View Full Version : Trinity XXX Laydown Silver Stock Brush
StevePond
01-07-2005, 12:05 AM
http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/trinity/TRI13506.jpg
Motor brush wear has almost become a thing of the past. Gone are the days of cutting your commutator and replacing your motor brushes every 1 or 2 runs when racing in stock or 19 turn classes in order to keep competitive.
All new silver compound does not burn or pit the commutator. 20 to 40 runs is possible depending on your commutator maintenance. Under racing conditions cutting the commutator every 5 to 6 runs and replacing the brushes will allow you to run the brush until it no longer contacts the commutator. 20 to 40 runs is typical; up to 50 runs is possible according to Trinity.
Super slippery formula lubricates commutator and increases revs.
Available with and without terminals.
TRI13506NT: Laydown solder-on; $13.99
TRI13506: Laydown with terminal; $14.99
Available: January
Not bad. At least cheaper than Reedy's Offering.
Still think Orion's V2 tech has the advantage as you still get the long runtimes, motor can be had around the same price as the other mod ones, and brushes cost about the same as what's already out there.
Grizzbob
01-07-2005, 08:32 PM
That's true, but I think you missed something, Cain, these brushes are for stocks & 19 turns, NOT mods(though I'm sure they'll try 'em for mods too), & right now there is no V2 stock(though I have heard that Orion/Peak are working on that). If these brushes can still deliver the power we've come to expect from the other stock brushes we use & reduce wear at the same time, then they may well be worth it..... :cool:
ovalnator
01-09-2005, 12:07 AM
wheres the standup brush?
rcboy201
01-09-2005, 12:31 AM
do they only come in dual shunt?
microrcdude
01-09-2005, 03:20 PM
I dont liek dual shunt, too much heat gets into the brush IMO
From what I have gathered reading on some different sites, these brushes make a bit less power than other brushes.
For mod that may not matter, but for stock and 19 turn where you are locked as far as going to a hotter wind, this may be a factor for those who are in serious competition.
rcguy2477
01-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Cain- ive also heard that, but I've also heard that they don't turn colors like the normal ones do, which can allow you to gear up.
Micro- the heat comes from the brush, thats why the endbell is always the hottest, lol
soreloser
01-11-2005, 12:12 PM
Micro: Here is something I like to add to those who love single shunt with hot mods, take a receiver pack batter wire(20 gauge I think) and use it to discharge the battery at 30 amps with. The wire will get hot as heck due to it can not handle that much power through it, now take a 12 gauge wire and do the same thing, it does not get hot at all cause it can handle the power. The reason for the second shunt is to reduce heat, all electrical principals lead to this along with actual hands on testing has proved this. Wires are rated for a certain amount of watts and amps, the more you try to run through them the hotter they get and less efficient, so two i this case is always better than one. Just something to think about. I see many run 1 with no problems, just I prefer the duals for the reason given above.
gizmoguy303
01-11-2005, 08:22 PM
Most of the electricity is transferred to the brush through brush/endbell contact inside the brush hood. This is why it is critical to keep your brush hoods and brushes clean in stock racing. I've seen fast racers not even solder the brush shunts on - they tuck the shunt in the metal clip where you clip the brush springs. I doubt dual shunts provide any more power than a single shunt does - I believe they are more desirable from a marketing standpoint only.
As for this new brush - almost all competitive stock racers are looking for the most power - not the most endurance. If this brush can produce competitive power and reduce wear and maintenance, then it's definitely a good thing. However, if it sacrifices too much power, I'm don't think many racers will buy it. If they came out with a mod brush using the same compound, it could be good for mod racing where sometimes you aren't looking to squeeze the most power out of your motor.
synapse75
01-11-2005, 11:34 PM
its not good to put the leads under the spring like that because it provides for uneven spring pressure.
Dual shunts are good for drawing a little more heat from the brush. Im a fanatic about soldering the esc leads right to the brush leads. Im not sure if it helps at all or not, but it provides for a very direct path, and electricity takes the path of least resistance.. every little bit helps, right..
What I dont understand, is how are they providing more endurance with a sliver compound?? Silver is softer than copper and every silver brush I have ever run causes more maintenance than a brush with less sliver or a copper brush. We deff dont have all the info on this story..
Just to clear up a couple of thing's, a single brush shunt is barely worth a 10amp draw so two is better and any power the brush is getting from contact with the brush hood is arcing becase the brush is moving in the hood. Team Trinity recently cleaned house useing these brushes in stock,19T and mod with their new Cobalt.
gizmoguy303
01-12-2005, 04:50 PM
Wow, just checked Tower's website that they will be going for $13 a pair! These things better work well, and better work well for a LONG time. :p
stormperson
01-13-2005, 12:40 PM
I got a pair to try at the novak race last weekend, and at least in a C2 the brush did not have as much rip as a 767, espically up front, in stock I dont really think they will be the hot set up, and i didnt like them in 19t, in mod they should be dialed though.
Ed237
01-13-2005, 12:52 PM
What stock motors use lay down brushes?
stormperson
01-13-2005, 03:08 PM
All stock motors i am pretty sure use laydown brushes, or at least all current ones
Ed237
01-13-2005, 06:19 PM
Yeah, your right. I should have checked one of my stock motors before posting. For some reason, I thought they were stand up. My mistake, nevermind!
jimbow
01-13-2005, 07:16 PM
ummm this is going to sound noobish, and im a noob to electric. When you buy a motor off of tower or whatever does it come with brushes?
synapse75
01-14-2005, 01:13 AM
yea.. all motors come with brushes..
jimbow
01-14-2005, 09:11 AM
ok.............. cool.......
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