Tamiya TA02 Forum

[Old_School_RC_1]

Another TA project in the works...will be 2wd and has an ABS body. Mix of hummer, S10 and touring parts. Possible interior, not sure.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/GT350/121309005.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/GT350/121309006.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/GT350/121309007.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/GT350/121309008.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/GT350/12282009009.jpg

[Lille Buller]

That looks so hot!
Did you just draw an outline of the tub for that base plate?
If not, would you be willing to give up the measurements for that and the top plate aswell?

[Old_School_RC_1]

The chassis was designed to fit the body, the stock TA long chassis was just a bit too long wheelbase-wise, and the short chassis was way short. It's also based on the electronics and battery I have for this car, so it's pretty specific.

Making a chassis for the TA is very easy, you can indeed basically trace the stock chassis. Mark all the original mount holes and cut it out. Upper deck is a straight measurement of the upper chassis holes. Cut a flat plate, done.

[Lille Buller]

Right then.
I´m a real newb in this game, i´ve had my 02 for almost ten years and it´s been in the box for the last 6 atleast..
100% stock at this point but i would like to change that..!

My bro has a HPI Savage flux, that insano offroader rip it self to shreads all the time, and that runs LiPo, makes me think, can the gears in the 02 handle that?
With brushless engine and that stuff??

[Old_School_RC_1]

They can be run with a mild brushless. Wouldn't go wild though, the weak points on the chassis are the plastic motor mount and the 4wd shaft that runs along the top of the chassis. Both really need to be upgraded before running serious power. Newer cars can handle brushless power much better, the older ones were never designed for it.

[Lille Buller]

Ok, thanks for the info.
A bearing set would be a must too, I´d expect?

Would i be better of with a mild brushless than a hi-spec brush engine of what ever name?

Hmm, what would be considered a mild brushless??
Looking at a 13T 3000kv brushless that seems to be in my prize range, also looking at a 9T 4300kv brushless is that too much?
Theres a 5,5T 6000kv one too, but i´d expect that engine would kill my gears aswell as my gf would kill me if i spend that much mony on this stuff..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Ok, thanks for the info.
A bearing set would be a must too, I´d expect?

Would i be better of with a mild brushless than a hi-spec brush engine of what ever name?

Hmm, what would be considered a mild brushless??
Looking at a 13T 3000kv brushless that seems to be in my prize range, also looking at a 9T 4300kv brushless is that too much?
Theres a 5,5T 6000kv one too, but i´d expect that engine would kill my gears aswell as my gf would kill me if i spend that much mony on this stuff..

yes, bearings are a must for any RC really.

Well, I'd say you'd be better off with brushless in any case if you can swing it- more efficient and less maintainance.

I would not go above a 13T/3000kv...but that's me. I have a mamba 5700 in my TT01 and it's way fast. Remember as well that going faster increases the chance of breaking parts, and some of these parts are getting hard to find. Having said that, if you can track down an aftermarket motor mount and center shaft, you should be able to strap in pretty much anything - my TA crawler holds up so far to a ton of torque, but it has both the center shaft and spur gear (weak spots) eliminated. The front and rear gearboxes themselves are pretty strong.

I know that feeling as well, I get the stuff off the porch before she gets home and hide it. :)

[Lille Buller]

Amen dude..
Do you know if the motor mount of a tt-01 fits?
As far as i can figure out has the same 540 stock engine size and pinion setup but would that fit ine ta-02 housing?
Those are easy to come by as you´d prob know.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Amen dude..
Do you know if the motor mount of a tt-01 fits?
As far as i can figure out has the same 540 stock engine size and pinion setup but would that fit ine ta-02 housing?
Those are easy to come by as you´d prob know.

no, the TA02 chassis has a unique motor mount. upgrades can usually be found on EbAY.

[Lille Buller]

Right then.
Will have a look at that..
Thx m8.

[Lille Buller]

What thickness is your alu sheet for the base plate?
3 or 4mm?

[losiXXXman]

I'm working on an idea, and was looking for some help. Does anyone know if M chassis rims will fit on TA02 steering blocks without interfering? I know it fits on the TA01, but the 01 has a deeper/farther reaching steering block.

Project: Longer front arms on my mini. Using (M) Rear arms, TA02 uprights and steering blocks, I should be able to maintain M chassis track width.

[92gsr]

I just did some test fitting. Yes they fit the red ta02w and the black hummer front knuckles. They do not fit the blue knuckles because the rim hit the kingpins before they are fully tightened. The were all tested with tamiya 6mm clamp type wheel hexes.

[losiXXXman]

Thanks for the test fit GSR. You saved me buying parts taht I would then not need. (Well, I'd probably find a use for them eventually anyway.) Man, I am disappointed that I cannot make a longer front arm on my mini.

I've been thinking about some possible projects for my TA01 as well. What's your thought on these:

TA01 Mini. GOt the arms as I just put new ones on the M03, Will only need dogbones or uni's, and a homemade shortened chassis/ driveshaft.

or

TA01 full old school. Restoration, with a few hop up goodies.

or

TA01 Restomod racer. TL01LA suspension on the TA01.

Thoughts?

[Old_School_RC_1]

What thickness is your alu sheet for the base plate?
3 or 4mm?

2mm upper and lower. 3mm would be overkill on this chassis.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Thanks for the test fit GSR. You saved me buying parts taht I would then not need. (Well, I'd probably find a use for them eventually anyway.) Man, I am disappointed that I cannot make a longer front arm on my mini.


Which mini chassis do you have? TL01 suspension arms work on certain versions, and will give you a 1/10 track width. If you have the version with upright shocks, they bolt right on. If you want to get really crazy, Wild dagger arms bolt on too! :):)

[losiXXXman]

Old School -
I have a M03. Yeah, I am aware of the TL01 arms and wild dagger/ blackfoot extreme arms fitting. I was trying to put longer arms on the Mini and maintain mini track width though. If you are familiar with the difference in TA01 and TA02 front suspension, the TA02 has longer arms, same uprights, shorter steering blocks than the 01. It all adds up to equal track width but better suspension dynamics. I do want to use the dagger/extreme arms on a lengthened M04 to make a buggy one day.

[92gsr]

I think he wants longer suspension arms for a better roll center while keeping the same track.

Long story:
A friend had a cen gx-1 electric and I broke it. While I was looking for replacement parts I noticed the shock towers attached the same way as TA02. I did some more digging and I noticed how the nitro version of the gx-1 looked very similar to the thunder tiger nitro conversion for the ta02. As a matter of fact if I find one on ebay that's what I'm going to build. Anyways after that bit of discovery I was still lost on the suspension arms. That's when I noticed they look just like RS4 arms. So much in fact that those are what I used to repair my buddy's car. In summation the cen gx-1 is made of a unique chassis that uses familiar parts. The next thing was for me test RS4 arms on a ta02 chassis. The rears bolt right up with e-clip style hingepins and the fronts fit with some spacers. I haven't fully built a car with this setup yet so the track is up in the air. its close but I didn't test it with a body. The wheelbase is somewhat adjustable because of the spacers required for the front. I am going to build a car with this setup asap but right now I only have rs4 nitro arms that are for a 200mm chassis. Also the are a few variations on the RS4 suspensions. RS4, Pro, Pro2, Pro3, Pro4, Nitro, Nitro 2, etc.

[Lille Buller]

2mm upper and lower. 3mm would be overkill on this chassis.

Cheers m8.
Think ill have a go at such a project..:cool:

[Lille Buller]

@ GSR:
Wicked discorvery there m8, looking forth to an update.
Maybe were facing a new era of spare x matches between different manufacturers?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Old School -
I have a M03. Yeah, I am aware of the TL01 arms and wild dagger/ blackfoot extreme arms fitting. I was trying to put longer arms on the Mini and maintain mini track width though.

