So which stock motor is the hot ticket?

[The Modfather]

To clarify, I'm runnin a T3, and it has a P2k2 in it. My buddy has an Orion in his rig - and they are dead even as far as speed is concerned.

So as of right now, what stock motor is the hot ticket?

Thanks!

[Fast T3]

go to a 19 Spec motor, you will be faster.

[The Modfather]

go to a 19 Spec motor, you will be faster.

Can't race in stock class w/ a 19T spec, can I? But I'm still curious - link to 19T spec motor?

[Hachi_Roku]

The trinity monster horsepower stock motors are great stock motors. If your track allows quad magnets, the epic ones are also some really fast stock motors. The speed of the motors also depends a lot on the maintaince you give it. Frequent comm cuts, aligned brush hoods and good condition brushes can really improve the speed of your motor.

If you are looking into 19t spec motors, the reedy quad magnet 19t is a really fast motor.

[Voop]

The fantom stock motors based on the monster horsepower are really nice as well. I've been having really good luck with them as have a few others where I race. Also, you might check out birdman's stock motors (he's a small motor tuner out of Mojave, CA) http://www.teambirdman.com/ if you're not into tuning your own motors.

-Voop

Edit: he lives in CA not AZ

[The Modfather]

Great info here! The Team Birdman site is damn awesome!

[Tazz07]

This is an awesome motor right here>>>
http://www.teamtrinity.com/motors/19turn.asp

[highroller]

A P2K2 should be about the same as any other stock motor, unless yuo want to speed more time on maintenance by using high silver brushes and tweaking the motor you have. Try gearing the motor differently while the HP of most stocks are closely the same the rpm and torque they produce differs from one type to another so generally the ideal method is to gear according the rpm and torque range for that motor then you'll be able to gain an edge in acceleration but overal the speeds will still remain the same. A P2k2 is generally geared 1-3 teeth lower than an Tops (orion/peak) motor. If you don't mine the extra wear and maintenance involved them use Reedy 767 or their 769 hollow silver brush, and use Trinity Red brush springs on the Positive and a Green spring on the negative. You will need to clean up and possible ensure the comm is perfectly true and the brush hoods properly aligned.

Yes if you don't mind spending the extra money on a motor you can get one of the Fantom Limited Team Edition motors, a Putnam or some other motor tuned by a few OEM motor builders than will produce better overal power than any motor tuned from Trinity, Associated or Peak. Most of motor builders speed time zapping, alinging and tuning their motors that the numbers well exceed anything you get called dyno or pro from the 3 major motor companies. But you are going to pay more.

[rcguy2477]

www.eamotorsports.360k.com , simply the best tuned stock motors

[TEM]

What highroller said and the following:

Some motor builder will sell you a fast motor but it's not going to stay fast unless you know how to properly use and maintain it! If you don't know enough and just bought one of these motors out of the blue, the motor would have slowed down dramatically before you even have the right gearing figured out! For many racers, a stock motor only stays "freshly-tuned-fast" for a couple runs!

[highroller]

What I am also saying is that those so called Pro, Team and Dyno motors that come from Reedy, Trinity and Orion/Peak are not the finely tuned motors they make you believe they are. While many to come with race type brushes and springs they produce no where the power that many of the aftermarket builders motors produce. Many of the aftermarket builders tune each and every motor their reputation is on the line to produce a good product you pay more for a better product. For many years I've bought standard over the counter motors, dynoed them then tuned and setup to make the most power I could ring out them sometimes spending many hours and still not get and power improvement. Tried a couple Fantoms, Putnams and a few others in many instance getting a motor that was making just as good or better power that I had spend hours with. So now I buy one of the OEM motors needing less time for motor setup and have more time for chassis tuning and repair. Motor does get dynoed after three runs or when I notice a drop in performance - if dyno shows a drop in power it's too the lathe and a new set of brushes, springs it that's indicated or a fresh armature. For racing I try to duplicate or improve the power numbers from the original setting. If after the normal maintenance motor shows no improvement then I know it time for a new motor.

For me there is really no bad stock motor, with knowledge and a little tuning experience you can any motor for any use. There are some motors that tend to be easier to setup and more becasue of the way they make their power to use for certain tracks. Those you will find is what everone is using, then it's more of tuning and driving skills that is the difference between losing or winning.

[The Modfather]

You guys have provided some very good input! Thanks a lot!

[BCSavage]

OK, what about a motor for someone who isn't racing, and isn't able to get the comm cut all the time. What's a good "basher" motor? I was told the Chameleon would be a good one.

[HauntedMyst]

If you want a 19t, I've read nothing but good about the Reedy 19T Quad Spec. If you want a lower turn motor, the Peak Stratos is an excellent choice as is the Reedy Flash Point series.

http://www.teamassociated.com/shusting/CatalogHub/reedy/new/510_Spec19sm.jpg

[TEM]

I go for over the counter motors, but if I see a pro version with high power, I would go for one of those.. ie, if I see a monster stock at 69+watts, it's a good indication you can get a tad more out of it in opposed to a 61watt one. Centering the arm, cut the com, align the hoods, change brush/springs, run in brush+bushings, cut comm again. It won't be good enough for taking the nats(neither am I for that matter) but it'll keep a typical A-main racer well IN the A-main at most club races!

Good motor for a basher? More power means more work! I would say silver can motor, trinityspec21turn, chameleon 19T both with SPEC brushes! Your comm will thank you! Throw in some 767s or something, you'll still looking at pretty frequent comm cuts.

[BCSavage]

guess I'll just burn the crap out of my midnight till I can afford brushless.

[Cain]

one thing you have to keep in mind is that with motors that are more RPM based than torque based they are harder to gear correctly and can smoke easier too.

So far the most powerful production motor that Big Jim has tested was the P2k2. you may want to work on setting up your P2k2 or you can get one tuned by Team Paradigm. I have one sitting here brand new from them that looks great but as the Regionals will be using the Monster unfortunately and I really only run mod ( the track is huge ) its on the block.