamiya doesnt have CF, is the tamiya strong enough?... thanks for any input

[rcster3000]

I have 1 question whats the diff between the ta04 and the ta05??????

[Dazzler]

Have you ever actually looked at any pictures of them both?

To quote tamiya on the TA05 chassis:

About the TA05 Chassis
Successor to the popular TA04 chassis, the TA05 has been designed with an eye towards the twin goals of Easy Driving and Easy Maintenance. The key feature of this chassis is the innovative transmission system which incorporates two isometric drive belts mounted front and rear, interlocking with tooth surfaced center pulley This design greatly reduces drive resistance to achieve better transmission efficiency at high speeds. The chassis structure has been redesigned for optimum balance, locating the motor in center-left and battery in center-right position. Center shaft, drive belts and spur gear have also been repositioned for improved balance. Suspension is the same durable and reliable system found on the TA04 chassis. Several features make this chassis wonderfully easy to perform maintenance on, such as the single deck frame and one-piece motor mount. Front and rear bulkheads are identical and feature 2-piece detachable design. New-style mount allows diff to be removed without detaching stabilizers. Includes spur gear cover.


BTW, here's a few pictures of a TA04 & TA05 side by side (neither of them 100% stock, but you will get the idea)

TA05 on the left side:
http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/TA04TA05a.jpg


TA05 in the front
http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/TA04TA05b.jpg

I have 1 question whats the diff between the ta04 and the ta05??????

[Dazzler]

Hey Eric,

Sorry must have overlooked your question, anyway here you go ;)

http://users.telenet.be/derny/pictures/TA05_bottom.jpg

Dennis.

Hey Jas and Dazzler, do either of you guys have a good picture of the underside of the chassis with the car built?

thanks,
eric

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Thanks Dazzler, just what I was looking for!

[rclapcar]

hey guys. i want to get my first 1/10 electric tourer... i want to race it seriosly... is the ta05 a top of the line car to get? how does it stack up against the xray fk05? the tamiya doesnt have CF, is the tamiya strong enough?... thanks for any input

Well at a recent race we had around here I came in 8th (out of around 30 and only 8 seconds behind 2nd) with a just built the night before TA05. Beat many guys with expensive Xrays and 415's. It's all about the driving. Give one of the top world drivers a bad car and they will still probably out drive your typical club racer who has a top of the line car.

Given two drivers of equal ability the more expensive cars MIGHT be a little faster than the TA05 with a few of the mods.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I got the November issue of Car Action today and they reviewed the TA05. They loved it (big shocker). They also loved the Juggernaut1, but hey nobody is perfect! :)

I still have my TA05 new in box.... gotta find time soon to build it. I'm pumped! You guys got any new pics of your 05's?

[TheoDR]

I got the November issue of Car Action today and they reviewed the TA05. They loved it (big shocker). They also loved the Juggernaut1, but hey nobody is perfect! :)

I still have my TA05 new in box.... gotta find time soon to build it. I'm pumped! You guys got any new pics of your 05's?
Oh wow, give us some quotes on what they said about the 05? :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

LIKES:
> silky smooth drivetrain
> quick and easy to build
> reponsive handling

DISLIKES:
> motor installation requires patience
> large receivers cannot be mounted directly on the chassis
> steering servo has to be modified for installation

" The chassis is easy to build and maintain, and that's what makes it a great first touring car that's easy to wrench on when racing. The drivetrain is incredibly free-spinning and handles loads of power, as evidenced by the nearly highway speeds the Ferrari hit. The suspension can be easily adjusted to jive with different track conditions, and the chassis proved itself to be quite durable. I would not be at all surprised to see this latest platform from Tamiya dominating the local track."

It was a fairly comprehensive 6 page article with a few pics, building tips, specs, and tests.... The usual...