Ah, now i gotcha. Yup, that'll be an experiment. :) I used the TL long arm suspension upgrade on my Celica FF chassis (which is a stretched M04) and the handling was awesome. Same premise, longer arms, shorter smaller hubs - better geometry, same track width. That's for a 1/10 scale car though, wouldn't work on a mini.

That' the cool thing about Tamiyas, so many of the parts mix and match. I pull off suspensions all the time and bolt them on to other stuff just to mess around and see what I can come up with.

[Lille Buller]

I´m going to order a set of bearings for my 02, so lets break out the tape measure to, but is there another way to figure out wich sizes i need?
Besides going thru them all to check?

Does any of you have a list?
Is these the right ones?
http://cgi.ebay.com/RC-TA-02-Ball-Bearing-Set-TA02-Chassis-for-Tamiya_W0QQitemZ270469414692QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ef93bbf24
I just want to make sure those are correct before ordering..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Doing this from memory, bear with me...
Both diffs: 5x11 x4
Rear hubs: 5x11 x4
Counter gear - R gearbox: 5x8 x2
Spur gear: 5x11 x1, 5x8 x1
Shaft gears: 5x11 x2, 5x8 x2
Front counter gear: 5x11 x1, 5x8 x1

Front knuckles: Here's where it gets tricky. There were a few versions of the TA chassis.
If you have the "Blue" knuckles, they have 2 different size bearings needed.
The "Red" knuckles take std. 5x11's. (shown above on my 'stang)

Though since they molded both of them in black also, if you have a black set the best way to tell is to look at what's in there already. Pull out your axle and if they are the same size on both sides of steering knuckle, they are 5x11's.

This list is from the Ebay page, and is accurate if you have the "Blue" Knuckles.

5x11 x4mm - 12pcs
5x8 x2.5mm - 6pcs
6x12 x4mm - 2pcs
10x15 x4mm - 2pcs

If you have the red knuckles, you don't need the last two sizes listed, you'd need 4 5x11's instead. Look for a TA F150 or Hummer bearing kit instead, that model has the "red" knuckles and includes the extra 5x11's.

[Lille Buller]

The thing is that i have a contact so i can buy them by the pcs even cheaper than that listed on thebay..
So just need the sizes.

So as mine have blue knuckles the list would be like that:
5x11 x4mm - 12pcs
5x8 x2.5mm - 6pcs
6x12 x4mm - 2pcs
10x15 x4mm - 2pcs

Thank so very much!

Heres a small album with the old skyline.
The body has seen better days tho.. :/
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt11/LilleBuller/RC%20Cars/

[losiXXXman]

I recently discovered some TA01 suspension peices molded in alternate colors on ebay. Flourescent yellow and green. Anyone know of other colors were available, and or what the part numbers were?

[Old_School_RC_1]

I know of white, orange, green and yellow, special releases in the Japan market I believe. No idea on part numbers, know they ae VERY rare though. Search over on Tamiyaclub, a few of their members have scored some of the parts and may have the parts listed or be able to help out.

[Lille Buller]

Hey Old School.

How do you mount the upper alu chassis plate?
Is the posts not needed anymore?

Have to ask since i dont see them in your pics but havint been able to find other references to support that theory..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Bottom of the front chassis and top of the back with 4 screws and 4 locknuts. Has a slight cant to it if directly mounted, I used a few aluminum spacers where needed to keep the upper and lower chassis parallel. I do plan to add bracing in the middle, just a pair of posts to stiffen it up - should be fine.

Does that help?

[Lille Buller]

Has a slight cant to it if directly mounted.

What does that mean?
I´m not familiar with that term..

Definatly m8, cheers.
In the planning for my chassis i thought i had to replicate the posts to carri the top plate but then i had a look at your pics and just had to ask..
Not having those posts might give me some clearence that i desperetly need..
Trying to re-locate the battery, the steering servo gets in the way, but id like not to rethink the intire steering setup..
Using 7,2V NiCd batts I´m working on placing it mid chassis lenght wise on the base plate, but it can just fit in, if i remove the servo..
My thought now to keep the position and angles of the setup, and simply move the servo to the top plate, making a new thingo, donno the word for it.
The servo is connectet to by a rod..
Make a new one of those only the axis where its screwed to the buttom is made longer to go above the top plate to reach the servo rod..
Does that make any sense what so ever??

[Lille Buller]

Wonder if i could pull off a steering assembly like lwhat this feller is running..
http://radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=258346
Any thoughts?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Cant = angle....basically, if you just bolt the lower and upper chassis on directly to the chassis plates, they are not quite parallel to each other. I used some aluminum spacers to keep everything straight.

Sure, you could use that set-up, and then mount the steering servo either horizontally or vertically. Though with that set-up, you want to have the steering servo as close to center as possible. Otherwise you'll get different steering link lengths which will mess up your geometry somewhat.

On the stang build, I am using 1/4" standoffs to mount the steering bellcranks in the stock location. There's another way though, may come in handy: on my hummer I created a small link mount out of an aluminum plate underneath the front gearbox and attached the bellcranks to that. Worked like a charm. This is probably the best pic I have of it. There's a few tricks to it though - let me know if you want more detail.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/ta013_2sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Hummer/ta009_sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

So its mounted under the top plate?
Having a blonde moment, so i´m confused, :p lol

[Old_School_RC_1]

The upper chassis is mounted to the top of the gearbox, and the steering mount is on the underside using the same holes, and they are sandwiched with 2 long bolts.

This is probably the best pic I have of it. Chassis is upside-down, you can see the upper chassis, and the steering mount mounted on the underside of the gearbox.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Hummer/ta004_sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Right, now it got through :)

Great idea for the hummer, to get some more ground clearence i suppose?

That doessnt really help me with getting room for my battery though.
Been thinking for a couple off mins about moving the assembly in front of the gearbox, flipping sides on the turnbuckles and by that removing the entire assembly from the centre plate and making a new plate for the front to mount it on.
Would need a meaty bumper tho, incase (when..) i crash it..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Won't help with the battery, but it's always nice to have options! :)

that could work, but you are right - it's hanging out there in the breeze. If you're planning a touring car body, not much room out there either. Think mounting the servo vertically if possible on the top plate might be your best bet.

[Lille Buller]

At the moment im running the tamiya loctite skyline R33 body, shame to damage it even more but its the only one i have.
Whould like to get a new one but i need a new a esc more.
The orig tamiya msc is slightly inadquate..

Im pretty sure ill mount it on the topplate, stil working on the final concept tho..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Just broke down and ordered the TA chassis F150 truck, bearings, and a few other odds and ends. Will be a light runner, but my 1:1 truck is the same body style so figured I'd snag one before they go out of production and will fab up a matching paint job to my 1:1. :)

Ah, nothing like the smell of a new Tamiya kit.

[Lille Buller]

I´m not the least bit jealuz.. :P

[Lille Buller]

This is a long shot i guess, but does the universals for a ta05 fit the 02?

[Old_School_RC_1]

I don't think so, but I am not 100% sure. They are a bit longer I think.

[Lille Buller]

Thought so by the looks of those i found..
What about the diff off a TT-01?
http://www.morfars.dk/rc/front-oneway-p-2872.html
?

[92gsr]

TT-01's have a bevel gear on their diffs like 1/8th scale. TA02's have gearboxes. I have swapped diffs between TA01's TA02's and TA03's I am going to dig up TL01 instructions and check those diffs.

[92gsr]

The TL01 diff looks very similar in the instructions. Unfortunately, I only have one and its assembled. You have to split the chassis to get at the gears. Maybe someone else has one sitting around.

[Lille Buller]

Thanks for effort m8, much apreciated :)

[Old_School_RC_1]

Yes, TL01 diffs fit as well, they are the same design. You can use the gear diff, ball diff or one way set-up in the TA01, 02, 03 and TL as well as the M chassis. Found the 1 way up front and ball diff in the rear was a very smooth handling set-up, running it in my TA03R and in my Top Force.

