New Gold Peak 3700 mAh cells [Archive]

StevePond

12-21-2004, 05:50 PM

http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/gp/gp3700.jpg

We got a sneak peak at these new 3700 mAh Ni-MH battery being released by Gold Peak. These cells we're revealed as racing prizes at a race held in Asia and sponsored by Gold Peak. Pictures posted on the internet are all that we have right now, but apparently these 3700 cells were handed out to quite a few of the class winners. We'll post more info as we receive it.

ElectricThunder

12-21-2004, 05:57 PM

If those are anything like the 3300s, they'll be killer batteries..:D

rcboy201

12-21-2004, 06:00 PM

sweeeeeeeeeet

TRF TT-01

12-21-2004, 06:02 PM

That's going to be better than the Sanyo 3600mah

SS Pede

12-21-2004, 06:08 PM

runtime runtime runtime! I love it :)

Mr. Schumacher

12-21-2004, 06:10 PM

It looks like GP will be ahead of Sanyo product once again. GP has better price and quality and that's why GP dominate in EP R/C racing. Also, that is the reason Panasonic quitted the field.

GOLD PEAK RULES !!!

ElectricThunder

12-21-2004, 07:20 PM

That's going to be better than the Sanyo 3600mah
From what I've seen, the GP3300s alone are better than the sanyos....:D

gizmoguy303

12-21-2004, 08:35 PM

When will they be available? :cool:

RC10racer89

12-22-2004, 12:18 AM

Better yet, any info on which companies are going to start matching these?

FantomTC3

12-22-2004, 01:39 AM

When? i want some of those. And i agree with Mr. Schumacher, GP RULES!!!

rccardude04

12-22-2004, 01:44 AM

I think GP is like AMD is in computer stuff. They got a slower start, aren't as well known on a normal basis, but those who know their stuff know what the cool stuff is ;)
Good thing I waited till after christmas to think about electric racing!!!
-Eric

mryung

12-22-2004, 03:01 AM

According the the announcement in the Hong Kong GP Race, the new GP 3700 cells will be released in Hong Kong on January.

Cain

12-22-2004, 08:13 AM

Most of the GP3300s that I have charge up well into the 3900s. nice to see how high these go.

1822

12-22-2004, 09:58 AM

I can't wait to see what kind of voltage these cells have. Cain, what charger are you using?

zakerid

12-22-2004, 10:08 AM

I have had the same results as Cain when charging my GP's. I have an integy charger. I am also charging 14 cell packs for my boat.

sosidge

12-22-2004, 10:52 AM

Don't read too much into charge capacity - discharge capacity is what matters. The original 3300's reliably gave 3500mAh discharge for their first few cycles, it'll be interesting to see how these new cells perform.

I do tink they could have done someting new with the shrink though...

rcboy201

12-22-2004, 12:21 PM

if hong kong will have them in january then they will be here in the states in about July

glassdoctor

12-22-2004, 09:54 PM

I'm waiting to see what the matchers find when they get these... what I have heard so far is that the #s are not as good as 3300s... not yet anyway. That's from an rc plane forum.

Craps

12-22-2004, 11:40 PM

What's the big deal about 3700 mah batteries to run 5 minute races?

Are 3000 or 3300 mah batteries not plenty to run a 5 minute race with?

Combatcm

12-22-2004, 11:58 PM

Well, the voltage curve might stay a higher for longer. Good bach battery. I'm still stuck on RC2400 for races.

docman2

12-23-2004, 01:27 AM

Yeah guys , forget about what Mah number your charger tells you that your batt charged up to. That number is useless. Its just a calculation of the charge rate X the charge time. If your cells have a high internal resistance it will take longer for the charger to force a charge into them. This will give you a high Mah number on your charger. A really good pack with low resistance will actually take less time to take a charge and give a lower Mah number even though its a much better pack that holds a higher total of Mah. The only true way to know what your batts are holding is to discharge them on a T35 or other discharger that will give actual capacity, resistance numbers etc.
The thing you want to look at during charging is the voltage the pack peaks at. The higher the number the worse the pack is. With higher resistance the charger has to push to a higher voltage to get the pack to peak. A good pack will peak in the lower 9's. If its in the high 9's or even 10.0 or above the pack has a lot of resistance.

zakerid

12-23-2004, 08:13 AM

very true docman. I really use the mah # as a comparison when charging different packs.

emaxxrdr88

12-23-2004, 01:10 PM

That's really cool though they have 3700's out. The thing is though, the more mAh/capacity, the longer they take to charge.

