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Specializer
01-31-2005, 06:51 PM
Thinking of a future r/c

how is it?

Ofna Ultra LX Comp RTR w/.26 PS

chevy_94
01-31-2005, 06:59 PM
i hvae heard alot about this buggy from the guys at the lhs and they love it..and they say its the best buggy for its money...and they say its real tough..and fast clocked at 55 by a popo..

Specializer
01-31-2005, 07:09 PM
cool...i dun want a monster truck cause those cost a bunch but a buggy seems kinda nice cause i just got an l3 and its sitting on my shelf waiting to go to a track...i can just run the buggy outside or on a construction site....this buy will be in a year or 2 though

cool head
01-31-2005, 08:55 PM
thats gotta be the worst buggy on the market. can anyone else think of a weeker buggy than the ofna ultra?.....maybe the duratrax axis.
hot bodies lighning or xtm x-terminater would be a better choice.

Specializer
01-31-2005, 09:18 PM
i see im getting mixed input here...C.J.OO, what u think?

Specializer
01-31-2005, 09:45 PM
so what, this?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDAT0&P=ML

C.J.OO
01-31-2005, 10:01 PM
Yeah I'd Probably lean towards the H/B.or the XTM..
thats probably the Better Choice..
I have to agree with coolhead here..(once again)..
out here in Aus the XTM's are called REX-X's and there quite Popular with the First time Racers..
I have seen No Breakages Yet what so ever so there quite Tuff..
You cant beat the price $300 for a 1/8 buggy is a good start..;)

I just saw if you saved an extra $130 you can get the Hyper 7 thats a much better choice...
in my honest opinion the Hyper7 will be the Verry best and you can Hop it up to a Full Race spec Buggy quite easily....

shadmaster4
01-31-2005, 10:09 PM
C.J.OO the axis is a beast. Mine has never broke. I have had it for 2 years.. and run in about 3x a week, at a construction site.... :)

OK, but for a cheap/race buggy.. i suggest the lightning or hyper 7. Those rock!

chevy_94
01-31-2005, 10:13 PM
you are gonna get so many opinions now and everyone is gonna say so many different things...just go with what you like best and what ur lhs carries the most of and see what ppl at the local track run..and think whats best for racing...

Specializer
01-31-2005, 10:36 PM
lol...i aint even getting anything yet...and plus my parents will snap again cause i had a bad experience with nitro so i got out of it and now if i get back in it theyll be all pissed...first they are like whateve, ur making a bad choice but its ur money so get it..so then i will feel guilty and have second thoughts...i shouldnt have sold my smartech, no matter how bad it was....

docman2
01-31-2005, 11:27 PM
thats gotta be the worst buggy on the market. can anyone else think of a weeker buggy than the ofna ultra?.....maybe the duratrax axis.
hot bodies lighning or xtm x-terminater would be a better choice.

I can tell you he must not have one. I do! Its a great buggy and has been really tough. Ive run it every weekend against PCRs,PBSs, and even a Kyosho and always run 1st or 2nd. Thats without changing the grease in the diffs to diff oil. So dont believe the negative hype. Plus you really cant beat the price. Its a lot of bang for your buck. If you call Ultimate Hobbies I think you can get one shipped for about $240. It dosnt get much better than that.

TC3Racer
01-31-2005, 11:50 PM
A friend of mine races his Ultra LX Comp and its definitely a solid buggy for the money. The engine broke in nicely and runs pretty well. Not as much low end punch as i would like but with some tuning its not bad.

chevy94 i dont know who told you it goes 55 and was clocked by a cop but that is total BS... a Kyosho K3 with a Sirio engine barely hits 50 :D .

BishopRyan
02-01-2005, 12:23 AM
I'm thinking kyosho 7.5rtr or ofna violator i need opinions good bad and ugly

atm92484_3
02-01-2005, 12:34 AM
The only option worse than both of those would be something Ultra based.

If you're doing an 1/8 scale RTR, Hot Bodies, Sportwerks, and XTM are your best options. However no one makes a RTR 1/8 scale that is truely RTR. All of them need a pair of high torque, metal geared servos (about $35 a piece) to be truely ready to go.

BishopRyan
02-01-2005, 12:36 AM
i hear hotbodies all the time i dont see why it would be better than a 7.5 kyosho or 9.5 ofna hotbodies makes me wonder

atm92484_3
02-01-2005, 12:48 AM
Well the 9.5's in general are outdated and heavy buggies and their quality isn't all that great. The Violator just adds more bad designs into the package with those wonderful arms and non-standard universals, not to mention the king pin suspension.

As for the 7.5 RTR, its not worth it; this coming from a huge Kyosho 1/8 guy. I love my Kanais, but the 7.5 RTR is a little on the pricy side considering you get a RTR buggy with a plastic spur, no engine mounts (engine is fixed to chassis), no turnbuckles, and dogbones all around. The 7.5 RTR's also do not have hardened ring and pinion gears in the differentials and I'm pretty sure they only include 4 gears inside of the diffs instead of the usual 6. On a positive note though, Racer's Edge aluminum parts for the 7.5's are dirt cheap on Ebay now.

The Lightning on the other hand is based very closely on the 7.5's, but unlike the 7.5 RTR, the Lightning RTR comes with a steel spur, front unis, and you don't need to invest more money in engine mounts and clutch parts just to swap engines down the road. Unlike the Kyosho, the HB does have hardened ring and pinion gears and 6 gears in the diffs. Plus HB parts are less expensive; if you're buying a RTR, you probably aren't looking to spend a ton of cash anyways.