For my Rally Focus, I used the 1 way in reverse in the rear diff to give 4 wheel braking and front wheel drive only. Interesting set-up. Tamiya parts are cool in that you can mix and match.

[Lille Buller]

Cool m8, thanks alot.

[Lille Buller]

New question:
I´m thinking / planning / dreaming of putting this combo into my 02 chassis
http://www.morfars.dk/rc/brushless-system-ezrun-p-4690.html
Will be on a custom chassis plate and purely for fun driving or maybe some parkinglot drift so first of, would this kit be suiteble for that or should i go anotherway?
I´m stil very much in the planning phase chassis-wise, and im thinking of making room for something like this:
http://www.b2bonlineshop.dk/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=1847
But would there be any point in doing so, or would it just look "cool"?

I´d like to know what you guys think, so i dont waste money on show stuff or waste the oppertunity should the missus have a sudden braintumor and tell me to go shopping..

[92gsr]

I can't help you with your motor selection as I only use silver-cans in my touring cars. Take a look at my pics on the previous page to see where my fan is mounted. There is a lot of plastic around the motor. My plan is to buy a generic clip on style heatsink and trim it to fit the chassis and my fan.

[Lille Buller]

Right then :)

You using silver cans, is that due to regulations where you race or simply personal prefrence?

[92gsr]

The first time I went to a TCS race I was amazed by the speed of the silvercan cars. Their laps were comparable to the 27t class. I knew that I had a lot to learn in order to build a silvercan car that fast. Since then I have learned about Mabuchi vs Johnson, 2-slot vs 4-slot, proper break in, seating the bushings, along with gearing, weight reduction, rotational mass, and a lot more.

One of my RC friends used to build and drive touring cars with me in the 90's, another went to that fateful TCS race with me. He didn't have any touring cars and bought his first one right there, a TT-01. Both of those guys were talking about their TT-01's and decided to get together and drive. The oldschool guy was into offroad and brushless drifting at the time and hadn't kept up with our silvercan revolution. He built his car with what he knew from offroad and drifting. His car was built nice with a few mods and a 19T. The other guy had adjustable upper arms, alloy shaft, and a few other items that would keep the car TCS legal and a silvercan. He proceeded to whip on the 19T car on the track and could even outpace him in an open parking lot! The other guy was so shocked he picked up the silvercan car just to verify that it was powered by a plain old 540!

When you limit your horsepower you have to find speed in other areas. I know that some people already know many secrets to speed but you have to start somewhere. Its really easy to buy a hot motor and drop it in and go faster. Its pretty difficult to get that speed from other areas. My TA02 is going to get a revamp for this summer. Universals, hardwire it, fiberglass chassis, and another gearing change. It actually has more straightline speed than my buddy's TT-01 but loses all its advantage in the turns. We mostly build Tamiyas I am running a TB01, TB02SS, TA04SS, TA03F, TA03R, a kyosho spider, and a TA02. My buddy is running a TT-01, TL01, TB02, TA03F, and a kyosho pureten ep alpha.

I included some pics of my cars. I've been collecting RC's since I was a kid so I have a LOT of them.

This is my TB01
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8011/showoff030.jpg

This is an old pic. Thats my TA02 on the left next to a David Jun, my TB01, Xray, TF-2TypeR
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/488/showoff007.jpg

This is us at the track with my TA02 and Spider. My buddy's TT-01 and pureten alpha
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8400/nerdfest4.jpg

My TA04ss
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1998/image065o.jpg

My twin motor TA03F/R
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1214/image063ro.jpg

My TB02ss
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3707/image039eq.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5007/image030no.jpg

Kyosho TF-2typeR, X-ray, TF-3spider, TA03R
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/730/hpim4132.jpg

TF-2TypeR, TF-3spider, X-ray
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4673/hpim4129.jpg

TA02 and TA03R
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4191/hpim4106f.jpg

RC labs 777
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6378/hpim4095.jpg

RClabs 777 and TT-01E
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8055/hpim4087.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7720/hpim4081d.jpg

Group shot
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2425/hpim4073.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Thats some really sweet rides m8!

So is due to the more momentum of the silvercan?
I realize that the motor ain´t all, but what i dont get is how to weight reduce on the rest?

This is a list of planned mods for my 02:
Custom alu chassis
Re arrenged electronics with north-south battery
Full bearing kit
Adjusteble camber front and rear
Adjusteble toe rear (loose plans yet..)
Hardened propshaft
Braces or all new shock mounts in alu
Alu motor mount

The chassis plates will be trimmed down to minimum needed with the electronics pulled to the front for better weight distribution

Not sure yet, but i might do a back bone type of upper plate that braces not only like the usual top plates but all the way from the front to rear shock mount.
Very loose idea yet tho..

What do you guys think?
I will post up my plans later in print so to speak..

[minijosh]

You have too many cars. Send me some please. My 2 car garage is so empty. I miss my huge collection. Time to rebuild.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Nice rides!!

I've sold off nearly all my non-tamiya tourers to focus on Tamiy'a only. Been rebuilding my fleet slowly. None of my TA's are in these pics (except the one in the background as parts) I have several currently set up - 1 TA hummer, 1 mustang under construction, 1 Top Force, 1 F150 truck - coming today, and 2 in parts yet that not sure what I am doing with them.

Rebuild pics of the fleet (TB01 and F103GT not shown):
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/ta003_2sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/ta004_2sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/Picture018.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/Picture019.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/092829007_2sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/092829008_2sm.jpg

I'll have to get some pics of the TA family all together as well.

[92gsr]

Awesome cars man! I see you have a M04. Have you ever noticed that with HPI 2.2 super star wheels and street tires you could take a Parma body and do this:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8263/hpim4454k.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/hpim4454k.jpg/)

Figure out how to stretch the wheelbase and put a tl01 front suspension on it and instant hotrod! I've been tossing around ideas for that chassis for a while now. Not that big into minis so it just sits. I like that ff01 setup with the TA01 chassis too.

[Old_School_RC_1]

NICE!! Love turning cars into completely different creations from what they were intended to be. Got some pics coming of my latest TA - picked up the F150 kit, but built it into something else.

On a side note, have to make a correction: TL01 diffs do not fit into TA01/2 chassis, they are too wide in the gear face area. TA diffs do fit into the TL chassis though.

[Lille Buller]

@ gsr: That looks soo badass dude!
With an oldschool paintjob and ZZ top on the speakers we´re rockin hard man!

Open question:
Does the TT-01 use the same pinions as the TA-02?
Mine are getting kinda old so..

[92gsr]

Yes they do take the same pinions. If you aren't running them yet, the Skyline Speed Tuned Gears are a must have. The stock ratios are great for offroad or rallying but are a little too low for onroad.

Thanks for the comments. Actually that body is going on an old Kyosho Pegasus chassis that I'm working on. I found out about the fitment by accident. I'm probably going to order a McAllister 55 Chevy body for the M04.

[daniedelport]

Guys

I need the instructions for the above hop up. Will this work with a LiPo pack? Preferably the diagrams that came with the part. What else do I need if I buy this?

Help would really be appreaciated.

[Lille Buller]

Im running a bone stock ta 02 chassis.
A loctite skyline R33 kit, gues that would´nt come with those gears as orig? lol.
But if it might, how would i know the difference?

It´s so stock that i´ve only ever run it with the stock MSC on it and a carson 1900mah nicd.
The batt has been so hot, the tape and the tamiya plugs are slightly melted :P
Currently not running as my old Hi-tec radio gear has given in on me..

[Old_School_RC_1]

No idea on the carbon plate, but a pack like on Orion Hard pack lipo is designed to fit wherever a standard battery pack goes, so I assume it fits with no issues. Fits fine in all my stock Tamiya chassis.

