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azizhousecallz
05-26-2006, 08:15 AM
I will go back to the set up board. my tires are good, i will check my camber, caster, again but i don't think i missed anything. that A arm could be off. i may just switch to ver2 for my frnt and rr and go from there if i can't get this to work. good looking out and i think you got me going in hte right direction. will let you know how it turns out. :D
It seems that no matter what i do my steering is always off. I have a JR Digital radio set up, and after a good cleaning and a half hour on the set up board, this TC3 will not go straight, if i change the settings on the radio to try and fix the problem it only works for a minute then it shifts the other way, i just cant get this thing to center and drive a line.
Toe & Camber : I set them both back to stock
shocks & oil : Yellow w/ 60 frnt Red / 40 RR
Ride hite: 5.5 frnt & RR
Tires: HPI R33 Slicks w/med orange inserts
chassis : new 4mm no tweek
both towers are secure to aluminum diffs.
this car has no slop at all.
So who can help me figure this one out? :confused:
I had really similar problems, I was trying to get my set-up perfect and everything straight and it still would not help. When I found out that most of my wheel bearings were shot I quikly ordered a full set off ebay. I just replaced my wheel bearings the other day and the problem comepletly went away. Now it accelerates strait and stays in a perfect line at full speed. So its possible you're problem might be related to the bearings.. just check them out.
azizhousecallz
06-01-2006, 04:47 PM
I had really similar problems, I was trying to get my set-up perfect and everything straight and it still would not help. When I found out that most of my wheel bearings were shot I quikly ordered a full set off ebay. I just replaced my wheel bearings the other day and the problem comepletly went away. Now it accelerates strait and stays in a perfect line at full speed. So its possible you're problem might be related to the bearings.. just check them out.
You might be right i have not checked them i will pull them tonight and see what im working with! thanks!
bebop
06-04-2006, 07:43 PM
whos running one way diff. here. And how was it, would you rather go back to ball diff.?
thinking of getting one.
azizhousecallz
06-05-2006, 12:04 AM
I had really similar problems, I was trying to get my set-up perfect and everything straight and it still would not help. When I found out that most of my wheel bearings were shot I quikly ordered a full set off ebay. I just replaced my wheel bearings the other day and the problem comepletly went away. Now it accelerates strait and stays in a perfect line at full speed. So its possible you're problem might be related to the bearings.. just check them out.
After running my car for an hour the problem finally showed it self. My swing rack all but fell apart, and the lower arms were worn so bad that i needed a new one. It sucks that theres nothing holding the two screws on the bottom of the swing rack together so i went to home depot and pulled out my dremel.
I cut the bottom hump off the two arms used the dremel to make the holes larger and found the perfect locking screw set for my swing rack. this thing will never fall apart or work its way loose, and it's a two part screw that i used lock tight on. Its smoother and faster, i was able to dremel the holes just right so that there was no slop in the arms but just enough were there is no restriction in movement. Now thats a swing rack! The screw set is a two piece deal looks like two big thumb tacks and one is hollowed out and threaded so the other screw will fit right inside of it. and the Hollow screw provided the perfect smooth surface for the swing rack to slide with. And the two big flat heads on both screw's after you lock tight it ack like screw & washer keeping that damn swing rack in place no mater what happens.
waltuo
06-05-2006, 01:23 PM
whos running one way diff. here. And how was it, would you rather go back to ball diff.?
thinking of getting one.
I tried it, but I prefer to run a solid axle.
azizhousecallz
06-13-2006, 11:09 AM
Anyone running the New Fantom 15 1.6hp or the RB Concept X12 ?
Im running the Fantom 15 non pullstart side exhaust. lots of power! burns gas like a Hybrid!
Im waiting on a RB Concept X12 to arrive from an Ebay bid i won. Won this baby for 69.00 bucks with a short TC3 rear exhaust pipe, and a nice pipe for a buggy. Can't wait to rebuild and fire that RB up. I have heard good things about this one.
So what you running! :D
tmaxx101
06-13-2006, 09:45 PM
Hey,
I want to get a nitro tc3 plus. Where's the cheapest place to get one? Also any tire suggestions. I've heard the stock tires don't last long. :D
Thanks,
Chris
markallen
06-13-2006, 10:45 PM
I tried the front oneway with a rear diff and a solid axle.I liked the diff setup better for what I was doing..Parking lot racing..
tmaxx101
06-14-2006, 12:47 PM
One more question, does anyone live in Chapel Hill, Durham, Hillsborough area in North Carolina? I've heard that some people race at University Mall every Sunday. Are there any tracks in the area?
Thanks,
Chris
tmaxx101
06-18-2006, 12:53 PM
The ntc3 radio is a 2 channel right?
azizhousecallz
07-05-2006, 03:40 PM
anyone try to use the Ofna spur/ pinion gears i saw that their higher tooth is 56 could get more speed out of a NTC3? anyone try this, or do you think their two speed tranny will fit the TC3 for higher gearing? :confused:
markallen
07-05-2006, 03:50 PM
A 56 spur would make it slower.I ran an Ofna clutch with 23/29 spurs with the AE 54/48 spurs and it was a missle..
azizhousecallz
07-05-2006, 04:12 PM
A 56 spur would make it slower.I ran an Ofna clutch with 23/29 spurs with the AE 54/48 spurs and it was a missle..
how was the mesh witht he gears? any problems?
evaderstman
07-09-2006, 08:28 PM
Well guys i put my tc3 up for sale. I love the car, and it is one of the best cars i have, but with no support for nitro touring at the local track i just don't see why i should keep it. Anyway take a look at it if your interested in another one. http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=222113
khigerd
07-22-2006, 08:00 PM
Has anyone had any trouble with a FT NTC3 not turning fully to the left? On mine, the bell crank hits the radio tray before reaching full travel of the steering. I have the link as short as it will go. I'm using a Futaba S3004 servo. Am I missing something simple or should I just dremel out the radio tray a little?
bebop
07-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Guys need some help here, what would be a good spur/ pinion combo for a short tight track using OS 12, still a newbie and using the 21/27 pinion and 48/50 spur combo, i do not want to go fast entering the corners, thanks
bebop
07-24-2006, 09:17 PM
Has anyone had any trouble with a FT NTC3 not turning fully to the left? On mine, the bell crank hits the radio tray before reaching full travel of the steering. I have the link as short as it will go. I'm using a Futaba S3004 servo. Am I missing something simple or should I just dremel out the radio tray a little?
try reducing the EPA of your steering on your radio, if your radio has one.
khigerd
07-25-2006, 08:32 AM
try reducing the EPA of your steering on your radio, if your radio has one.
It's not an EPA problem. The car will turn tighter to the right than the left and the limit to the left is because the bell crank hits the radio tray.
brc358
07-25-2006, 07:03 PM
I had the exact problem with my NTC3, and no matter how I adjusted the turnbuckle, set EPA, changed the bushings in the bell crank to bearings, everything I could think of, it still rubbed on the outside edge of the radio plate.
I finally said to hell with it, and used my dremmel and took care of the problem.
You should only need to take a little off of the inside edge,of the right side of the plate.
azizhousecallz
07-27-2006, 12:37 AM
Anyone know if the HPI SUPER size slicks will work on the NTC3 Would really love to put these larger, wider tires to the test with this RB V12 im pushing right now. :D
Hello, I was wondering if somebody could measure or knows how wide the diff is from one ourdrive tip to the out out drive tip? Also what is the diameter of the outdrives? thanks ethan
Speedst3r
07-28-2006, 12:24 AM
What lenght of fuel line are you running from tank to pipe? Does it make a difference?
markallen
07-28-2006, 01:21 PM
What lenght of fuel line are you running from tank to pipe? Does it make a difference?
I always heard if its longer the midrange of the engine will run leaner..
excaliba
07-31-2006, 12:45 PM
quick question? do you guys run foam tires or rubber tires? and whiich is better for parking lot racing that is usually not prepared but is at least swept and sometimes prepared. which do you guys prefer using? foam or tire.
excaliba
07-31-2006, 12:48 PM
I haven't been keeping up with the posts latey but just want to say I still love ntc3's.
Been noticing the latest new nitro kits are all belt drive (r40, mtx4, kyosho rrr). are these cars better than the beloved ntc3?
excaliba
07-31-2006, 12:50 PM
quick question? do you guys run foam tires or rubber tires? and whiich is better for parking lot racing that is usually not prepared but is at least swept and sometimes prepared. which do you guys prefer using? foam or tire.
excaliba
07-31-2006, 01:30 PM
is the ntc3 dead
cheerwhiner
08-08-2006, 10:06 PM
foam tires for nitro sedans are just about always better!!
this car ain't dead
excaliba
08-09-2006, 01:36 PM
thanx for the response
excaliba
08-09-2006, 01:38 PM
glad to here this car aint dead. It's a good design that is very good at what it does. I enjoy blowing by those other more expensive cars on the track
t9dragon
08-09-2006, 01:50 PM
Just got a NTC3 Factory Team kit.
hyperstang
08-10-2006, 12:07 AM
I am thinking about picking me up another one as well...
