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paragod
01-16-2005, 10:14 AM
Hi
Nice forum I just got a Nitro Vee I love the sport I had a blast! My first day with boat on its 3rd tank one of the batteris fell out of the cradle and the boat went wide open in to the weeds :eek: I finally made over there to kill the engine. I figured it was fryed It fired back up tried again ran good then the radio or transmitter messed up and the boat went in a hard circle in the middle of the lake for a full tank of nitro :eek: had to swim out and get it in the 60 degree water :mad: Now the engine is really fryed Iam new but what I would call the head gasket was blown had fuel leaking out between the head and cylinder. I took it apart and flipped the gasket put the head back on and we are running again :p. My question I want a different radio so I cant use with this boat and different ones because I think Iam going to buy another after I finish killing this one :p Ran yesterday for awhile then sheared the plastic prop :rolleyes: I give up !!!!!!!!!!!
scorpien boats
01-16-2005, 11:09 AM
i don't understand ur question..??
Doubledog
01-16-2005, 11:25 AM
Howdy.
abx131
01-16-2005, 11:31 AM
If I understand your question, you are asking about multichannel programable radios. Yes they will allow you to use the same handset for different boats and just change the frequency for which ever item you are running. Another cheaper way is to just buy the same frequency for each toy you run. The only problem with that is you cant run any of them together at the same time.
dannyUAL767
01-16-2005, 02:42 PM
I'll try to help.
My first day with boat on its 3rd tank one of the batteris fell out of the cradle and the boat went wide open in to the weeds
If your cradle is the "open" type, then put some rubber bands around the batteries after you insert them. This is what I do and it should keep them in the cradle.
It fired back up tried again ran good then the radio or transmitter messed up and the boat went in a hard circle in the middle of the lake for a full tank of nitro had to swim out and get it in the 60 degree water
When I first read this, I thought that you had a momentary radio glitch. It wouldn't have lasted for an entire tank, though :eek: . I solved my frequent radio glitch problems by going to an FM radio. Its all I'll buy now ;) . Do you think that you might have gotten some water in your receiver during the first mishap?
This may be obvious but when you went out for your chilly swim, was the boat within fishing pole casting distance? If so, do like I and many others do-use a fishing pole with a tennis ball or some other type of device at the end to "snag" your boat and reel it in.
paragod
01-16-2005, 03:39 PM
Sorry I was having fun rambiling. Yes my ? was on the multi transmitter The one I have now AM correct ? and I can change this boat 2 a Fm transmitter ? That would mean a new reciver correct do u have two replace servos? I did read some were to make me a fishing pole and a ball I tried but could nt catch it since it was still running in circle not getting any water :eek: to the enigne since it was in a left turn and the water pick up is on the right so it didnt get much if any the engine is a nice black color now :rolleyes:
paragod
01-16-2005, 03:41 PM
I think Iam going to get one of those fail safe switchs ? What do u think of those?
dannyUAL767
01-16-2005, 09:05 PM
Well, I'd suggest that you figure out what caused the boat to go in circles for so long. Like I said earlier, all of my AM radio glitches were short events. No more than a 1-5 seconds. It sounds like you lost complete radio contact/control :eek: .
Are you sure that a battery didn't pop out again? For your boat to have been in a constant turn, either it lost power and stuck in that left rudder position or something was giving the receiver the left rudder signal.
When you got the boat back after it ran out of fuel, did you have radio control of it when you swam back to shore with it?
paragod
01-16-2005, 09:11 PM
It was batteries both times once in the boat and the other power failure in the transmitter I got some rubber bands for the boat not sure about the transmitter kind of cheezey :)
scorpien boats
01-16-2005, 10:26 PM
wrap a piece of duct tape around the battery pack reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaal tight, it will keep the batteries in... (i had the same problem)
dannyUAL767
01-16-2005, 11:51 PM
Was the transmitter power failure due to one of the batteries coming out or not making good contact?
Watercadet
01-19-2005, 02:43 AM
I have a N. Vee and have had many of your problems. The stock radio system can be replaced with a "better" system (one type of which would be an FM system like Danny mentioned). That would entail a transmitter and corresponding reciever.
The servos don't need to be replaced unless they have suffered water dammage as well.
The failsafe won't do any good if there is no power. It only works in the event of loss of signal. The radio system that comes with it is adequate in that respect. The newer AM systems are as good as the older FM systems.
There should be a zip tie that holds the battery cage to the motor plate and that will hold the cells in there too.
The head shim (gasket as you called it) is not easly dammaged and won't blow out like an automotive one will. The head button goes into the cylinder and all the shim does is regulate head clearence/compression ratio.
If there is good "squeez" at the top of the stroke on your motor don't do and buy a new one. Even if there is a loss of compression all that is needed to freshen up your motor is a new piston and sleeve. It will require a break in period like the original don't forget.
Adam
CFRACR
01-19-2005, 06:38 AM
It was batteries both times once in the boat and the other power failure in the transmitter I got some rubber bands for the boat not sure about the transmitter kind of cheezey :)
Nitro will eat up rubber bands in a hearbeat. Unless you want to go through the same mishap again use something else. (Pull ties work well)
dannyUAL767
01-19-2005, 11:25 AM
Nitro will eat up rubber bands in a hearbeat. Unless you want to go through the same mishap again use something else. (Pull ties work well)
Good point but only if your battery box is openly exposed in your engine compartment for all of your leaking fuel and water to get on!