In this RTR nitro world that we now live in, I was glad to see it get a nice little spread. The bizarre thing I thought was that they did not run the Tamiya's new 2-page ad for the TA05 that they ran last month. Figured they stick that a page or 2 after the article. anyway that gives you a taste of what it has without totally ruining it for you. :)

[Mongoose420]

i think my buddie is going to suck me into TC and i will most likely get a TA05 as tamiya has really impressed me lately(gotta love the TNX). That is unless i can find me one of those yok MR-4TC SSG's :D ;)

[TamiyaNut]

I have a TT-01 and I love it. But after reading what you guys had to say about the ta05 I just had to get it. I ordered it last night from Tower and should be coming in a day or two. :D

[struman1]

I have raced for a few years and have owned everything from Yokes to Corallys. I have bought and raced the high end models but have grown tired of spending $300~$400 bucks only to get slammed from behind and have to buy another carbon hop-up. I always loved Tamiyas but no one raced them where I drove. I started racing a TA04R last year and spent my money on things that actually made the car better. Last season I spent considerably less but stayed fairly competitive against racers spending twice as much. I was actually enjoying the hobby more. I picked up a TA05 last month and drove it box stock with a 19 turn and 3600 bats at my local track. I easily stayed with guys who were average drivers but had the top of the line rides. With a few hops, better tires and some setup tweaks I may get to a few A mains this year. Don't get me wrong, I'll never win the A main but I'm spending half the cash that I did before. Its also kind of ironic knowing that 20 yrs from now, my TA04 and 05 may be worth more on Ebay than my other top line racers. :D

[TRF TT-01]

Yes, the TA05 is an amazing car! I will wait for the R to come out and I will get that one. I can't wait!!

[Vundergah]

TB-02R or TA-05? Which is better?

[cheerwhiner]

right now probably tb-02r but the ta05 will eventually have a TRF version and R version I'm sure. I'm waiting, it will be my next tourer once the TRF arrives. I just fixed up my Ta04 today and drove it for about 2 hours in the store parking lot.

[rclapcar]

Chances are that the R version won't be out until at least this time next year. Took almost as long for the TB-02R.

[struman1]

TB-02R or TA-05? Which is better?

TA05 is the better choice. The tranny is very efficient and the car was designed for mid-level racing since it has most of the chassis adjustments that higher priced cars do. I'm sure there is a carbon chassis in the works also. The TB02/TT01 are basically for bashing but you can get some speed out of them. I have the TT01 BMW and I have most of the hops for it but it can't touch my stock TA05 in a race. My TT01 looks sweet and I have it dialed pretty good but you need a good mod to get any speed out of it. It still comes down to driving/setup/bats and tires. I would love to see a world class driver compare lap times with a TA05 and a Evo because I think the difference would be a few seconds. Thats a lot when your among the best drivers but 90% of the us would never know the difference. I take my Mini to the track all the time and people are amazed at how fast I can get that thing around the track. :eek:

[Vundergah]

Is the TA05 able to be "bashed" like a TT01/TB02?

[struman1]

Is the TA05 able to be "bashed" like a TT01/TB02?

Yeah, but why would you bash this??? :(
The Ultraflo Supra body is beautiful. Tamiya makes the best bods.
http://www.tamiya.com/english/hobbyshow/news0509/news1.htm

[tamiya4x4dryver]

It depends on your definition of bash I guess. Bash kinda makes it sound like your jumping ramps in your backyard with it.

I just bought a TA05, building it now, and I'm not going to be racing. The places I'll be running it are not prepped, but pretty clean and free of debris. I'm anxious to see how well I can keep stuff out of the belt drive. If you are going to play where it's a real sandy or gritty parking lot with lots of tiny stones and other debris, you'd probably be better off with a TT-01 or a TB02. I probably would have been better off too, but the TA05 was just too darn sick to pass it up.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Man I just bought a TT-01 Skyline GT-R and a Ferrari F430 TA05, and now they are coming out with 2005 NSX and Supra's for both chassis' in that link above that struman1 posted..... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[struman1]

It depends on your definition of bash I guess. Bash kinda makes it sound like your jumping ramps in your backyard with it.