I sure do miss the on road action for the NTC3..
rezenclowd3
08-10-2006, 12:16 AM
Ya, I miss using my NTC3 also, so Im currently setting it up as a sweet Porsche Drifter. I hate selling my vehicles... as someone in the family will always find a use for it!:-)
Speedst3r
08-11-2006, 12:36 AM
Hey guys I recently got a NTC3. Great car! Couple of questions. What's the temp range in your engines when fully warmed up(racing or bashing) with body on? Also, I've been parking-lot bashing a bit and both pinion and spur gears get chewed up a bit from tiny rocks or just dirt on ground. The mesh is setup properly. Is there anything to cover these up? I don't want to replace these on a regular basis.
rezenclowd3
08-11-2006, 01:09 AM
Depending on the engine, ambient temps and fuel, my engines like to run around 210-230 in the summer time. About the gears getting chewed up, I really dont know about any gear cover, but u might try to make one out of scrap lexan if you cant find one. Mine too get chewed up if I run in the street or parking lots. I usually just broom the area that I intend to drive in. A bit of work yes, but Id rather drive a little longer than stop because of a messed up gear.
Speedst3r
08-11-2006, 06:20 PM
I'll see if I can come up w/ something. I bash in different big open spots so sweeping it's kind of outta question. Guess I have to keep a broom in my trunk...lol :D !
catdaddy
08-13-2006, 05:51 PM
is the ntc3 dead
Not at my house! just got a new one to go with my other 3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/catdaddy6968/PICT0050.jpg
Speedst3r
08-13-2006, 06:02 PM
That looks nice. What engine is that?
markallen
08-13-2006, 06:17 PM
I think it's an OS 18 TZ...
catdaddy
08-13-2006, 06:34 PM
That looks nice. What engine is that?
Mark is correct. it's a TZ .18 and I'm still taking it easy on it, but that thing is very fast running very rich.
Speedst3r
08-14-2006, 01:41 AM
Associated sells a 3-shoe flywheel that I want to upgrade to, but to my knowledge they don't sell a 3-shoe set. Where can I get shoes that work with it?
rezenclowd3
08-14-2006, 01:46 AM
Man, my OS .18 CVR is great for drifting, I dunno how crazy itd be with the TZ. Hmm, maybe peel out at 50mph to break the tires loose for a high speed drift around the local sweeper, only to find theres no more tire left, only smoke once you hit the second turn...
Speedst3r
08-14-2006, 02:45 PM
Associated sells a 3-shoe flywheel that I want to upgrade to, but to my knowledge they don't sell a 3-shoe set. Where can I get shoes that work with it?
Anyone? This thread is so dead?!?
rezenclowd3
08-14-2006, 07:09 PM
Anyone? This thread is so dead?!?
Just to bump your post:-) I really have no clue on the 3 shoe setup though... Call associated. They are very helpful over the phone.
Big D
08-17-2006, 02:30 AM
What up grades do you think would be the best
for drag and drift and shosk set and tuned pipe for ntc3.
markallen
08-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Mark is correct. it's a TZ .18 and I'm still taking it easy on it, but that thing is very fast running very rich.
I was running a OS 18 TZ with an Ofna centax clutch with 23/29 54/48 gears and it was a land missile.I never had to run it hard cause it was fast at 3/4 throttle..Faster than anything I have ever ran in my NTC3.I will be buying another one very soon..
Mark
Speedst3r
08-17-2006, 07:17 PM
Where did u find a 29T pinion gear... :confused: ?
markallen
08-17-2006, 07:19 PM
Where did u find a 29T pinion gear... :confused: ?
Ofna.They are made for the CD3...
bebop
08-20-2006, 10:16 PM
Hello,
Need some quick answer here, I want to get the associated starter box but will this fit any other make of cars 1/10 (mugen mtx-4, hpi pro 4) or off road buggies. Went to there websites that leads to nowhere so I am asking you guys who have this starter box. thanks.
brc358
08-21-2006, 12:23 AM
If you get the Ofan black starter box, you can use it for the NTC3,Ofna CD3,Mugen MTX4,Kyosho RRR.
I have one box, and use it for all these cars.
The NTC3 will sit sideways, the Ofna CD3 will sit reverse of the NTC3, and the Mugen and Kyosho will sit length ways.
I have mine set-up to where the set-up pins on the box clear the other chassis's, and it works great.
I think Duratrax also makes the same style box.
The difference in the boxes are the Associated cars are raised in the rear on their box, and with the Ofna/Duratrax box the starter wheel is recessed into the box, and the top lid is pushed down.
There are actually quite a few manufactures that make this style box, and if you go to Ofnas web-site and look at their boxes, you will see the black 10th scale box.
t9dragon
08-22-2006, 10:50 AM
Try www.ofna.com they have quite a few different starter boxes.
hyperstang
08-28-2006, 01:53 AM
All the talk (when there is talk) about the Nitro TC3, I finally picked one up through a trade. Will come with an OS 12 motor just for bashing, but I want to start the on road thing again....
Can't wait to pick it up from the Post Office..
Race on...
hyperstang
09-04-2006, 10:24 PM
Just got it..looks real good. Came with lots of extra's also. Looking for some servo's and its off to the park I go...
Which OS 18 motor is a drop in for the Nitro TC3. Might want to make this bad boy a rocket....
brc358
09-05-2006, 04:58 PM
I just took out the OS 18TZ turbo from my car because I sold my NTC3.
Talk about a torque monster.
This engine is amazing.
A good high winding 12, or if you want an 18, the OS 18TZ is also a drop in.
If you are interested, just e-mail me.
I will make you a deal on my OS 18 TZ.
My e-mail is brc5550@sbcglobal.net
hyperstang
09-05-2006, 10:19 PM
brc..
you got mail...email..
thanks
azizhousecallz
09-06-2006, 08:00 AM
I simple want to know the correct pinion and spur set up to get the fastest top speed from my NTC3? :D
bebop
09-06-2006, 05:06 PM
Guys,
Its probably been asked but which starter box would also work with the NTC3, the one that associated makes its for the NTC3 and might not work with other cars, truck or buggy. And in the future I will be getting a truck or a buggy or even a belt driven car that I want to use a starter box, and I really do not want to get another starter box just for that. I really prefer one that has a power panel in the front so I can plug in my glo igniter. Thanks
markallen
09-16-2006, 07:57 PM
I have a setup question.I needto run 40 wt oil and red springs.I found out I don't have 40 wt oil.I will also use a #3 piston with the 40 wt.I do have 30 wt and 25 wt oil.Does anyone know what oil,piston and spring combo would be close to the 40 wt,red springs and #3 pistons?
Thanks,
Mark
hyperstang
09-19-2006, 02:36 AM
I can't beleive this...I am getting back into on road racing down here. I need a good 12 engine. Last time I raced, I raced a JP Modified Novarossi engine.
What is a good competitive motor out there now a days???
Thanks
rezenclowd3
09-19-2006, 02:42 AM
Yup, the JP mod Novarossi is still great! Also the OS .12 TZ and the new mugen ninjas are great.
cheerwhiner
09-19-2006, 10:18 PM
gosh its been months since i've raced and i have changed to a version 2 rear end and cleaned every inch of the car so tomorrow its test day before Sunday racing!!
ritchies rc10gt
09-20-2006, 08:03 AM
Associated sells a 3-shoe flywheel that I want to upgrade to, but to my knowledge they don't sell a 3-shoe set. Where can I get shoes that work with it?
didnt see anybody answer your question so here goes.
you gotta buy 2 backs of the clutch shoes and springs and use one shoe and spring from the second pack.
Draikth
09-20-2006, 10:19 PM
hey guys do any of you think that a nitro 4tec would make a good drift car?
cheerwhiner
09-26-2006, 10:30 PM
problems with ntc3 2 speed housing
I never had the 2 speed work that i put in the original rtr, which had a single speed. I have determined it has to be inside the 2 speed hub, because the engine side clutch works fine with the single speed spur gear (yes i have the 2 speed clutchbell with the single speed spur on it right now-- because it works)
Originaly I know I was adjusting the wrong screws trying to get the 2 speed to shift at different points (to shift at all) and during that time i may have damaged the one way bearing. I backed out the screws that held the balls in place instead of the screws that have the springs around them (durr). I replaced the clutch shoes for the housing and it seems to stay on ok, but i'm not entirely sure about those. The manual says to have it tight around that shaft but if it jiggles to tighten it, but not too much where it seperates the clutch shoes!?! I am just about convinced the oneway bearing is the culprit, I can never get a shift out of the car, but it could be the shoes.