Buller, if you're running with the gears that came with the kit, then they are stock for sure - the speed tuned set was sold as a hop up only. May have been included in the special racing sets, but for the regular kits you got the stock gears. Easiest way to be sure is to pull the spur and check...think the stocker is a 72 or 70t (the number should be molded on the side) and the speed tuned set includes a 66t and 69t spur.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Here's a preview of the latest addition. Was a F150 kit, but I wanted the Ford body for another project. I have 3 of these Toureag bodies laying around from previous XC conversions, and I kinda like them - think it'll make a very nice rally car. I used a buggy TA chassis (slightly longer than the F150's) to stretch out the WB and it was a perfect fit. Will be painted with the standard RedBull decals though will maybe spice up the paintwork a bit. Should have it painted this week.

Was nice to work on a TA kit from new, I've bought all of mine used except one - my first S10 kit waaaaaaaay back in the day when they were first released. Been a long time since I bought a new one, and nice to have all the screw holes solid and nothing cracked. :) Built this one with the ball diff in the front and gear diff stuffed with AW grease in the rear. Didn't even have to crack the directions either, lol.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/Picture-026.jpg

[Lille Buller]

That looks goood m8 :D

Lol, did´nt think they would be the speed tuned ones, maybe a slight hope with the name if you get me, but did´nt think so..

[92gsr]

Nice touareg! I've been thinking about picking up that f150 kit myself before they all disappear. This chassis is by far my favorite car. I really wish I got one of those buggies when they were available. I had no idea the Dirt Thrasher looked so cool (for the record I've always liked the 80's spaceship buggy style). I never offroaded the short arm rally/truck versions. How well do they hold up compared to something like a Brat?

I have 2 chassis for my touareg body; a super sabre and a ta01. With the super sabre i stretched the chassis by moving the front gearbox forward and made a new driveshaft. On the ta01 I used standard tb01 rear arms and put spacers inside the 2 piece arms to stretch the rear out the meet the wheelbase. I will take some pics later.

Here's a chart I made long ago with the different wheelbase combinations for the ta chassis.

TA-02 chassis + TA-01 arms Wheelbase =234mm
TA-02 chassis + flipped TA-01 arms Wheelbase =250mm
TA-02 chassis + TA-02 arms Wheelbase =257mm
TA-01 chassis + TA-01 arms Wheelbase =257mm
TA-01 chassis + flipped TA-01 arms Wheelbase =273mm
TA-01 chassis + TA-02 arms Wheelbase =280mm

[Old_School_RC_1]

They hold up very well. I'm still running most of my original S10 kit from the early 90's if that tells you anything. Tires and wheels are long gone, but most of the ABS parts live on in other creations.

I've had several of the buggies - Manta Ray, Dirt Thrasher, and Top Force. Of the three, the TF is the only one I still have assembled. The rest have been commited to parts, though I've kept the bodies of the other 2 so I can swap them out if needed. The TF holds up well to more power as it has a much stronger center drive shaft, and comes from the factory with the carbon chassis set.

Nice chart! Another tip is to use the TL01 rear hubs in the stock arms and spacers to move the WB slighly. It's much narrower than the TA hubs, so you can slide it back and forth on the suspension pin about 10mm or so to tweak the WB to the body. Never thought of using spacers in the 2 piece arms, that's a great idea.

BTW, have a spare losi MRC axle for the original F150 body...plan on a true 2wd solid axle build. Eventually, it's on the list. :)

[92gsr]

Hey Oldschool. Do you have any of the long buggy style shock towers that you'd be willing to sell? I bought one of those $16 Cayenne bodies from ebay and now I'm going to make a poor man's Transsiberia Porsche. I want to use bigger shocks than TC shocks so I wanted to use the bigger shock towers. I'll take some pics of the HUmmer chassis next week or so when the body and other stuff gets here.

This is a pic of my WIP Touareg/Super Sabre. It still needs some finishing and body mounts but its looking pretty good.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5648/hpim4458.jpg

[Old_School_RC_1]

Nice - love the paint scheme!

I may have a few laying around, but I know they are cracked pretty good. They tend to crack where the shock mounts at the top. Don't know that they are worth selling. I'll rummage through my parts, if I have anything i'll shoot you a PM. Too bad you don't need the touring style towers, I have tons of them.

On a side note, if you are using the short touring arms, the longer shocks won't be of much use as the arm cannot move enough to use all the shock travel - especially the front. What you can do is move the upper mount of the touring shocks inboard and you'll get more travel that way. Works great in the rear - just drill some holes, though you'd have to fab up something for the front due to the tower design. I do plan to try to custom make some towers for my TA crawler whenever I get to it.

[92gsr]

Thanks! I wanted to use the longer towers to run bigger shocks, not for increased travel but for more oil volume in the shocks. I figure with limited travel and ground clearance I should at least work with the dampening to help it deal with off road situations.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Making some progress:

Painted the body pretty close to the original scheme, but added some gunmetal along the bottom to break up the blue. Had the wheels sitting in my parts bin, and they go pretty much perfect with the color theme. Didn't put all the decals on, just enough to get the theme going. I thought too many of them looked too.....busy.

Chassis is stock other than dual ball diffs and bearings.

Really like how it is coming along- body fits much better here than on the XC chassis imo. Will make a much better rally runner with better gearing, lighter weight and a lower COG. Just have to finish off a few details and do some trimming on the body.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/picture006-1.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/picture007.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/picture008.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Mee likes!

Looks cool m8, love the wheels.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Finished it off. Got the rear section mounted, and brazed up a set of tailpipes to dress up the back. I swapped out the wheels for a set of chrome ones, I liked the look of the Tamiya's, but the extra offset of the chrome rims helps to fill the wheelwells.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/picture014a.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/picture013.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Well..

My chassis project has been at idle for a while..

But..
I´m buying a lancer evo v body for it..

The question coming with that is:
Whats the best way to make my 02 chassis fit the new body thats a 200mm?

I´m thinking that 6mm offset rims should do the trick, but could thay ruin the hub bearings?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Yup, you'll have to go with 6mm at least. Early Tamiya's are more like 185-188mm wide, they are slightly narrow. So for a 200mm body you'd be looking at either 6mm or even 9mm offset rims from HPI to make up the difference.

Your hubs and bearings should be fine, if they can withstand larger truck tires, the extra offset on road rims will be no problem. It will mess with the steering geometry a bit, but won't ruin anything.

[Lille Buller]

Great, thx m8.

I´ve allways been crazy bout the looks of the evo V so seeing it on sale i just had to have it!

[rickgodoy]

Guys,

Could you please help me?
I´ve changed some things in the rear suspension of my TA02.

I´m using these parts below from YEAH RACING:
- Yeah Racing Universal Steel F/R Swing Shaft for TA01
- Aluminum Rear Knuckle Arm for TA01 and TA02
- Aluminum Rear Lower Arm for TA01

But know the car looks wider and the shaft so short, it is not tight with the joint cup which get into the ball differential.

Can you understand? What do I have to change?

Sorry about my poor english, i´m not a native speaker.

Thanks!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Are the rear arms the same dimentions of the stock ones? Sounds like they are either wider or the "offset" between the rear hub and suspension mount is different.

Compare the new arm to the stock rear lower arms and make sure they are exactly identical.

The C hub itself may have a wider offset as well - take off the wheel and compare to the stock one you took off. Is it wider overall?

If the rear of the car seems wider, then something is different than stock - you just need to find out what it is. Try replacing 1 stock part at a time on one side only, and sooner or later by comparing each side to each other, you'll see which is different.

[Lille Buller]

Well, did´nt get that evo body after all so..

Apparently I placed my order on a holiday so the site wassnt updated and it was allready sold out.. crabs..


Well, back on the horse, i´m thinking of making a shortwheelbase chassis for the mini bodys of the mo somtn chassis like the suzuki swift rally car but are the gear boxes too tall on the 02?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Might be, but the wheels will stick out the side - 1/10 chassis are quite a bit wider than a mini.