I just bought a TA05, building it now, and I'm not going to be racing. The places I'll be running it are not prepped, but pretty clean and free of debris. I'm anxious to see how well I can keep stuff out of the belt drive. If you are going to play where it's a real sandy or gritty parking lot with lots of tiny stones and other debris, you'd probably be better off with a TT-01 or a TB02. I probably would have been better off too, but the TA05 was just too darn sick to pass it up.

Yeah thats true. My def of bashing relates to non-race activities or just driving for fun. I do most of my driving on carpet and sometimes on outdoor tracks. When I practice at my local track there are usually a lot of poor to average drivers on the track and the goal is to drive clean laps without getting bashed by another car. My TA04/5s get knocked around pretty good and they have held up well. :D

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Yeah, that's pretty much my definition of bashing too, LOL. Anything that's not racing.... Although bashing sounds alot more violent than I actually treat my cars that I just "play" with. Onroad anyway.... my offroad stuff... violent... very violent, LOL

[tamiya4x4dryver]

You guys have any more chassis pics of your TA05's with the electronics mounted. Wanted to get some ideas of how people have been mounting them and routing their wires. Thanx

[struman1]

Yeah, that's pretty much my definition of bashing too, LOL. Anything that's not racing.... Although bashing sounds alot more violent than I actually treat my cars that I just "play" with. Onroad anyway.... my offroad stuff... violent... very violent, LOL

Yeah, I bought a RS4 Rally just for that type of driving...er...bashing. Its the greatest basher ever because its part sedan and part buggy. I have it hopped up and the thing is like a tank. I jump curbs, crash into trees and run it through puddles. The chassis comes with a cover to protect the electronics and gears. The bodies are also very realistic and I even have a driver and co-driver inside. I have even taken it to off road tracks and it works really well. Great Basher! :cool:

[Vundergah]

Haha...well my definition of bashing is just driving it on your average asphalt road/pavement where there may be many sticks and stones around.

[TRF TT-01]

Check this out, some upcoming release:
http://www.tamiya.com/english/hobbyshow/news0509/news0.htm

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Yeah, I bought a RS4 Rally just for that type of driving...er...bashing. Its the greatest basher ever because its part sedan and part buggy. I have it hopped up and the thing is like a tank. I jump curbs, crash into trees and run it through puddles. The chassis comes with a cover to protect the electronics and gears. The bodies are also very realistic and I even have a driver and co-driver inside. I have even taken it to off road tracks and it works really well. Great Basher!

Yeah, HPI really dropped the ball when the discontinued the HPI rally. I wish they would come out with a shaft drive version

[Vundergah]

So I guess the TA-05 would be fine in sticks and stones?

[struman1]

I think the TT01 or the TL01 is better suited for sticks and stones. The problem with most belt drive cars is that the tranny is exposed. Usually the only exposed area in a shaft car is the shaft. For the money, a TL01 is a great street racer and can be converted to a rally car too. I have a hopped TL01 and its quick on the street and carpet. There are tons of go fast parts on Ebay that are priced really well too. I get lots of attention when I dropped a 17T in that sucker.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I'm getting ready to build my TA05 in the next day or two and have a couple of questions.

1. Does the shock oil that comes in the kit work okay? Or am I better off to build them with something a little heavier? Bashing on pretty smooth asphalt...

2. I understand how the diff parts go together, and I understand that if you over tighten it you can damage the plastic diff housings. How do you know when it's tight enough? The manual doesn't really go into great detail?

[TRF TT-01]

You just tighten the diff until the pulley does not slip. What you do is to use to hex keys and hold the diff with it. Now try to rotate the pulley. If you can move the pulley, that means it's too loose. Tighten it until it does not slip, but tighten it a bit everytime.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Okay thanks! :)

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Okay, I have the diffs built and I would hold both diff housings and try to rotate the pully. I'd tighten a little bit at a time and keep checking. When I reached the point where it required quite a bit of strength to still rotate the pully, I turned the hex wrench about 1.5 full turns from there. Does that sound about right? I can tell you that the pully ain't gonna move now if you hold both diff housings but..... when I have the whole assembly in my hands I can turn one slotted cup in one direction, and turn the opposite diff housing in the other direction rather easily and smoothly.... Is that ok??

