The Worse RC Invention Ever? [Archive]

packetdreamer

08-03-2004, 11:55 AM

as i go through my mags and various websites i always see cool new innovations and inventions for our grand hobby. so i got to thinking today, "surely for all the good things that come out, there must be some really bad r/c inventions or ideas." so i ask you:

"what do you think is the most worse invention, innovation, feature, idea, or anything related to r/c cars that you have come up against in this hobby? (if such a thing exists because i can't think of anything... except maybe that supercharger thing).

*i don't intend for this to be a company bashing thread (leave names out), just some notes on the more useless r/c stuff.

Krasi_5000

08-03-2004, 12:21 PM

Nitro Scented Fuel stuff...you know the stuff you put in your fuel and makes the exhaust smell umm nice yeah i say thats garbage!

The Modfather

08-03-2004, 12:31 PM

stock battery plugs - not sure why they're still around - they need to go the way of the dodo.

packetdreamer

08-03-2004, 12:40 PM

Krasi_5000

08-03-2004, 12:50 PM

there was a device a while back that you could use to trim your lexan bodies. i think it looked like a cheese cutter and it had a heat element that would melt through the body. i can't find it now. hmm, i wonder why. does anyone remember that?

there are similar things on tower its actually a soldering iron with a special or i think is special x-acto knife blade. Next body i get i will mod my soldering iron to fit a blade on there. Cutting bodies will never be the same lol

Krasi_5000

08-03-2004, 12:58 PM

lol...packetdreamer are you saying that heat thing to cut bodies was bad? Although I never tried it I bilieve it makes cutting bodies a whole lot easier and convinient?!!

packetdreamer

08-03-2004, 12:59 PM

i used to try to poke bodypost holes with a soldering iron. all i got was strings of lexan stretching like spiderwebs from the iron to a malformed hole. anyhoot, whether your modded soldering iron works, dont forget to try to sell one to us.

always_opencarb

08-03-2004, 01:01 PM

it would probley smell bad when you cut it

packetdreamer

08-03-2004, 01:02 PM

lol...packetdreamer are you saying that heat thing to cut bodies was bad? Although I never tried it I bilieve it makes cutting bodies a whole lot easier and convinient?!!

maybe it did work for some, but the one i saw required ninja-like motor control. with heat going through lexan its hard to keep it straight. maybe the one on tower has been "refined" i will search for it.

Krasi_5000

08-03-2004, 01:04 PM

i wouldnt care about the smelling bad but i guess he is right about the stretchyness lol i just went and touched the tip of my soldering iron to a scrap piece of lexan and it streches like gum just nasty lol. I guess body scissors are good!

packetdreamer

08-03-2004, 01:10 PM

thats what happens when you try to outdo the tried and true exacto knife.

The Modfather

08-03-2004, 01:17 PM

SteveK

08-03-2004, 01:21 PM

You guys are thinking of two different things:
- The 'hot knife' is simply a soldering iron with an X-Acto blade instead of a tip.

- The Lexan trimming tool was a little Y-shaped piece of plastic with a battery strapped to it, and the little heating element across the top of the Y. It was almost like a cheese cutter, or those tools that you use to cut foam for railroad model scenery.

Bad inventions? Hmm. The one that let you use a Dremel tool to break in motors: Not only does the Dremel tool rotate the motor the wrong way, at least to break in the brushes, it was very tough to get the motor lined up with the collet in the Dremel and supported so there there is no binding or vibration.

There was also the laser alignment tool, tested at some carpet race, just for the sheer excess of it.

I'm sure there are others, I just can't remember any right now.

SteveK

08-03-2004, 01:22 PM

Another thing I haven't seen in a while - Associated "bead lock" rims for stadium trucks and buggies. The concept was very cool - and I dont' know if they are still around or not. I had nothing but problems with mine.

They still make at least the truck wheels, last time I checked, but they weren't very popular because they were heavier, bad for racing, and they could sometimes be a little work to get aligned with certain tires.

I liked them: If they made them with better faces, such as the RPM Torkerz, I'd still use them.

rocknbil

08-03-2004, 02:22 PM

^ ^ I still use the 3-piece wheels and have never had troubles with them, never had 'em peel or break a bead . . . .<shrug>

Worst invention list:

The dual exhaust pipes sold on eBay, the ones that are nothing but copper tubing.

Boost bottles, 'nuff said.

Jury's still out on superchargers, but probably also should go in there.

