RC to MX

[FMX_Redth]

interesting... it seems as if more than just a few rc'ers here also have some involvement in the sport of motocross...

just wondering how many people actually are involved in dirtbiking or have dirtbikes or whatever you will...

personally i have a 93' RM125...... i love dirtbiking just as much if not more than RC!

[JP]

Yea, it does seem like that. In fact, a lot of MX pros drive R/C, they say it improves...something...(I read it in Dirtbike Magazine or Motocross Action). It is pretty ironic.

BTW, I own a RT100 (gunna sell) and a 2001 Yz80.

[rc51racerx]

yamaha and suzuki fans huh. I race motocross here, I ride 250 class, with the old guys since I'm 19 and can't race with the young ones. I'm hurt right now, missed a jump.. pretty nasty sight, but I love r/c cars and trucks. I'm prob gonna get into airplanes here soon. I have not read anything about r/c improving riding, but it can help with picking lines, which sometimes decides the winner and loser in a tight mx track.
-John
I race a y2k+1 CR250 and still have my 96 CR125. looking at getting a yamaha yz250f for my gf to ride. anyone heard anything on that?

[FMX_Redth]

hmm.. i wish i had the cash to buy a newer bike than a 93... but oh well any bike is better than none :) especially since im just a casual rider.....

the yz250f looks sweet... that would be my ideal bike.... i've heard many a good things about it... talked to a few guys who own it.. they say it jumps great and is an all around great bike...

rc51racerx - if you're out, why don't u send over that cr to me ? ;) u don't have ne use for it now!

as for rc improving mx, never heard about that.... its just kinda ironic... i guess if u generally like one, chances are u like the other!

[Skateboarder]

I ride, Im 17 and I have a 83 :) honda cr 80 that I just bough in september. I know its just an 80cc but its still really fun to drive and with it Ill get used to jumping and stuff but I do plan on getting something more powerfull in the futur.

[xxxmain]

I totally love both MX and RC. Me and my friends watch MX videos all the time (I think we own over 30 now). That is what got me stoked on making an RC video. The MX videos are so amazing I wanted to film an RC video in the same way.

I've been in RC for over 15 years and finally got into a dirtbike. Just picked up a 95 KX 125. Still scary for me since I've never been on a bike with an engine before.

RC and MX, I think we can learn a lot about our industry from theirs.

Lates,

Jeff
xxx main (http://www.xxxmain.com)

[Big Wig]

I ride a '01 KTM E/XC 250 (moved up from a Kawy KDX 220) and I race harescramles,... tons of fun! I just got out for my first trail ride on the new bike yesterday and it was awesome!

Some of my riding buddies are into RC and we'll be building a track in my backyard this summer.

BTW - At a recent supercross, Davey Coombs was interveiwing Jeremy McGrath and JM was taking about good times racing RC cars! I thought that was cool

[rc51racerx]

McGrath should retire and save his name. He DID dominate the 250 class, but is falling behind. Let it go, you and Emig go play with eachother at the local track and live on the money you have made on endorsements.

-John

[rcracer_xxxt_futaba]

I have a 99' CR80 and my bro has a 2001 250, I race also, Acually I race both :D :D ;)

[Big Wig]

rc51racerx,

Hmmmm, let's see: McGrath won 3 SX titles, had one bad year then won 4 more in a row. He's won 70 some odd 250 main events and is the winningest rider in all of motorcycle racing. RC has won 10 supercrosses - whoopdy doo. I'm a RC (Ricky Carmichael) fan but don't count out the champ quite yet - the kid is riding on the edge and he's asking for trouble. He just might claim the title this year but the king will be back next year - I think he'll try for 8 before he quits and that will be tough to beat.

Also, McGrath is 2nd in points. Do you really think the current 2nd best rider in the world should give up? How would you like to be the 2nd fastest RC racer in the world? That's pretty heavy stuff :D

[Pat]

hi im not into dirtbikes i like them but my dad wont let me have one but the real reason i am posting it RC improve i hand coordination and also videogames do to. I rode a quad with a clutch for the first time last week and i didnt stall once while my brothers stalled non stop and they are 4 and 6 years older than me. :)

[FMX_Redth]

well, i just finally got the 1994 RM125.. WOW.. lol first time ridin a 125... im soo stoked... i had an xr100r before.. this is soo great... i love it soo much... anyways, this was interesting to see that there are quite a bit of people involved with both RC and MX!

[Bodido]

I used to race as a teen. Miss it quite a bit lately. My last bike was an 88 cr250. Man, I'm gettin old. I'd like to get another, but all the good riding spots I used to go to are pretty much gone.

