RC commercials

[Andrew the RC man]

i know ve went over this before but, my 2 LHSs are now showing long 5 second commcials and i dont mean like once i a week or once a day. i mean like once every 10min at the very most. maybe RC will become a mainstream hobby/sport....theres a touchy subject there...i want more friends to race with, but i dont want rc to be some stupid popularity fad

[ReMeDy]

I'd prefer no commericals, just stay underground and the community at this rate wouldn't be so dummied down. Like everything will become RTR, and a thousand ppl will be here everyday asking simplistic questions that can drive the hobby extinct. IMHO atleast.

[mavrick0611]

in a way i would like r/c to be really popular to get a bunch of tracks and going in stuff, but then again you dont want every idget out there with one.

I saw a Hobby Town USA Commercial twice back in February and January. It was they gayest. It had theme music and stuff. Show People plaing airplanes, jumping cars, and racing, and REAL gas powered boats. That would be a commercial.
aj

[Randy]

the day rc becomes main streem im quiten because main streem sucks. just look at the "music" do u really want rc to end up like that.

me and my friends have formed a... well its and rc gang basicly. we got this hole hardcore anrchy rc thing going.
we have 2 rules NO rtrs and NO traxxas. :mad:

and yes i do realize that the hole hardcore thing aint a good place to have rc become pupular. buts it better than main streem. alot better.

[Oyster]

RC is mainstream here on the BB, does that mean it sucks?

- jon

[jeepinator]

Look at it this way: The more people in the hobby, the cheaper it will get. When revenue potential increases, so will the numbers of vendors and manufacturers, meaning monopolistic companies such as Trnity will lose their grip on pricing. These are all positive attributes, so I am for it.

[Jo_bomb17]

HEY MAN!What do u got against TRAXXAS????Traxxas is a GREAT compony for begginners, and experts alike!Its GREAT for begginners because of its VERY DURABLE vehicles,and VERY CHEAP rtr vehicles!Its great for experts, who want the challenge of taking a "basher" and turning it into a "racer"!I own a rustler, and i am ranked 2nd at my track racing in the pro stock class!So what exactly do u have against traxxas?

P.S im not mad, i am just asking a legable question!So if i sound harsh, im not trying to be!Thanx :D :D :) :p :cool:
See what i mean?Im all smiles!

[Nitrotruckman]

Hey Randy, when I first read your post it was hilarious. No, rtr and no Traxxas. That gave me a laugh. I understand your rules though. Traxxas pretty much markets towards beginners in the hobby with their "EZ-Start" and rtr trucks. Once you're through that stage, you're more than ready to move on to other brands. My LHS sucks, because they only support Traxxas, and I have an Ofna. The guy who works there acts like he has never driven anything but a Traxxas. He makes me mad :mad: . The guy is practically a sales person for Traxxas.

Now for my opinion on r/c commercials. I'm all for it! Well, almost. It could only be beneficial to the hobby. First of all, more tracks would open (there would actually be a track near me!). Competition would be intense between the companies, and better, more advanced cars and trucks would result. I have actually been laughed at for buying a $500 minature truck, and the people didn't even know anything about it nor ever seen it run, so they were too ignorant for me to explain to them about it. if this hobby would grow, then these stupid people would figure it out, but that's not good I guess, since nobody wants idiots into this hobby, and soon every kid and his brother would have one. I like to be a little set apart from the crowd.
There's my opinion.
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[KIWIRCGUY]

I must say Im perplexed by some of the comments regarding this subject. I for one think that RC growing would be a great thing for the sport. As Jeepinator and others stated prices would drop and standards would rise. As for the statement regarding "Idiots". Just what is an Idiot?? Someone who doesnt understand the sport?? In that case I would venture to say that at one stage we all were idiots, and after reading some of the replies I must say some of us still are. Because of a lack of commericalism within the sport here, we have lost all but two of our off road clubs and on road is starting to become stale with little or no growth. It would pay to think about this before stating that you want no "idiots" in your sport/hobby. Because no growth = no new products, which means compaines will look else where for their profits and RC will disappear for good.

My 2 cents worth.

[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: KIWIRCGUY ]

[maxxxracer]

hobby people also has comercials on ABC

[ChumsGum]

In the 80's, Tamiya had some commercials running on television. I even remember Tamiya RC models being sold everywhere from Toys R Us to Costco. Did the commercials help? Apparently not as since the 80's RC has slowly dwindled.