Casper

12-23-2004, 01:36 PM

emaxxrdr88-- This is very true but combatcm hits on the real advantage. You can get 5 min out of 1400SCR if you want to. The difference is the quality at the end of the race. I am not looking forward to longer charge times though. It already takes 40+ min to charge 3300's! :(

R/C Kid

12-23-2004, 02:46 PM

rcboy201

12-23-2004, 02:57 PM

sanyo battery are very nice for stock racing, and i am anxious to see how high the volts will be on these packs

glassdoctor

12-23-2004, 03:15 PM

Maybe that's because the Sanyos have a higher resistance than GPs... so the charger has to keep cranking. ;)

I dunno guys i have a sanyo 3600 pack from orion, the team edition, and it consistently takes 4000-4400 milliamps and my gp cells have never gone over 3400 when 3300 was the rating I think I will be sticking with sanyo

hooligan1

12-23-2004, 05:59 PM

I dunno guys i have a sanyo 3600 pack from orion, the team edition, and it consistently takes 4000-4400 milliamps and my gp cells have never gone over 3400 when 3300 was the rating I think I will be sticking with sanyo

ya but the gp3300 have a MUCH lower ir giving FAR better performance,for a lower price,orion and trinity are about the only one's selling those,cuz they're junk,smc posted a comparison on their site and the gp blew them away.

rcboy201

12-23-2004, 07:50 PM

the gp3300 are just as good as the sanyo3600's but i think they have a little more punch,which is good for stock racing

SS Pede

12-23-2004, 11:11 PM

What's the big deal about 3700 mah batteries to run 5 minute races?
Bashers like myself drool over extra runtime. ;)

Craps

12-23-2004, 11:27 PM

Bashers like myself drool over extra runtime. ;)

Then buy a battery like a 8000 mah li-po that is 7.4 volts, the same size as a 6 cell nickel battery pack and weighs 5 ozs less with over 2 times the run time of a 3300 nickel battery pack. Been using them for over a year now and we have the fastest growing class in our area is the pro truck class that uses li-po batteries in a 20 minute main.

rcguy2477

12-24-2004, 01:10 AM

Then buy a battery like a 8000 mah li-po that is 7.4 volts, the same size as a 6 cell nickel battery pack and weighs 5 ozs less with over 2 times the run time of a 3300 nickel battery pack. Been using them for over a year now and we have the fastest growing class in our area is the pro truck class that uses li-po batteries in a 20 minute main.
Sure, we can all buy that with the extra $300 we all have laying around. Craps, just face the fact that we arnt as rich as you, and that lipolys won't be popular for a couple years.

Now, back to the 3700's. With GPs reputation, they will probably be great. Im looking forward to getting them for the 7 min races we do every once in a while. I just hope that these new ones will be as cheap as the "old" 3300s :D

docman2

12-24-2004, 01:29 AM

R/CKid, those batts have a really high resistance thats why your getting that 4000+ mah numbers. Its not a good thing! Look at my post above.

The biggest problem about these higher mah batts is to much runtime. Yes you heard me right. The brushed motors cant take these long runs the batts can put out. After about 5min the motors are getting way to hot. Its killing the brushes, the comm, and the magnets. Its just to much heat thats going to destroy a brushed motor. Now if you pair them up with brushless motors then you can really take advantage of all this runtime. Once the brushless motors become the Norm like in electric flight(and they will) then we will be able to run those long 30min to an hour mains like in nitro. Until then the extra capacity is just wasted.