I just can't think of many sports more hardcore than mx. :p

[rc51racerx]

big wig--
for the longest time I was a diehard JM fan. I detested JE and RC is by far the fastest I have ever seen. I saw him when he was still racing back at the Lorettas in 95 and 96. JM knows he is the stuff, and RC knows he has a name to take down. I don't necessarily view JM as a bad rider, he is probably by far the most talented rider in a long time to take the 30sec board. I just think that once your heart is gone from it, the pleasure of watching you ride dies out. I like RC because he hangs on the edge, and he does it because he loves what he is doing and knows he has to run hard to stand out. JM knows he can lose everything and everyone will still remember him as a great. BTW have you seen that guy mark paul-gossellar ride? he was that kid off saved by the bell. I found that really quite interesting that he got into it. I respect JM for his accomplishments, and will openly recognize him for them. I just think he doesn't race all heart anymore.

thats my opinion, but we are all entitled to have one. You appear to be a diehard dirtbiker, so rock on bro its all good. we gotta stick together in both our interests.

-John

[Big Wig]

rc51racerx,

I respect your opinions 100%. I really believe that JM is just having one bad season,... and it sure didn't start out bad. I think he'll be back for the attack next year and I also think RC deserves the title this year. I can handle JM losing the throne for a year but if he doesn't get it back I'll be truly bummed - it will be the end of an era :(

No, I haven't seen that kid from saved by the bell ride,... any good?

It's cool so many folks here are into riding :D

[rc51racerx]

big wig,
I haven't seen him ride either, thats why I asked apparently he was in on that MTV motocross thing they did where the VJ's raced with the pros for some stunt show they were doing. I hope he comes back one more time to win it and seal himself too, but I hope that he doesn't try to do the micheal jordan thing and come back after he quits, play, quit, and if I heard correctly MJ is trying to come back again. Once its done, its done. JM has a legacy that no other rider can really speak for, and I hope that he goes out on top once more as well.

later
-John

[cams]

Im into dirtbikes (91 RM125 91 CR250) but more into quads, I have a 2001 raptor and 96 banshee :D :D

[Nairb]

You guys ever play Motocross Madness 2? I have it and it is very cool. For all you beginners, playing this game can help out with off-road R/C racing. It'll teach you how to jump, control your car in the air, and a lot of other things, not to mention importance of timing & rhythm. Check it out!!

[pmpnep]

I'm 13 and have a 1994 YZ 80 with a FMF power core silencer and a FMF Fatty. My brother has a huge Kawasaki 82' KDX 450. I also have a Team T3, he has a Stampede. I have a 1998 Arctic Cat ZL 440 and he has a 1996 Arctic Cat ZRT 600. Just thought I might add that because maybe some of you guys have snowmobiles.Anyone seen the Crusty's videos.
I seen #2 ;)

[FMX_Redth]

this is very cool to see all the riders here!!!.

yes i've played mcm2.. was very involved in that community.... it is a good game, but not that good...

try Motocross Mania..... it is about 10x better in physics... the graphics are very comparable, and it handles soo much better...

i'd like to introduce you to
<a href="http://www.mxmaniacentral.com">http://www.mxmaniacentral.com</a>

actually i founded this site... its about motocross mania... it is a fantastic game.. check it out!!!

[rc51racerx]

cam,
I used to work at a motorcycle dealership, we had a lot across the street we put a few jumps in to take off roads out after we worked on em. Lots of people brought our bikes out to have them ridden and tuned, I rode mostly the hondas and suzukis because I have raced both brands, but I had some time to get on some banshees... silly fast machine, I love em. the raptor is more of a big thumper with tremendous power, I liked ridinig it a lot, but I fell in love with the banshee when I rode one at a track for a kid. I will always be a CR guy at heart though. Suzuki does have a killer bike this year and I almost picked that as my sponsored ride.

for the video game guys, I myself like EA sports supercross. as far as getting realistic goes that one has a lot of it. I'm a psx fan as well so...

later all
-John

[cams]

Yeah I im a diehard 2-Stroke guy. My 52 year old dad rides the raptor (hes crazy!) and a whoop his but on the shee :D But as lond as you can keep the front end on the ground, its the most extreme andrenalene rush on 4 wheels! :cool:

[cams]

sorry double post, but i just wanted to point out how much i stink at typing!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Nairb]

Oh, I've had the MxMania demo for a while. It's cool, but I don't agree that the physics are great. I'll give it another try, though...