I know the engine is tuned just about perfectly and that is not the problem (like I said with the single speed spur it is certainly driveable and smooth, needles right on and perfect temps) but darnit i want my 2 speed!!
I might get the lightweight one way for the 2speed, as it has a oneway in it and should be better anyway. I hate throwing money at a problem without understanding the problem though!
please--advice, discuss, etc thanks guys. Car is fun as can be even in one speed!
RCFUN2
09-26-2006, 11:16 PM
Have adjusted the screws? To me it seems like the trany is alwasy in 2nd gear, you need to tighten the adjusting screws.
cheerwhiner
09-27-2006, 09:48 AM
actually its probably just in 1st gear, accelerates well but then just kinda whines like it needs to shift, so i don't think that is the problem but i'll try it
RCFUN2
09-27-2006, 11:44 PM
Well, then it might be too tight. If I remmeber correctly from when I had my NTC3, the screws had to be adjusted at 4.5 - 5 turns out from where the book tells you to put. Maybe even more. Just keep unscrewing it until you feel it shift.
Also, if it was the one way on the tranny, it wouldnt move, since the oneway is on the first gear hub.
cheerwhiner
09-28-2006, 07:42 PM
ah ok so the book is that off huh? figures!!! darn it! all this time...........!! grrr.
i WILL try this out thanks man!!
durr banging head on desk
sheesh!
Raimond
09-28-2006, 10:03 PM
Hi Guys,
Does any one know the order nr of the cilinderhead screws of the tc 3 nitro, i got an rtr and the number of the kit ends with 40.I am not able to look at the box right now........ so i dont know the whole number.
The instruction manual,sucks in my opinion,ordering parts is a nightmare,because is must search a whole day to finf de ricght numbers in the manual...
the Car is Great!,by the way.
And a another question,Can I use a starterbox,with the Pull start Engine?
The Egine is does leak fuel,at Cab and de Crankshaft,A friend of mine has the ame problem.is this somewhat normal.I got an Savage also,and that Engien does not leak a bit at all
cheerwhiner
09-29-2006, 07:57 AM
no particular order to the screws, all 4 are identical and just don't snug one down, put all four in and then snug all 4 down, one at a time, in a cross pattern.
oh wait you want to know the part number? that is in the engine manual let me look....................
ok the 4 screws that hold the cooling head down are 29017 and that is a set of the 4 screws that hold the cooling head and eight smaller screws too.
a starter box will work with a pullstart engine- i do it everyday! i have the original ready to run ntc3 with the .12 engine and pullstart but use a starterbox with it- my next engine will not be a pullstart. I hardly ever use the pullstart, but i don't want to mod this engine's crankshaft to get rid of it- i'd like to keep it maybe for another car that won't use this starter box! Also afraid of mucking up the engine. Its running great.
Many guys at my track run the RTR but we use starter boxes because we don't have to remove the body to pull that pullstarter and its quicker especially if the car flames out during a race to slap it on the box. Can be pricey at first but like a good charger for your batteries a good starter box will be something you take for granted after a while and well worth the investment! :teacher:
Raimond
09-29-2006, 01:41 PM
Many Thanks!
Ik got a good charger(robitronic overloader ) and 2x 4200 intellect or 2x 2400 to use with the starterbox :D .So that will be ok :D
And thank you for the number,i was searching the internet,and the iunstruction manual,but I could not find it.
And I hate pullstarter,those things are terrible,when the car wont start well,i have pulled so much,that my hands have blisters,
Speedst3r
10-02-2006, 06:52 PM
NTC3 for sale. Check it out!!
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=226642
azizhousecallz
10-05-2006, 12:04 PM
i have used STS engines they are jsut what they say they are. strong power for the buck. I have a 28 in my savage and it can run hot temps up to 300 degrees but i have run 6 gallons in it and it keeps getting stronger. wheelies on command and i smoke my friends with their traxxas, and associated GT monsters. Savage is heavy as hell and i set em everytime off the line and i just walk away from them with this STS 28.
Now STS also has a race 12 3 & 5 port both are great i have the 5 port in my TC3 and its mean. I used the stock pipe first to see what kind of power i would get and it was hard to control. So i used the Ofna 1 pc pipe and now the top and mid are sick changed my gears 21/27 and im doing 55 60mph easy. And the STS 30 5 port monster big block is out. OS 30 better watch the hell out!
X-Tee Ha !
10-11-2006, 05:08 PM
Sorry to barge in here, I've bought a Rear Exhaust NTC3 Team Kit and it comes with the odd looking 180 degree reversed tuned pipe but it's called a "Dual Chamber" pipe and has an extra section (the tip really) welded on. The pipe pics in the literature/on the box etc are different from this pipe but both are part no. 2353. Question is, is this dual chamber pipe a "later" incarnation to cut noise ? I don't want to install an expensive high powered rear exhaust motor only to have it strangled by this pipe design - anyone use this one (pic below) and have screaming results ? Or should I look out for the earlier version.
Thanks
http://www.nitro-shack.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/NTC3_Pipe.jpg
azizhousecallz
10-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Here are some pictures i took this week!
LIST: Aluminum Diff cases (silver)
Onfa Blue 1 pc short pipe
green aluminum wheel hubs
RB Concept V12 5 port turbo
MIP clutch
1200MAH bat pack
yellow & red springs/ adj shocks w/ 40 & 60 w/ oil
4mm race chassic
JR 590 servos frnt & rear
M8 radio w/ JR crystal free recv/ & Novak
Ofna fail safe
supersize airfiler/ w motor saver
Venom fuel filter
and some really cool wheels
WISH LIST: carbon fiber upper deck
Just a little more blue aluminum. LOL!
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3body1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3body2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3body3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3hub.jpg
what do you think so far? This RB Cncept is one sick motor, and w/ the M8 the control is really nice. :D
Speedst3r
10-27-2006, 06:53 PM
That's cool. Check this one out.
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=226642
azizhousecallz
10-27-2006, 10:30 PM
That's cool. Check this one out.
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=226642
thats a nice one. what tires are those Venom? and i think i will get that light w/ flywheel. and that cabon fiber upper deck is hot! :D
Speedst3r
10-27-2006, 10:34 PM
thats a nice one. what tires are those Venom? and i think i will get that light w/ flywheel. and that cabon fiber upper deck is hot! :D
Thanks. Those are Yokomo drift tires on HPI 3mm offset wheels.
azizhousecallz
10-27-2006, 11:13 PM
Thanks. Those are Yokomo drift tires on HPI 3mm offset wheels.
they look beefy as hell, im looking for some good rubber.
bad6as
10-28-2006, 04:56 PM
i just got mine going again, seamed very slow like not shifting, still got up and went but didnt keep going, so i started adjusting the trans and i backed the screws out as far as i could so it would shift sooner but no luck. i got it used so i decided to take it apart and turns out that the guy befor me did the same thing and there where all sorts of marks in side the housing, so a new sure shift clutch and housing is on the way
azizhousecallz
10-29-2006, 07:35 AM
i just got mine going again, seamed very slow like not shifting, still got up and went but didnt keep going, so i started adjusting the trans and i backed the screws out as far as i could so it would shift sooner but no luck. i got it used so i decided to take it apart and turns out that the guy befor me did the same thing and there where all sorts of marks in side the housing, so a new sure shift clutch and housing is on the way
did it look really worn? if not it could just need cleaning, i find that if some fuel may have gotten on it that stops it from shifting somehow. take it apart and clean it really well with some nitro cleaner, and try it again. :teacher:
bad6as
10-29-2006, 08:57 AM
the screw that goes threw the gear in to the housing was stripped out when i went to get it out, and the one screw hole in the housing was reamed out, for the clutch, housing, and some shims it was 27 bucks
azizhousecallz
10-31-2006, 09:19 PM
Im running a RB concept V12 5 port turbo w/ M8 radio. standard diffs frnt & rear keep stripping out. One thing i noticed after i changed them was that at high speed and then tring to break after a few times i could hear this clicking coming from the diff like its stripping again. Is it because the break is to tight? I see my tires are locking up, and the car still wants to go forward from the hi speeds. After a few times the diffs just give out, and strip from the forward motion. Now on my M8 radio i have the break power set at 100%. should this be reduced to allow the tires to roll to a complete stop? :confused:
bad6as
11-01-2006, 05:11 PM
Im running a RB concept V12 5 port turbo w/ M8 radio. standard diffs frnt & rear keep stripping out. One thing i noticed after i changed them was that at high speed and then tring to break after a few times i could hear this clicking coming from the diff like its stripping again. Is it because the break is to tight? I see my tires are locking up, and the car still wants to go forward from the hi speeds. After a few times the diffs just give out, and strip from the forward motion. Now on my M8 radio i have the break power set at 100%. should this be reduced to allow the tires to roll to a complete stop? :confused:
sounds like the wheel you spin on teh brake rod is in to far, and is engaged while your going forward.
and when you mean the diffs are striping out are the gears in side (ring and pinion) teath stripped?
azizhousecallz
11-01-2006, 07:44 PM
sounds like the wheel you spin on teh brake rod is in to far, and is engaged while your going forward.
and when you mean the diffs are striping out are the gears in side (ring and pinion) teath stripped?
yes the teeth inside keep stripping out. :D
bad6as
11-02-2006, 04:39 PM
you must not have set it up right, i dont think 1hp +-.5 would do that
azizhousecallz
11-02-2006, 05:29 PM
you must not have set it up right, i dont think 1hp +-.5 would do that
i will check them but im almost 100% sure that im right on with the set up.
tonyt
11-07-2006, 11:24 PM
Hey Everyone!