-=ADA$=-
02-01-2005, 03:16 AM
Ive never had anything broke on my cheapo OFNA, and i bashed the hell out of it, so i wouldnt say its weak, its no where near weak actaully.

And about 9.5 i wouldnt say so, ive compared mine to K3, MBX5 prospec, XB-8, kyosho mp7.5 sport, x-terminator, and i cant say the quality is so poor, the parts fit and finish is very nice, only thing is that a-arms had to be grinded slightly to fit between moutings. I yet have to check how those top end buggies handle compared to my 9.5 but after driving K3 i like ofna better

cool head
02-01-2005, 10:02 AM
Well the 9.5's in general are outdated and heavy buggies and their quality isn't all that great. The Violator just adds more bad designs into the package with those wonderful arms and non-standard universals, not to mention the king pin suspension.

As for the 7.5 RTR, its not worth it; this coming from a huge Kyosho 1/8 guy. I love my Kanais, but the 7.5 RTR is a little on the pricy side considering you get a RTR buggy with a plastic spur, no engine mounts (engine is fixed to chassis), no turnbuckles, and dogbones all around. The 7.5 RTR's also do not have hardened ring and pinion gears in the differentials and I'm pretty sure they only include 4 gears inside of the diffs instead of the usual 6. On a positive note though, Racer's Edge aluminum parts for the 7.5's are dirt cheap on Ebay now.

The Lightning on the other hand is based very closely on the 7.5's, but unlike the 7.5 RTR, the Lightning RTR comes with a steel spur, front unis, and you don't need to invest more money in engine mounts and clutch parts just to swap engines down the road. Unlike the Kyosho, the HB does have hardened ring and pinion gears and 6 gears in the diffs. Plus HB parts are less expensive; if you're buying a RTR, you probably aren't looking to spend a ton of cash anyways.

couldn't have said it better myself!

docman2, if all your gonna do with it is run around consruction sites with one, then it's not a bad basher. i did own one (lx comp), and i was the laughing stock at the track. it was the worst buggy i could have bought, and only paid $100 for it almost new condition. it was such a POS and ofna support was so terrible, i vowed to testify to the rest of the world about my experience. i've had an x-terminater for 2 yrs and havn't broke anything accept the front gear case. the reason LHS's like to sell ofna cars is because they know you'll be back for parts every week. i have a minimum fo 12 stripped ring gears and 15 bent axels all as a sesult of trying to race the thing. ofna cars are nose divers, so it would cartwheels at least everyother lap. every other 1/8 buggy i've driven has handled and jumped way better.

docman2
02-01-2005, 10:39 AM
It sounds to me from what you say the problem was more of a "learning to drive" thing. If you kept cartwheeling it then something has to give and stuff will break. Thats normal. If yours was nose diving then that was due to throttle control. We have about 15 different people running Ofnas at our track and nobody has had that problem. I sure dont. Ive ran mine since they came out and have never stripped a gear. You have probably had better luck with the second buggy due to more wheel time so your not hitting things as much or as hard.
As far as the "LHS selling Parts", thats funny. The owner of my LHS complains that the problem with him is he dosnt sell OFNA parts because people are not breaking any. He sells a lot of Traxxas and HPI but the OFNA stuff just hangs on the wall.

Either way it really makes no difference since the guy is just looking for an inexpensive beater and not a full blown racer. Plus he is looking to buy in a year or two. By then there will be neww stuff out to replace these buggies anyway.

metalry101
02-01-2005, 01:51 PM
Don't by an XTM. Yeah, the buggy is pretty decent, and priced competively, but they get all of that back on parts. Seriously, when you break an XTM you might as well just bend over. I stripped a spur gear on my Mammoth a while back and it cost me 10 bux for a new one. WTH is that? A Savage spur is only 4 bux, why 10 for a Mammoth one? Even spurs for my RS4 MT (which are laced w/ carbon fiber), are only 4 bux.

For what the average person uses a buggy for, the Ofna is a great buggy. I would personally stay way away from the H.B. and even farther away from the Kyosho. I think the Kyosho is FAR AND AWAY the worst RTR buggy on the market in terms of value. 450 bux for a 35 mph strip model? The 300 dollar Ofna will do 50, and the XTM will do 45+. Personally, I say go for the Ofna. If you don't mind getting raped on parts prices, the XTM is a good buggy, but not many places sell them, so you'll be getting parts from the internet. Paying extra, having to wait, and having to pay shipping kinda eliminates a lot of the advantages of the XTM.

cool head
02-01-2005, 03:59 PM
if you do a comparison of ofna, HB and XTM parts prices, you'll see that ofna parts are more expensive.

metalry101
02-01-2005, 04:43 PM
Ofna parts aren't real cheap either, that's true. However, they can be had in any hobby shop, whereas XTM parts cannot. Even if the shop doesn't stock many Ofna parts, they should be able to order them. Very, very few hobby shops don't deal w/ GP, but more than a few don't do Global. Personally, I don't support Global. I've heard how they conduct business and don't care for it. Not that GP is perfect by any means...but I just do not care for Global.

C.J.OO
02-01-2005, 07:42 PM
I'm thinking kyosho 7.5rtr or ofna violator i need opinions good bad and ugly


LOL.. :rolleyes:

Are you For REALL..???...
did you read any of the Posts.?.

Specializer
02-01-2005, 07:48 PM
back off, get ur own thread ya jacker :rolleyes:

P.S. they are free ;)