Need some advice on a boat please

[jonnytrouble]

I'd like to purchase an rc boat, and need some help with making a decision! I'd like to by an RTR boat. I'm thinking I'd like to go gas or nitro due to fact that I really don't wanna be running out of batteries, and having to wait to re-charge all the time.

Here's my problem: I would like something fast! I don't wanna make a mistake and buy something, then find out that it's not fast enough and not be able to do mods for it to go faster. I'd like a boat that can handle a little bit of ripple on the water vs only able to run on "glass" water.

I'm willing to spend up to $500 or less. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Jeff

[BoatDoc]

in my opinion, the best RTR nitro boat in your price range is the nitro hammer. they are reliable and fun to drive, plus they are upgradable...as long as you have some imagination. stay away from miss crudwiser, as most people are having nothing but trouble. search around the forum, you'll find plenty of info to help you make a decision.

[Ron Olson]

The Nitro Hammer or else the new Aeromarine Mean Machine 18, it should be out this month.

[scottericsonon]

the hammer is a nice unit for the 2bills or so theyre getting for it BUT you indicated u have a wee bit fatter of a budget than that

if i was you id be looking over here

http://www.bbyracing.com/nitromonohulls.asp

scott

[Chris LaPanse]

unless you include radio costs, in which case those are ALL over his budget. I would reccomend a CEN boat. They are decently fast and fun, and there are many hop ups available

[abx131]

Anyone heard anything on that new 36" proboat deep V with a .32 nitro and a fiberglass hull? It looks good but I have not seen any postings. It good good reviews in the magazines but we all know how "unbias" they are. It retails for about $350 which is not bad.

[Hydro Junkie]

If it says Pro Boat, I'm not interested. After reading for countless hours about the problems and required hop ups just to make the things work, forget it. $350.00 will pretty much pay for everything I need material wise to build a 1/8th scale hydro hull. Even better is the fact I know mine will be built right!

[Ron Olson]

I've heard a little about the ProBoat Shockwave 36, here it is. Flex cables breaking in new boats on first runs. No parts available yet so you'd have to buy another from Prather or elsewhere.
Watch the trim tabs, they may have to be adjusted before hot-dogging it.
The turn fins aren't located where they should be. They shouldn't be parallel with the side, they should be 90 degrees to the bottom. They should be trimmed to a curved angle. The exhaust system looks like it is choking the engine, a header port matching job should be done for better performance. The prop needs to be sharpened and balanced before running the boat. Reports of the radio box leaking.

[Hydro Junkie]

I rest my case

[Ron Olson]

Oh yeah, rudder linkage is weak causing flex and the rudder wiggling at speed.
Most RTR or RTF boats aren't perfect. Most of these problems are easily fixed and the boat is better for a newbie than the Miss Bud's which I do not feel was in the first place. You should have seen some of the junk that I started off with! Big boat Manufacturers ought to look into sites like this if they want to build something right the first time. What we really need is something that is ready to race out of the box that is already in an established class. How about a .21 or .45 sized boat? Even a .12 powered hull fits into the IMPBA "A" class. Put a .15, .16, .18 or .32 powered presently boat into a class that it's near and you're gonna get whooped!
Kyosho got close with it's .21 mono hull and it is a very good boat, a friend of mine in Japan did some of the R&D work on it but it's too pricy for what you get.

[RCGUY76]

Ron.....does PowerSurge products have his .12 wilthings hull for sale yet? is he selling them built....that would be a decent boat for beginners if it came RTR

[aquajetruner]

At least check out the CEN boats. I recently purchased one from Offshoreelectrics.com .The Aquajet is a nice 1st boat in either elctric or nitro. Mine Ran very smooth right out of the box. As a newbie I needed and still do need all the help I can get. This forum is great. And Steven at offshore is great with his customers. I also have been checking out the Mean Machine. As per Areomarine, not avail. until at the earliest Late Sept. Sounds more like around Christmas.

[Ron Olson]

I don't know if Mike is making the Wild Things right now. He was talking about getting a mold make and doing them in epoxy-glas. Send him an e-mail and he'll let you know what's up. I only know of 2 that were made, mine and his. They aren't cheap though but Mike's work is first-class. I had mine up to around 40 MPH just before the crank broke with a Trinity/Picco, a decent motor but not a hot one.
Go to his web site, www.grimracer.com for his e-mail address. My boat is in the photo area.

[Pagemaster]

I've heard a little about the ProBoat Shockwave 36, here it is. The turn fins aren't located where they should be. They shouldn't be parallel with the side, they should be 90 degrees to the bottom. They should be trimmed to a curved angle.

I spoke to Dennis Whitt about this a while ago about this and he told me he tried it on a hull and it helped over the 90 degree to bottom way. I was also told the Europeans have been putting them on this way for a while. I have ToysPort hulls I'm testing that turn on rails with the fins mounted parallel to the rudder.


Also thanks for the plug Aquajetruner!


Steven Vaccaro
www.OffshoreElectrics.com

[Ron Olson]

The Euro's and Japanese do a lot of things differently that what we do. I learn a lot by going to foreign sites seing how they do things.
I met Dennis last year at the MI Cup race and talked to him for a while. I don't agree with everything that they do, like the huge turn fins that they run. They had some that were larger than what I run on my 7.5 mono on 12 cell boats. Volt boat racing is different than what I'm used to, being a fuel burner.

[Pagemaster]

The Euro's and Japanese do a lot of things differently that what we do. I learn a lot by going to foreign sites seing how they do things.
I met Dennis last year at the MI Cup race and talked to him for a while. I don't agree with everything that they do, like the huge turn fins that they run. They had some that were larger than what I run on my 7.5 mono on 12 cell boats. Volt boat racing is different than what I'm used to, being a fuel burner.
Could it have to do with the extra weight we(as you say volt boaters) have to carry in the corners?

Steven Vaccaro
www.OffshoreElectrics.com