I'm not familiar with the NV so maybe the battery box is openly exposed to all the elements :confused: . Most nitro and gas boats will have a separate enclosed radio box protecting the electronics from water and fuel. My battery boxes have the cells secured into the holders with rubber bands and then everything is put into a rubber balloon. Finally, it all goes into the radio box. If nitro gets on to my rubber bands there, I've got more problems than just worrying about my rubber bands disintegrating :eek: !
Watercadet
01-19-2005, 01:42 PM
Good point but only if your battery box is openly exposed in your engine compartment for all of your leaking fuel and water to get on!
I'm not familiar with the NV so maybe the battery box is openly exposed to all the elements :confused: . Most nitro and gas boats will have a separate enclosed radio box protecting the electronics from water and fuel. My battery boxes have the cells secured into the holders with rubber bands and then everything is put into a rubber balloon. Finally, it all goes into the radio box. If nitro gets on to my rubber bands there, I've got more problems than just worrying about my rubber bands disintegrating :eek: !
The N. Vee doezn't have a radio box. The batterys are right out there in the open next to the motor. Rubber bands will take some nitro abuse. I run 50%-60% and use rubber bands to hold my tanks down. Most racers do. :cool:
Adam
dannyUAL767
01-19-2005, 03:15 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Watercadet.
I use rubber bands to hold the tank in my Dumas DV20. They last a while.
paragod
01-19-2005, 03:27 PM
Is there a place that I can get a radio box or what would u make one out of ?
Watercadet
01-19-2005, 03:58 PM
There is not one made for the N. Vee that I have seen and I doubt that there will be one. If you were to make one more power to you but it might be more hassle than it is worth on that boat. It was rare in my experiences with that boat to flip but the occational barrel roll usually rited itself. The only water that damaged it was what came over with a spin. If you bring it in after a spin and pour the water out you will be happier. I would use 1/16 ply from the LHS for a box. The money and effort might be better suited on a new boat.
Adam
CFRACR
01-20-2005, 06:32 AM
Is there a place that I can get a radio box or what would u make one out of ?
If you really want a radio box, then a small tupperware container may work out for you. Finding one that will fit m,ight be the challange for that boat, but may be doable.
Or just keep it the way it is, pull tie or rubber band your gear. Stuff them in balloons, seal them off & secure them. There are many ways to waterproof your gear & attach it.
scorpien boats
01-20-2005, 09:04 AM
i had that boat a year ago.... i have found that. the radio "platform" is so bad that it is good... the water runs right off it..
if I were you i would put a baloon around ur reciever,try waterproofing your servo and find a good way to keep the batteries in (pull tie). After that you should be good to go (as i was)
hope this helps
scorpien boats
01-20-2005, 09:06 AM
oh and take that little plastic cover off the radio platform it only holds in moisture.
I also took the plastic liner out of the bottom of the boat because one fuel gets in there u cant get it out. (and fuel gets in very easily)
paragod
01-20-2005, 06:29 PM
Ok I have followed advice I have the boat apart have new prop new shaft new cooling upgrade. But the diagram shows water going thru the exhaust manifold with the new set up ? Do I need to change the exhaust also ? Cooling kit came from FunrcBoats looks nice and will for sure move more cooling water but cant hook it up per the directions. Thanks for all the help Guys!
bestmaxx
01-20-2005, 06:32 PM
I am new and Dont know what to do?
I belive that came from good ole Joe Dirte'
Watercadet
01-20-2005, 07:51 PM
The newer Vees had a Tee fitting off the outlet side of the water cooling lines that hooked up to a nipple on the muffler. Don't need to run it that way.
Adam
paragod
01-20-2005, 09:00 PM
so just run it the way it was but with the bigger water pickup ?
Watercadet
01-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Yes, and the nipples in the head could use a drill bit passed through as well as larger silicone lines to and from the head.
Adam
paragod
01-20-2005, 10:06 PM
What are the little chrome cylinders with the set screw called that hold the rudder control wires in place from the servo's? Please haveone with a stripped set screw.
paragod
01-20-2005, 10:07 PM
This new hobby is becoming a pain in the boat. Its as bad as a big one and I have 3 of those holes in the water !
zakerid
01-21-2005, 09:19 AM
I think Iam going to get one of those fail safe switchs ? What do u think of those?
I dont think anyone has addressed this. A failsafe is used on the throttle servo. Since you boat was "stuck" turing a failsafe wouldn't have helped.
zakerid,
There are also some fail-safes that control everything. They 'fail' to 'neutral' as the default setting. (That's from just from casual reading of specs.) I don't use a fail-safe so haven't bothered getting familiar with them. The pond I use isn't all that large and I haven't felt the need, so far (which does NOT mean that I think they aren't useful!)...
- 'Doc
Watercadet
01-21-2005, 01:25 PM
A quality fail safe is a nice feature. They won't do anything if you lose power though. The one I use is part of the reciever and it is programable. You can plan where you want it to send the servo incase of failure (like idle or closed) or it can be set to stay on the last clear signal. Nice.
Adam
Chris LaPanse
01-24-2005, 12:08 AM
However, if your tx looses power, it will help a lot.
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