Tyco.

:D

surfer

08-03-2004, 02:34 PM

thats so weird, the other day when i went to the lhs i saw one of the soldering iron with a blade in it..i didnt get it

surfer

08-03-2004, 02:36 PM

ya bil! the ae wheels! those things rock!

tec_41

08-03-2004, 03:24 PM

hot knifes arent always a good idea to use on a body lol...kinda melts it unless ur REALLY careful. I use a soldering iron to punch body holes, but i dont heat it up all the way.

atm92484_3

08-03-2004, 06:53 PM

Superchargers and nitrous systems for 2 strokes.

C.J.OO

08-03-2004, 10:04 PM

I doube second ^^^^^^^ that...if it werent for the NoObS the supercharger CO.s would go broke Im suprised there not broke already...;).

NitroBoy24

08-04-2004, 12:26 AM

Dang!! I was going to say boost bottles, nitrous, and superchargers :D

HauntedMyst

08-04-2004, 12:34 AM

Production : Most of Kyosho's unique R/C's. First came the Kyosho Blizzard, a mobile designed for the snow. But it didn't actually work to well in the snow and the electronics weren't protected which means they would fry. You could attached a plow to it and what, plow your dog walk? No wait, it couldn't push anything due to lack of traction. Then came the Kyosho Quad Rider, a device so unstable, it made Anne Hache look like a guidance counselor. Then came the worst of all, the Kyosho's R/C Surfer. This is R/C for the cardiac excitement impaired. It had all the speed of a heavily medicated bassett hound. The only hope is that most of them were washed out to sea where they eventually sank to Titanic depths. Tied for last is Kyosho's Gun Walker, a battling robot. The r/c for Battle Mech fans! Of course, that battle could only take place on the 16"x12" plate that came with it. What fun is a battle in such a small space? Where's the realistic gun fire? Where are the expoding pieces? Once over $100, this gem can be yours for only $40 from Tower, until they've cleared their inventory to the last few suckers.

Non-production: Perhaps 3 or 4 times, I've seen guys show up at the track with cold air intakes mounted inside their bodies. Usually with duct tape. Very bad idea. All of them ended up getting ripped out of the car and dragged behind it, usually dislodging some other part of the car like the pipe.

For painting, I'd have to say Jackal Internal Graphics, tattoos for the inside of your car. Maybe the product isn't that bad but the ones I tried were blah and ripped too easy. Even more ridiculous was their ads "The Hottest Selling Product In R/C History" or something like that. If they are so hot, why have I only ever seen them used twice in like 3 years?

mtrsprt

08-04-2004, 02:08 AM

The "Failsafe". Just one more thing to go wrong. Prevenative maintenence, and keeping all your equipment secured, and charged correctly is all that is needed.

GTX

08-04-2004, 02:43 AM

Yes, Kyosho.

R/C Spinners are not needed either...

NitroBoy24

08-04-2004, 02:57 AM

The "Failsafe". Just one more thing to go wrong. Prevenative maintenence, and keeping all your equipment secured, and charged correctly is all that is needed.

Heh..

Sure keeping all your equipment secured and charged will prevent most problems, but it is perfectly fine too be "too safe" in my book :cool:

mtrsprt

08-04-2004, 03:36 AM

Heh..

Sure keeping all your equipment secured and charged will prevent most problems, but it is perfectly fine too be "too safe" in my book :cool:I have seen and heard of just as many R/C models with failsafes getting out of control of the owners hands.

CENthasizer

08-04-2004, 03:51 AM

p.n.e

08-04-2004, 03:59 AM

those stupid cold air intakes they sell on ebay, and those dual exhaust pipes for the tmaxx. from manufacters, i'd say plastic drive shafts, plastic tranny gears. Stainless steel screws are a big one, they are as soft as butter.

TrickSpeed

08-04-2004, 05:24 AM

E CLIPS!!!!!

Well maybe not an R/C invention, but they sure can be a pain in the youknowwhat sometimes.

And the R/C Snowmobile, they sold like what, seven of those?

rcaddikt

08-04-2004, 08:45 AM

It had all the speed of a heavily medicated bassett hound.

LOL! Very nice.

For me it's the "mini/micro" craze. To this day, I don't get the hype with these cars. Out of the box, no more exciting than a Tyco/Nikko car. $300 worth of hop-ups to get it to "perform" like a 1/10 scale. And still NOWHERE near as exciting/fun as tenth scale. No thanks!