[Lille Buller]

Hmm, crabs..

[92gsr]

NIP Tamiya TA02 carbon chassis on eBay for $40 shipped.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamiya-53195-TA02-FF01-Carbon-Fiber-Chassis-Set-NIB-/330440717213?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item4cefcd339d
They have 5 left.

[Lille Buller]

Does any one know of a Dodge ram body that´ll fit over the 02?

Saw an ´04 ram Cummins diesel in diamond black, with 5in stacks and slammed yesterday and go´daaaaaaaimmmm thats cool..

[92gsr]

Parma 1/10 '94 Dodge Ram - Clear Body - #10388
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/9128/ramk.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/ramk.jpg/)
Clear .040 body with "Easy Peel" overspray protective film. Includes vinyl window paint masks and detail decal sheet, instructions and FASKOLOR Paint brochure. 260mm/10.25" Wheelbase and 178mm/7" Wide - Fits all 1/10 scale trucks.

This is as close as you're going to get. TA02's are 257mm.

[TitaniumXRC]

Wow I like this thread.

TA02
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6761/balboabeach006.png (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/balboabeach006.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

TA02
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7884/kore005c.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/kore005c.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

TL01
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3622/beach013aaa.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/beach013aaa.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

TL01
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6976/toyota003.png (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/toyota003.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

TA02
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8459/s10023.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/s10023.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8976/collectione.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/collectione.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
OK the last one is a NIKKO Evolution Dodge Viper converted into a Ford Black Foot truck

[Old_School_RC_1]

Very nice collection!

[Lille Buller]

Parma 1/10 '94 Dodge Ram - Clear Body - #10388
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/9128/ramk.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/ramk.jpg/)
Clear .040 body with "Easy Peel" overspray protective film. Includes vinyl window paint masks and detail decal sheet, instructions and FASKOLOR Paint brochure. 260mm/10.25" Wheelbase and 178mm/7" Wide - Fits all 1/10 scale trucks.

This is as close as you're going to get. TA02's are 257mm.

Hooooly Sheite mann!

Theres actually one listed on the bay..

I hope it´s still there when my next paycheck comes in..

[TitaniumXRC]

Very nice collection!

Thanks, been working on them for a few years. I have a Dodge truck in there, but some of the other bodies I used we're Nas trucks because they we're a little wider. Y? because you can use the TAo1 car front arms with the longer front dog bones, and make it wider for stability. I have even used the TA01 car rear arms to push the wheel bast longer. The Toyota is from McAllister, and the Lucas Chevy has a TL01 chassis.

I make the titanium brush guards for all my trucks, but if I get enough people interested, I'll blue print them, send the print + metal to the water jet guys. Then I will sell them on eBay. ( There will be a discount to the forms people)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4692/49013775.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/49013775.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6568/jim024.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/jim024.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3752/blr.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/blr.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

I also have a few of the Bolink Robby Gorden Ford trophy truck bodies left.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1092/myspace002y.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/myspace002y.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6236/myspace004.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/myspace004.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2074/1rgt007.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/1rgt007.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/736/1rgt005.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/1rgt005.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9639/trcz.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/trcz.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[92gsr]

Hey Buller I just found this on the bay http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-7050-Dodge-Ram-Street-Truck-Clear-Body-/350369452840?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5193a59328

Old HPI dodge ram body

[Lille Buller]

Whoa!

Thats halla cool!

Nice find :P

[Lille Buller]

Just bought a new tamiya esc TEU-302BK probs paid overprize tho..
And a new 2900mamp carson batt.

That esc can handle 8,4v 7cell nimh but the 2 ive got is 7,2v
Can i put in an additional cell with a swith on my 3rd. chn?
Like a boost or nitro botten?
Could the stock sivercan handle that?
Any ideas?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Well, the motor could. Best way to go to 8.4v is to pick up a 7 cell battery.

....I know of no easy way to adjust battery voltage on the fly. That would be something custom indeed.

[Lille Buller]

My thought was something like the swithes for light systems.
Those that you can turn on and off on the 3rd radio channel.
If that swiths controlled a small relay to open the power of the extra batt cell, it would act as a boost bypassing the esc.
Actually that could be hooked up to another fullsize batt.pack but my thought is that it would send that power back into the esc and potentially frie it..
Witch ofcourse would be intirely uncool :P

How much juice could the silvercan hold up to?
educated guess accepted ;)

[Lille Buller]

This would have no practical use i guess..
But the nerd factor of the project has to be considered :D

[Old_School_RC_1]

I've put 11.1v through a silvercan on my crawlers. Seems no worse for the wear, but imagine it won't last too long at that voltage running at constant higher RPM's. With a crawler, I'm mostly using part throttle. Don't know though for sure - in 20 years, I've never blown up a silver can motor. :)

That would certainly be an interesting project. I cannot think of a practical application, but understand completely the "nerd" factor. I am dreaming of a 1/6 truck with a 4 speed manual...debating on how to make it happen.

[Lille Buller]

The praktical application would be comming along at full blast hitting the botton and listen to the engine going to that slightly higher pitc..

Nope still not practical.. :P

I´d like to test that thing with 11.1v at full blast.
Just to see if it holds up.
Would have to buy a new batt tho, and esc...
Sucks..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Long live the TA02 thread! This is my entry for a drift buildoff. LOVE Porsche 959's and was fortunate enough to snag a 1/10 Nikko in nearly mint condition.

Body is an odd size, WB is 8.5" and it's 7" wide, so it's short and stubby. Perfectly Porsche.

Building on a Hybrid TA chassis of some sort, dumped out some parts on the workbench and started to mock up. Chassis has to be custom as the body is so short. Also, gonna be some power in this one....lots of gearboxes here. Should have no issues with getting the tires spinning. :D Will update as I go.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07142010-002.jpg

[TitaniumXRC]

Nice,I like the body paint scheme. I have a chassis and all the parts to build one with you, I'm just having a hard time finding time.

[Lille Buller]

You should use a non ta rear end, of some buggy with the motor behind the axle..
True porsche..

Nice body tho!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Paint scheme is going to be silver or white, not sure yet. All those Nikko decals have to go!

There will be a motor behind the axle..... :) there may even be one in front as well. Note the FF01 parts mixed in there.

[Lille Buller]

I´ll just get on my knees and eat you dust..

Didnt spot that till you said so..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Well, Plan A was a complete fail, so moving on to plan B.

Plan A involved an FF01 and TA02 gearbox. Figured the dual motors would let me experiment with different gear ratios f/r, and let me overdrive the rear a bit. Turns out the FF01 gearbox will not fit under the sloped hood of the Porsche. Not even close. Rear gearbox would have been mounted backwards to put the motor behind the wheels and open up more chassis space.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010001sm.jpg

not gonna happen... :(
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010002sm.jpg

...so Plan B.0 is to use standard TA running gear and more a more conventional layout with a super short chassis. Even still with the TA front, the front shocks are a very tight fit under the hood: might need a plan B.1 to get the front to sit right. Laydown maybe? In any case, started building up the gearboxes. So far running a 1 way front, locked rear diff and speed tuned gearset.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010003sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Not much room for the steering bits eighter with the ff reversed setup..


Heres some inspiration for the paint sceme.
http://www.gjoengerally.dk/media/1624/per%20g%20hansen%20.jpg

[Lille Buller]

And a bit more..
http://www.blog.noroi.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Porsche-959-Rally-1986-Paris-Dakar-Rally-1024x768.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Just found the skylane speed tuned gear set #53127.
Finaly...

What pinion should i run on that?
Still parkinglot bash and drift.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Thanks Claes. I like the Rothmans scheme, it's pretty much the only racing livery on a 959. There are just not many that are modified. Not sure if going with something like that or a single color street car. Got to get the chassis built first, lol!