[rc51racerx]

cams-

The fun BEGINS when you rip the throttle and shoot the front end toward the sky. If you really are getting on them then its nearly impossible to keep that front wheel planted. I find my front wheel barely skimming the dirt when I'm on top of the throttle. From the moment I start the engine though its pure adrenaline driving me. I don't care what goes on, what risk it is, I do it. Stupid maybe, but you put it all out on the line, and thats when its a rush. BUT just because your front end isn't planted doesn't mean you are fast. Your dad isn't crazy for riding the raptor. My grandfather took my new FMF tuned CR250 for a midnight ride on the track in his field. no lights. thats nuts. he is 66.

later all
-John

[chucksolo]

I'm 47 and rode motocross back in the 70's those were the days of two rear shocks and 4 to 6" of suspension trave front and rear. I rode a Kawasaki 250cc in Amateur class at Carlsbad Raceway CA which used to be the home of the US 500 and 250cc Grand Prixs. Back then we raced against some really exotic machines like Montessa, Bultaco, Ossa, KTM and Maico as well as all the Japanese bikes. It is the need for speed in motor sports that I think got me into nitro R/C. If I can't ride any more at least I can pilot a miniature car that sounds like my old bike. Anybody remember Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Brad Lackey, Tony DiStefano and of course Roger DeCoster and Heikke Mikola? Those were champions guys.

[rc51racerx]

I have heard of them. I train with a friend of mine who used to race the pro circuit and had a factory ride with Honda and Yamaha. He works on my bike now, and we go out to the local races together to race, I get speeding tickets on the way to them. anyway I know of the old guys. You left out cagiva bro. ;-)

[chucksolo]

I'm 47 and rode motocross back in the 70's those were the days of two rear shocks and 4 to 6" of suspension trave front and rear. I rode a Kawasaki 250cc in Amateur class at Carlsbad Raceway CA which used to be the home of the US 500 and 250cc Grand Prixs. Back then we raced against some really exotic machines like Montessa, Bultaco, Ossa, KTM and Maico as well as all the Japanese bikes. It is the need for speed in motor sports that I think got me into nitro R/C. If I can't ride any more at least I can pilot a miniature car that sounds like my old bike. Anybody remember Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Brad Lackey, Tony DiStefano and of course Roger DeCoster and Heikke Mikola? Those were champions guys.

[chucksolo]

I'm 47 and rode motocross back in the 70's those were the days of two rear shocks and 4 to 6" of suspension trave front and rear. I rode a Kawasaki 250cc in Amateur class at Carlsbad Raceway CA which used to be the home of the US 500 and 250cc Grand Prixs. Back then we raced against some really exotic machines like Montessa, Bultaco, Ossa, KTM and Maico as well as all the Japanese bikes. It is the need for speed in motor sports that I think got me into nitro R/C. If I can't ride any more at least I can pilot a miniature car that sounds like my old bike. Anybody remember Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Brad Lackey, Tony DiStefano and of course Roger DeCoster and Heikke Mikola? Those were champions guys.

[chucksolo]

I'm 47 and rode motocross back in the 70's those were the days of two rear shocks and 4 to 6" of suspension trave front and rear. I rode a Kawasaki 250cc in Amateur class at Carlsbad Raceway CA which used to be the home of the US 500 and 250cc Grand Prixs. Back then we raced against some really exotic machines like Montessa, Bultaco, Ossa, KTM and Maico as well as all the Japanese bikes. It is the need for speed in motor sports that I think got me into nitro R/C. If I can't ride any more at least I can pilot a miniature car that sounds like my old bike. Anybody remember Jammin' Jimmy Weinert, Brad Lackey, Tony DiStefano and of course Roger DeCoster and Heikke Mikola? Those were champions guys.

[just_dune_it]

Posted by rc51racerX: "McGrath should retire and save his name. He DID dominate the 250 class, but is falling behind. Let it go, you and Emig go play with eachother at the local track and live on the money you have made on endorsements."
-John

Guys, McGrath has dominated for so many years with practicaly no competition. He will always be remembered as one of the best riders of all time. He's had the spotlight for so long, it may not be a rush for him to get 1st anymore. But then again, he could be having just a bad season. He might come back next year and kill the competition like he always has. He has 1 bad season, and everyone says he's washed up, a has-been, no-good, now in RC's shadow. He has raised the bar for himself so far, that now WHENEVER he has a bad season, or even a race, everyone flips out. He could be just taking a break for a while, or just tired of racing. NEVER count him out. I won't think anything less of him UNTIL RC or whoever beats his records of supercross and season wins. Cut him a break.

Anyway, I love MX, on cycles, and especially quads. Hey Cams, how do ya like yer Raptor? Got one too. Black and White. It HAULS. Had to gear it down. But man, I love those 2-strokers. Nothin like the smell of Castrol in the mornin, well, not too much of it anyway. Out of the Banshee, and the Raptor, I can't chose a favorite. I like the 2-strokes zippiness, and smell, and sound, and feel, but I like the power of the 660 thumper, the wheelies, and of course, the loudness w/an aftermarket pipe.

Well anyway, just tryin to defend 'ol McGrath.