Spoon37

08-04-2004, 09:15 AM

whats wrong with the nitrous bottles? and the spinners and also the ebay pipes... man if i didnt know anybetter i would think i'm a noob... thank god i understand superchargers do no good on a 2 stroke, but spinners do the trick (its been proven that the added momentum of the aluminum spinning will increase speed by 5mph)

oh dear.

since when were spinners made with anything other than looks in mind? to me they are the worst invention full sized or RC cuz they look rubbish(IMO at least), add weight, cost more etc and do not improve performance. you dont get something for nothing - a flywheel effect is possible, but you can add top speed by sticking some spinning crap to the wheels.

RC turbochargers - actual working turbos. someone forgot to tell them that you have to have the exhaust and intakes totally seperate to power the turbo and compress the intake.....D'oh!

mild steel dogbones - you can twist them by hand, how are they supposed to hold up to bashing??? :confused:

beadlocks are still around - they tend to be maxx sized these days, but there are a few 2.2" ones and clod sized ones around too - they make more sense on huge MT's than lightweight racing buggies/ST's - the beadlocks are a good idea tho.

:D

brickshelf

08-04-2004, 10:37 AM

For me it's the "mini/micro" craze. To this day, I don't get the hype with these cars. Out of the box, no more exciting than a Tyco/Nikko car. $300 worth of hop-ups to get it to "perform" like a 1/10 scale. And still NOWHERE near as exciting/fun as tenth scale. No thanks!

I hear ya! I don't get much fun out of my mini-t so soon i'm selling it and buying a 1/10 or 1/8 scale.

tec_41

08-04-2004, 10:56 AM

^^Same with me. I guess some ppl enjoy it more than others, but i just dont see why.

TBone77

08-04-2004, 11:10 AM

LOL! Very nice.

For me it's the "mini/micro" craze. To this day, I don't get the hype with these cars. Out of the box, no more exciting than a Tyco/Nikko car. $300 worth of hop-ups to get it to "perform" like a 1/10 scale. And still NOWHERE near as exciting/fun as tenth scale. No thanks!

Man, I've been wanting to say that for a LONG time, but didn't want to be that guy...

I'm happy for everyone who enjoys their Mini-T's, but I just can't figure out what the attraction is. I'd really hate for some outsider's first exposure to the hobby to be a Mini-T. I think that would be tragic.

CENthasizer

08-04-2004, 12:25 PM

oh dear.

since when were spinners made with anything other than looks in mind? to me they are the worst invention full sized or RC cuz they look rubbish(IMO at least), add weight, cost more etc and do not improve performance. you dont get something for nothing - a flywheel effect is possible, but you can add top speed by sticking some spinning crap to the wheels.

I was actually joking with the proven momentum part...you know me maka funny?
Anyways, look the reason you dont like spinners is because your English, and its a different culture over there, not a bad one, just different. Do they have cars with spinners over there?
anyway back to the mini rc's, i was afraid everyone loved them because at the track lots of guys had one as like "there other car", i just dont see the point of having something so small, esp if you cant drop a nitro in it!
HEY next project for me! Nitro Mini-T-----theres a stupid idea!

packetdreamer

08-04-2004, 01:24 PM

For me it's the "mini/micro" craze. To this day, I don't get the hype with these cars. Out of the box, no more exciting than a Tyco/Nikko car. $300 worth of hop-ups to get it to "perform" like a 1/10 scale. And still NOWHERE near as exciting/fun as tenth scale. No thanks!

and was it my imagination or did i see a 1/12scale touring car??? though it did look kinda cool, at this rate everyone on my block will be able to have a different class car and none of us will be able to race a fair race.

MikeWz

08-04-2004, 01:32 PM

Not a huge fan of the whole MINI craze either.