Craps

12-24-2004, 06:24 AM

Sure, we can all buy that with the extra $300 we all have laying around. Craps, just face the fact that we arnt as rich as you, and that lipolys won't be popular for a couple years.

I am sorry you think having an extra $300 makes somebody rich. :rolleyes:

The fastest growing class in my area is the Pro Truck class that uses Li-Pos for 20 minute mains. The guys love the class and see it has ended the battery wars.

rcboy201

12-24-2004, 02:55 PM

The biggest problem about these higher mah batts is to much runtime. Yes you heard me right. The brushed motors cant take these long runs the batts can put out. After about 5min the motors are getting way to hot. Its killing the brushes, the comm, and the magnets. Its just to much heat thats going to destroy a brushed motor. Now if you pair them up with brushless motors then you can really take advantage of all this runtime. Once the brushless motors become the Norm like in electric flight(and they will) then we will be able to run those long 30min to an hour mains like in nitro. Until then the extra capacity is just wasted.

if you have your car geared right u should not have a problem with it getting hot ;)

glassdoctor

12-24-2004, 03:19 PM

3700s will give a whopping 10% more run time...about 1 minute. Is that really something to get excited about?

No reason to be in a hurry to grab some. Time will tell if they are any good...

SS Pede

12-24-2004, 08:50 PM

I'm not in a hurry to get 3700's, but I'll go for them if they perform well enough. For me, any extra runtime is worth is as long as the cells are good (GP3300's are the new benchmark!) LiPo is interesting but I am pleased with nickel batteries so far, and you don't have to pay such close attention to them. I can get 20+ minute runs with GP3300's and my Novak BL.

docman2

12-25-2004, 01:21 AM

if you have your car geared right u should not have a problem with it getting hot ;)

Uuhhh... WRONG! Ive been running electric RC for about 17yrs and I can tell you thats not true. Sure in a five minute race, but try running an electric hard for 10 to 15 minutes straight, non-stop on a track, not bashing around. The motor is going to get hot. Gear it so it dosnt and you would be crawling.
Im glad to see the batts coming out with the extra capacity but like I said before your not really going to be able to put it to good use unless your running brushless.

Heavy Throttle

12-25-2004, 09:47 AM

I race Mod Electric. My 3300 Matched Gp last 6.5 mins running a 12 turn motor geared for all it's worth without it overheating. Just enough to make a race, so these 3700 batteries tell me it's time for a 10 turn now and go even faster.

I was reading though that the 3700's have been out for a small bit, those who have the 3300's that peak out around 3700+'s are in fact the new 3700's. I was reading around on SMC's site and they said they or it was GP put 3300 labels on the new 3700's so that they did not have to get re ROAR Legal before one of the big races and mess everything up, talk about sneaking around the rules a bit lol...

Linky Linky (http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1763&perpage=30&pagenumber=32)

"If you check your capacity of your 3300 you will find that it is a 3600+ already, GP increased the capacity of their current 3300 cell without a shrink change in order to be legal for Worlds and other events to compete with the Sanyo 3600 in 2004."

SS Pede

12-25-2004, 05:09 PM

Aren't all cells capable of charging up past their rated capacity? I had a 2400 pack charge to 2700 or something the other day. I don't think that means I actually have 2700 cells labeled as 2400's.

rcboy201

12-25-2004, 09:30 PM

SS Pede

12-25-2004, 10:28 PM

Oh, and another thing. Brushless users can more easily go for extra runtime because we don't have to worry about things overheating so much. And BL really takes advantage of every last mAh you've got.

docman2

12-26-2004, 12:02 AM

whatever dude, i just know from experience. if i have my truck geared right i never have problems with it getting hot and loosing power

Well "dude" I cant say much about your "experience" but it must not be in racing. If your just bashing thats cool. Your probably not running that hard non stop like I said before.
It will take the runtime issue off the table for Mod racing. You should have plenty of batt left no matter what turn your using.

