Truggy?

[Budman_222]

I've heard people mention truggys and am not sure exactly what that is. I've got an old rc10 buggy with a fiberglass chassis, t3 tranny, rc10t suspention arms and shocks, buggy tires and wheels, and a buggy body. What would you call this thing? :) It handles great.

[Budman_222]

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[always_opencarb]

a buggy. a truggy is a buggy with truck tires and can have a truck body i have a truggy can't post pictures otherwise i would show you

[thedarkness]

Truggy=4wd buggy+truck tires.The phrase started with the terrible herps desert race team,They took a baja buggy and made a trophy truck out of it(not completely sure if this was the first truggy but the first i heard about).

[Budman_222]

Ok , I don't know what this is then. This is truck suspention with buggy tires. Kinda backwards. Wide track buggy I guess. Thanks

[tnxfan]

8th scale buggy with MT tires

[Toyofast]

I've never really heard anyone use Truggy here in the RC world... in the real 1:1 world of off-road it happens often.......

You have a built up truck for wheelin'... but it's gotten to the point of almost not street legal so, go buggy with it yet keeping it still truck like. Most the time you'll 3 or 4-link the rear and maybe the front as well if you have the cash flow. Keeping mostly the cab and front fender skins to give that truck look or at least what's left. Rear would be a flat-bed/cage design.

Truck gone buggy = Truggy.

Few examples of real Truggy's....

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/83'%20buggy.jpg

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/DSC00123_sm.jpg

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/Dsc00005.sized

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/boogers.jpg

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/dscf1798.jpg


This one is more buggy'fied but has some skins on it :cool:

http://www.rcrockgear.com/BC/random/image005.jpg

[sportmaxxracer]

A truggy is a 1/8 scale nitro buggy with monster truck wheels, tires, and body. They run in the big block modified monster truck class.

[tnxfan]

I've never really heard anyone use Truggy here in the RC world... in the real 1:1 world of off-road it happens often.......



apartenly you havn't been to a big race

[maxxamillion]

IMO a 1/1 truggy is a go fast desert racer w/truck skin & a buggy base chassis w/V8. A 1/1 rock crawler is a tube chassis jeep essentially for going slow.
Buggies were never rock crawlers...
In rc imo, the most known truggy set-up is the 1/8 buggy w/MT tires, regeared w/stadium body.
Like the Blazer SST, which I plan to own. :D
The Herbst truggy kicks butt... :D

[Budman_222]

It's getting stranger :)

[Budman_222]

monster buggy. ok i'm done.

[tnxfan]

how about some jumbo kongs

[Budman_222]

Don't have any. The big tires make it handle heavy. Too much unsprung weight. Looks kinda cool, though. Handles real good with the extra width and travel from the st suspention and the buggy tires.

[Toyofast]

IMO a 1/1 truggy is a go fast desert racer w/truck skin & a buggy base chassis w/V8.

Sounds like a Trophy Truck or Baja based rig.


A 1/1 rock crawler is a tube chassis jeep essentially for going slow.
Buggies were never rock crawlers...


Jeeps suck... :cool:

[Skribble]

Jeeps suck... :cool:Too bad jeepinator wasn't here. :[

[StevePond]

Wow... :confused:

In a previous post someone correctly identified the origin of the term "truggy." The Herbst Racing Team popularized "truggy" with a new entry into the trophy class that was a combination of a TRUck and a buGGY. Put the two together and you have TRUGGY.

Where this applies to RC is the trucks that are made from buggy chassis. It started with the Nitro USA-1 many years ago and these types of trucks have dotted the monster landscape for a while. In RC it's simply a term used to describe a truck with a buggy-type chassis and suspension, usually a direct conversion from a buggy.

[packerfan3022]

Sounds like a Trophy Truck or Baja based rig.




Jeeps suck... :cool:



whaa?

so what kind of truck do u have? Why do jeeps suck!?

If jeeps do suck then why do soooo many people have them?
I dont really like the new jeeps but the older amc's/willys are excellent for offroading imo.

please tell me!

[Toyofast]

so what kind of truck do u have?

Look at my user name and guess ;) Toyota.




Why do jeeps suck!?


Name one built up Jeep made to actually wheel and it will not have any of the original running gear in place.

With a Toyota Or even a Zuki, you can run all factory running gear and still have it be bullet proof...up to at least 38's for Toy axles, 35's on Zuki axles.

If one were to build up a Toyota for wheeling you can keep it all Toyota very easily. From the factory Toyota offered so many great options, 4.88's, 4.56's, FF rear axles, E-Lockers, coils or leafs, etc.. That's just the small amount of stuff available in the US, over-seas much more options. Jeep gives you nothing.



If jeeps do suck then why do soooo many people have them?


To "look" cool. 90% of the Jeeps you see on the street stay there... never leave the street or mall parking lots. Recently you've probably noticed Jeep giving hype to being "Trail Rated"... those trails at the mall sure do get rough :rolleyes:

My involvement stems from the real 1:1 world of wheeling. If one were to spend enough time in that area you'd see that Toyota's are better built than any Jeep out there. And for half the cost.