I have to say that Kyosho seems to be toping the list with the stupid invetions thing. They have this ducted fan electric jet that's free flight...Just incase you didn't catch that. A DUCTED FAN JET that's FREE FLIGHT. That's the most ingenius thing I've ever heard. We'll combine the speed and power of a jet and the ease of free flight...oh wait...

anyway
Spinners, yeah, not sure I see the point of them. I mean, I suppose they're not so bad on a pimped out escelade, but that's really it. It's the ugliest thing I've ever seen when it comes to BMWs and Lexus/Lexi :p . Why not spend that large sum of money on something that's going to actually give your car more performance, or if you're really into 100% looks, get a body kit. Geeze

trw

08-04-2004, 02:20 PM

oh man dont even get me start.....yea i hate spinners to....all over here (Houston, Texas USA), i mean...imo big fat but rims that have spinny thingies on em aren't very appealling....definitly not pimpaliscious :D .....anything "pimped out" to me is a waste of a good car....i mean i see on Spike TV some shows they have those old 66 Galaxies and Impalas and all those other cars that had potential...good classic cars with ugly paint jobs that are bright candy orange and neon pink that hop up and down.....perfect car to be crushed and scrapped then rebuilt the proper way a car should be.

what is so fun about a car that bounces? everytime i see one the driver always acts "mocho" (sp?) and gives me a dirty look as if he was a cool dude or something when i see him as a car destroyer lol sorry to those who i offend but thats just my personnal opinion.

back on track.....worst invention for rc...hmmmmm.....I havent been around long enough to know....hear alot about boost bottles though.

MicroMan

08-04-2004, 02:29 PM

I used to be into the micro craze but have since lost most interest in it. The only appeal of them is you can run them in very small places and they're fast. :o

Spoon37

08-04-2004, 04:54 PM

Centhasizer - my apologies, I didnt realise the sarcasm/joke... :D

as for spinners in the UK...doesnt really work, given that it only really works on as someone put it "pimped out rides" which you dont really get in the UK - not in quite the same way anyways. I understand some spinners/big rims are being imported but they arent really taking off.

besides the UK is mostly hot hatches with bodykits - you cant cram 23" rims under a ford KA....nevermind spinners!!lol

trw - I agree w/ u totally.

ElectricThunder

08-04-2004, 05:18 PM

Spinners are abominations IMO.

And those stupid hummer touring car bodies! AHHHHH!!

::end rant::

SerpentKing101

08-04-2004, 06:01 PM

I swear that if you people keep knocking spinners that my Maxx will commit suicide. :(

Yes, I agree that they can be used in "fugly" ways (I seen this Nissan station wagon-thing with some), But in reality, they arent that bad. The kids in my neighborhood love the ones I have on my Maxx, and some even did enough whining to get their own to play with (as in complete with a truck to mount them on)

Its always nice when companies pay attention to what their customers do besides buy their stuff. Yes It can be annoying at times (coughcoughmazdakidcough), but all in all, its worth it.

--- ---

Back on topic, world's worst RC invention (out of the stuff Ive ever used) are those overglorified on-off switches known as MSCs. Even some of the toy cars have smoother throttles.

tec_41

08-04-2004, 07:00 PM

If it werent for msc's, we probably wouldnt have esc's. But now that we do, its time for them to go away.

ElectricThunder

08-04-2004, 07:03 PM

Ya gotta admit MSCs are good for one thing... TONS OF CELLS TO WATCH THEM BURN!!!! HAHAHAHAHA! :D

tec_41

08-04-2004, 07:08 PM

ah yea, i forgot about that ^...

tnxfan

08-04-2004, 08:05 PM

HEY next project for me! Nitro Mini-T-----theres a stupid idea! http://www.tfbraceway.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_08.jpg
http://www.tfbraceway.com/pix/03_07_04/mini_t.wmv

SteveK

08-04-2004, 08:34 PM

And the R/C Snowmobile, they sold like what, seven of those?

I laugh every time I see one of those: They are cool and all, but the first year they were out my LHS sold dozens of them (Only shop I know of for 70 miles in any direction, at least), and that winter, we had barely enough snow on the ground to run them. You can probably count on both hands the number of days with enough snow to bury all the grass. Plus it was so cold out the batteries lasted half as long, and you risked frostbite if you stayed out for long.

And I do sort of agree about the micro craze, if you are looking for pure performance. I just enjoy driving miniature R/C cars and trucks, so it doesn't bother me, but I can easily see how people buying Micro RS4s for street running would be disappointed.

s-maxx-basher

08-04-2004, 09:17 PM

hm i think bushings r prety stupid. just use bearing insted. but i gusse thats not realy rc

packetdreamer

08-04-2004, 09:23 PM

hm i think bushings r prety stupid. just use bearing insted. but i gusse thats not realy rc

it's rc related and thats all that counts!

s-maxx-basher

08-04-2004, 09:35 PM

yea if not that then that thing 2 shut off the car (the plug 4 the exhaust) i think durbo or somethin makes it

MicroMan

08-04-2004, 11:12 PM

:eek: ^^^^^^^WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!! :eek: That has to be the all time STUPIDEST IDEA of all. :D Why didn't I think of that.