What can be done to make the hobby grow? There's an interview with Joel Johnson in www.rcracing.com (http://www.rcracing.com) where Joel shared some of his thoughts on this subject. He said, "manufacturers are working against each other to get a bigger piece of the pie, when instead, they should be working together to make that pie bigger." When this happens, all will benefit.

[bluesy]

Chums Chum has hit the nail on the head. Look what NASCAR did. Sure its still racing (very heated racing indeed) but the manufacturers aren't trying to cut each others throats. they all put a ton of money into the developement of the new racers. A "farm system" aka Busch series and trucks. That association is on a rocket ride. Sort of like the CANAM series did in the late sixties. I think anything that can be done to broaden the appeal of RC is a step that ALL manufacturers should partake in rather than trying to have the "whole pie". IMHO (in my humble opinion for some folks...HM*snicker*). :cool: :cool:

[Traxxaskid]

derfinatly for it we dont; even have a real hobby shop where I lie and that really sucks!! so RC being mainstream would kick arse!!! then i might actually be able to drive with someone else, if Rc was as popular as video games are now we would really be in for a treat, I can just imagine how awsome that would be!!!

[oodlesonoodles2001]

Ok, i dont like all of this RTR bashing. I recently bought a T3 RTR. This was not my original intention (i was planning on an evader at the time actually) but when i saw the T3 kit i was tempted to buy it, the only problem i had 170 dollars, and they chapest ESC they had was a Super Rooster, and i was not goin to settle with an MSC. SO i had no other choice but to buy an RTR. That is not to say i am unfamiliar with the car, but not neccasarily every other RTR owner, i have stripped my truck to the ground at least 2 times. Now mabey not all RTR owners will do this, but that is not cause to brand every one who owns one. Just my 2 cents.
As for commercionaliuzation of RC, i am not opposed to it, but i am not in favor of it, i would like to see lower prices on things, but i would definatley be annoyed, by the popularity contest, that would probably consume the hobby. I am aslo no tin favor of people, calling RC's toys, which they r not, they all say its dumb iuntil it is in action, then they rush out to buy one. Although i would not like to see poeple wrting here, asking how to hook up the motor to the ESC. that is my opinion.

[jeepinator]

RTR ?
Yeah it is a good thing.
RTR's overbearing popularity ? (well, perceived popularity, primarily by the manufacturers)
It is making me sick !

OK, how many friggin radios do I need ? I got like 5 of those ridiculous, featureless, WORTHLESS RTR radios around here. I don't want to pay for those ! How stupid !
Let's see ... I have wanted a MAXX for like a year. Why have I not bought one ? Because I don't want to pay for yet another ridiculous, featureless, WORTHLESS RTR radio.

Hehehe, OK someone calm me down ! :p

Sooo ... as stupid as it may sound (and probably is) I am NOT buying a MAXX until they have a whatever version without the ridiculous, featureless, WORTHLESS RTR radio.

[draggerman11]

Jeep, remember they have the radio especially with the third channel for the Maxxes. Unless you want to go fork out a huge amount of cash for the XR3, you need that radio.

[maxxxracer]

I'm with jeep on the maxx thing even though I have boughten both the e and t. yes the radios are POS's but I dont have the cash to fork out to get more recievers for my lynx 3d, so right now I have a traxxas radio. I use my good radio inj my race car and use my cheap radio in my maxx.

As for comercializing RC witch it is to an extent, I am all for it. I want lower prices, I want more peeps to drive with, and I dont want people to keep calling these things toys. The only problem I see in it is all the idiots it would attract. There are already alot of them.

[bullfrog]

i think it would suck if rc became really popular i mean come on dont u like beaing the only one on your block that has and rc car that can go 50 mph??

[jeepinator]

I have an M8 with the 3rd channel just sitting there, waiting to do something.
Before that I had a JR R756 with a 3rd channel just waiting for something to do, and before that I had a Caliber 3P with a ... oh you get the idea.

[draggerman11]

Jeep, although I was pretty sure you had that problem covered, not all people have that option, and thats why I mentioned that. BTW, get on AIM! :p

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: draggerman11 ]

[HauntedMyst]

the day rc becomes main streem im quiten because main streem sucks. just look at the "music" do u really want rc to end up like that.