TeamTEOR

12-26-2004, 03:06 AM

More than anything else I want to know if they were able to drop the resistance a little more.

rcboy201

12-27-2004, 01:56 PM

Well "dude" I cant say much about your "experience" but it must not be in racing. If your just bashing thats cool. Your probably not running that hard non stop like I said before.

nope ive had this experience on the track, but anyways u think your right and so do i so i'm done fighting

JohnSheridan

12-27-2004, 02:40 PM

Uuhhh... WRONG! Ive been running electric RC for about 17yrs and I can tell you thats not true. Sure in a five minute race, but try running an electric hard for 10 to 15 minutes straight, non-stop on a track, not bashing around. The motor is going to get hot. Gear it so it dosnt and you would be crawling.
Im glad to see the batts coming out with the extra capacity but like I said before your not really going to be able to put it to good use unless your running brushless.

Now Thats totally WRONG!!! i dont care if anyone has raced for 17 years, that dont really mean anything.. Ive been running that long myself and where we used to have a 24hour Enduro race, back then we were running 1700 sce's and a 14x2 in a Schuey Cat and we were blasting 6-7mins out of it before we drove it in the pit to change to a newly charged pack and out again for another 6-7mins and we ran those same brushes for a sum 10 times in one hour before we slotted the new pair of brushes that were already soldered onto the motor, we had 3 pairs of brushes soldered on to a motor. When all 3 were used up we would bring the car in and put a fresh motor, also with 3 pairs new motor brushes (1 pair already on the comm and the other 2 pair waiting to be used)......And yes we ran the car for a wholesum of 24 hours....Never in all that time did we ever burned a comm nor did it get too hot to touch (warm yes, blazing hot no!!) and yes gearing the car properly helps a lot especially on enduro races!!!! :)

gizmoguy303

12-28-2004, 02:41 AM

That's because you were running a mild motor with brushes that contained a lot of lubricant and less silver. Your car was geared conservatively and specifically to run in an enduro. Because of the mild motor, hard brushes, and proper gearing (for an enduro, anyway), your motor could function for the long periods of running you subjecting it to.

Now, if you take a car that is set up for a 5 minute race, and run it non-stop on the track for an entire 3700+ pack (the effect will be much more pronounced once higher capacity batteries come out in the 4500+ range), the motor would be very toasty like Docman said. Most motors are pretty hot coming out of a 5 minute race, let alone a full-bore-punch-it-like-no-other run until your pack dumps.

It all depends on what you want your car to do. I agree with Docman - brushless systems will eventually be needed to use these high capacity batteries to their full potential.

Tornado_Racing

12-28-2004, 04:23 AM

If the 3700 is a new cell and it's constructed and has performance like the 3300, then it will be by far the best cell available even for stock racing. With the larger capacity the discharge curve will he higher and the average voltage will be higher. All of this will result in more voltage for stock, 19 turn and mod racing. The latest generation of GP3300's have killer IR's and high voltage. It would be nice to see the same numbers but with an added 30-60 seconds runtime at 30 amps.

Say you have 2 packs with the same voltage, IR's, but the 3700 had an extra 30 seconds runtime. EXP:

GP3300 30 amp numbers
1.180 2.3IR 420 runtime

GP3700 30 amp numbers
1.180 2.3IR 450 runtime

If you were to cycle these 2 packs and graph the numbers every 15 seconds, you would notice the 3700 pack would have higher voltage all the way through the discharge curve. With GP dominating the market on racing cells, why not play around with a higher capacity. It did take them 5 times to release the perfect 3300............................

Craps

12-31-2004, 04:58 PM

5 minute races are for girls. 20 minute electric races is the real deal!

rcboy201

12-31-2004, 06:42 PM

team races are fun too

TRF Drive Hard

12-31-2004, 09:08 PM

5 minute races are for girls. 20 minute electric races is the real deal!

So every guy that races a 5min race is a girl?

Maverick Racer

12-31-2004, 09:32 PM

5 minute races are for girls. 20 minute electric races is the real deal!