Chunk

08-05-2004, 12:17 AM

A fully aluminum Monster Truck, costing 5 times more than most MT. Instead of flexing and cheap repairs you get bends & breaks and 5 times more expensive to repair the bent aluminum parts and chasing down the next bent or broken item and throw more money at it to upgrade this and that trying to keep it from breaking or bending.

surfer

08-05-2004, 12:39 AM

how about a fully titanium 10,000$ HCR truck...

TrickSpeed

08-05-2004, 12:55 AM

I won't say the spinners, since thats more of a personal opinion and if someone likes them thats fine with me. Although I still wanna see a R/C schoolbus on spinners.

I think the snowmobile was bad, but then again I live in cali.

I think I'll nominate the original pro 3 chassis for worst invention, well unless you were racing stock that is.

bullethead

08-05-2004, 01:03 PM

jmo, mini-t.

150$ = 10 mph :rolleyes:

p.n.e

08-05-2004, 03:09 PM

i got one. how about nitro? nitro engines in general that is. they shoudl have designed them to run on gas or diesel from the start, and saved us a LOT of money. ;)

packetdreamer

08-05-2004, 03:41 PM

seriously though, how much longer will we see body pins. i would think by now we would have some sore of clip on deal of some sort to hold bodies on.

i remember kyosho had something on there old nitro corvette. the body posts were spring loaded and you would push the body onto it and a latch would hold the body in place.... seemed like a good idea to me.

packetdreamer

08-05-2004, 03:44 PM

Combatcm

08-05-2004, 05:40 PM

Those plastic "chrome" rims.

Duratrax ramp
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUB32&P=0

Dubro shut off thing
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRN7&P=0

Hate me. It's probably fun to use though.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEK1&P=0

HPI dash

Traxxas top fuel= USE OUR FUEL OR DIE!

Kyosho hyperfly

Krasi_5000

08-05-2004, 05:53 PM

hahaha i didnt know there was a "shut off thing" lol what a piece of junk, the thing is people proably bought that! lol

The Modfather

08-05-2004, 06:18 PM

Duratrax ramp
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUB32&P=0
Dubro shut off thing
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRN7&P=0
Hate me. It's probably fun to use though.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGEK1&P=0
Kyosho hyperfly
Is it just me, or do these links suck?

tnxfan

08-05-2004, 06:30 PM

the links work.

losi4life0007

08-05-2004, 06:36 PM

Original factory L-shaped allen wrenches. :mad:

Krasi_5000

08-05-2004, 07:32 PM

hey losi4life,
they do suck but they are free and they do work...for a while anyways lol i still use some of mine and dont really have any issues...but im starting to lol

RCMadMatt

08-05-2004, 10:56 PM

Sponsorship... :rolleyes:

Matt

trw

08-05-2004, 11:32 PM

Evilution

08-05-2004, 11:40 PM

pull starts...

tec_41

08-06-2004, 12:04 AM

I use Traxxas Top Fuel whats wrong with it? works fine for my engine.

Whats wrong is that its $28 a gallon. Traxxas knows that they can jack the price way up and still not lose any buisness.

TC3B3L3T3GT

08-06-2004, 12:26 AM

Who is ripping you off with $28 a gallon? It's $20 at my lhs and I could get Trinity Platinum 30% for less than 28.....
It seriously is junk though, try a different fuel for a few tanks and see if you still like it.

With shutting off your engine, would you rather mess with the air filter and get dirt in the carb, turn your car over to stop the flywheel, just so it can take a chunk out of your shoe, pinch the fuel line and lean out your motor and possibly mess it up, or plug the exhaust?
Kind of a no brainer, but I still wouldn't buy that plug, just use the end of a glow-starter or something...

MicroMan

08-06-2004, 01:01 AM

.......or your finger.

rccardude04

08-06-2004, 12:11 PM

Superchargers and nitrous systems for 2 strokes.

Ya read my mind :D
-Eric

Chunk

08-09-2004, 10:13 PM

haha yeah go ahead and use your finger.

darncars

08-10-2004, 01:52 AM

electric starters.you know and other people know you got it goin on when you plop down your money-time pit,fill her up start it in 1.5 pulls. i see electric using the equivelent of 10-50 pulls .just yank it!

trw

08-10-2004, 02:41 AM

i hate starter boxes....why lug something around as big as the entire car just to start it? my engine usually starts on the 3rd pull of its pull starter.