[TRF TT-01]

Well, just make sure the diff will not rotate anymore when you hold the two diff joints. Usually, I fully tighten the diff and then go back out 1 turn and then work from there.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I think I may have damaged the diff housings. How can you tell? The reason I think I did is because I'm to the point in the assembly where pieces are attached to the chassis with the spur in the middle, belts on.... If I pull the belt by hand, both of the diff pulleys seem to wobble as they rotate, and the slotted part of the diff housing that goes out to the dogbones... when it goes around, they are wobbling too.... Not a good sign I take it???

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Anyone know the answer to my above question? I been sittin here with my diff in my hand for 3 days now, LOL

[TRF TT-01]

I don't have a TA05 so I can't answer your question.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

You want mine? LOL

[Vundergah]

Hey tamiya4x4... you might wanna try posting your question here as well:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=68261&page=48&pp=30

[TheoDR]

I think I may have damaged the diff housings. How can you tell? The reason I think I did is because I'm to the point in the assembly where pieces are attached to the chassis with the spur in the middle, belts on.... If I pull the belt by hand, both of the diff pulleys seem to wobble as they rotate, and the slotted part of the diff housing that goes out to the dogbones... when it goes around, they are wobbling too.... Not a good sign I take it???
Are the metal plates that are on the plastic outdrives sitting properly? Better check them again! Good luck!

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Are the metal plates that are on the plastic outdrives sitting properly? Better check them again! Good luck!
Yeah, all that stuff looks fine.... but the plastic parts are warped I think.

vundergah, I would love to most my question there, but I've registered 3 times in the last couple of months and it won't let me register.... keeps saying they will send me my password and it never does.... strange.

[Vundergah]

Strange...anyway, I'm looking at the ta05 also, do you have any regrets of getting your ta05?

[tamiya4x4dryver]

No regrets. It's a well thought out car and a great value. Since nobody would/could answer my question about damaging my diff housings, I went to ebay and bought 2 of the upgraded TA05 diff housings from HongKong ( on ebay ). $25 shipped for the pair. Probably was a wise investment because in my opinion the stock diffs are POO! :)

[Vundergah]

Haha...if you like, you could pm your question again in one paragraph and I'll post it up on the rctech forums.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

I appreciate the offer, but I'm not worried about it now. I ordered the upgraded diff housings so I'll be good to go whenever they arrive from HongKong :)

thanks,
eric

[Vundergah]

Where are you ordering them from?

[TamiyaNut]

Hey guys! I'm currently trying to put in the servo(standard size), but it looks there is no way of mounting it without cutting something off to make room for it. Can you guys recommend a servo? :D :confused:

[elcid4300]

Hey guys! I'm currently trying to put in the servo(standard size), but it looks there is no way of mounting it without cutting something off to make room for it. Can you guys recommend a servo? :D :confused:


You have to cut off a piece of the servo mounting tabs to make it fit, that's the way the kit is designed.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Where are you ordering them from?


Ebay..... Can't think of the sellers username, but several of the HongKong sellers on ebay have them.

[marvi]

Hey guys! I'm currently trying to put in the servo(standard size), but it looks there is no way of mounting it without cutting something off to make room for it. Can you guys recommend a servo? :D :confused:

are you using the stock plastic tub chassis? i dremeled some material off the center chassis stiffeners (a small slot on where the lower servo ear will hit) and installed my standard sized servo :)

[tamiya4x4dryver]

UPDATE: I got my TA05 precision diff housings from HongKong today. I'm kinda disappointed as they are the same plastic diff housings that just have a little ring on the ends that keep the slots from flaring out. Also contains 4 shims. $25?????? I dunno man.... I think the stock diff parts are on a tree for dirt cheap....

[TamiyaNut]

You have to cut off a piece of the servo mounting tabs to make it fit, that's the way the kit is designed.