Thats nice, to bad you have no accmplishment to back up that statement. Who are you? No one, just some joe that races for 20 min. Good for you. If your the man that you say you are, why arnt you a sponsored driver. Why didnt you go to the worlds? Why arent you going to the snowbirds (the largest race ever) Not good enough for you? Right?

Give me a break with your holier the thou attitude. What happens when you race some on-road and get a good hit that ruptures your li-po pack and distroys your car?

Sorry for chainging the subject, but thats the most uneducated post I have read in a long time.

jocktheglide165

12-31-2004, 10:41 PM

hope the voltage is as good as the gp3300s obvisouly anyone can make a high mah rating look at sanyo and panasonic, but the voltage is just as important as mah rating.

Casper

01-01-2005, 03:54 PM

Can't we all just get along?

jocktheglide165

01-01-2005, 09:17 PM

i get along...

JohnSheridan

01-02-2005, 05:27 PM

Thats nice, to bad you have no accmplishment to back up that statement. Who are you? No one, just some joe that races for 20 min. Good for you. If your the man that you say you are, why arnt you a sponsored driver. Why didnt you go to the worlds? Why arent you going to the snowbirds (the largest race ever) Not good enough for you? Right?

Give me a break with your holier the thou attitude. What happens when you race some on-road and get a good hit that ruptures your li-po pack and distroys your car?

Sorry for chainging the subject, but thats the most uneducated post I have read in a long time.

ROFLMAO....I dont mean to add anything bad but those first 5 lines is just plain Hilarious...... :D :D

fastharry

01-02-2005, 06:36 PM

5 minute races are for girls. 20 minute electric races is the real deal!

any flashlight will run for 20 minutes......Why not try a mans sport.....NITRO!!! :p

rcboy201

01-03-2005, 10:07 PM

so..did any one hear about those new GP3700 cells.......... :D

TRF Drive Hard

01-04-2005, 03:28 AM

Gp3700!?!?! No Way!!!

jocktheglide165

01-04-2005, 03:37 AM

Most of the GP3300s that I have charge up well into the 3900s. nice to see how high these go.

I highly doubt it no offense what charger you using to get those so called high numbers of 3900mah? If that was the case GP would have released the 3900mahs not 3700mahs.

TRF Drive Hard

01-04-2005, 03:52 AM

My charger did the same with my gp3300's... they went up to 4000+ and i thought that was wierd... so i stopped the charge before thinkin something bad might happen....

jocktheglide165

01-04-2005, 05:07 AM

Craps

01-04-2005, 05:09 AM

Sorry.....LADIES!

Didn't mean to offend anyone here!

I forgot to tell our Nitro loving friend to charge up his batteries to keep that nitro running that takes more batteries to run it than an electric does! Starter box, glow plug ignitor, temp gun, RX and TX batteries mostly needed to race that stinky, noisy gas RC thats needs a refueling every 7 to 10 minutes and who knows how many trips to the ole starter box from all of those flame outs.

guver

01-04-2005, 05:52 AM

All nimh batteries will lose capacity with use. My brand new ones are always my best.

TRF Drive Hard

01-04-2005, 10:05 AM

Sorry.....LADIES!

Didn't mean to offend anyone here!

Number 2... waiting for number 3

TRF TT-01

01-04-2005, 11:41 AM

It's going to last up to 8+ minutes in modified racing.

Maverick Racer

01-04-2005, 02:38 PM

The MAH that you get when charging means nothing to the capacity of the cell. The higher the number you get the better just as long as your peak voltage is still low. I dont know 6-cell stuff. But for 4-cells if the pack takes 3700+ mah to charge and the peak voltage is below 6 then you have a good pack.

But if your not corrilating the peak voltage that MAH number means nothing and is not how you find the capacity of a cell. The only way to find the capacity of a cell is to fully dischage it to .9v after fully charging it. Only T30's and GFX's will do it in a way thats close to the numbers that most matchers will give you. Other high end chargers will do it to ala Pro-Track, Futaba...

