19t motor for 1/12 scale

[Prelude14WRX]

I need a 19t motor for my 1/12th scale. Im not sure which one i should get. Im looking at these three:

team orion element

reedy spec

trinity ultra bird

These look the best to me, but the ultra bird seems very expensive compared to the other two. And last question, which would be the best out of the first two.

I will be racing on ozite carpet and i probably need more rpm than torque.

THANKS :cool:

[Prelude14WRX]

anyone?

I think the element is out because of the torque. please help....

[tec_41]

I think the reedy spec has a lot of tourque too...never seen one though

[Prelude14WRX]

i guess the ultra bird it is. Why is it so much more than the others? :confused:

[viper2002]

Th Bird is an epoxy balanced and hand-wound armature design. I've found the quad magnets will net you a few thousand revs but with the simplicity and efficiency of 1/12 scale, anything you put in it will rip. My advice is to get with someone who is big into 1/12 scale and look what he is running.

[Cain]

Hmm, tough call here. I would try the Quad mag from reedy and gear accordingly. Don't be suprised if you shoot the moon on gearing with the Quad Mag, but it should work well.

[Prelude14WRX]

thanks, next time i go to the hobby shop, ill ask this guy that was pretty big into 1/12 scale. He knows the track i race at farely well.

Also, is the reedy on the torquey side? Im looking for sheer rpm-not torque, right?

Thanks again :cool:

[highroller]

It kind of depends what rules the track uses pretaining to the 19 turn class.
If it specifies a fixed endbell, tagged armature, full magnets (no 4 magnet motors) you are pretty much limited to just a Chameleon2 or the old style Reedy 19T Spec( ball bearing, silver can) best route is to get one tuned by Putnam or some other motor tuning company. If there are no rules on magnets go with the Reedy 19Turn Quad motor. If rules use the ARCOR hand wound armature, adjustable endbell motor all types work on oval but the big comm Epics work a little better for onroad or tight oval tracks.

Gearing is the most common factor used regardless of the motors output, the Yokomo (Reedy's) tend to be geared higher than Epic (Trinity) based motors while the TOPS (orion/peak) tend to be geared one to two teeth higher than Yokomos or the same. Only real way of knowing is by getting someone to dyno your motor after you've changed brushes, springs (if you buy a stock one) or it you buy one of the aftermarket motors dyno it to get an idea of the power levels which will give you a rough idea of how to gear it for the track layout. No two motors ever produce the same levels of power.

[Prelude14WRX]

The only rules for 19t is that you have to have 19t, not really any rules.

So, i the motor for me is probably the reedy? It seems good.

[heli_tech]

I used the Chameleon 2 for a while and found it to be pretty descent but was looking for more. I picked up the Element 19T just to try and found that i had to change my roll out from 1.55 to 1.85 inches. I have equal to better top end but now have some torque down low as well. I'm thinking of trying the ultrabird 19t. I wasn't sure if it was quad mag or not. I wanted to try one of the quad mag motors since i had really good luck with them in 1/24 slot cars 12 years ago.

[highroller]

Then go with one of the handwound ARCOR style motors they are more expensive (44-60 dollars) but way better than the machined fixed endbell motors. If 1/12 oval the Ti based or Epic (D5 can, D4 endbell using standup brushes) are both good a couple of the motor manufacturers are using the D5 with P94 style endbells for tight tracks, seems to develop good low end punch and good top end.
Companies who produce these are Putnam Pulpulsion, Kisbey, KS Racing and Fantom Racing. Hot setup for these in oval are the Putnam X brushes with purple springs for big comm motor Trinity 4383 P94 brush. On road would require a lighter spring.

[Cain]

Reedy makes a handwound Quad mag 19T motor. It actually only costs 2 more dollars from tower hobbies. I think some other online places also have it for the same price as the machine wound model. You can also adjust the timing of this motor if you cut the little inner tab, though 24 degrees is really the max I would set the timing at. You may be able to get away with alittle more though with 4 cells.

If you get someone to dyno this motor, if they use a Fantom dyno take it with a grain of salt. The numbers are skewed so motors that make a lot of RPM look better on the dyno than ones that make more torque. gearing is the most important things with these motors.

[Prelude14WRX]

Reedy makes a handwound Quad mag 19T motor. It actually only costs 2 more dollars from tower hobbies. I think some other online places also have it for the same price as the machine wound model. You can also adjust the timing of this motor if you cut the little inner tab, though 24 degrees is really the max I would set the timing at. You may be able to get away with alittle more though with 4 cells.

If you get someone to dyno this motor, if they use a Fantom dyno take it with a grain of salt. The numbers are skewed so motors that make a lot of RPM look better on the dyno than ones that make more torque. gearing is the most important things with these motors.

do u have a link to the hand-wound reedy at tower?