C.J.OO

08-10-2004, 03:44 AM

packetdreamer

08-10-2004, 07:17 AM

Pull starts are CR@p I only have one RC with a pull start and It hardly gets used..
Puul starts..PFFFFFFFFFFTTTT..I HATE PULLSTARTS...LOL..
LOL..@ Packetdreamer.......What RC is that.?. I thought I had some dinasours.....LOL>....

that, my friend, is a gin-u-wine kyosho zr-1 (uh-huh, that's right). a guy on my block got one [rich punk!]. all the guys on the block were jealous, and all the girls loved him*

*now i have a serpent 710 and all the guys on the block love me, and all the girls think i'm too darned old to be playing with toys... funny how life is.

rocknbil

08-10-2004, 11:29 AM

i hate starter boxes.....

Have you actually tried one trw? :D

I prefer S/B's, less things to go wrong on the car itself, less rotating mass, no blisters, and no Freudian imagery. :D

The threads here relating to faulty pull-starts, ranging from the things just plain not working right to causing the engine to stall far outnumber the ones relating to S/B problems, and most of those are due to not using the S/B correctly.

I still say boost bottles are the biggest farce of all, probably because many people are actually duped into believing they work.

trw

08-10-2004, 04:20 PM

no I havent and dont intend to.

Im a big basher / racer, Take my car to many parking lots, to the park and what not....I dont like the idea of having to take the equivalent of 2 cars when i can just pull a little string.

surfer

08-10-2004, 04:28 PM

the ez start.

packetdreamer

08-10-2004, 04:37 PM

packetdreamer

08-10-2004, 04:41 PM

my s-box (by pd)

my s-box is small and light. definately not the equivalent of a second car. my s-box powers my glow plug - all nice and self-contained. my s-box is easy on the nubs (i've gotten into the habbit of wearing my mountain biking gloves with starting my wifes ntc3*). my s-box can't suffer from a broken string. my s-box can't have a one way that won't catch. so, i love my s-box and it loves me.

the end.

*rtr with p/s engine.

i should probably also mention, though, that i don't just take my car any where and run it, if i did, then a p/s my be more convenient. when i take the care out, i am taking it with a purpose.

DCLXVI

08-11-2004, 07:05 AM

haha yeah go ahead and use your finger.

I usualy do...what would be the problem, the engine dies so fast the heat never becomes a problem (unless theres an airleak somewhere, IE the preassure line is not attached)...

My take on the topic? Brushed motors...

always_opencarb

08-11-2004, 11:39 PM

jumbo kongs they look like a tire that needs a diet

trw

08-12-2004, 01:09 AM

I usualy do...what would be the problem, the engine dies so fast the heat never becomes a problem (unless theres an airleak somewhere, IE the preassure line is not attached)...

My take on the topic? Brushed motors...

brushed motors are u kidding? I'd rather have a brushed motor then Brushless when it comes to my Pajero....i dont like flying over rocks at 50 mph.... unless they made like a low performance BL that was slower and more for offroading then I'd go for it but apparently they dont.

DCLXVI

08-12-2004, 06:04 AM

Well, if threre weren't any brushed motors avaiable I guess that someone would be making brushless crawler motors...

CENthasizer

08-12-2004, 01:02 PM

Ok ok, differentials on the rear on a touring car, why not just lock the back and have full power? Plus pull starts are good when your on the track or in a huge parking lot and you can go out there with ur glow starter and start the thing up and run back to where you were standing. Instead of taking your big ol' box out there and carrying it back...

trw

08-12-2004, 02:40 PM

If you lock the rear diffs...with an uncorrect setup, you'll find that your car will be sliding out around corners alot....I tried that theory in my TC3, didnt work to well.

Piggy89373

08-12-2004, 03:04 PM

hmmm....bushings, the clutch spring on the original GT, and the brushless set up for a mini t (it's like putting a viper engine in a Gremlin), and I second the mini-craze

Windsorguy99

08-12-2004, 03:50 PM

For those knocking starter boxes and singing the praises of pull-starts...if you've ever been in the heat of a race and had a flameout....try a hot-re-start with your pullstart...

and then go see the medic for your bloody fingers...

if you screwed up and ran the tank dry, getting fuel into the engine before it vaporizes can be very tricky....what's that? use the primer you say? they leak...