Thanks for the info. To make servo fit just cut off bottom left mounting tab(with servo facing you in the correct mounting position on the chassis) off the servo. I just don't understand why Tamiya designed it that way, but everythings cool now
:rolleyes: :D

[df78]

hi pros out there,

just got one ta-05 (raybrig) today. any tips for a newbie? this is my first rc car. :D

Thanks.

[cheerwhiner]

first r/c car? well........

take your time building, read isntructions first, GLUE the tires

check the radio before running the car, never leave the car on a surface where the tires can roll (prop it up so it won't start moving on ya)

Watch your gearing, check the motor gear mesh and the motor mount to make sure it stays tight.

Other things should be obvious.

Keep reading this forum too!

[struman1]

hi pros out there,

just got one ta-05 (raybrig) today. any tips for a newbie? this is my first rc car. :D

Thanks.
Stay away from the hop-ups and just drive the car. When you have mastered that and you want to go faster concentrate on better motors, batteries and a descent speed controller. But you still need to drive, drive, drive. I'm always seeing new guys at the track with the latest alum hops and they wonder why they still can't go faster.

[cheerwhiner]

amen. I made that mistake with my ta04.

[df78]

guys. All tips noted :D

[df78]

hey guys, any idea why my car can't go straight?

what should i adjust?

Thanks

[Vundergah]

I'm guessing your toe in/out settings, and also whether the wheels are the way they're suppose to be when you have your steering at neutral.

[df78]

what's toe in/toe out?

[TamiyaNut]

A Perfectly straight set up

Left tire || || Right Tire

Toe in

Left Side// \\ Right Side


Toe out

Left Side \\ // Right Side


;)

[df78]

i followed the instructions manual, which mentioned that the gaps should be of a certain length. what should be the ideal height of my chasis? noticed that my chasis cg is quite low.

[struman1]

hey guys, any idea why my car can't go straight?

what should i adjust?

Thanks
This is a common mistake with newbies. Before installing the servo make sure it is centered. Turn radio on and make sure your left/right steering is at 0. Once you have it centered leave the radio on when you install the servo saver. Make sure your servo saver is installed so that is as close to center as possible. Once you have all the radio gear installed,unplug the motor turn on the car and radio. Once your car is on make sure your steering is not binding and check the wheel alignment. Sometimes the servo saver will not be exactly centered and your can fine tune this with the radio. After adjusting the servo with the radio, your wheels still may not be straight and you should use the steering turnbuckles for this. Make sure the steering turnbuckles match the settings in your manual and adjust from that point. Make sure your radio is on and lengthen/shorten the turnbuckles until the wheels are straight. Try to keep the LH/RH close to the same length.

[df78]

hi guys, car runs straight now. one more thing, if the tension of the belt is loose, how can i tighten it?

i read the manual, but dun get what they are trying to say?

must i dismantle the whole gear box to get it tightened?

Thanks:D

[struman1]

I'm guessing your toe in/out settings, and also whether the wheels are the way they're suppose to be when you have your steering at neutral.

Toe IN/OUT has more influence on the chassis reaction to steering input than on making the car go straight. I'd check the alignment of the servo and servo saver first. If the car is built to spec, it normal goes pretty straight

[rclapcar]

The TA05 has symetrical steering meaning that the turnbuckles that are between the front knuckles and the steering cranks must ALWAYS be identical in lenght. If they are different then the car will respond differently when turning left or right.

As for changing the belt tightness, look at step 3 of the manual. (I will use the bottom left picture for this explanation, you would do the oposite on the other one). If you want to tighten the belt move the A2 piece so that the small dot is further to the left on the teeth. If you want to loose then go the other way. Basically the closer the dots are to the middle of the chassis on both sides the tighter the belt gets. Always make sure the dots are in the same position on both sides of the diff.

[charlieB]

Here is a pic of mine.

All i can say is, i haven't gotten lower than 3rd with this car since i got it. The Flex is a welcomed attribute to it for it gives teh car teh traction it needs. I run both oneways and even if i punch it out of a turn, it still accellerates with out it hooking.

