New Stockers?? All the old ones suck....

[hooked911]

Anybody releasing any new stock motors? I heard trinity and team associated/lrp was releasing some new stockers. Anyway post if you have got the scoop on a hot stock for carpet.

[rcconcept]

Why do you say all the choices aren`t any good?Are you racin or bashin?

[emaxxrdr88]

Theres plenty of good stockers our there now. You racing or bashing or both?

[gizmoguy303]

All stock motors are slow. They are supposed to be that way. :rolleyes:

Generally a torque motor such as the P2K2 will work good on small, tight tracks, while a more rpm-inclined motor such as the Monster is good for medium-sized tracks. Hope that helps.

I've heard that Trinity will be introducing a stock motor using Cobalt brush hood tech.

[rcguy2477]

With the technology we already have, the new motors won't get much faster. Todays stock motors are, imo, pretty fast and should be made slower for racing.

[4W Guy]

All stock motors are slow. They are supposed to be that way. :rolleyes:

Generally a torque motor such as the P2K2 will work good on small, tight tracks, while a more rpm-inclined motor such as the Monster is good for medium-sized tracks. Hope that helps.

I've heard that Trinity will be introducing a stock motor using Cobalt brush hood tech.

Trinity had the Cobalt motors at the US Indoor Champs in Cleveland last week. I believe they are all modified though. The ones they had there were all low numbers. 8, 9, 10 I think. They even came in a little wood box.

[Wizardman_1]

Team Orion also has the endbell kits if you want something different, just add it on to your motor.

[highroller]

What type of carpet racing TC or pan car oval?
For carpet tracks most use the Monster Stock2 or newer Epic Stock (only the 2 magnet motor is legal at this time). For the hot setup use Reedy 767 brushes, Trinity Purple/Red springs. Ask the local racers what they are using for a gearing most may quote the rollout. To find what pinion size you need take the given rollout number divided by tire diameter (for pan car measure distance across multiply x pi 3.14) for transmission cars (find tire diameter multiply x transmission ratio) multiply that by the spur gear which will give you the pinion size. Example: transmission or TC quote is a 5.50 rollout 5.50 (2.40 tire size x 3.14= 7.54 x 2.25 tranny ratio of car = 16.956 or 17.0) divided by 17.0 = 0.32352 mutliplied x 78 (spur size) = 25.235 or 25 tooth pinion for direct drive pan cars quote may be 2.05 rollout (tire size 2.25 x 3.14 = 7.065 or 7.07) 2.05 divided by 7.07 = .31824 multiplied by 116 (spur) = 36.9165 that would be either a 36 more like a 37 pinion.

If speed is too slow for you in stock, some tracks have a 19turn class some run two classes for the 19turn Fixed endbell motors (Trinitys Chameleon 2, Reedy 19turn quad, Orion/Peak 19turn) or those 19turns that have handwound armatures and adjustable timing referred to as ARCOR 19turn made from three of the to motor manufacturers Yokomo (Reedy Ti can/endbell) Epic (Trinity D5 & D6 cans with D4 endbells), TOPS (Orion/Peak can/standup brushes). Most used either the Putnam XBrush, Trinity 4383, or Reedy 738 brushes with Trinity Purple Springs, timing is usually set at 34-36 degree of advanced timing and 28 and high for TC.

For racing most tracks and rules do not allow the mixing of one brand motor parts with another type, some tracks as well may not allow mixed different stock armatures with different motors even of the same brand - you may not be able to install a MS2 armature in a P2K2 can even though they are the same EPIC based motor.

In some cases it not how fast you are that counts but also how the vehicle handles. If you are off the throttle too long in the corners because it doesn't turn properly work on getting it to turn, stay stable and allows you to get back on throttle earlier. Sometimes it may take several changes shock oil, shock springs, ride height adjustment, adding camber, changing tire compound or just adjusting spoiler or wing angle or placement. Sometimes adding a little a drag brake on radio so as you ease off or roll off throttle a little braking action is applied slowing car smoothly for turning into the corner without upsetting the handling and getting back on throttle as quickly as possible again without upsetting the chassis. For banked oval racing you are on the throttle for the duration and should never lift except for accidents on flat or roadcourse layouts, the general way of taking turns is easing off throttle before the turn (rollout about 1/4 throttle allowing drag brake to slow car get as low as possible nipping the corner dot is you have too but get back into throttle as soon as you can letting car drift (neutral) out into the racing line (middle of track). If car pushes out add a little camber or more steering even applng traction compound differently may help, if it stays pinch down take away some of the steering, apply less traction compound to area of front tires or reduce the amount of caster, with pan cars add tweak to increase turnin and exit take out tweak if car turns to sharpely or pinches coming off the corner.