Team Losi Mini-T Pro

[StevePond]

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Team Losi now offers their popular Mini-T in a feature packed model with about every popular option part. The success of the Mini-T has introduced thousands of new enthusiasts to the world of R/C. Not surprisingly, a lot these have found their way to the racetrack where racers have been asking for more. The new LOSB0210 Mini-T Pro includes the basic well-proven chassis with a full compliment of trick performance parts. Every moving part rides on ball bearings, the suspension is controlled by hard anodized oil-filled shock absorber, steering and camber links are precision machined from Titanium. The drivetrain features the high output “Speed” motor, a racing inspired slipper with one piece hard-anodized aluminum gear/shaft and clear lexan gear cover, adjustable ball differential, and genuine MIP CVD driveshafts. Looks haven’t been forgotten either as white racing wheels with Step-Pin rear tires and a swoopy new body complete this benchmark kit. This tricked out little racer comes preassembled, ready for you to paint and install the radio gear of you choice and start ripping up the track or your neighborhood. Of course the standard Mini-T radio gear will fit in as well so your options are endless. Look for the Mini-T Pro at your local hobby shop and racetrack in plenty of time for Xmas.

LOSB0210 Mini-T Pro 1/18 Stadium Truck (less radio) $ 150.00

[silly_boi]

is moulded parts graphite or normal plastic?

[brickshelf]

if they where graphite there'd be graphite written everywhere

[Josh89]

Cool truck...

[emaxxrdr88]

Indeed....

[RC10racer89]

Yah, but I wished they would make a kit version. I don't think I've seen 1/18's available as kits :(

[microrcdude]

Oh, so that one is pre-built? that stinks

[Mr. Furious]

The Micro RS4 and TLT-1 are both 1/18th kits. The new PTI monster truck will be a kit also.

[RCMadMatt]

The TLT-1 is a pretty cool truck. If Losi is gonna do a "pro" version of the Mini-T that's pre-built, why not include a radio system that's better than the standard Mini-T or just make it a kit without radio?

Matt

[losifreak2004]

Cost efficiency. If the trucks are already being built, slapping a few new pieces on them before shipping wouldn't be nearly as expensive as creating a different work force just for bagging parts, separating hardware, etc.

For them to include something like a XR2i with the truck would push it out of the price range for some people..and the racers wouldn't go buy the truck just to have to deal with the radio.

[dkj-M3]

yeah, racers already have a radio, we just want the truck

[losifreak2004]

And having it pre-built instead of trying to put all those tiny screws everywhere is a nice touch...hahaha

[DrDiff]

Finally. A Mini-T the way losi should have done it in the first place. Oil shocks and full ball bearings. I can deal with it being pre built. But IMHO Losi should have put this out first and stayed away from the toy market.

[losifreak2004]

Why would they shy away from the biggest market in the hobby? Doesn't make ANY sense to me..

[matthew12345678]

nice but i would want a carbon fiber chasis too :):)

[TC4RACER]

is moulded parts graphite or normal plastic?
no, there isnt. it would be neet though :rolleyes:

[Losi Stealth]

guys, this comes with more than just new shocks and bearings.
Its got the new slipper, ball diff, step pin rears, MIP CVDs. I would guess most of us probally read the details, but there is more here than meets an early glance.
Just came to me, didn't see it before myself. If you did, kudos. But I think thats a good deal, its just too bad I had to buy my truck a couple weeks too early.

[Freak e-maxx1]

should of came out with the mini-t rtr and it would be what most tunners would buy i konw i would of

[CrazyPhantom]

I saw it and I see that it is a great deal with the upgrades and costing the same amount as the stock.! good deal, but not to smash o nthe mini-t, but the rc18 will womp this thing!

[losifreak2004]

What makes you say that? I'd be up to race you..

[pedeman]

yeah, id like to race u if u think that urs is the best (CrazyPhantom) (im not sayin that mine is:)) my bro has a BL mini0t :D

[jkerr0043]

Aaron, He dosen't seem to know who you are.

[NitroBoy24]

The RC18T has a direct drive setup so top speed wise the losi is gonna get walked all over. And 4wd..Hole shot.