Hmm..not sure. Really, what the speed tuned gears allow for is more gearing options on the tall side. There's a chart that comes with it (I'm digging around for mine) that shows the different ratios with different pinions. Check out the chart and that will give you some ideas. Believe with the stock pinion, it's a decent jump in gearing just by swapping the spurs. Start with that and go from there.

[losiXXXman]

Hey old school. Cool project idea, but I think you will find it won't need a ton of power. On TC people have built 208mm wheelbase TA01/2s and put mini cooper (M03/04) suspensions on them. The consensus is they are fast and handle well, even without a tall motor or speed tuned gears. I actually was goingto do one/may still, but i sectioned a standard TA01 chassis and found it was going to be tough to get a battery in. (I want to run saddle packs instead of the side-to-side stick style for more centered weight balance) Good luck with the project, keep the photos coming.

[Lille Buller]

I really dont like the 959 in street appearence.
It looks heavy and missplaced imo..

How about somtn classic like jeagermeister?
http://www.google.dk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.raesl.com/C175-Porsche959.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mallorcaslot.com/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D75&usg=__QoQNEmC5QRVK6a7AsWgwTR-GOmg=&h=362&w=582&sz=47&hl=da&start=417&itbs=1&tbnid=j-hyXiEjQpKfBM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dporsche%2B959%26start%3D399%26hl%3Dda %26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1
Inspiration..

[Old_School_RC_1]

Yup, won't have a lot of power, though it will be a bit porky with all the aluminum. Stock motor and gearing is all that's planned for now.

Making some progress, finally starting to look like something. Gearboxes are done, and chassis is cut.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010002001.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010003001.jpg

mocked up stance.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07182010004001.jpg

[Lille Buller]

That does look good m8 :p

[Lille Buller]

Just found the skylane speed tuned gear set #53127.
Finaly...

What pinion should i run on that?
Still parkinglot bash and drift.

That is the corrct parts# right??
53 127..?

[Old_School_RC_1]

yup, that's it. It's basically 2 spur gears. One 70t and one 66t.

[Lille Buller]

Yer, i knew that m8, but couldnt find any to stick the number and the bits together to verify it.
Thanks m8.

[Lille Buller]

I might be a little tight about the finances..

But :eek: Thats alotta money!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Tamiya-TA02-FRP-Chassis-Race-Car-53166-RARE-WOW-/200488854061?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item2eae11222d

[92gsr]

I might be a little tight about the finances..

But :eek: Thats alotta money!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Tamiya-TA02-FRP-Chassis-Race-Car-53166-RARE-WOW-/200488854061?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item2eae11222d

I don't usually comment on the value people place on their cars but that is RIDICULOUS! The car is used, the left side battery holder is nowhere to be found (which is impossible to buy new), and there is nare notta upgrade on there besides the chassis, shaft and the tuned springs. The white arms are no upgrade just the same stock parts in white. It is worth at the most $100. Actually I bought my FRP chassis car for $100 and it was 20 times better than that one and it came with a nearly perfect Clarion Nismo body and wheels!

Old School: Remember when I was checking the suspension interchange? Well I have discovered TA04 front arms fit without a problem. Since the first gen ta05 had ta04 arms then the IFS arms should be able to retrofit all the way back to the ta02! I have no clue about the rest of the IFS system but I'm sure you could figure that part out.

[92gsr]

Oh yeah If you're looking for awesome vintage Porsche livery google the 935's of the 70's and 80's. the Sachs car is my personal fave. I know its no 959 but considering they both evolved from the original 911 the graphics should work.

[TitaniumXRC]

Hey Old School RC, You wouldn't want to let me borrow that chassis?? Would you? I have some 7075-T765 heat treated aluminum I'm dieing to make something out of it.

[92gsr]

I think this information should really be here since phyical copies are growing scarce.

Spur/Pinion/Ratio/Mount Hole

74T/16T/11.27/16
74T/17T/10.61/17
74T/18T/10.02/18
74T/19T/9.49/19
74T/20T/9.02/20
74T/21T/8.59/21

69T/21T/8.01/16
69T/22T/7.64/17
69T/23T/7.31/18
69T/24T/7.01/19
69T/25T/6.73/20

66T/24T/6.70/16
66T/25T/6.44/17

Internal Ratio: 2.4367568

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1287/ta02mount.png (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/ta02mount.png/)

I have tried to use a pinion bigger than 25T. I think it was a 27T. It didn't fit. You WILL need to dremel the inside of your gearbox to get it to fit. I did not try the 26T. Bed now.

[Old_School_RC_1]

holy overpriced car! no thanks, lol.

Titanium, I'm on a deadline for getting this car done, so I need to keep cracking on it. Making a custom TA chassis is the easiest thing in the world though, would a write up help? Lord knows I've made enough. The toughest part is making a custom driveshaft to the right length, I've tried a few ways, some successful, some not so much.

92gsr - thanks for the info! I've been looking high and low for my reference sheet, it's here somewhere. I've saved your post for future reference. :)

[Old_School_RC_1]

Well I have discovered TA04 front arms fit without a problem. Since the first gen ta05 had ta04 arms then the IFS arms should be able to retrofit all the way back to the ta02! I have no clue about the rest of the IFS system but I'm sure you could figure that part out.

Thanks for the info here too! OG TA arms are getting hard to find.

[Lille Buller]

Thanks for the upload gsr :D

Have you guys seen this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGqkX1UhKbs&feature=related
Damn it cool!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Driveshaft made...that was a project all in itself. Brake tubing with a dogbone cut in half and press fit in (and JBWelded)

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/07202010.jpg

on to the upper chassis and body mounts!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Thanks for the upload gsr :D

Have you guys seen this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGqkX1UhKbs&feature=related
Damn it cool!

NICE!!!! Love the slow mo

[Lille Buller]

Cool idea on the prop shaft.

Yer, stumpled upon that vid and was lost for word for a minute..

I´m amazed how "real" the car moves, body roll and all that looks so much like a real car..

[Lille Buller]

Does the 02 fit universals with some other chassis?
Bone stock 02 with blue hubs.

Not that my dog bones are worn out, just for future refference it could be good to know..

[92gsr]

The translation is rough but the information is there. This blog from japan shows you how to adapts ta04ss arms to the ta02. This guide can be used to mod the ta02 to take ta04/tb02/ta05 suspension arms. They also show you how to counter some of the built in caster in the chassis.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhetarehobby.kasajizo.com%2Frc_ta02_ k.html&sl=ja&tl=en

This is a pic of the gearbox mod he mentioned to fit the 29Tpinion:

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8183/ta022.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/ta022.jpg/)

[Old_School_RC_1]

I don't know about the universals, there are several different sizes available, and several different variations of TA chassis. They are out there, but I've never messed with them.

None of the pics came up for me on that link. That is a cool motor mount mod. Don't know if i like how the gears are open, but looks nice and solid. Was looking at suspension arms the other day, and with a few spacers, the TL/TB etc arms would fit no problem. I'll be swapping the Porsche over to a TL01 rear hub as i need to adjust the WB slightly.

Made a front body mount last night. Figuring out the rear on.....may be making a cage for the upper chassis and ... well just for looks really. :)

[92gsr]

Here's the link in Japanese http://hetarehobby.kasajizo.com/rc_ta02_k.html

[Lille Buller]

Now the pics work too :D
Cool.

On the unies, i was just curious.
Was looking at a spares katakog and found the for the later models TA and just wondered..

[92gsr]

Bored at work. TA02f yes f. http://z3.invisionfree.com/rcdrift/index.php?showtopic=17260

[Lille Buller]

I´m not permitted to view the topic..

[92gsr]

You have to sign in to see. try this one:

http://www.drccentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19539&mode=threaded

[Lille Buller]

Now thats cool...

