Need a less powerful motor

[racer234]

Hey, currently I'm running a 12x2 Orion Revolution in my T4, and to be honest it's too much power for my track. So now I'd like to "downgrade" but I don't want to be stuck with some budget oriented motor, I prefer high grade motors, but they don't make Reedy KR, etc in 17 turn or around there. I think a stock motor would be a little too weak, so I was looking at the Reedy Quad Magnet 19 Turn. Would this be a good motor? Thanks.

[Beniscool6]

Id go with the quad mag reedy motor. ive only hheard good things from them

at my track they have a 19t class, and you can only run the trinity based motors. ive been running the Fanton motor, and its been excellent. its only 40 too (i think)

[Grizzbob]

Agreed, the Reedy 19 turns have a lot of torque & good power, so they should be very well suited to offroad use. Just be sure to gear them pretty tall & keep an eye on motor temperature, & you should be good to go.... :cool:

[racer234]

Whats a good temp for them to run at? Or for any motor to run at? Thanks

[ttweedle]

If you want a good mod motor you can go to many of the smaller motor winders and they will wind you pretty much whatever you want. I have bought some mod motors from www.team-paradigm.com and they have alot of winds in all of the new cans available. You will find what you need on that website I guarantee it.

Travis

[Pro3/nmt105]

If you have a decent radio you could just use EXP to control the power, you could also adjust the EPA to lower the top speed. If you get the reedy 19T you will have to replace the brushes and cut the comm much more often. I think the v2 is available in a 17T wind. I have a 16x2 v2..

[racer234]

How did you get a 16 turn V2? The highest wind they make (according to the website) is a 14x2.

http://www.teamorion.com/products/motors_v2.asp

[KTRTS]

They had an advert for 16 turn V2s... Maybe they were discontinued?

Also maybe try a triple or quad wound motor.

[highroller]

If the motor you have is producing to much uncontrollable power when you get on the throttle there are a couple of things you can do first without switching motors or being too costly. First try decreasing the amount of timing by 5 or 10 degrees that will reduce a little of the acceleration power, then try gearing down to a smaller pinion. It that still doesn't help much purchasing a replacement armature made for that motor (most oriion/peak motors are TOPS based). Orion makes some different replacement armatures by using a 13-15 turn triple armature it should make the acceleration a bit milder without hurting overal speed and it would be ideally cheaper to change armatures than buy a new motor.

That is what I do for modified racing buy several complete mod motors that I feel is suitable for the track then several replacement armatures. The if one turn/wind makes too much low end power and another is too mild and changing timing or gearing still doesn't help then I use a spare armature to tune power to track conditions. You tailor motor low end power to suit traction or dirving conditions without suffering a lack of speed. I buy complete motors in 7-14 turn double winds then replacement armature in single, triple and a few quad winds. Never been able to use the one 6x2 I bought even in oval racing, low end punch was too much for the track surface.

[Pro3/nmt105]

Doesnt d3ecreasing the timing give you more acceleration and less top speed? Wouldn't you want to raise the timing, the motor will run hotter but it will have a higher top speed but less acceleration making it more controllable? Wouldnt a smaller pinion also increase acceleration? He could switch to a larger pinion for less acceleration as long as it doesnt overheat the motor.

[AlexV2024]

i dont like low turn mods that much myself (except in 4wd, i typicly like a couple less turns then in 2wd classes) so i use 14-19t motors. you could just buy a 16x2 arm for your orion, thats the highest wind they make. its also better to use a higher turn motors because its easier on your batteries, they have more tourqe and are of course easier to control. which is why i like higher turn motors. but i do have a 10x2 and 12x2 for my 4wheeler. i also have a 16x3 motor and 2 19t trinitys.

as far as 19ts go i think the chemelion2's are consistantly better then the reedy quad mags but there are some gems from the quad mag motors that really shine. also the reedys have their tourqe in the mid to high rpm range while the C2's are more spread out.

~Alex

[racer234]

I'll try decreasing the timing, as for the pinion- Won't I have more torque with a lower pinion? What I need is less torque for the track. Right now I'm constantly peeling out. Thanks for all the replies.

[highroller]

You are confusing the motor power, to decrease some of the low end punch that a 12x2 would have do either decrease the timing of decrease the gearing. What you are trying to do is make the acceleration smoother. Decreasing timing or gearing from a point where you decrease the rpm range can make the on power a bit more managable it's cheaper than buying a whole motor to get an armature with more wire which should make the low end power smoother without the uncontrollable wheelspin that a 12x2 motor would have.

When the motor doesn't guite get up to speed or acceleration is a bit too mild you either increase the timing or change gearing you do the opposite when low end acceleration is a bit too uncontrollable for track conditions.