So, put a mini-t with a mamba and 7.2V pack against the RC18T with the same setup and prepare for some AE ownage :D

But, it doesnt look bad (the losi), if they were smart they'd just make it a kit though :rolleyes:

[losifreak2004]

nitroboy - I'm gonna guess you haven't taken a basic high-school level Economics course? A kit makes no sense on Losi's part.

I will race anyone with an RC18T...any time of day :-)

Kerr - Guess not!

[CooLJoE8]

Being a crazy BL Mini-T owner....I have to say that I think the RC18T will walk over a Mini-T as well.

I have the Mamba 8000kv in mine with 14/58 geaing, extreme timings setting, and run 8-cell GP1100 packs that are always peak charged. The thing is crazy fast. However, none of that will matter if you can't hook up traction on the track. I've been to multiple places and it just can't get enough traction. I could probably beat my Mini-T on a track with my stock MiniQuake. And I bet that the BL in an RC18T or MiniQuake would get traction alot better and faster than the Mini-T. 4wd has its advantages. Not only for the traction, but also for the handling.

[dkj-M3]

2 different classes so you can't even compare them. it's like racing a cycle against a car. But then again, I do beat guys with my 2wd NT against 4wd 8th buggy's. I have even raced my xxx-nt in a 8th buggy main. lol. It all comes down to the driver.

[minimole]

2 different classes so you can't even compare them. it's like racing a cycle against a car.

Yeah, with the mini t being the pedal bike, and the rc18t being the car... :p :cool:

Duane :D :D :D

[dkj-M3]

too bad ae is scared to make a 10th scale 4wd, then they go & make a 4wd mini. must be scared of the 2wd mini. tell you what. disable the front wheel drive on the 18t & we'll see who wins. lol j/k

[dkj-M3]

Yeah, with the mini t being the pedal bike, and the rc18t being the car... :p :cool:

Duane :D :D :D

a pedal bike can beat a yugo. :D

KJ

[jimbow]

The 18T would still win because of its direct drive i think............

[losifreak2004]

Why would that make a difference? The slipper clutch on the Losi truck will help the truck find traction, while the extra rotating mass of the AE would be left in the dust.

I'll race anyone's 18T with my Mini-T. And the biggest difference? Our truck was groundbreaking and supposed to look like the XXX-T, not a second entry into the market.

[NitroBoy24]

nitroboy - I'm gonna guess you haven't taken a basic high-school level Economics course? A kit makes no sense on Losi's part.

Nope. And I have no plans on it either.

Makes no sense? I am not sure about that one. Considering they have a kit for just about every single vehicle out right now, I'd have to say it would make sense on a few conditions. The mini-t rtr pro "Insert first mini-t racers name" Edition :D is a good idea, no doubt about it. But if they put together a full on kit, graphite and all I know for sure that a lot of people would be buying them. The newbs to r/c could stick with a rtr but almost everyone that owns a mini-t is going to dump out the crap stock electronics (I used to hang at some mini-t forums a while ago) since the servo=junk, the RX and ESC combined isn't the greatest, and then the stupid 4 wire servo deal..

That's just my .02 cents, not trying to start a flame war so dont take it the wrong way :)

[NitroBoy24]

Losifreak,

4wd>2wd if you are talking about acceleration. Like it's been said though, if you cant drive that wont matter on a track.

A direct drive car is going to be faster all around compared to a car that has gear ratios.

Sure the losi was ground-breaking but was it well built like the AE? Nope. Sure I dont know because it's not out yet. But the AE has a good radio setup (the XP is a decent AM radio, 2 of my r/cs *had* them), its got oil shocks, I believe ball bearings all around, and then its comes with a charger and battery.

In my opinion RC18T>Mini-t in all the categories. We will just have to wait for RCCA to do a mini rc showdown :cool:

[losifreak2004]

jimbow was talking about the direct drive helping the truck if you were to make the 18T two-wheel drive and race against the Mini-T.

Direct drive won't help a truck if you can't get it geared correctly..and no 4wd car can be direct drive because gears are required to transfer the motor power to the driveshafts. Direct drive is when the motor spins the driveshafts with no other power loss in between. The 18T will most likely have a final gear ratio that is very close to the Mini-T because they're intended for the same size motors and batteries.

A kit makes no sense at this stage of the game because it's already cheap enough for Losi to send out built trucks, and I can't see one single person saying "I'm not going to buy this truck because it's already assembled".