Wonder how it handles..
Id loose the top propshaft and go twin motor..
Bl and lipo..
And call it project sidewinder..

[92gsr]

I noticed I had a ta02 and a ta04r on my workbench. I decided to swap front suspensions to see how it would work. First I had to shave some of the webbing on the arm like they said in the Japanese blog. After that the arm slid right on. Next issue I noticed was that the ta04 arms will extend the wheelbase. I think if you flip them they won't change the wheelbase but you lose one set of shock mounts. Another issue is you will need to add spacers to take up the extra space on the hinge pin. After that things look good. The stock ta02 steering rod is close enough, so is the ta04 upper arm. The ta04r 39mm universals fit but I think I would prefer them to be 1mm longer. The caster is pretty severe but if you fit +caster c-hubs swapped left to right you can counter some of the built in caster. They show you how in the Japanese post. When I do this car I'll take pics. So its pretty easy to update the front suspension of the ta02. I think the rear will be pretty difficult to do with Tamiya parts. I have the CEN arms but they feel kinda brittle. I still think HPI arms may work but I want to keep it all Tamiya so I might leave it stock and only upgrade the front.


If you want to learn more about why this change is useful, take some time to read this link (http://67.199.85.166/resources/marc/car_handling.html) from the Team Associated website and this blog right here (http://acceleratingperformance.blogspot.com/). Actually everyone can benefit from reading those two links. OK time for sleep.

Here's the pics:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3592/hpim4532.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/hpim4532.jpg/)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9864/hpim4533.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/hpim4533.jpg/)
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4784/hpim4535l.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/hpim4535l.jpg/)
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4748/hpim4538.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/hpim4538.jpg/)

[Old_School_RC_1]

Nice mod, sure does change the suspension geometry for the better!

[losiXXXman]

It almost looks like it got wider, but that may be an illlusion. Is it still 190mm?

[92gsr]

Yeah sorry about that. I shot the pics from a slight angle. The width didn't appear to change but I had different offset wheels left to right. Also my ta02 has the wider 02W set up on the front so that throws things off a bit as well. All i can say for certain is it still fit under a standard Tamiya body so the change in track is minimal. When my C-hub and knuckles arrive I will post more. I have since put my TA04R back together.

[losiXXXman]

That's Pretty trick.. I have wondered about running the TL01 LA setup on my TA01 for awhile. I still don't know what I;m going to do with that car. As for now Im hacking out a chassis with a 225mm mini wheelbase. and have thrown on an extra set of Mini arms. Just need dogbones to get her rolling. If I don't like that, I'm going to get a topforce chassis, black gearboxes, and some of the yellow or flourescent green stock TA01 arms...

[Old_School_RC_1]

Making a little more progress. Chassis is pretty much built, just need the valences front and rear. Then, tearing it all back down and painting it all black.

New upper deck in place
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08012010001.jpg

New front shock tower brace/body mount. Note the 22t 550 truck motor stuffed in there. Should be plenty of torque to get the wheels spinning.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08012010002.jpg

New rear body mount/shock tower brace. A bit of an odd size due to the body.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08012010003.jpg

Stripped the stickers off the body, looks much better!! Not sold on the wheels, think I can find something better.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08012010004.jpg

[92gsr]

Looks great!

For the wheels check out

Tamiya 50750
Tamiya 51072

Or

Tamiya 50672/3

[Lille Buller]

My god!
That engine is huge in there!! :P

Looks good m8, the body mounts are cool imo..
I still think it looks heavy in a solid color with no decor..


These rims would be cool, prop too wide tho..
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9526/ta02f2.jpg
Liftet off the tao2f link grs posted, dunno make or model..

[92gsr]

Those are Tamiya 50548/9

[ShinHed]

Keep up the great work guys. I love custom and/or highly modded builds.

BTW Old_School, still have the Nikko's original body mounts?

[Old_School_RC_1]

Good stuff on the wheels guys...only thing that fits under the body are 1.9's with 0 offset, so choices are somewhat limited. Think those are too "blingy" even for a drift car. I'll wait till I get it painted and then get the wheels sorted out.

Thanks Shinhed, we do our best to keep the TA forum alive! :) I do have the original body mounts - not used on the TA chassis in any way though. Body will be mounted with Velcro and the original mount holes filled and sanded.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Messing with rims...liking the black! May or may not stay, who knows. Swapped the broken blue steering knuckles with a set of black ones I found and put some brake disks on....looks mean! Have since tore the body apart and started some styrene work.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08022010001sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08022010002sm.jpg

[ShinHed]

Looks sinister. I too bought new wheels for that body, but since I'm using the original Nikko chassis, I bought some +4 offset wheels to fill it out.

[Lille Buller]

I have to admitt, that looks really wicked!

[92gsr]

old school- every time you post pics, I work on my ta02. Its truly inspiring to see someone turn out such great work.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words!

[92gsr]

Sneak peek at my 02. Still waiting for the ta04 parts to arrive. It will be completed soon...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2719/hpim4555z.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/hpim4555z.jpg/)

[Old_School_RC_1]

sharp looking... :)

[Lille Buller]

Niccccce!

[superspeed]

had a customer came in the store today with a broken motor mount on a ta02, looked up the part on tamiyausa site and it's discontinued. bummer, that plastic motor mount was a weakest link.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Shouldn't be, the chassis is still in production. If it's a red chassis, those parts are out of production certainly, but the black ones are still made as far as I know. The Repsol Mitsubishi is the the only one using the chassis anymore, and Tamiya has renamed it the DF-01. The parts search on the TamiyaUSA site is very wonky, sometimes it's easier to just call. Can be found on Ebay also.

[ShinHed]

^Thanks for the Nikko parts, Old School.

I noticed I had a ta02 and a ta04r on my workbench. I decided to swap front suspensions to see how it would work. First I had to shave some of the webbing on the arm like they said in the Japanese blog. After that the arm slid right on....http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4748/hpim4538.jpg[/URL]
Loving what going on in this thread, but thought I'd add that TB EVO/TB01 Long Arm kit arms look like they'd serve you application a liitle better, because you wouldn't havie to worry about trimming webbing. Also, with the Evo arms, you can still use TA04 uprights and knuckles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/DSCN2717.jpg

Ta04 uprights...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/DSCN2721.jpg

Edit:
Ta01/ DF01 chassis with Evo arms seem to require more shim spacers, but would still work. I guess either is fine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/DSCN2725.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/DSCN2724.jpg

[Old_School_RC_1]

Looks like it would be easier on the WB and shock mounts also just due to the shape of the arms.

I forgot the LA kit for the TL fits on the TB chassis also.....hmm...I have it on my Wild Willy at the moment, may have to experiment a bit.

[Lille Buller]

Woo hoo! :D
FINALY got my ballbearing kit and got it installed.
Now the old girl sounds soooo much more healthy when she takes some revs.
Now, if only i could afford some tires for it..

Well..
Gotte be next mounth..

[Old_School_RC_1]

One thing at a time! :) (just like the 1:1's....lol)

[Lille Buller]

Year, good point m8..

Just so anoying that i cant get out and try out the improvement.

Well, we´re on the 5th day straight with rain so..

[Lille Buller]

Really bored today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPQppK7E-0&feature=related
Look at those tires raise when it sets of..!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Little more done, sanded off the mold lines, and filled in the original body mount holes. Looking nasty, but always looks worse before it gets better. :) just about ready for primer.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/08222010002.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Looks like a propper drifter, all banged up!

[losiXXXman]

where'd you get the tenth scale jack stands??!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Ebay....there are some larger ones in the RC section that the scaler guys use, found these in the toys and minatures section. Little smaller and work well on sedans.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Couple of updates on a few TA based projects:

Paint is on!! Pewter Pearl Metallic.....a mix of pearl black, silver, and pactra metallic sprinkles. Used enamels mixed up and airbrushed on, came out very well. May use this method more going forward. Little darker than I wanted, but keeps the sinister tone.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09022010002sm.jpg

And while I was out on the paintshed.....first color applied!
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/09022010003sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/09022010004sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

http://www.a1.ag/gallery/gallery/Fahrzeugbeklebung/normal/060-Porsche_911_grau_matt.jpg
Looks much like this one!