[packerfan3022]

i agree about the new jeeps, eople whjo run cheorkees, unibody (sigh)

now the cjs i personly like the cj5s, for there short wheelbase, more agile when you have *squeeze* inbetween, trees where as pickups narmoaly scrap and/or have to back up manyu times. IMO there are pros aand cons for both, but i will always stick with amc-jeeps :)

Now look at the rock crawling comps. there are many hevily modifed jeepsm IE tuvbe chassis, dana 60 f/r, etc, i havent seen many toyotas!
Not only that but the populayrity of jeeps means that more local stores will carry parts for them when you 500 miles away at a trail ride and you break something.

[surfer]

Too bad jeepinator wasn't here. :[

wow..what did happen to jeepy?

havnt seen him in...years!

[surfer]

toyo, my dad has 85' samurai that we havnt used in years in my garage...man this thing is awsome for its size and 2.1 hp

[ElectricThunder]

Jeep was banned....:( But anyways, I like the buggy with the long suspension arms. Looks killer dude! The JANG on Ultimate RC did something like that second buggy pic you have I think, although it may have been a MF XXX-T. Still looked bad... :cool:

[Wizardman_1]

If one were to build up a Toyota for wheeling you can keep it all Toyota very easily. From the factory Toyota offered so many great options, 4.88's, 4.56's, FF rear axles, E-Lockers, coils or leafs, etc..
Dont Jeeps already have locking diffs stock? Also 4.11 gear reduction?

[Toyofast]

Dont Jeeps already have locking diffs stock? Also 4.11 gear reduction?


IF you want locking diffs in a Jeep you have to dish out the extra pennies for a Rubicon TJ.... then you get Dana 44's front and rear(although the front is a Dana 30 with some 44 parts and still no locking hubs :rolleyes: ), some cheezy air lockers made in China, 4.10's in the diffs and a 4:1 t-case kit and some beefy 31" tires....wow :rolleyes: The only way you can activate the air lockers in stock form is to have it in 4-low and with a 4:1 t-case that low gear is too low most the time in a stocker.

In the US, Toyota has offered the E-Locker in the 80 series Cruisers since the 1990's. Those also came with hi-pinion 3rds too.


Now look at the rock crawling comps. there are many hevily modifed jeepsm IE tuvbe chassis, dana 60 f/r, etc, i havent seen many toyotas!

Are they really Jeeps or just some Jeep like skins stuck to the tube? Dana 60's are not stock gear, neither is a Atlas t-case... If you think those Jeeps are Jeeps, think again... pull off those body pannels and I don't think you'll find much of Jeep left. You'll find Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, and aftermarket.

Name a strong axle made by Jeep...... yep, there isn't one. Look at Toyota. Those 8" 3rds are bullet proof, as are the 4-cyl t-cases and the turbo trannys.... You can build up a killer wheeling Toyota by using ALL stock Toyota parts, from gearing to suspension setups.

If you want we can continue this useless battle but it's pointless... For everything you say Jeep is good for I can top it with Toyota stuff. The Toyota-Jeep battle has been going on for many years and if you were to come to my clubs events you'd find about 4 Jeeps out of the 50 rigs playing. Mostly Toyota and Zukis.

[Wizardman_1]

I was taking about the 4WD-Lo cause my Grand Cherokee has it, (not an off-roader) and i read about it on the Jeep website. I didn't know Toyota were decent crawlers. Dont all Jeeps have the 4WD-Lo. Anyways, those are some nice pics Toyo.

[Toyofast]

I was taking about the 4WD-Lo cause my Grand Cherokee has it, (not an off-roader) and i read about it on the Jeep website. I didn't know Toyota were decent crawlers. Dont all Jeeps have the 4WD-Lo. Anyways, those are some nice pics Toyo.


If you have a t-case then you should have 2-hi, 4-hi and 4-low... normal t-case design.

New SUV's and some car like SUV's that are AWD(All Wheel Drive) still have a t-case but a computer controls fore and aft power placement. So they can not be considered a true 4x4. Hell... I don't even consider my DD a real 4x4 and it's a Toyota, only due to the fact that it DOESN'T have locking hubs. It has that crappy ADD(Auto Disconnect Hubs).

If you venture onto any real off-road board you'll see that Toyota's make up 90% of the web traffic and rig build-ups. Mostly due to how easily and inexspensive it is to build up a Toyota. You can add dual t-cases in a Toyota as if it was nothing nowdays. In all seriousness... Toyota's are the best rigs out on the trails mostly due to the fact that one can build them so easily and they are so tough running factory parts.