The Mini-T may not have invented the 1/18th scale world but it sure brought the world into it. Associated changed their opinion of "there's not enough market for them" to making a racer instead of something aimed at just fun. To break open a new world is a lot harder than to watch someone else do it and point fingers when you come up with possible improvements.

The Losi truck was built every bit as well as the Associated truck. The electronics package developed especially for the truck was the first of its kind while maintaining the idea of simplicity. You will be paying more for the Associated truck and its extra equipment (although you don't get adjustable turnbuckles),

BTW..the 18T has been in Thunder Tiger advertisements for a while..

[minimole]

saying "I'm not going to buy this truck because it's already assembled".


Well, I dont know, it seems to me that many people on here were very annoyed the TL have it preassembled, and Im sure that fact will put of many hard core racing guys.
I know that the fact its a pre-made car would really put me of, simply becuase i really want to build a car, its enjoyable, helps you understand the car, and how it goes together, and mainly, Ive never done it before!!! Its so annoying, Ive had like 7 cars in all, and I havent built one of them, and the car I hope to get, I wont bnuild that either!!!(The AE micro...)

Duane
:D

p.s. why dont we get a bit more on topic and stop talking about the economical advantages of selling cars preassemlbed... ;) :p

[dkj-M3]

LOL. I'll take mine pre-built b/c I had a xxx-t & pretty much already know the trucks in & outs.

[losifreak2004]

I just don't wanna mess with all of those tiny screws..hahaha

[CooLJoE8]

2 different classes so you can't even compare them. it's like racing a cycle against a car.

No, actually its like racing a 2wd car against a 4wd car. How about this one:

HPA Motorsports VW R32 (455 wheel horse power, AWD 4-motion, manual tranny)

-vs-

2003 Dodge Viper RT (something like 400-420 wheel horse power, RWD, manual tranny)

Guess who wins the launch traction, 0-60, and 1/4 mile. VW R32. It can launch on a rain soaked track better than the Viper on a dry track. Why? Because when you're pushing all 4 wheels, you are more likely to grab the surface. That same VW R32 can hold its own against the Ford GT and Porsche Carrera GT (cept 1/4 mile...it loses by about .5 or so seconds).

My point was that the RC18T's 4wd will give it a better chance to grip. Thats why the race tracks are seperating them. It would have an advantage over the Mini-T.

[CooLJoE8]

Why would that make a difference? The slipper clutch on the Losi truck will help the truck find traction, while the extra rotating mass of the AE would be left in the dust.

I'll race anyone's 18T with my Mini-T. And the biggest difference? Our truck was groundbreaking and supposed to look like the XXX-T, not a second entry into the market.

And while your BL Mini-T is "finding" traction, my BL 18T will be halfway around the track.

BL Mini-Ts (atleast mine since it has so much power) either slowly accelerate from finding traction (loose slipper/diff) or do a burnout and throw dirt for a little bit (tight slipper/diff). Or you can try my method which is a tight slipper/diff and you just ease onto the throttle. However, I'm quite confident that the 18T won't need the "ease onto the throttle" part as much as the Mini-T. Its a known fact that 4wd gets better traction than 2wd (especially Rwd). And to top it off, when the Mini-T does get going, you'll have to slow down for the turns more than the 18T, cuz it has all 4 wheels helping it pull through. Mini-T will spin out or overturn if it uses too much power while turning.

[CooLJoE8]

Associated changed their opinion of "there's not enough market for them" to making a racer instead of something aimed at just fun.

The Losi truck was built every bit as well as the Associated truck. The electronics package developed especially for the truck was the first of its kind while maintaining the idea of simplicity. You will be paying more for the Associated truck and its extra equipment (although you don't get adjustable turnbuckles),

BTW..the 18T has been in Thunder Tiger advertisements for a while..

1) Actually its aimed at a truck for fun as well. Its the same as the Mini-T; its good enough to race, but also to just have fun.

2) Considering the 18T isn't out, the quality can't be compared yet. However, I got one of the very first Mini-Ts (got it the day it came out) and I can tell you the quality was NOT that great. Turnbuckles bend EASY, rear axles had mega slop, servos were breaking left and right, etc, etc. Not good quality if you ask me.