Long live the starter box!!

My vote for worst RC invention - Nitro RTR kits marketed to first-timers in the RC hobby...too omany have no respect for the speed or danger of an oout ofo control vehicle and don't know enough to properly setup, tune, or maintain their fancy toys.

trw

08-12-2004, 05:12 PM

actually getting fuel to the engine after running a tank dry is simple as pressing the lil pump thingy on the tank...pushes fuel through the line to the engine....not that tricky.....

lol you shouldnt need to see a medic for your bloody fingers unless your careless enough to put your fingers on the heatsink...every man can take some heat without whining....

Long Live Pull Starts! :D Start a Rebellion...You will Fail Starter Boxes!! :p

always_opencarb

08-12-2004, 05:16 PM

body clips as said before

rocknbil

08-12-2004, 05:22 PM

trw - though your NTC3 does, most tanks don't have a primer. :D And many prefer it not to, one more place to spring a leak. I've used and had both and like the starter box, it isn't that heavy to carry around. :rolleyes: It's why it comes with a handle.

CENthasizer

08-12-2004, 10:00 PM

Ok ok, what do you do when the battery goes out on the box, but your car is on the track? can we agree that its nice to have a pull start when your car suddenly goes out on the track and you need to quickly restart it?

I dont like chrome painted wheels, although i like the look i hate the chipping, the, glueing etc...

Someone should make a mini t with pullstart, boost bottles with nos bottles and a supercharger. With blinging chrome wheels.

69_camaro

08-12-2004, 10:17 PM

the worst thing invented was the 8 hour charger lol :cool:

trw

08-12-2004, 11:08 PM

bil lol i have an HPI RS4 3 SS not an NTC3 :D

rcguy2477

08-13-2004, 01:33 AM

starter boxes are way better. The first time i got a nitro rc(and last), it took about an hour to start it. With a starter box, i would have had a lot less blisters. At the track, no one starts thier car in the middle of the track, so there are no advantages there. Starter box batteries will last very long, many times there will be one bump box at the side of the track that everyone uses all day long with no problem.

And primers are bad too. They can cause a major problem if there is a leak. Its just as easy to put your finger on the stinger, and it doesnt cause an air leakage.

Some stupid inventions..
Buggy grip stuff- its a traction compound that doesnt do squat
p94 brushes- if they were so good, why didnt the better motors use them?
endbell heat sinks on the d6- they are so small that they are useless
rtr rubber tires- they might as well put ice skates on the car
irs tc3 chassis- its just as flexible as the stock one

darncars

08-13-2004, 02:01 AM

non waterproof esc pretty stupid.on third on the emaxx

rocknbil

08-13-2004, 02:44 AM

bil lol i have an HPI RS4 3 SS not an NTC3 :D

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I didn't think the NTC3's had primers, got me to wonderin'. :D

403forbidden

08-26-2004, 07:35 AM

The "Failsafe". Just one more thing to go wrong. Prevenative maintenence, and keeping all your equipment secured, and charged correctly is all that is needed.

:rolleyes:

ttweedle

08-26-2004, 08:39 AM

Pull starts are ok on a "sport" engine but try yanking on a High compression/ interference fit .21 and you will be wishing for your buddies starter box. I have seen some RB WS7's that when new would bog a huge OFNA starter box, with a newly charged battery.

Personally I hate bandwagon jumpers...ie Losi has a new truck they buy it, AE gets a new truck they buy it... they get beat using them all.

pballdude

08-26-2004, 12:48 PM

racinlosi

08-26-2004, 01:30 PM

brushed motors are u kidding? I'd rather have a brushed motor then Brushless when it comes to my Pajero....i dont like flying over rocks at 50 mph.... unless they made like a low performance BL that was slower and more for offroading then I'd go for it but apparently they dont.

That is a REALLY easy fix. Just lower the cell count so it has less volts going to it, OR get a motor like the C50 XL and use the same amount of cells, but it will go slower because of the low KV rating.

Want MBX-4

09-01-2004, 12:19 AM

How about the little timing adjuster in electric motors? What a pain in my-uh, er, em- well you get the point!!! :D

rcguy2477

09-01-2004, 05:02 PM

How about the little timing adjuster in electric motors? What a pain in my-uh, er, em- well you get the point!!! :D
Adjustable timing is far from a stupid invention. It helps people tune thier motors for the track, and it also helps with decreasing the wear on your comm.