Very cool choice of color!



The other one looks really nice aswell!

[Old_School_RC_1]

I love that color....looks almost like a flat or satin paint.

[Lille Buller]

I actually think it is..
Atleast it might not have a clear coat..

[Lille Buller]

Finally got the old girl spinning!
Litteraly..
Tried it in the living room on a set of Tamiya Type D´s, first time i drive on drift tyres.
The way she takes revs with the ballbearing and the plastic wheel are wicked!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Welcome to the drift club! Harder than it looks, lol.

Couple of updated pics...all downhill from here!

Body is all but done, added some new wheels and drift tires. The mesh rims will stay for on road duty.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09042010001.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09042010002.jpg

Tore the chassis apart for paint - is it aluminum...or carbon? :)
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09142010001sm.jpg

Hammered finish...I like it. Why silver? Think it'll make sense once the chassis is fully reassembled.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09142010003sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Well, i got like 5 x 8ft of space when running indoor :P
Makes it hard to get a line..

Looks awesome man!

[Old_School_RC_1]

So close, I can smell the rubber burning.....er...um...the plastic melting :)

Chassis reassembled. All black except for the silver gearbox. Figured that's about where the motor sits in a 1:1 959, so it should be silver back there to match.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09142010006sm.jpg

Electonics in....need to clean up the wiring a bit, but there's not much more room.
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09142010010sm.jpg

Posing with my 911....Though once that M06 comes out, that body will be on a much more appropriate chassis. :):)
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09142010012sm.jpg

[Lille Buller]

I cant wait to se that thing ripping about..!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Done baby!!! Lost the mirrors somewhere, can't find them otherwise but ready to rock and 4 days ahead of schedule!

waiting for the weather to clear for the vid...
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09272010033sm.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09272010034sm.jpg

[92gsr]

Looks great! What motor are you running?

[Old_School_RC_1]

HPI 15t setup straight out of my Blitz with a 16t pinion. Should do fine.

[Lille Buller]

That thing has come through way better than i expected when you first pressented the project!
It´s awesome!

I like the license tags :P

[Old_School_RC_1]

have faith my man!! Thanks for the compliments

[Old_School_RC_1]

Done, and drives like a dream....far better than I expected. :)

working on the vid, will post when ready
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09292010005.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09292010004.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09292010014.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09292010007.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/Porsche959/09292010011.jpg

[Old_School_RC_1]

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPQz_SYY-Sg

[Lille Buller]

That beast wants to go!

But you need to put some backing on the headlamps.
It lets down the looks of the car that it that visible through the wheel arch.

Nice vid!

[Old_School_RC_1]

I know, never noticed it till I was making the vid. Will hit them with some black paint in the back.

[Lille Buller]

Perfect :D

[Lille Buller]

Just ordered a speed tuned gear set, a 25t pinion and a motor heatsink.
That will prop frye my esc..

[Lille Buller]

Dang..
Just got an email that theres 4 to 6 weeks delivery on the gear set..

[Old_School_RC_1]

wow.....4-6 weeks?? And here I am complaining about a 15 day delivery time. :)

[Lille Buller]

It sucks, hard..

I have the pullstart for my hpi on the same order and they wont split the order, well, they will but id have to pay twice for delivery..
Heck no..

[Old_School_RC_1]

I just ordered the Repsol Misubishi body. Love to get the kit, but it is $40 higher than the F150 kit?? So figured I'd get the body and drop it on an older TA chassis and be done with it. Won't be for a while, got the CC build going.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Another month later...
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/10172010004sm.jpg

[92gsr]

Nice stang!

Looks like the forever shipping is hitting me too. The Vintage TOM's EXIV FF01 NIB I won on the first shipped from Dubai and arrived yesterday, The headlight buckets I ordered on the 23rd still haven't. I really want my TA02 done by November to celebrate its 13th birthday. I expected to be finished this summer. I had no clue changing my mind on the body would have added so much time. Anyhow I'll fire off a "where's my stuff" email and rewire everything with 12ga.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2565/hpim4810.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/hpim4810.jpg/)

[Lille Buller]

Yaaahooooo!

Bit parts should be in tomorrow!
Finally!

Ordered on the 3rd of october..

[Lille Buller]

Update:
Ofcorse my pinion didnt have the right pitch when i finally got it.
And i snaped the motormount so my ta is atm. a non runner.
Exactly like all my r/c´s..

Never mind, i got a new motormount in the works.

Does any of you know if this body vill fit the 02 chassis?
http://www.b2bonlineshop.dk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=126&products_id=5625

[Old_School_RC_1]

Should....257 is standard TC WB, and 185-190 is the perfect width.

[Lille Buller]

PERFECT!!

I just bought a 1:1 Peugeot 306 for a daily runner, så a scale copy would be a cool gadget :P

[Blueice12]

I Like the old classic Tamiya cars, you guys have some nice rides.:)

[Lunchbarks]

This thread has inspired me to fix up my OG F150. Still have the MSC in it lol. Still runs like a champ though

[Old_School_RC_1]

Built another in the meantime.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/12042011034.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/12042011035.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/12042011038.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/12042011036.jpg
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/12042011037.jpg

[Blueice12]

Dang pics are not working.

[JatoTheRipper]

Another month later...
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/dschlegel/touring/10172010004sm.jpg

Nice 'Stang, but I'm interested in the scaler in the background. Do you have a thread on it?

Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk

[Old_School_RC_1]

Long abandoned project. Had some issues with the paint/primer and lost patience with it...still have the body, may revisit it someday.

[XXWoodmanXX]

Recently acquired this rare beauty off Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300690499508?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

Before HPI was even HPI, they did alot of hopups for Tamiya TCs and F-series racers. :cool: If anyone has other hopups or rear stabilizers, shoot me a PM or email to roy_woody@hotmail.com :D

[Old_School_RC_1]

Great find! HPI hop up chassis are rare indeed

[XXWoodmanXX]

Alright, so here's my amassed collection of TA02s thus far. I even have a 5th one that I'm building now. If I don't get any gear diff. cups, then I'll settle for making it a FWD for the time being. :)

The Lot:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/IMG_1039.jpg

#1
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/IMG_1041.jpg
Lots of alum. hopups and FRP chassis

#2
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/IMG_1040.jpg
HPI chassis deck and other goodies

#3
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/IMG_1043.jpg
Fully-waterproofed with traxxas 2075 servo, XL-5 ESC, and Slash Rx box

#4
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/IMG_1042.jpg
Rally basher. I beat the snot outta this one, and it keeps coming back for more. My fav. :cool:

[Lille Buller]

Nice collection woody. :D

[XXWoodmanXX]

Thx. I just built a 5th TA02, but due to missing a pr of diff shafts and one dogbone, I had to settle for making it a RWD instead of 4wd. Heh. Got some VTAs on it with an old Fastback Mustang body. She has a great stance, too. :)

[Lille Buller]

Sounds cool, no pics?

I have a pretty much stock 02 only upgrade is ball bearings.
Sadly i broke the motormount so its a shelf queen for now.

Theres this guy close to where i live, that have a bunch of spares for sale including two ball diffs, some gearbox parts including the motor mount i need, some pinions and some dampers and spring and suspention parts for the buggy version of the 02.
But...
I asked for a price on 1 pinion, the motormount (upgrade aluminum item) and a ball diff.
He asked the same kind of money you put down for a new tamiya tt-01..
Honnestly i asked him if he was making fun of me, but no..
Guess that explains why the listing has been up repeatedly for the better part of 6 mounths..