I just got a Nitro TC3 for my b-day and was wondering what it would take to turn my TC3 into a drifter....
Any ideas???
Tony T.
rezenclowd3
11-08-2006, 12:34 PM
I turned mine into a drifter because there is no nitro onroad track nearby... Get some ABS tires, or the new HPI drit tires (the hardest compound they make) Then get the full compliment of springs and shock oils and expirement for a couple days. It all depends on the surface. Start learning by using ball diffs in the front and back, then once you progress, drop in a one-way in the front. Get the blade roll bar (name? part number?) The roll bars/ sway bars will help immensly. You dont need to get graphite/ carbon fiber aluminup hop-ups. A little more weight sometimes help keep that rear out. Have fun!
tonyt
11-08-2006, 10:16 PM
I turned mine into a drifter because there is no nitro onroad track nearby... Get some ABS tires, or the new HPI drit tires (the hardest compound they make) Then get the full compliment of springs and shock oils and expirement for a couple days. It all depends on the surface. Start learning by using ball diffs in the front and back, then once you progress, drop in a one-way in the front. Get the blade roll bar (name? part number?) The roll bars/ sway bars will help immensly. You dont need to get graphite/ carbon fiber aluminup hop-ups. A little more weight sometimes help keep that rear out. Have fun!
WOW!!!
Thanks a TON!
Tony T.
PS this car is going to be driven on brand new asphalt and tennis court material (school RC club comming soon!)
tonyt
11-08-2006, 10:19 PM
now that i think about it, the HPI drift box is little more than a gyro for helis...... would one of those help me? (being a drift-noob)
Tony T.
Speedst3r
11-12-2006, 07:06 PM
Ntc3 for sale, price dropped to $350 for complete package!
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=226642
rezenclowd3
11-12-2006, 07:29 PM
Ya, the HPI gyro is little more than a re-badged futaba that costs around $40. THey will help alot and to learn slowly turn down the gain as you get better. I want to pick one up too. I had a ton of heli stuff but sold it. A crash many times means a complete reinvestment. On mine, I think I used 90 weight oil in the rear with sway bars and the purple springs, and red springs up front with 50 weight and no sway bar. I run on new asphalt also. I still have alot of tuning to do though. I used a whole set of hpi drift tires (first gen) to find out the right setup...since Im a newb to drifting with rubber. Its way easier on ABS tires....but I dont like not having all that resistance on the engine. Its too easy to rev too much on ABS.
ntcee3
11-13-2006, 10:12 PM
whats up guys this is my 1st post here i have a ntc3 stock except radio and engine ntc3 mx3 radio novarossi n12 engine
ntcee3
11-13-2006, 10:16 PM
rezenclowd3 sent u pm
ntcee3
11-15-2006, 06:25 PM
what are good foam tires that have good grip and durable strong plastic ive been thru almost a set of tires last 2 times i was at the track practicing
RCFUN2
11-16-2006, 09:09 AM
You're gonna have to stop hitting stuff. What tires are you using? I've never had foam tires rims breack.
ntcee3
11-22-2006, 10:33 AM
im using pmt tires
t9dragon
11-22-2006, 04:35 PM
Here are some pictures i took this week!
LIST: Aluminum Diff cases (silver)
Onfa Blue 1 pc short pipe
green aluminum wheel hubs
RB Concept V12 5 port turbo
MIP clutch
1200MAH bat pack
yellow & red springs/ adj shocks w/ 40 & 60 w/ oil
4mm race chassic
JR 590 servos frnt & rear
M8 radio w/ JR crystal free recv/ & Novak
Ofna fail safe
supersize airfiler/ w motor saver
Venom fuel filter
and some really cool wheels
WISH LIST: carbon fiber upper deck
Just a little more blue aluminum. LOL!
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3body1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/azizhousecallz/ntc3body2.jpg
what do you think so far? This RB Cncept is one sick motor, and w/ the M8 the control is really nice. :D
Seeing those pics makes me want to keep my NIB FT NTC3.
azizhousecallz
12-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Seeing those pics makes me want to keep my NIB FT NTC3.
i have worked on a lot of cars this one seems to give me the lease amount of trouble for the buck, and is the fastest. That RB concept is really a monster. And i hate belts so that cuts out half the touring cars right there! lol! :D
markallen
12-02-2006, 10:09 PM
You might want to recheck the shims on the pinion and diff.I ran an OS 18 TZ and never had any problems with the gears..And trust me the OS is way more powerful than that RB...
azizhousecallz
12-05-2006, 04:08 PM
You might want to recheck the shims on the pinion and diff.I ran an OS 18 TZ and never had any problems with the gears..And trust me the OS is way more powerful than that RB...
thats what they all say until i smoke'em in a headz up! I will put that RB up against any OS 18. lb. for lb. it's faster just ask the three guys with OS 18's that i have sent packing already. :cool: they all have that same look and that same thing they say... i just need to tune it better. well you tune all you want to just because its an 18 don't make it fast. :wave:
masterchief06
12-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Anyone know were I can buy 3 racing products in the USA? all I see is like hong kong..
Integy
Integy and 3Racing make the same things
Mike
markallen
12-06-2006, 04:22 PM
thats what they all say until i smoke'em in a headz up! I will put that RB up against any OS 18. lb. for lb. it's faster just ask the three guys with OS 18's that i have sent packing already. :cool: they all have that same look and that same thing they say... i just need to tune it better. well you tune all you want to just because its an 18 don't make it fast. :wave:
I'm not starting mine is faster than yours thing..You may have a fast RB.But I have owned several RB's .I even had a modified Rody 12 and the OS 18 will flat dog it..Frankly I wouldn't hit a wild pig in the ass with a RB..I would love to put my Wasp Rev 12 beside your RB..If the OS 18 is weaker than the RB why do peeps put em in Revos?You don't see RB 12's in Revos.
Mark
nitrohead5300
12-06-2006, 05:18 PM
Hey Mark when you had that OS .18 TZ in your Nitro Tc-3 did you notice ant torque steer problems?? Do you have any torque steer problems now with your Wasp Rev .12 in there??
rezenclowd3
12-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Of course you dont see .12s in Revos! I got an RB .21 s7 in my Revo! For TCs you usually want more revs, not the low torque of a .18 though.
markallen
12-06-2006, 06:28 PM
Hey Mark when you had that OS .18 TZ in your Nitro Tc-3 did you notice ant torque steer problems?? Do you have any torque steer problems now with your Wasp Rev .12 in there??
Yes I did notice alot of torque steer with the TZ.I don't the Wasp in my NTC3.It's found a new home..Mugen MTX-3...
Of course you don't see .12s in Revos! I got an RB .21 s7 in my Revo! For TCs you usually want more revs, not the low torque of a .18 though..
I bet that Revo is a handfull..According to RCCA the OS 18 TZ is a very high revving engine..It turns just a many rpm's as any .12 will...Only exception the Wasp CRF 12...
rezenclowd3
12-06-2006, 06:47 PM
Ya, the TZ is crazy nuts! You just dont need it for racing a TC though... Well, I havent tried the REVO yet with the S7 in it. Im still waiting for parts to make it a racer. (I wouldnt have gotten the S7 but I found one new for $120) Man, I would love to try the WASP CRF in ANY touring car! Too bad I have to drive to LA to find a decent track... Thats why my NTC3 is just a drifter for now, although its been sitting for a long time...:-( Onroad is my passion, but sometimes you must conform to the local scene, which is offroad here.
Blazinwarrior78
12-06-2006, 11:17 PM
I have a Tc3 with pull start. Let me start by saying that we don't have a local track, and I don't race my car, just drive around, 'bash' the streets with it. I was wanting to know if anybody knew of a electric starter type kit like Traxxas has out, on board cranking motor, and glow plug igniter all assembled ready for the battery pack switch to start it up. I'd like to put something like that on my Tc3 is there such a thing available?
brc358
12-07-2006, 07:15 AM
Asssociated does not offer a start system for the NTC3 as you described.