For racing if you in the US you shouldnt have to worry about it till 2006, they didnt make it for 2005 race season. Is what roar says at least. They are within $1 a cell of the 3300's and will be a good mod or 19t cell. The voltage seem to be that of an average 3300 cell. Which means that at the 4 min it will be about as good as some of the better 3300's. This wont be a good A-main roar stock nats cell but for club racing it would be an awsome cell for all classes.

It will be an awsome cell for mod oval. We can dump 3300's in 4min not a problem with the right motor's, looks like we'll start running 5's now that we can. Or 5min oval racing. Hmmm that would be a nice change. Not for another year though.

gizmoguy303

01-04-2005, 05:07 PM

that might happen on the first charge where the batteries have been lying around for a long time, but once you cycle them and stabilize them the mah rating does not get that high for gp3300s I know becuase I charged my first fusion packs race pack and it came out to 4000mah myself on my indi 16x7v6 charger then after cycleing them it stabilized at 3400mah.

I dead-short my packs. They usually charge up to a little above 4000mah.

However, these numbers don't really show your battery's capacity (although sometimes they can be a good indicator). They are just a result of charge time X charge rate.

BlackWolf

01-05-2005, 03:15 PM

................It did take them 5 times to release the perfect 3300............................

Thats an interesting fact there Tornado_Racing. Could you fill me in as to what they did? I know there were a couple different versions, ie. rainbow wrap, short, etc. What are the changes, and what was the difference between the cells leading up the the current 'perfect' 3300?
thx

soreloser

01-06-2005, 02:58 AM

Just like in an mass produced item, the more times you make it, the better they become as long as you correct any problem that arrises. Batteries are no exception, the refining of the chemicals, assymbly of the cases, the ability to maintain a higher QC of each step is increased with experience and knowing what to look for. Take an RC car for example, the very first one you build took say 6 hours, the second one took only 5 hours but you had less problems, the third took only 3 hours and was flawless, manufacturing items is no different.

Makarov

01-22-2005, 02:00 PM

metalry101

01-23-2005, 07:25 PM

Any hobby shop should be able to get them, as they're available from Horizon. Thunder Power is the brand name of the batteries. There are other companies, but those are the only ones that I know of that are available through a big distributor.

munim

01-23-2005, 07:45 PM

HAY REM3MBER GUYZ, INTARWEBNET IS SERIOS BIZNISS! lol am i rite?

On a more serious note, anyone know how much these will weigh? I remember a couple years back, we had higher capacity cells but they weighed a bit more than the batts they were replacing.

xsp

01-24-2005, 02:53 AM

rcworld #1 (http://www.rcworld.ch/neueprojekte.asp?id=1620)

Team Orion 3700 (http://www.rcworld.ch/neueprojekte.asp?id=1643)

VTEC 3700 distributed trough LRP-Electronics!!!! (http://www.rcworld.ch/neueprojekte.asp?id=1672)

Happy discussing! :)

tracer

01-24-2005, 01:07 PM

We got a sneak peak at these new 3700 mAh Ni-MH battery being released by Gold Peak. These cells we're revealed as racing prizes at a race held in Asia and sponsored by Gold Peak. Pictures posted on the internet are all that we have right now, but apparently these 3700 cells were handed out to quite a few of the class winners. We'll post more info as we receive it.

I don't know if anybody else has picked up on this. Look at the packaging they're in. They're grouped in a pack of 6. This is how I buy my GP3300 currently. Few people know that GP "loosely" matches their cells before packaging. They come in boxes of 192 in set's of 6. My packs are about $30 each and perform "almost" as well as the racing packs but for a fraction of the cost. Which is fine for me.

Looks like GP will continue matching their stuff. Hopefully more stores will catch onto this and sell them this way.

guver

01-24-2005, 02:11 PM

What exactly is "loosely matched" though?