Yes, main stream does suck. Look at what happened when the internet went main stream. Any idiot could buy a computer and a net connection and make ridiculous posts on a message board.

me and my friends have formed a... well its and rc gang basicly. we got this hole hardcore anrchy rc thing going.
we have 2 rules NO rtrs and NO traxxas.

hardcore anrchy? with R/C cars? I don't think you know what anarchy means. Please look it up at http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

What do you and your anarchist friends do with your R/C cars? Set up little 1/10th scale villages and pretend to take over the government? Or are you more of a gang and you set up little pretend drive by shootings? Maybe you hide behind bushes and just commit drive by leg whackings on unsuspecting passers by?

and yes i do realize that the hole hardcore thing aint a good place to have rc become pupular. buts it better than main streem. alot better.

Geez, where do I start with this response?
1.) I think you should spend more time studying and less time playing with your cars.
2.) You need to resolve your bitterness issues towards the government.
3.) I think we can all agree we would hate to have R/C go main stream (or streem as Randy puts it). Think of what would happen! Why, the manufacturers would make more money and that would only lead them to hiring more people, some of which would be more engineers. Some of those engineers would start messing around trying to "make things better" and the next thing you know we'd have electric cars running for 30 to 60 minutes, recharging those batteries would only take 5 minutes, tires would last the entire racing season and nitro engines would run all the time at their optimum settings, even for the newbie! We can't have that! Oh yeah, with the increased popularity, there would be more competition. Competition would only lead to lower prices. Forget the thought of getting a Factory Team kit for half the price is it tody and think about who on god's green earth wants to spend $25 for a set of wheels, tires and inserts when we're so happy to pay $50 for them today! I think we can all agree we can't let that happen.

BTW jeep, if you have any spare radios and receivers, let me know. I need one for my sons truck. PM a price will ya?

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: HauntedMyst ]

[chizzler]

What do you and your anarchist friends do with your R/C cars? Set up little 1/10th scale
villages and pretend to take over the government? Or are you more of a gang and you
set up little pretend drive by shootings? Maybe you hide behind bushes and just commit
drive by leg whackings on unsuspecting passers by?


too funny :D

[TC3Racer]

most people still refer to R/C as toys... when they think R/C they think Tyco, Nikko, and that stuff. i have gotten about 10 people into R/C but most of them just say that they are *** little toys and i'm wasting my time. they can think what they want and i dont really want to many people into R/C cuz then it'll just turn bad and everyone will want one and have one. its fine as it is now. although, we all know that R/C is growing at quite an alarming rate but is still pretty low profile. just my .02 cents.

[Andrew the RC man]

jeep- i could always use another worthless radio...i got 2 working radios and 6 cars(both nono-digi radfios)

HM- i take offense...i make stupid posts and im not any other idiot....im just bored outa my wits...most people who make idiotic or stupid posts are bored, take this post for example
:rolleyes:

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: Andrew the RC man ]

[HauntedMyst]

Yes Andrew, that was a good example.

[Nitrotruckman]

The only problem I see in it is all the idiots it would attract. There are already alot of them.
Yes, that's very true. KIWIRCGUY, the "idiots" I was referring to are people who disrespect the hobby of ours by saying our cars are toys and such, and later the "idiots" decide to go with the crowd and the fad and buy a car themselves. They no longer hate the hobby, they think it is the thing to do. Now, an idiot in my opinion, in this hobby, is someone who is doesn't think for themselves and goes with the crowd. And, like I said earlier, I prefer to stay away from doing exactly what the "crowd" is doing.
I wish I could explain better.
"The last person to laugh is the wisest of them all."
by: I forgot who.

[Randy]

im kinda known for drive by leg whackings in my neighborhood.

and let me fill u all in on y i dont like traxxas. iv had 2 run ins with them one being a ruslter the other being a nitro sport. nither truck could hold up. i managed to break stuff on those trucks that would never break on my associated or losi trucks. compaired to my rc10 and losi trucks and buggys traxxas cant take a hit. and that hole ez-start is a P.O.S. i got so :mad: at that thing that i put a pull start on it. and sold it. thank god these "trucks" wernt mine.

and as for that hole anarchy thing yes i know what it means i just couldnt think of a better way to put it.

and as for me not being able to spell. i am dislexic and i have ADD (atichin deffeset disorder) so back off the spelling thing i cant help it.

[HauntedMyst]

I also have ADD, some times its a bear. As for the Traxxases being P.O.S. I cant agree, I've never owned one. I like how someone in the magazine put it though, some people and some cars don't mix. I had an HPI EMT that was more fragile then Robert Downey Jr coming out of rehab. Every time I ran it, something broke on it, yet lots of people on here seem to love it.