[rc51racerx]

dune-

I think you got me wrong on this bro. I don't think less of McGrath because he isn't winning everything he enters. I race the sport, and I know that for pure competition you have a shorter shelf life than say for Cal Ripken and baseball. McGrath is one of the greatest riders of the 90's I wouldn't put him as the best because to be honest the bikes they have now to ride are TONS better than the bikes of late 70's early 80's. Read my post a few posts down where I explain myself more in a response to big wig. I think you guys are all a little defensive along with McGrath. I'm saying that he could throw in the towel now, and Everyone would think him the greatest. If he races another season like the latter part of this one then he is going to start having a lot of speculation go around. like I said, Michael Jordan was the greatest at BBALL, but if he tries for another come back a lot of people are gonna think he just can't let go and needs to. McGrath could stop riding pro, and race at the Loretta's in the vet class, and he would dominate, but look at RC the kid is young, determined, and most of all HUNGRY!!! It takes a lot to go out there and beat yourself to beat other people, I know there have been times I rode so hard that I wanted to collapse after the race. I'm not dissin on JM I'm just saying that this may be the end of his era, and I would hate to seem him be one of those guys that can't let go and stays around way too long.

--John

[JP]

oh geez, i forget...too lazy to click the back button too

[FMX_Redth]

Nairb,

:D you are what we call mcm2 junky.. lol.. most people that come from mcm2 have a real hard time getting used to mxmania and therefore dislike it a lot... it takes awhile to get used to, but is soo much more realistic.. turning, you can powerslide... there's no floaty feeling in the air, the whoops are WAY better on mxmania than mcm2...

textures are a whopping 3061x3061 on mxmania (resolution) compared to 256x256 on mcm2...

the track editor for mxmania works.. the graphics may not be as great as mcm2, but on par enough for me and most users....

there is water in the game... you can do backflips and rolls...

once most get used to it, they realise how much more control there is in mxmania....

both are fantastic games... but i just believe microsoft has fallen short (especially on not releasing any patches)... mcm1 was fantastic... mcm2 is great... mxmania is better... and the developer (deibus) supports the game like mad...

enough of my ranting.... the truth is that any motocross fan should own BOTH of these titles....

as for ea sports ... i played ea supercross 2k on n64 and it is absolutely horrible. (no offence)... no excitebike for NES... thats a good game....

btw.. mxmania is selling for as low as 9.99 US in some places... not a bad deal at all.. .

[Nairb]

Sweet price! One of my biggest problems with MxMania is that I couldn't reassign the buttons in the demo (IIRC), but I'm sure that's different in the full version. I just might have to buy it for $10 if I get my joystick working again (dang brother! :(). If you reccomend it so fully, it's definitely worth another shot.

[Nairb]

I noticed how sweet the textures were in MxMania, too. Those jerseys look awesome! There's definitely a LOT of color depth goin' on there...

[rc51racerx]

FMX-
I was talking about EA SX for psx systems, same game I know, but I found it to be very realistic in track layout, and bike handling. It took some getting used to not holding the bars, but a lot of the same clutch throttle and brake actuation I use when I race, is the same that I use in the game. You have to realize that its not all about rippin the throttle power clutching and clickin the gearbox, its about hanging on and shifting weight, squeezing with one leg to shift weight, balance. Racing competitive is more body placement and motion than clutch shift throttle brake. That just can't be put into a game.. I haven't played either of the two that you guys are talking about, I'm not big into video games really. don't get me wrong you have to be silky smooth on and off the throttle, brake, clutch to push the bike where you want it, but you can be even more effective when you use your body to place the bike as well. my 2/100ths of a dollar.

--John

[FLYBOY7]

to the guy that thinks Mc is "having a bad year"... LOL...

Mc is getting spanked by Opie for a couple reasons....

1. Opie wants it more (i mean.. Big Mac already won the 250 sx title 7 times....)

2. Opie hit the season in SHAPE.... Mc can't "vacation" all summer and fall and expect to be in tip-top shape come january.... he got away with it for years... but not anymore...

should Mc retire??? well he has one more year left on his contract... so he will race Sx for one more year.... but i have the feeling he won't keep racing if he isnt winning after that... (like he did with mx)...

[FMX_Redth]

yeah rc, i understand what you are saying about ea sports sx... it is unique in that way, i just don't like it nearly enough as pc games... on the n64 version there were invisible barriers, and objects weren't too great... the tracks were ok, but overall i just didn't like the game...


umm in mxmania full version i am pretty sure that you can reassign controls... heh you are a joystick person nairb, arent u? lol.. joysticks don't work the best with mxmania (although not too bad).... but gamepads are probably the best.... yeah give the game a go. for 10 bucks or so , not bad... and i was talking to the developers the other day, and was reassured that there will most likely be another patch coming out for it to improve multiplay, etc..

[Skateboarder]

Hey could some of you guys help me out. I have a 83 cr 80. Anyway I dont know what fuel mixture I have to do. The guy that I bought it off of said that it is a 20 to 1 mixture but Im not sure if he is right.
Thanks