The NTC3 does not have enough room for the starter motor on this car.
The closest thing you could do is convert your engine<or purchase a non pull start engine> and use a starter box.
I understand what you are trying to do as a couple of vehicles do offer the starter like you want, <Traxxas,Ofna,Savage> but it just will not work on the type sedan you are bashing with.
nitrohead5300
12-07-2006, 09:32 AM
Yeah, Mark I put my OS .18 TZ in my R-40 it is very fast . But with my Nitro tc-3 I have rigged up a single speed with a final gear ratio of 3.0. I might attemp a land speed run with a .21 and this gear ratio. Thank you for you input. From what you told me I have decided to go single speed instead of 2 speed to cut down on the rotational mass on the drivetrain. I believe that the horsepower & torque of the .21 motor will pull the tall gear without any wheel spin or torque steer I hope!! I figure it will be slow on the take off hopefully this will take care of the torque steer problems and build up speed like a locomotive does. :D
azizhousecallz
12-09-2006, 02:36 PM
the tuning make the difference when it comes to racing RB or OS.
The gearing, and the set up (hudy), the right pipe, the servos, radio gear, and most of all the tires.
Once all these factors have been addressed, then maybe you OS 18 could carry my RB's dust, I have had OS's everyone has, there good motors and there cheap! But i love the long life of the RB and its control over the OS. I guess it will come down to what you like and thats fine. :cool: But the RB is a race motor and thats what it does. So don't tell me you won't see one in a Revo or a TMaxx. No one with any real need for speed puts a 12 race motor in these trucks! :D But RB does make a power house for these trucks and im sure you know that, but forgot to mention it. It also comes down to what you can afford, so stick with your OS if thats your price range. :D overall there both great motors with very good reps. so cheers! OS & RB lives forever and so will this sport! :D
markallen
12-09-2006, 06:12 PM
the tuning make the difference when it comes to racing RB or OS.
The gearing, and the set up (hudy), the right pipe, the servos, radio gear, and most of all the tires.
Once all these factors have been addressed, then maybe you OS 18 could carry my RB's dust, I have had OS's everyone has, there good motors and there cheap! But i love the long life of the RB and its control over the OS. I guess it will come down to what you like and thats fine. :cool: But the RB is a race motor and thats what it does. So don't tell me you won't see one in a Revo or a TMaxx. No one with any real need for speed puts a 12 race motor in these trucks! :D But RB does make a power house for these trucks and im sure you know that, but forgot to mention it. It also comes down to what you can afford, so stick with your OS if thats your price range. :D overall there both great motors with very good reps. so cheers! OS & RB lives forever and so will this sport! :D
What gears you running with the RB? Clutch and Spurs?
nitrohead5300
12-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Hey Mark how do you like the TZ in your Mugen?
markallen
12-09-2006, 08:36 PM
Hey Mark how do you like the TZ in your Mugen?
Haven't ran it in the Mugen yet..
nitrohead5300
12-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Mark was it hard to tune your Wasp Rev .12?? Any tips on breakin and tuning for the Wasp Rev .12?
markallen
12-09-2006, 11:12 PM
Mark was it hard to tune your Wasp Rev .12?? Any tips on breakin and tuning for the Wasp Rev .12?
I bought it used so I have no idea about breakin.But tuning it can be tricky..Just make minor adjustments when turning the needles..
nitrohead5300
12-10-2006, 08:32 AM
Thanks
Blazinwarrior78
12-24-2006, 12:01 AM
I have seemed to find a weak link in my steering system. The stock servo arm has busted and now I need to replace it. Are there any aftermarket alternatives on this steering system, can I add a servo saver to the help prevent this from happening again? I also have some slop/play in the bell-crank or "rack" on my car, I tightened up some screws and it improved, I think I have a wore out ball-cup on the rod that connects the servo to the "rack". Anybody else replaced/upgraded these parts on their car?
I finally got my car going after piecing it together over a couple weeks, radio, glow igniter, fuel, ect. now that I got it going, this is the fastest r/c car I've ever owned! Now I just need some ideas for tires/rims to get more traction on concrete/asphalt, at my work, we drive our r/c cars around the parking lot at break and I'm having trouble getting traction. I currently have stock rims with smooth or slick-type tires with inserts, anybody recommend a good set of rim/tire for my type of surfaces?
azizhousecallz
12-26-2006, 08:12 PM
http://www.geocities.com/trentonrc/trcbacksmall.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/trentonrc/trcgrandopeningsmall.jpg
Here we come! :D
Ron Jeremy
01-09-2007, 12:04 AM
I am rebuilding my almost new, original design NTC3. I'm not much of a sedan guy, not much of a nitro guy, and need some help with tire selection.
I'd like to get some pre-mounted rubber tires that love me long time. I do no race. I don't need the crème de' le' crème. I will be taking this turkey to a parking lot and beating the bloody hell out of it around some cones or something. I am looking for durability. Along those lines, mediocre traction might even be some fun, if you get my drift.
What say you? :teacher:
Ron Jeremy
01-09-2007, 12:24 AM
Question #2:
On a scale of 1-10, 1 being dog slow and 10 being the fastest .12 you can buy, how does an OS 12TR rate?
Question #3:
What is the max safe temp for this motor? When I ran it last, about 2 years ago, I don't think I got it up to max performance as I was paranoid about temps. I always had a nice blue trail coming out the side, but it was peppy nonetheless.
markallen
01-09-2007, 05:46 PM
Question #2:
On a scale of 1-10, 1 being dog slow and 10 being the fastest .12 you can buy, how does an OS 12TR rate?
Question #3:
What is the max safe temp for this motor? When I ran it last, about 2 years ago, I don't think I got it up to max performance as I was paranoid about temps. I always had a nice blue trail coming out the side, but it was peppy nonetheless.
The O.S. TR 12?The one that is discontinued?I had one and it was a 5 on a scale from 1-10.Keep it under 250 deg. and you should be fine..
Mark
Ron Jeremy
01-10-2007, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the info, Mark.
Now for some tire recommendations :wave:
Headhunter1928
01-24-2007, 09:55 PM
Hi, I’m new as you all can see and just wanted a few tips on setup for my NTC3 factory team. I have an Os .18tz. I just want to know what springs, shock oil weight, and setting such as camber and toe you guys use as a good base setup. Keep in mind all I really do with my ntc3 is run in lots, I have not started racing yet but I’m looking forward to it the future.
And as Ron Jeremy asked i would also like some recommendation for tires.
R3VoLuTiOn
01-25-2007, 05:22 AM
im running red in front, blue in back. 40wt to 50wt depending on track conditions
so far so good on every parking lot
make sure you set the ride height around 5mm with new foams, camber -1.5 all around
toe 0 front, 2 rear if i remember.
if car understeers slap a sway bar on the rear
lbrown83
03-01-2007, 07:38 PM
has anyone ever heard of takeoff rubber tires the wsa's or wsb's?
spiderwc
03-04-2007, 08:19 PM
ive ran take off tires , i love them. shop stopped carrying them so now i have to mail order them all the time
bladdo
03-10-2007, 05:14 PM
what is the fastest anyone has their ntc3 to
nizmoboy98
03-13-2007, 07:25 PM
i dont how fast mines is but i jsut baught a used one for $130 just car and engine it has a those threaded shocks ,lighter chassis, titanium turnbuckles, and best part a rb .12 3port turbo.. had trouble tuning it . but my fren helped me and the damn thing is a rocket ...also came with the stock manifold and pipe and a after market manifold and pipe dynamite brand dont know wich one though..and a spare engine os .12 cv ..and the stock blue chassis...can u say good deal =-)
journeyman808
03-13-2007, 10:33 PM
i dont how fast mines is but i jsut baught a used one for $130 just car and engine it has a those threaded shocks ,lighter chassis, titanium turnbuckles, and best part a rb .12 3port turbo.. had trouble tuning it . but my fren helped me and the damn thing is a rocket ...also came with the stock manifold and pipe and a after market manifold and pipe dynamite brand dont know wich one though..and a spare engine os .12 cv ..and the stock blue chassis...can u say good deal =-)
shoulda asked for more discount
nizmoboy98
03-14-2007, 04:01 AM
lol i tried that was the lowest the guy would go ... :D
journeyman808
03-14-2007, 04:08 AM
i know this one guy
crashed his ntc3 into this concrete curb full speed
not once but twice
i don't know about that guy
don't think he heard of brakes
nizmoboy98
03-14-2007, 04:09 AM
hahahah hey rolly i think this forum is dead
tonyt
03-19-2007, 08:00 PM
I got the cops to radar gun my TC3.....