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: HauntedMyst ]

[Andrew the RC man]

lol robert downy Jr. outa rehab huh??? LOL!!!

well that is true and false id rather put it as some people and some Co.s dont mix

[hotmodrc]

RC going mainstream is probably inevitable. I don't know about other places but my LHS supports itself (hobytown usa) mainly thru lame stuff, like D&D style card games, and kids expeiriment stuff. Things are always cooler to the "in" crowd when it stays underground. Does metallica ring a bell? lol. It's the same as everything else, once the hoopla dies the underground will still be here, and hopefully getting the richy kids' slightly used mp 7.5's at a huge bargain!! lol :D

[Grant Tokumi]

Hey Jeep, nows the time to buy the EMAXX. Forget the extra radios, A Traxxas promotion will send free aluminum shocks upgrade when you buy from now to Nov. 1! $100 value. I think I'm going buy a second EMAXX :).

http://www.traxxas.com/support/forms/shocks/trx_shocks_offer.htm

As far as R/C going "mainstream", I find it strange that people now don't want that to happen. I could have sworn I've seen mulpitle threads pleading for more R/C media coverage. R/C on TV, show big R/C races on ESPN, R/C in Toys R' Us, overall better coverage by mass media. Kind of strange that this thread has all of a sudden gone 180 degrees on that idea. Big Brothers 2 shouldn't have had them playing with rc cars? Those NASCAR driver better NEVER show their rc car on TV? My god, they might promote our hobby? I'm going to hate and quit riding my dirt bike because its "mainstream"? Am I misunderstanding someone's view on this?

[Andrew the RC man]

to clarify, tamiya use to sell the lunchbox and clodbuster RCs in toys r us

[Randy]

those "RC" trucks on big brother 2 wernt rc cars they were traxxas.

the reason i dont want rc going main stream is because it will open it up to the posers. a bunch of fat pocketed geeks that only want in on it because of the popularity.
i have no problim with them showing rc racing on tv but jack the price way the hell up so that these posers dont mess it up for the core people.

and
Grant Tokumi
dirt bikes will probibly never go main stream because of the price. it takes fat bank. and thats how it should be. dirt biks are popular but there not main stream because the mass media still has the "people" thinking that its some deval afeleated heavy metal bash with guys doing stupid stuff on a dirt bikes.

METAL MULISHA world dominashon.
deegan rocks

[draggerman11]

Hmmm, what is an R/C car? An R/C car, is a car, that is controlled by radio signals. It seems that Traxxas cars are cars, that are controlled by radio waves, so we have to come to the conclusion that Traxxas cars are R/C cars :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Grant Tokumi]

Hmm. Randy, I honor your opinion. I guess your definition of mainstream is a little different from what I thought you and others may have meant. Seeing that the word "mainstream" got brought into this discussion of rc commercials, I thought going "mainstream" meant getting more exposure out to the public about our hobby by showing it on tv, commercials, etc. I guess you're talking more along the lines of r/c becoming a sort of trendy (mainstream) thing to do, much like ..... skateboarding, rollerblading, playing basketball, or maybe golf (if you are older), or having a nice expensive souped up car and glass shattering car stereo kind of thing, regardless of how they get that popular.

Anyways, I personally want to see more rc commercials, rc on TV and ESPN. I want to see NASCAR drivers playing with their TCs on national tv. I want to see more kids playing with rc cars in parking lots. I believe RTRs popularity/quality will be a major factor in
this happening, but so be it.

BTW Randy, I have a feeling your statement, "jack the price way the hell up so that these posers dont mess it up for the core people" won't be very popular with the core people. :)

[HauntedMyst]

lol I, for one, am hoping they jack the price up. I have these piles and piles and piles of cash sitting around and I don't know what to do with it.

Whats a poser?

[TC3Racer]

a poser is like someone who acts like they know lots about R/C but then you figure out they dont and they are known as 'posers'.

I agree about traxxas being crap but they are good for beginners to start out and they do have great service. although traxxas isn't that great you can't say that about the T/E-maxx. they are great MT's and the most popular selling R/C's out there which isn't surprising.

[ReMeDy]

Well Remember when Napster first came around and only a few ppl knew about it. Then the word spread about how good it was. Now look @ napster. I don't want this hobby falling in the same direction.

[Jwelch]

You all sound like a bunch of Californian kids complaining about the punk scene. I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing the prices drop as the hobby becomes more popular. I don't however, want it to become another playtime activity for the rich kids. I only want it to go as far maybe r/c airplanes. Everyone's heard of those right? lol. The worst part about it going mainstream would be the fact that other bozos with RTR's would be able to out-drive me on my block. THAT would suck :D

[jeepinator]

It's poseur to those who care.