The electronics was put on there by a cheap R/C company (Charisma R/C). Losi was stupid for letting that happen, and they know that now. Lots of people moved to new electronics because those stock ones were crap (still are). And it isn't the first of its kind. That idea is used on TONS of Tycos and such out there. Mini-Z has that type of setup, Xmods have that setup, so do many other cheap R/Cs.

3) ThunderTiger advertising the 18T? Not likely. And if you are trying to say that ThunderTiger is selling or made the 18T, think again. ThunderTiger has their own mini truck coming out (ZK-2 and ZT-2...stadium truck and monster truck...both 2wd like the Mini-T).




I'm not sure why you have such anomosity towards the 18T (or anything that isn't a Mini-T). I love my Mini-T just like you do, but I also like innovation and new designs in the arena. The RC18T brings 4wd to the stadium truck class, which is only a good thing. The MQ did it and I've already found that to be an awesome truck.

[dkj-M3]

ooooooookaaaaaaaaaaay. Nothing against it. But I bet the 2wd mini could beat a 4wd mini off the line. due to the simple fact that it is not as heavy & they both run the same motor & cells. I have drag raced my 2wd xxx-nt against a 4wd 8th buggy on asphalt. guess what, I was the first off the line. the buggy did eventually catch me & pass, but I'm running a .12 & the buggy has a .21 engine. Put them on the dirt & 4wd will give the buggy the advantage. just depends on a # of factors.

[dkj-M3]

I thought the quality of the mini-t was fine. I beat mine to death & the only thing I broke was 1 front tower & 1 servo. easy fixes & cheap. how did you break a turnbuckle, I never bent or busted the stock ones.

[jimbow]

dude, dont even start comparing .12's and ST's to 1/8buggys and .21's. Thats completely different. I would bet anyone my entire bank account that you werent running the same motor, gearing, etc. and that ST's and B's are completely defferent. The fairer way would be to drop the same motor and gearing into say a MT2 or Overdrive ST, but then you can say that the losi was made for racing and speed and GOL DARN! YOU CANT WIN! GIVE IT UP!

[jimbow]

sorry

[NitroBoy24]

Haha. Apparently not many people here have grasped the concept of 4WD :rolleyes:

Put an RC18T up against the Minit with the exact same setup. Like I've said before, the AE will win. And if you really want to embarras the mini-t put both of them on a loose, dirt surface.

And I keep on hearing about all this "extra weight" on the RC18T which will make it so slow to the point that the TL will win. A driveshaft that is going to way squat and some extra Drivetrain stuff up front on the AE is not going to slow it down as much as some people here think. Once again 4wd is the key. And shoot, put a stock minit up against the RC18T. A like 11mph top-speed againsts the AE's which I think Wild hobbies said would be in the 20mph range.

Dang, I am going to definitely have to pick up a RC18T, drop The Beast motor in it, buy some packs and rip!

EDIT:
What the heck! W-i-l-d h-o-b-b-i-e-s got Starred (****) out :rolleyes:

[dkj-M3]

my truck was/is race prepped, so was the 8th. Read my post, it's not thought up, that was real world testing or racing. I already said that the 4wd drive would win.

NEXT :cool: :D

[losifreak2004]

KJ - Hehe I don't think we can win..race experience means nothing..

[CooLJoE8]

I thought the quality of the mini-t was fine. I beat mine to death & the only thing I broke was 1 front tower & 1 servo. easy fixes & cheap. how did you break a turnbuckle, I never bent or busted the stock ones.

maybe you babied it?

I remember hearing about tons of people bending the stock turnbuckles. I obliterated mine while at the track on monday and did the same while at a buddy's track. They are soft metal that a 2 year old could bend with his hands.

[CooLJoE8]

KJ - Hehe I don't think we can win..race experience means nothing..

hmmm, I have race experience. whats your point?

I also have tested things like this....have you? We did it with a T-Maxx once. Drove it 4wd around a track and at one point the front diff blew, so we pulled the front center driveshaft and made it 2wd (rwd) and drove it around. It could get around the track, but the handling was crippled and didn't hook up as well (would spin out sometimes).

but oh wait....your the pro here. :rolleyes:

[CooLJoE8]

my truck was/is race prepped, so was the 8th. Read my post, it's not thought up, that was real world testing or racing. I already said that the 4wd drive would win.