Want MBX-4

09-01-2004, 05:10 PM

No not timing itself-dont get me wrong, I race electrics every week and I understand all of everything, but the "cam" insde the motor coulda been different, or Idunno. I cant win...

kitty

09-03-2004, 05:26 PM

Then came the Kyosho Quad Rider, a device so unstable, it made Anne Hache look like a guidance counselor. Then came the worst of all, the Kyosho's R/C Surfer. This is R/C for the cardiac excitement impaired.

the brushless set up for a mini t (it's like putting a viper engine in a Gremlin)

I've been in a lot of pain lately due to surgery and needed a good laugh. Haunted, thank you for nearly busting a gut over the Anne Heche comment! And Piggy, that statement gave me some seriously funny imagery.

Laughter does seem to be the best medicine right now. Thank you guys for a great dose!

Re: Spinners. I thought I'd seen everything until not long ago seeing two pretty disturbing things:
1) An 18-wheeler with spinners. No kidding. A fully blinged out big rig.
2) Some guy in a gold, rattle-can-painted POS small car (can't remember the make - I was laughing too hard over the paint and the wheels) with, get this - spinner hubcaps. I guess it was only a matter of time until someone made cheapo spinner hubcaps for the less fortunate who have to resort to spray cans for paint jobs.

Losi Stealth

09-04-2004, 10:48 PM

I thought i had seen everything concerning spinners after the oldsmobile sedan with spinners going down Square Lake once, but last week I saw a charter bus with spinners while I was down in Grosse Point. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but the work that must have gone into creating them must be astounding.

astainback

09-05-2004, 12:50 AM

xmods... I am on an anti-Radio Shack kick right now.

sike...

hahahahaha.
I actually think the xmods are cool. I don't own one, but I would like to try one out.

hmmmm... worse would have to be... aluminum rims for monster trucks. (not the rims, the price.. i mean, come on, i could get them for my real car for 250 to 300)
haha

i don't know.

HauntedMyst

09-05-2004, 02:18 AM

Worst R/C invention? Probably this $150 POS some guy is spamming the boards with http://www.iggfactory.com/shop/images/f1/remote_control_f1_1_4.htm

GramdeGixxer

09-05-2004, 03:49 AM

Lite kits/underlight kits.
the Hpi Dash.
Thar new dragster that Chris Chianelli is plugging all over the world.

JC472

CENthasizer

09-05-2004, 04:21 AM

ok, if you look at the begining of this thread you will see that i fought vigorously for the pull start... I can now say i hate to death. I just bought a fantom fr15 for my ntc3, and because it was a kit it needed a pullstart SE engine. I know its not a real fancy italian high compression beast, but i had 3 huge blisters on my middle finger and they HURT like hell, but because i was so angry it wouldnt start (needles were way out of whack) i kept going and going, untill the skin actually came off...now its raw red skin...."thats a keeper"

Thats when i stopped, and almost...almost kicked the **** out of it and swore i would buy a starter box EVEN if i keep the pull start on (dont want to convert). Its a pain priming it becuase i am used to primers, and then trying to start it, ergh... (pics coming soon)-ok not really its kind of gross!

But on the other hand both my other cars start FIRST pull!
I am for the Light kits if you want to have a show car and enter it in RCCA readers rides to get you a free year subscription! but not for racing at night...they dont work that good

broncobill

09-05-2004, 10:56 AM

http://www.iggfactory.com/shop/images/f1/remote_control_f1_1_4.htm

agalanis

09-05-2004, 11:36 AM

There was one company selling battery packs with 'heat sinks' on the battery bars. OH yeah... the extra 25 mm square MAX, amount of aluminum for the whole pack is giong to cool down the battery.

Another questionable 'hop-up' is the aluminum battery hold down. I might be wrong though.

Ok, and now an Old Skool hop-up. Some company made a trailing arm conversion kit for the Kyosho Ultima (my first and still favourite car... don't slag it :-P). On the other hand, it would be cool to have just for a shelf queen.

As for my boost bottle I just fill it with nitrous so there :-P

The Trinity 'shock dyno' that sucked large. I have one... and I never use it...

Finally, I totaly agree with the AWFUL all metal maxxes. My LHS had one on display, and the suspension was so sticky and notchy. The stock max has such a nice squishy suspension why would you want to change that?