Running downhill (HUGE HILL) with the engine running perfectly:
72.583 MPH
GO TEAM ASSOCIATED!!!
Tony T.
Team associated TC3: $500
Engine tuning guide: $30
new pipe, manifold and gear set: $140
Cops with radar gun: $20
Breaking the speed limit with an RC car and almost hitting a small dog: Priceless
RoboRC
03-20-2007, 07:49 PM
Hey all!
I have an NTC3 RTR+.
Two questions:
First question... this is probably a strange one, but here goes. Does anyone know if it would be possible to convert an NTC3 to an electric TC3 and what parts would be required to do so? Has anyone done this or seen it done?
My NTC3 has never even been fully broken in and I am just frustrated with it as I have no one to help me with Nitro. Rather than sell it, I have thought maybe I would convert it to electric. Unless of course it is too expenive and would be too much trouble.
Second question - If I were to sell it, what you all recommend I sell it for ($) considering the thing is brand new and has been driven a total of about 10 feet? I tried getting it broken in following the directions, but was never able to keep it going after the first two tanks of fuel. I eventually got frustrated and quit trying. Still has the box, all accessories, all electronics, etc...
Thanks for your input!
tonyt
03-20-2007, 11:54 PM
Hey all!
I have an NTC3 RTR+.
Two questions:
First question... this is probably a strange one, but here goes. Does anyone know if it would be possible to convert an NTC3 to an electric TC3 and what parts would be required to do so? Has anyone done this or seen it done?
My NTC3 has never even been fully broken in and I am just frustrated with it as I have no one to help me with Nitro. Rather than sell it, I have thought maybe I would convert it to electric. Unless of course it is too expenive and would be too much trouble.
Second question - If I were to sell it, what you all recommend I sell it for ($) considering the thing is brand new and has been driven a total of about 10 feet? I tried getting it broken in following the directions, but was never able to keep it going after the first two tanks of fuel. I eventually got frustrated and quit trying. Still has the box, all accessories, all electronics, etc...
Thanks for your input!
Sorry to hear your having a bad time with nitro....converting is useless as far as I know due to the weight of the chassis. second, I'm AMAZING with RC nitro engines (i can break in any engine and tune the most finnicky engine with ease; so if you want to, i could get it back into running shape)
Tony T.
P.S. sell it for whatever you paid for it, - $100
nizmoboy98
03-23-2007, 09:00 AM
buy nitro tuner magazine it will help u out lol it helped me out alot..or the recent rc caraction is dedicated to helping you tune and trouble shoot some problems..
tonyt
03-26-2007, 11:11 PM
buy nitro tuner magazine it will help u out lol it helped me out alot..or the recent rc caraction is dedicated to helping you tune and trouble shoot some problems..
yea, i just read that article myself....you could also check out http://www.nitrorc.com/ THEY HAVE GOOD ADVICE, AND A SWEET CUSTOM FUEL BLENDER!! I LOVE IT!!! :D
Tony T.
RoboRC
03-27-2007, 12:03 PM
Hi all!
Just wanted to let you know that I have my NTC3 for sale at everyones favorite auction site... item#150106337249. If you know anyone that is interested, please point them in that direction!
Thanks!
tmaxx101
03-27-2007, 09:54 PM
hey quick question. I'm gonna try racing for the first time and was wondering if there are any other necessities for racing besides tires.
Thanks
chris
tonyt
03-27-2007, 10:10 PM
not really....the NTC3 is amazingly fast straight out of the box (or off the work-bench for some of us) the NTC3 has a very fast gear set and as long as your engine can handle it, you shoudl be good to go...although racing tires would help a LOT....
Tony T.
P.S. Nothing that I know of holds a track better than foam tires.
tmaxx101
03-27-2007, 10:44 PM
not really....the NTC3 is amazingly fast straight out of the box (or off the work-bench for some of us) the NTC3 has a very fast gear set and as long as your engine can handle it, you shoudl be good to go...although racing tires would help a LOT....
Tony T.
P.S. Nothing that I know of holds a track better than foam tires.
true, i just got a set of foams i was just wonderin about other stuff.
thanks
tonyt
03-30-2007, 10:49 PM
true, i just got a set of foams i was just wonderin about other stuff.
thanks
another tip for the foams: buzz them first.....lower mass (better acceleration), less likely to chuck (better handeling)....
Tony T.
tmaxx101
03-30-2007, 11:34 PM
another tip for the foams: buzz them first.....lower mass (better acceleration), less likely to chuck (better handeling)....
Tony T.
buzz???
tonyt
04-01-2007, 11:27 PM
cut some foam off the tire using a lathe-like machine.....your LHS probably has one you could use
Tony T.
RoboRC
04-03-2007, 11:12 AM
My NTC3 RTR+ has been re-listed with a lower price and free shipping insurance! Please check it out! This car really needs to go so I can afford to support my electric car! :p
Item# 150108772523
Five9Dak
04-18-2007, 10:25 PM
I have bought FT NTC3 that used to have an OS 12cvx. I sold that motor, and trying to install a trx 2.5R motor in its place. The TRX motor is an IPS crankshaft, so I ordered traxxas' multi-shaft with short and long thread inserts. I plan to use the short insert with the long AE clutch nut that came off the OS motor (it was a short shaft)
Has anyone run this combo, or something similiar. I got into the hobby on traxxas stuff, had the 2.5R sitting around, and think its a great little motor. If this absolutely will not work, it seem the .18tz (?) is the motor of choice?
raman
05-14-2007, 04:20 PM
Hello to all. I used to have a NTC3 a few years ago and recently picked up a new one. In my old car I used to run a novarosi rs12t5? What is a hot engine to run these days? Nova Plus 12-5SCT? Nova 353? Can the car handle it?
Hey everyone, I just ordered this new centax clutch off ebay. Im just wondereing if anyone has any experience with it. The quality looks awsome and its seem to be a very complete package. I have used thier rubber sealed bearings before and I'm really impressed. There is no info on the website about the clutch...it was the picture of it in the NTC3 that got me lol. Any feed back would be great!
BLUE STAR CENTAX CLUTCH (http://cgi.ebay.com/PREORDER-NTC3-CENTAX-Race-Clutch-Set-w-Engine-Mounts_W0QQitemZ300111531081QQihZ020QQcategoryZ440 28QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
J_Kay
07-02-2007, 12:07 PM
What's in your Pit Box?
I just recently purchased my first NTC3+ used from a kid down the street. I'm going to be getting it cleaned up and check everything out to make sure the car is up to snuff so to speak. Once that is done, and I'm comfortable with the stock set up according to the Complete Tuning Guide I downloaded I'm going to test it at the local track and enter some races. What do all of you NTC3 racers out there keep in your pit boxes on race day aside from the obvious things like fuel and such to make sure you make it to the end of the race? Keep in mind that I've never raced before and what I really need to know is when I smack the wall for the first time (not if) what things should I have on hand to make sure I don't have to leave early because I broke it. Thanks for the help.
nizmoboy98
07-02-2007, 10:33 PM
nuckles , shock towers and diff housing .. are the things i broke on mines ..or you canjust buy a complete carbon kit wich is around 60 bucks and youll be set lol..and maybe some extra 2speed spur gears..
J_Kay
07-03-2007, 09:14 AM
I've seen a number of hop ups that will improve the durability of the car for race conditions and for rookie drivers such as myself. Nizmoboy98 just mentioned in the above post that the differential housing on his car broke. What kinds of replacements are available for the front and rear diffs that aren't the stock plastic ones.
I'll probably leave everything on my car stock until it breaks or wears out and then replace it with the good stuff. This hobby looks like it can get expensive real quick.
tonyt
07-09-2007, 10:37 AM
nuckles , shock towers and diff housing .. are the things i broke on mines ..or you canjust buy a complete carbon kit wich is around 60 bucks and youll be set lol..and maybe some extra 2speed spur gears..
yup. that's what I have....BUT KEEP A FEW EXTRA GLOW PLUGS WITH YOU! They're like GOLD...
Tony T.
JoeMaxtec
07-09-2007, 10:39 PM
i've designed a chassis for the NTC3.. thought i would share it with the forum and solicit some feedback.
cheers,
joe
http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/19136/2004744868073497371_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004744868073497371)
http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/22134/2004736862577676563_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004736862577676563)
http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/19136/2004735803918023029_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004735803918023029)
tonyt
07-11-2007, 01:49 PM
i've designed a chassis for the NTC3.. thought i would share it with the forum and solicit some feedback.
cheers,
joe
*drooling* oohh! ahh! (do I dare ask?) Is it for sale? (I.E. HOW MUCH?!)
NICE WORK! Can I have one? lol
Tony T.