NEXT :cool: :D

jimbow is right. an rc18t and mini-t comparison would not equate to a 1/8th buggy against a xxx-nt. the rc18t is not much heavier than a mini-t. Infact the mini-t's electronics probably make up for that weight (being so big and bloated).

the best test is probably a nitro mt against a xxx-nt. and if your xxx-nt is a race version, then you would have to use the nitro mt racer and give it the same engine (or slightly better engine if you want to get an idea for stock mini-t vs stock rc18t). and you'd have to do equal amounts of tweaks/hop-ups to both. I'll tell ya, I had a nitro mt racer with .12 cvr and that thing hauled major booty. I never had handling/traction problems.

[dkj-M3]

maybe you babied it?

I remember hearing about tons of people bending the stock turnbuckles. I obliterated mine while at the track on monday and did the same while at a buddy's track. They are soft metal that a 2 year old could bend with his hands.
no, i didn't baby it my 2 year old son did.lol

[dkj-M3]

oh yeah, NEXT

this is fun.

[CooLJoE8]

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[losifreak2004]

Joe - I bent a couple of the stock ones..I took it to The Dirt in Hemet and tried to jump a couple 25 ft. jumps with it...haha

[Animeboy123]

Any date on when its comming out.

[CooLJoE8]

Joe - I bent a couple of the stock ones..I took it to The Dirt in Hemet and tried to jump a couple 25 ft. jumps with it...haha

I mostly bent mine while at various tracks. The last time I was clearing a triple section made for the big nitro trucks and 1/8th buggies. I more than cleared the triple....I cartwheeled into the wall. Ended up bending 3-4 of the turnbuckles into 90 degree angles, and lost a 3Racing swingshaft because a rear turnbuckle bent 90 degrees (and still stayed attached at both ends). The swingshaft was cut in half; the shaft part was sheared off at the joint near the axle. So now I have to go back to the dogbones and stock diff until I order some new 3Racing swingshafts.

[losifreak2004]

Well see..the truck was NEVER designed for that. That's not Losi's fault at all.

But I agree..it's fun.

[CooLJoE8]

Well see..the truck was NEVER designed for that. That's not Losi's fault at all.

But I agree..it's fun.

True it was never meant to clear triples or even doubles, but I've bent them just driving around a track and mis-landing smaller jumps. Don't tell me the Mini-T wasn't meant for that either.

Take it from tons of people that have bent them....the stock turnbuckles are JUNK.

[losifreak2004]

Well then call me lucky..I've never hurt anything on my truck without doing something stupid.

[CooLJoE8]

Well then call me lucky..I've never hurt anything on my truck without doing something stupid.

well hello there lucky ;)

[dkj-M3]

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sorry dial-ups

[dkj-M3]

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[dkj-M3]

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[dkj-M3]

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[dkj-M3]

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[dkj-M3]

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[jimbow]

hahahah, did I just see an Airtronics m8 controlling a Mini-T? What is the world coming to? :D Just thought i would see if anyone had tried this now that it is out..... What are the differences in performance?

[dkj-M3]

Big difference, it drives just like the 10th scale with a quality radio, batts & motor. Racing on the scaled down track is just like racing the 10th scales. just seems funner though.

[Chewbacca]

Well, all of this 2WD vs 4WD got me thinking.

I did buy a Trinity I.B. Spyder Pro with Trinity Oil Shocks for $90 shipped, and just recently a TT ZK-2 for about $60 shipped with oil shocks, motor, sevo (3 wire!) and speed 300 motor, I will be able to compare soon. The ZK-2 is really for my brother's birthday but I'll have to test it before ;-).

We'll probably make a small track in our parents' (tini) back yard, so we'll see. If the 4WD turns out to be a major advantage, I just might disable the front drivetrain.

Sorry for the OT post.

Chewie.

[dkj-M3]

4wd will be easier to drive fast, than the 2wd

[pedeman]

ill try to post pics of my friends track... its in a barn... its massive, its got woops and stuff... its so much fun! i def. think mini-t's are so much more fun then full sized... dont expect pics soon, we have 2 much fun driving, and ill proly forget, like usual... maybe ill just take one with my camera phone and send it to someone's e-mail cause i dont know how to post pics, lol