[jeepinator]

BTW, what of all this talk about rich and wealthy ?
The elitist attitude could definately take a hike if you ask me.
... and I thought the Jeeper dudes with the "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand" motto were wiggy ! These are toys people. Yes, and a great hobby, but toys nonetheless.

[Pat]

here is how i see it. Well it gets popular with the normal kids then the rich kids find out tell their mparents to get it the getit it everyone has them and it would be just like having video games. But it then the fad would die out leaving us the people here now. And trust me we people who buy our cars trucks with hard earned money know exactly (or close) to how much their car is work at any time. The richs kids wouldnt know so yes we could get some bargains but thats not the point. I would like it to become like a not popular but i have noone to race with NONE there are no tracks close by but it get depressing going up the street down the street. Well there is one kid im starting to become friends with but one and he is allways busy grrrr. Well they should never be sold in TOYS R US because theere you cant go get tech help. Mainstream ahhh no maybe a stream off to the side yes then i could "play" with someone. And Jeepinator if you could give me a price on a radio i could use one for my project chainsaw RC Email me at patF10@aol.com PatF10@aol.com

[Railman]

An RC chainsaw?? :eek:

[Railman]

Guys, Your panicking over nothing. This sport needs all the exposure & newbies it can get. New people are what makes any hobby a viable business for the manufacturers. The more money that flows into it, the more competition there is, the more improvements are made, the lower prices become. There could be more tracks to race at, with more classes. Which part about this sounds bad to you? Our lacal track closed down over a year ago, due to the lack of new people comming in the door. We now have to drive 2 hrs to go to an indoor track that's only open 7-8 month's a year. Thank God they have such a good race program and track that draws people from all over. Adam Drake used to drive 4 hrs every weekend to go to this track for the level of competition it offers. Think it worked for him? More people is a good thing. It makes everthing better! jmho.... Na it's just the truth!
Joe

[JK1]

Railman, you smacked that nail dead center. I live in a fairly large metropolitan area and we have no permanent on road track for 150 miles. More exposure is good for everybody.

[outsider]

This is nothing like napster. For one, Trinity and novak would LOVE IT if they sold MORE stuff. And napster supposedly infringed on the 'rights' of the record companies and artists. If it did or not is not up to us or napster but the government thought it did so THAT's why no more napster.

Also, I don't care what kind of disfunction you have but NO ONE spells that bad. It's not that hard to get out a dictionary or use a spell checker. I know people with ADD, dislexia, ESP, AT&T, PCP and whatever and they take care of their spelling. When 50% of your words that are 4 letters or longer are spelled wrong, no one will take you seriously (unless you 5p34k1ng 'l33t-5p34k')

[ILv2Xlr8]

I'm with jeepinator and railman on this.
The more the merrier!
The hobby needs major exposure in certain markets, especially in the Midwest where there are hardly any tracks at all, let alone hobby shops.
I'm waiting for the day when a company like "tower hobbies" has a series of witty funny commercials during the Indy 500 or Super Bowl.
I want to be able to travel to a decent outdoor track in less than 30 minutes (currently my drive would be over 4 hours). I would like to see it take on the same popularity as full size autoracing has, with many of the local full size tracks also hosting our RC tracks. But then again, I'm just dreaming, and most likely will not live to see it happen.

I'm going to disregard any of this "mainstream" and "rebel" talk, as it is just from a bunch of teenage plebeians that are going through an identity crisis at the moment and need a few years to mature and grow up before they somewhat understand our society.

[tc3mike]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this before me but, here's what I have noticed.

Every once in a while there is a clip of real racers on TV with there rc's. Daytona's Speedweeks should include a mini daytona 500 with the IROC drivers with street spec cars. I think this is just as good exposure as any commercial can be. It also helps that it is free for the manufacturers as well. I also must mention that I agree that our hobby/sport thrives on the incoming hobbiest (a.k.a. 'the newbie'). Having a sudden surge of new hobbiests can be a bad thing. When a once closet pasttime goes mainstream too quickly, the origional consept is lost and a status fad has begun. This can discourage old-timers, and cause those who posses a thourough knowledge of the industry to leave. What we need is a steady flow of newbies. Not too many, but not so few that interest goes stagnant. I think thats about as much prattle for me, I guess I'll shut up now.