Jayweezy
07-13-2007, 02:01 AM
i'm beginning to think the NTC3 is dead as far as racing goes.
tonyt
07-13-2007, 08:37 PM
i'm beginning to think the NTC3 is dead as far as racing goes.
Just being curious, what makes you think that?
Tony T.
rc addict
08-08-2007, 09:25 PM
I'm sorry, but the nitro TC3 is not dead as a racer. The nitro TC3 is still for sale in many places, especially the factory team version. If anything, you can get great deals on a great racer. I got mine new for 100 bucks recently, a factory team with tools and everything needed to assemble it. This car is not "outdated", obsolete, or extinct, it's just that all the newer more expensive cars you see out there are just trying out new ideas and incorporating new parts. It's not making them any "faster" or better to race than another, rather they are just trying different approaches to racing and different setups. It really boils down to a matter of preference. The NTC3 has a TON of after market support and lots of set ups that are tried and true. You can't say that about alot of newer nitro touring cars. Needless to say, the NTC3 can still be a very fast, very competitive car as long as you can drive and set it up well. The pros don't use it anymore because their sponsors and companies pay them to use the newer models or they switch to different companies in search of publicity or just something new. This goes for everyone else: they basically follow the bandwagon and buy newer cars to try something new and have the "leading edge technology" in touring. You will still see a NTC3 here and there winning at a local club or raceway.
excaliba
08-15-2007, 08:58 PM
I still love my ntc3 and it is still very effective. There is just something about still being competitive against newer cars.:)
cheerwhiner
08-26-2007, 12:01 PM
I don't race it anymore, as my entire club has gone to brushless lipo electric........but i ain't selling this car
cheerwhiner
09-02-2007, 09:27 PM
actually i found a group that runs on friday nights in a parking lot, set up a SHORT road course, and its all nitro...............so now I am driving this car a lot
nitrohead5300
09-03-2007, 03:18 AM
Good !!
cheerwhiner
09-04-2007, 08:40 PM
linkages and servo endpoints today in Wrenching the Nitro TC3
8pm Eastern/7 Central
in Cheerwhiner's kitchen table
seriously one thing I do hate about switching radios in nitro is fine tuning this stuff. Have so many radios had to figure out which one to put with it, and its been a while since I've run it. It should be ready for Friday night parking lot runs now.
Diego619
12-08-2007, 07:12 PM
my tires spin really fast when my car idels {if i can get it to idel befor dieing**. and spin when i turn the flywheel. how do i fix this? FTtc3 os18tz
tphss
12-09-2007, 10:33 AM
my tires spin really fast when my car idels {if i can get it to idel befor dieing**. and spin when i turn the flywheel. how do i fix this? FTtc3 os18tz
That sounds like your clutch is always engaged.
Try cutting the clutch shoes or replacing the clutch springs with stiffer springs. Or adjust it to engage later if you have adjustments which doesn't sound like you do.
ragamuffin
12-12-2007, 03:52 PM
That sounds like your clutch is always engaged.
Try cutting the clutch shoes or replacing the clutch springs with stiffer springs. Or adjust it to engage later if you have adjustments which doesn't sound like you do.
Could also just be a simple broken spring.
yappyzk
12-14-2007, 04:30 PM
whats a good pipe for the tc3 ? left side exhaust, i'll be usin it to bash so doesnt matter if its roar legal or now. i want awesome performance! i heard about cvec pipes but that might be kinda outdated, or is it?
i also saw bukupower.com pipes, but those cant fit the tc3
tphss
12-15-2007, 04:16 AM
The factory team pipe is pretty good. Novarossi and Ofna pipes are good as well.
fastharry
04-05-2008, 11:02 AM
hi guys....I'm selling ALOT of my 135 car collection on ebay..including alot of cool nitro tc3 parts......I have a set of nitro tc3 lunsford ti pillow balls up there now..more to come...
EBAY handle.... therealfastharry
SerpentCT4S
04-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Hwy guys! I am getting a used NTC3 from a friend of mine tomorrow. He no longer uses it and is selling it to me as a roller for really cheap.
What motor should I get for it? I will just be driving it on the street with a few friends, no competitive driving.
Also, I want to upgrade to a 2 speed tranny and would also like some carbon fiber parts.
Can someone give me some suggestions on motors and where I can find carbon fiber parts?
WickedDemon
04-08-2008, 01:26 PM
I have the o.s .18cr-vx motor on my car with a rotary carb and I haven't had any complaints. The next motor i'll be getting is the o.s. .18tz. I do recommend the o.s motors.
cheerwhiner
04-13-2008, 09:02 AM
i got my ntc3 out of storage and drove it for a long time the other night at our get together. Man i forgot how much more power it has over all of my electrics.
rampage21
04-24-2008, 01:21 AM
THis thread needs to liven up. I just started racing my NTC3 again. I just realized again how much fun this is..
Bnoland
04-24-2008, 08:07 AM
THis thread needs to liven up. I just started racing my NTC3 again. I just realized again how much fun this is..
I am about to start racing with a NTC3. I have a ETC3 but I am getting rid of it to buy a nitro one. I race the 1/8 kyosho inferno already.
danketchpel
05-18-2008, 07:49 PM
I just recently picked up a NTC3 and am starting to get comfortable with it. I've been trying out different tires on it. So far I've tried
1. HPI X pattern rubber tires
2. HPI foams 40 shore x 26mm front and 35 x 30mm rear
How do the HPI foams compare to Jacos or ???
I also have some HPI drift tires but haven't tried those yet.
Obviously I plan to use the car for a couple different types of driving.
Has anybody tried the Team Blue Star 7075 chassis (http://www.teambluestar.com/ntc3chassis.htm)? Also, how 'bout their shocks (http://www.teambluestar.com/ntc3shocks.htm)?
I've been playing with different gearing. Right now I'm running the 20/52 1st and 24/48 2nd for short course / small areas.
Any comments on the Integy chassis setup kit (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=&FVSEARCH=+++c22305&search=Go)?
rampage21
05-18-2008, 08:34 PM
I just recently picked up a NTC3 and am starting to get comfortable with it. I've been trying out different tires on it. So far I've tried
1. HPI X pattern rubber tires
2. HPI foams 40 shore x 26mm front and 35 x 30mm rear
How do the HPI foams compare to Jacos or ???
I also have some HPI drift tires but haven't tried those yet.
Obviously I plan to use the car for a couple different types of driving.
Has anybody tried the Team Blue Star 7075 chassis (http://www.teambluestar.com/ntc3chassis.htm)? Also, how 'bout their shocks (http://www.teambluestar.com/ntc3shocks.htm)?
I've been playing with different gearing. Right now I'm running the 20/52 1st and 24/48 2nd for short course / small areas.
Any comments on the Integy chassis setup kit (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=&FVSEARCH=+++c22305&search=Go)?
The best rubbers i used were the RP40GL (https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?src=ns&pn=TOCRP40GL), i like them better than all different compounds of the HPI x pattern. For foams, i havent tried anything other than jaco nitro shoes because i havent felt the need for trying anything else.
Now for the integy setup station. I'd say just get the integy setup station 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Setup-Station-2-for-TC-Pro-Carrying-Case-C22347-Board_W0QQitemZ130222998069QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3406 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) for about 15 bucks more it comes with a case to hold it all, a setup board with a built in bubble level to make sure the board is level and its an updated version of that one which is supposed to be more acurate and sensitive to the slightest changes you do while tuning the car for more accurate measuring. It also comes in other colors, but the other colors are all 50 bucks more expensive than the purple. i have one of these myself and i love it. It makes a whole lot of difference compared to eyeballing and relying on the plastic tools that came with the kit. i was wondering why my car wouldnt go straight at all and found out that all the settings were really out dialed eventhough i measured the turnbuckles with calipers. It goes straight and doesnt feel tweaked at all anymore :).
I find the associated "HARD" chassis sufficient and their shocks are too with the VCS2 upgrade (https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?pn=ASC31120) which basically makes it the same shocks that the electric TC5 uses.
danketchpel
05-19-2008, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the feedback.
I agree, this thread needs some life. I suppose that's what happens to a chassis that's been around for a while. I surely don't think it's days are numbered though.
I have the same problem as somebody else mentioned, most of the local racers have all gone electric. While it's easier and probably faster on the dinky local track, I find it boring. I'm too much the gear head to be satisfied sitting around charging batteries.
rampage21
05-19-2008, 11:16 PM
where are you from? and what track to do race at?
danketchpel
05-20-2008, 08:54 PM
where are you from? and what track to do race at?
Oops, sorry about no location in the profile, fixed. I'm near Ventura, southern California. The track I mentioned is in Camarillo at the airport. http://roadrunnersrc.com/
I don't currently race, just bash. I "might" be interested to race if it's a laid back situation. I'm not into serious competition, takes the fun out of it for me.