Craps

01-24-2005, 05:33 PM

Hey Craps, what is the source for these? (web site etc)

Thanks Steve

We use the Thunder Power TP8000-2S4P and can be found here: www.tppacks.com

Rumor has it that alot of the big names in Nickel batteries are getting ready to start marketing car/truck packs. 20 minute electric mains are not far off and expect alot of the gas racers to come back to electric.

tracer

01-25-2005, 11:34 AM

What exactly is "loosely matched" though?

Can't give you an exact speck of what they do.
But it's better than unmatched and not as good as a Pro Matched pack.

SS Pede

01-25-2005, 04:06 PM

How would I know if I was getting a pack that was loosely matched by GP? Say I bought an "unmatched" 6 cell pack from someplace like Ballistic Batteries. Would those 6 cells actually be loosely matched by GP?

metalry101

01-25-2005, 06:01 PM

We use the Thunder Power TP8000-2S4P and can be found here: www.tppacks.com

Rumor has it that alot of the big names in Nickel batteries are getting ready to start marketing car/truck packs. 20 minute electric mains are not far off and expect alot of the gas racers to come back to electric.

Not to flame or anything...but really...what's the basis of this? Ya, 20 minute mains would be kinda cool I suppose...but that might get kinda old...maybe not though. As for the comment about nitro racers "coming back," you do realize that most went to nitro because it's harder. Not only are the cars a little faster, but you have to do more than just plug it in and go. Electric chassises have to be tuned as much as nitros, but the motors don't, well...not if you run BL.

The point is that nitro has a lot of things that people like, not just runtime. I personally am more of an electric guy, but I wouldn't ever shun nitro, even if I could run my electric cars for an hour on one charge. Ya know, this might even push more people to nitro since it will make electric a bit easier in some respects. LiPo packs don't require the careful maintenence and attention to detail that Nimh and Nicd packs do to keep them in near-perfect condition. With that and BL all that's gonna be left is buying a capable chassis, getting it dialed, and learning how to drive it. It won't be cheap for sure, cuz BL and LiPo packs are still through the roof pricey...but it will be almost maintence free in that respect. No comm cutting, no discharging of the packs and cycling them to check their numbers, just chassis setup.

BlutoSigPi

01-25-2005, 08:33 PM

Not only are the cars a little faster, but you have to do more than just plug it in and go.

I like both like you, but I'm not sure about the little faster statement. When I run my "beater" XX-4 around, the nitro guys have a hellova time trying to catch me. ;) Not tryin to stir the pot or anything but I thought I'd comment. Back to the batterys, with 3700's now the nitro guys will have even more time to catch me. Can't beat that!

Craps

01-25-2005, 11:37 PM

In a 5 minute main, luck and the race is usually decided in the 1st 2 laps versus a 20 minute race a driver can have a little bad luck and if he is the best racer in the race, he will get back to the front due to longer race time.

Besides, I would rather race for 20 than 5 any day!

Rookie Solara

01-26-2005, 04:29 PM

if hong kong will have them in january then they will be here in the states in about July

But no one stopping your ordering those from HK thru internet....... :)
I have received the GP3700 dealer list from INTEGY, they do have a matched GP3700 listed for 1.18V and above........for roughly $69.99 street price.
I know Integy might not be your best choice of pro match batteries...but imagine brand like Hurricane, when they release their 3700 PM....it will be upper 1.18v....

No wonder JAPAN ran 8T mod TC for 8 minutes on all rounds.

B4U

03-24-2005, 12:32 AM

Ok any new's ?

YR4Dude

03-24-2005, 12:11 PM

Forget about the 3700s when are the 4000s coming??? :D

ice™

03-26-2005, 04:52 PM

5 minutes is way long enough, my eyes re watering at the end of the main.

I've run long 1 hour mains with gas, it just gets boring and is not nearly as intense, if electric stepped up to 6 that would be pretty insane, but if races were 20 mins, 1 I'd never make it home, 2 I'd be blind

Mr. Schumacher

03-26-2005, 11:38 PM

In Japan, JMRCA EP touring class is 8 minutes long. So those Japanese racers are tough, right?

guver

03-27-2005, 01:48 AM