The slightly overweightedness of the car only hinders it in GT2 class(mabuchi), but in all other classes including modified class, i would say it is juts as fast as an Xray, Corally, or a 415 for that matter. Speed definitely isnt an issue with it.

The car just works so well...beating cars that are $200-$300 more than it. When you have a car that you can just drive and not worry about fighting it, you do much better due to less stress. I think the car will be here to stay for a long time..or at least 5 years until they bring out teh TA06.

[df78]

The TA05 has symetrical steering meaning that the turnbuckles that are between the front knuckles and the steering cranks must ALWAYS be identical in lenght. If they are different then the car will respond differently when turning left or right.

As for changing the belt tightness, look at step 3 of the manual. (I will use the bottom left picture for this explanation, you would do the oposite on the other one). If you want to tighten the belt move the A2 piece so that the small dot is further to the left on the teeth. If you want to loose then go the other way. Basically the closer the dots are to the middle of the chassis on both sides the tighter the belt gets. Always make sure the dots are in the same position on both sides of the diff.

thanks for the help. will try that out. by the way, does that mean i will need to take out the parts in item 3 to tighten it?

thanks.

[rclapcar]

To tighten (or loose) the belt you need to take the 4 screws that hold A6 onto the gear box. Then slide out the A11 bits with the diff and all. Then change the position of the A2 pieces in the A11 ones like I said before. Then just do the reverse to reinstall.

[df78]

hi guys belt is now tighter, but do u guys set it to the extreme?

what's the moderate tightness?

Thanks.

[rclapcar]

The ideal tightness is so that when you press down in the middle of the belt it should be able to drop around 1cm (3/8 inch) or so. This should be loose enough to reduce the friction on the belt and pulleys but not so tight that it binds the drivetrain.

[df78]

noted. thanks.

[df78]

hi guys, what are the available options for hops?

can the belt be changed to something better?

Thanks.

[tamiya4x4dryver]

Do any of you guys know if the TA05 and TB02 have the exact same body post locations as far as bodies go??? I want to get the Skyline body that they sell on the TB02 kit and wondered if it would have the "dimples" marked in the right place??

It kinda looks like to me that the TL01, TT-01, TA04 all have the same body hole locations and then it kinda looks to me like the TB02 and the TA05 have the same? Can anyone confirm or deny this?

My F430 Ferrari TA05 body came with 2 front sets of dimples to fit any tamiya touring car, and I was hoping maybe the skyline and impul Z bodies that come with the TB02 kits would have the same 2 sets of dimples (the marks that show you where to ream your body holes)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[TheoDR]

Do any of you guys know if the TA05 and TB02 have the exact same body post locations as far as bodies go??? I want to get the Skyline body that they sell on the TB02 kit and wondered if it would have the "dimples" marked in the right place??

It kinda looks like to me that the TL01, TT-01, TA04 all have the same body hole locations and then it kinda looks to me like the TB02 and the TA05 have the same? Can anyone confirm or deny this?

My F430 Ferrari TA05 body came with 2 front sets of dimples to fit any tamiya touring car, and I was hoping maybe the skyline and impul Z bodies that come with the TB02 kits would have the same 2 sets of dimples (the marks that show you where to ream your body holes)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hello!!! The front body posts on the TA05 and TA04 are the same location (the ones on the bumper, not shock tower) while the rear body posts of the TA05 are wider apart, same location as the TB02's Surikan carbon rear shock tower. Hope this helps!

[TheoDR]

hi guys, what are the available options for hops?

can the belt be changed to something better?

Thanks.
You can change the belt to the Aramid "low friction" belts. A local racer with the Tamiya importer told me that the baseline mods the TA05 really needs are the TRF shocks and universals.

[rclapcar]

Actually the STOCK body mounts on the TA05 and TB02 are identical. I know as I ran my TB02's NSX body on my TA05 before I had the Ferrari body painted. Keep in mind that if you get the optional rear carbon shock tower for the TA05 then the body posts are a bit further apart than the stock positions.