I would be very interested to just run laps on a nice track someplace.
rampage21
05-21-2008, 02:08 AM
Oops, sorry about no location in the profile, fixed. I'm near Ventura, southern California. The track I mentioned is in Camarillo at the airport. http://roadrunnersrc.com/
I don't currently race, just bash. I "might" be interested to race if it's a laid back situation. I'm not into serious competition, takes the fun out of it for me.
I would be very interested to just run laps on a nice track someplace.
you dont have to be "serious" about racing, just enjoy it, win or lose. Its the participation and experience that makes it fun :D.
catdaddy
05-22-2008, 08:47 AM
My car does not have traction at the rear wheels, does anyone know what could cause this?
rampage21
05-22-2008, 05:48 PM
My car does not have traction at the rear wheels, does anyone know what could cause this?
on power or when breaking? turning? front one way installed?
catdaddy
05-23-2008, 07:09 AM
on power or when breaking? turning? front one way installed?
On power only, no one way and sometimes it spins out when turning. I thought about removing the driveshaft then checking it out. I really think it's the rear diffs (I suck at building them)
rampage21
05-23-2008, 10:13 PM
it can be your tires, it can be your suspension setup. but it can also be how you drive. its just like a real car. It doesnt always stay in control, you have to ease on the throttle and brakes. If you blast on the throttle just suddenly ofcourse it COULD just not have traction right away, just like drag cars. On turns, well your car can only handle so much speed when turning even at the best setup possible. If your good at that then you can always soften the rear springs and shock oil. what type of tires do you use?
catdaddy
05-24-2008, 11:06 AM
what type of tires do you use?
HPI X pattern
jnaarnold
05-25-2008, 09:31 AM
Not sure where to post this.....also, first post here...anyhow, my steering feels loose on my NTC3+... I am slowly buying all the parts to upgrade this to a factory team..I got a steal on this but I am concerned about the steering..it is just not tight and I constantly have to adjust the steering trim..I don't see anything loose, at least not to the naked eye...any suggestions? Thanks
danketchpel
05-26-2008, 02:05 AM
you dont have to be "serious" about racing, just enjoy it, win or lose. Its the participation and experience that makes it fun :D.
I hear ya, that's a good attitude to have. I don't have an issue with the mellow approach, I just want everyone else to have the same attitude.
I got out of Nitro RC boats cuz the guys were I was running got waaay too amped up about stuff, took the fun right out. When I got back into RC recently I've just been driving solo so I don't have to deal other people's attitude problems.
catdaddy
05-26-2008, 11:02 AM
the guys where I was running got waaay too amped up about stuff, took the fun right out.
Same here, some guys think it's an extention of their manhood
rampage21
05-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Not sure where to post this.....also, first post here...anyhow, my steering feels loose on my NTC3+... I am slowly buying all the parts to upgrade this to a factory team..I got a steal on this but I am concerned about the steering..it is just not tight and I constantly have to adjust the steering trim..I don't see anything loose, at least not to the naked eye...any suggestions? Thanks
do you constantly have to change your steering trim to one direction? if not your chassis could be tweaked or your shocks werent built right. you might notice that its not always the same if your chassis is tweaked. THe car may be going right at slow speeds but left at higher speeds. If you recently upgraded to turnbuckles for tuning then they might be out dialed, even if you measure with the supplied associated tools, they're still most likely to be 1-2 degrees off, you can buy the cheap chassis setup like the RPM toe guage and the RPM camber guage or invest in a chassis setup station that will go for about 70 bucks cheapest.
jnaarnold
05-27-2008, 06:40 AM
It's actually in my steering assembly I believe... with the car off the ground, I can turn the steering and it does not always return to center..maybe too tight or too loose. I am looking for the adjustments now
danketchpel
06-03-2008, 01:40 AM
Has anybody done any drifting with these cars?
I recently tried some HPI drift tires/wheels (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMRD4&P=ML) and was having a blast. I did find that I need to dramatically change the chassis setup as it spins out waaaaaay too easily.
DezertRat
06-23-2008, 06:28 PM
I was doing great with my stock TC3 suspension, gripping in the corners and not doing 180's nothing.
Of course I can't be happy with that, so I got a set of threaded team shocks and what a mistake that was. Now I can hardly corner at half the speed I used to with the stock shocks. And to make it worse the car spins 180 around 80% of the corners. I figured the back was too stiff so i softened them up same thing. ( I'm still using the stock springs, Gold rear, and Copper front I think) Then i thought maybe give her some Neg camber still the same. I have pro compound HPI belted slicks, same type i had when i had stock shocks. So the tire shouldn't be the prob, and other guys run the same tire. I do have some thick 60wt oil all round, some guys said to go lighter. Im starting to think I should losen up the rear Diff, but if it was fine with the stock shocks it should be fine now.
But I was really just hoping someone knows a kindof generic starting point as far as shock oil weight, spring color/stiffness, Stiff front, soft rear, or some advice on Suspension tuning.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
BDavis
07-07-2008, 07:45 AM
Not that anyone would be interested since most ppl use the NTC3 with a .12 to .18 max engine. I custom fitted a .21 big block to mine and this is the end result. http://youtube.com/watch?v=FW03UZ41GtU
The car handled fairly well but I had to ditch it since the stock plastic gears in the differentials were breaking alot and even though I did fab a Ofna LD3 ring gear, then the plastic pinion gear started breaking so I fixed the car and sold it roller.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/BrentDavis_ZX14/DSC01202.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/BrentDavis_ZX14/DSC01208.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/BrentDavis_ZX14/DSC00889.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/BrentDavis_ZX14/DSC01284.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/BrentDavis_ZX14/DSC00991-1.jpg
RiotAct
07-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Could you point me in the right direction on how to fab the Ofna LD3 ring gear to the diff and the part number for the gear.I thought I seen it in here how to do it but I cant find the thread now and cant get the search feature to work.Thanks for the help:cool:
BDavis
07-25-2008, 04:04 PM
The LD3 diff housing fits directly to the NTC3 without modifications but then you have to use the complete diff carrier as well from a LD3 since the bearing race is bigger on the LD3 diff case. I also fabbed the use of the LD3 trans shaft as well to use the steel pinion too. It was real easy to do. Just buy the parts and put 'em on.
nitrohead5300
07-28-2008, 05:01 PM
I was wondering can an Associated TC3 front end actually can be over driven like a Serpent 720 can by putting on an Associated oneway diff and using small diameter front wheels??
lbrown83
07-28-2008, 10:34 PM
:teacher::teacher:i run oval tracks here ,i have found that if you put in 50w shock oil,silver springs front and back,run the front diff just a bit tighter in the front than the rear you can drive it on smooth tracks pretty easy.if you can get your hands on some scales try runnin 50% nose weight,,,50% left and 50% cross if not just try setting all the springs at the same place I was doing great with my stock TC3 suspension, gripping in the corners and not doing 180's nothing.
Of course I can't be happy with that, so I got a set of threaded team shocks and what a mistake that was. Now I can hardly corner at half the speed I used to with the stock shocks. And to make it worse the car spins 180 around 80% of the corners. I figured the back was too stiff so i softened them up same thing. ( I'm still using the stock springs, Gold rear, and Copper front I think) Then i thought maybe give her some Neg camber still the same. I have pro compound HPI belted slicks, same type i had when i had stock shocks. So the tire shouldn't be the prob, and other guys run the same tire. I do have some thick 60wt oil all round, some guys said to go lighter. Im starting to think I should losen up the rear Diff, but if it was fine with the stock shocks it should be fine now.
But I was really just hoping someone knows a kindof generic starting point as far as shock oil weight, spring color/stiffness, Stiff front, soft rear, or some advice on Suspension tuning.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
cheerwhiner
08-09-2008, 01:18 AM
well my stock (plus foam tires) RTR NTC3 got all kinds of awe at my Friday night get together that a LHS puts on. People run all kinds of cars/trucks but I was able to put a hurtin' on all of them. I was like "its all just stock but the tires!" It may be getting old but I LOVE THIS CAR no matter what........
....of course a lot of these guys have no racing experience and cars with too much power. If they listen to me they will get better- slow is fast..........
nitrohead5300
09-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Here is a picture of my NitroTC-3 with a big block .28 in it I call it my NitroStein body is kinda ugly but it handles http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo215/nitrolhead5300/truckzilla014.jpg
nitrohead5300
09-10-2008, 07:59 PM
Different anglehttp://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo215/nitrolhead5300/truckzilla017.jpg
GT Freak
05-18-2009, 12:13 AM
just got my 1st ntc3,heres a couple pics:
chassis
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/Trx1/00a.jpg
body
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/Trx1/002.jpg
SuperNitro2010
05-16-2011, 02:06 PM
Hello, are there any TC-3 Nitro owners out there????? :wave:
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