[packerfan3022]

if they are soooo popular on the *web* :rolleyes:

do a quick google search type in toyota trail rider toyota trail rider (http://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+trail+rider&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

and then type in jeep trail rider (http://www.google.com/search?q=jeep+trail+rider&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
OVER double the results......

now lets try ebay!

type in jeep (http://search.ebay.com/jeep_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQkeywordZ onQQstrkwZQ20toyotaQQsotrZ2QQcoactionZcompareQQcop agenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch)

now type in toyota truck (http://search.ebay.com/toyota-truck_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsotrZ2Q QcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch ) < so you dont get cars and crap...
well alot more

so why is there a magizine called JP(jeep) if toyo's are SO popular? hmmm lets ponder that one. I dont see a only toyota magizine now do I, do u? I would think not.....

fond this on a website :)


http://www.offroaders.com/images/readers/ToyJeep-2.jpg

now everyone knows IFS is not the greats for trail ridding, toy's started them in 1986 i believe, where as jeeps still use solid axles! i think anyway..... so people post-86' are still runnign stock ruinning gear with ifs? are these the yuppies with a 4inch lift and like 33inch tires and the truck has YET to see mud? perhaps.......anyway thats all.....

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[maxxamillion]

Toyofast, I just used Jeep as the generic 4x4 go slow off road vehicle.
I'm not partial to Jeep. They all need upgraded axles/T-cases to wheel(among other things)competently. Jeeps have good dimensions for TIGHT trails though. My ultimate 4x would be a flat fender w/4.3 chev & Atlas II T-case, etc...
Personally I own a Bronco(33's, D35, 8.8 posi/posi, 4.56's & 2.48 low range, Centerforce, balanced & World heads), but here in the Northwest trick trail jeeps rule the tight woods(in numbers count). Its really not worth the argument(like Savage/T-Maxx)-just have fun with what you got. Cha-chinghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Maxxamillion/Im000150.jpg

EDIT: Packerfan, serious Toyota wheelers swap to straight axles in front-do your homework!

[Toyofast]

if they are soooo popular on the *web* :rolleyes:

do a quick google search type in toyota trail rider toyota trail rider (http://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+trail+rider&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)




What kind of freakin' search is Toyota trail rider? What is that? Go to SNORT, PBB, RCRC, Marlin, etc... to see the real deal. If you have no clue as to what I'm talking about, then go away you don't know much about wheelin'. :rolleyes:



so why is there a magizine called JP(jeep) if toyo's are SO popular? hmmm lets ponder that one. I dont see a only toyota magizine now do I, do u? I would think not.....

JP? Dude... that JP rag is made to keep you on the streets and to play show'n'shine with the other mall queens. I haven't purchsed a rag for about 2 years now as they don't show anything good. Like I stated above, go to PBB to see real life of wheelin'.

You like JP... that means you probably like JU too. :rolleyes:



now everyone knows IFS is not the greats for trail ridding, toy's started them in 1986 i believe, where as jeeps still use solid axles! i think anyway..... so people post-86' are still runnign stock ruinning gear with ifs? are these the yuppies with a 4inch lift and like 33inch tires and the truck has YET to see mud? perhaps.......anyway thats all.....



IFS... yeah Toyota intruduced that to the Yuppy US market in '86 but go outside your little box, go outside of the US and look around. IFS didn't show up on a 4x Toyota untill '94 outside the US. Solid axles and double cabs are the norm outside the US up 'till 1994. The USA sucks big balls when it comes to trucks.


where as jeeps still use solid axles! i think anyway.....

Nope.... Jeep is slowly listening to the yuppy US market.... hell, they replaced the XJ with the stupid Liberty that has IFS, oh.. but it's "Trail Rated" by Jeep :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Stock Toyota axles(the solid ones) can handle real world use with up to a 38" tire, 5.29's, dual cases and lots of that 4-popper.

This debate over stupid Jeeps won't go any where... You'll lose since you surely know nothing about wheelin'. I bet you've never turned a wrench in your life either.

[Budman_222]

Dam guys, all I said is "what's a truggie?" You guys sound like a couple of kids arguing ford and chevy. This is why the off topic fourm is gone.

[packerfan3022]

I bet you've never turned a wrench in your life either.

ok i didnt mean to start a flame war ;)

now my jepp isnt very stock so all i can say is *** why would you think ive never turned a wrench? That hurts.


lol no my description of a RC truggy is that low cg center diff, with mt tries.

[surfer]

Jeep was banned....:(


WHAT!!!

how in the world could that happen?

[badtodabone]

acually a truggy is a dune buggy with a solid rear axle out of a truck (dune buggy+truck=truggy)

[mook]

lifted from http://www.truckworld.com/4x4-OffRoad/herbst/herbst.html

"Campaigned by Troy Herbst of Terrible Herbst Motorsports, "Truggy," as the vehicle is known, is a modern desert racing machine. Truggy's chassis is based upon a Trophy Truck design - two wheel drive, two passengers, tubular 4130 chrome-moly frame, engine in front, three speed automatic transmission, independent front suspension, solid axle rear suspension, and coil-over shock absorbers. Now although Truggy's basic design stems from a Trophy Truck, Troy races the vehicle in Class 1 Unlimited, which is typically dominated by the more traditional unlimited buggy. This is how the name Truggy came about in the first place: it's a truck, but it races in the buggy class."