Tamiya FF01/FF02/FWD forum

[Joose]

Hi I have a FF01 too and I think it`s great. Its very old and used but. I bought from a boy who hasn`t benn treading it good so you can really see that its used... : ) but what would be the best cheap upgrade for it? Im only 14 soo I don´t have so many money... off cause it drives great when its stock but I know It can be better..... : )

[TRF Drive Hard]

Ball bearings would be the first best choice and second, an electronic speed control... if it doesnt have one already ;)

[Joose]

Thanks..... but is Aluminium shocks really very much better better than the standard ones?? does it really make a big difference??

[Aluma]

well, they leak oil less and are a smoother and more consistent because of tighter fit of parts...but since you're new, you wont notice any difference.

[Joose]

Thanks.... but I am not a completely newbie thou..... I have been 1,5 years in this hobby and I own an Inferno MP 7.5 sports but I still need a lot practice in this hobby........ How long have u been in this hobby??

[Aluma]

5+ years racing mostly touring, but have tried all others at one point or another. Offroad and onroad are completely different, but if you can master onroad, offroad becomes rather easy. In touring, your cars setup is the #1 importance. In offroad, the settings can be off cuz the terrain isnt consistent anyway. Besides, you shouldnt really use a FF01 at a track, you'd get trounced by the 4wd guys. I've tried it and you get a bunch of wheelspin exiting corners(which means you lose a bunch of precious seconds every lap) It is fun to play with outside though.

[Joose]

I agree but wasn`t there some guy back in this forum who won a couple of races with a FF01?? I know that i can´t compete with a 4wd but wouldn´t it be possiple to make a car that had benefits off being a Fwd?? U know some Fwd´s are very light. But I know that it won´t be able to get as much grip as the 4wd´s.

[Needler56]

is the adjustable camber kit just the steering ball ends with turnbuckles?

[Needler56]

does anyone know the pitch for the stock gearing and what the largest sized pinion gear can fit with the 66t spur gear?

[TRF Drive Hard]

IIRC, its either 24 or 25... and the pitch is 48 metric... just remember that tamiya uses metric on all pinions and spur ;)

[cnroman]

Where can I find steering Knuckles for the FF01? Stock or aftremarket.

Thanks

[Needler56]

i find a lot of parts on ebay, but as for the internet stores, i don't know. every now and then i see parts at the lhs

[irenl]

steering knuckles for FF01? well, you can try what I've done to mine:

TA02/TA03 front knuckles

or

CEN GX4 knuckles + universals, replace universals dogbones with tammy's 39/42mm ones.

or

CEN GX4 lower arms (set to narrow width) + TA04 C hub + TA04 knuckles + Tammy's 42mm universals. Count it as suspension update.

in anycase, I'll be off to the heaven of GPM parts in May. hong kong that is..

[NitroTXT1]

i am hoping to win one and will be running the doors off her with my friend....my question does anyone know where i can get the frp chassis set for it? and also what do you suggest to get a little more handling outta her...i'll prolly run around 10 or higher turns so just wanted to know what people thought was best

[the_decker]

Big hi to everyone from Montreal, Canada! ;-)

just wondering if someone has the manual (or some one could scan it) since i got my FF01 7 years ago and didn't get the manual.... bit hard to find all the parts, and all the info that could be useful....

tia!

Jonathan

[NitroTXT1]

i don't know where you can get a manual but you may be able to download it from the tamiya site....

Update:
won the car+ frp chassis set and just bought some other things along with it and will use ta05 alu steering posts to remove all the slop in steering...can't wait to run

[cnroman]

Big hi to everyone from Montreal, Canada! ;-)

just wondering if someone has the manual (or some one could scan it) since i got my FF01 7 years ago and didn't get the manual.... bit hard to find all the parts, and all the info that could be useful....

tia!

Jonathan

I'll scan the manual for you by the weekend.

[Needler56]

did tamiya ever make the FRP front/rear shock towers and rear sway bar for the ff01? or did they only make it for the 4wd ta02?

[Needler56]

i recently purchased the frp chassis plates and j parts only and do not have any of the other hardware such as screws and steering posts. does anyone have a scan of the instructions or a part number for those other parts? or can anyone answer the following:

is the top plate supposed to be slightly arched?
what screw is to be used for the second mounting post for the servo?
has anyone tried alternative steering posts?

thank you!

[hellbilly]

just secured an FF01. anyone recommended initial hop ups(outside of bearings, better shocks, and universals)?

[Needler56]

just secured an FF01. anyone recommended initial hop ups(outside of bearings, better shocks, and universals)?

i started out with the tamiya bearings, universals, clamp style hex hubs, flourine shocks and adj upper arms and it handled a lot better. i also placed shims in the loose areas of the front end and used tighter ball ends and cups for the steering.

i've installed the tamiya heatsink, upgraded ball diff, carbon hollow shafts and am trying to install the frp chassis. haven't tried these parts yet.

[hellbilly]

i wanna see some pics of FF01's with bodies on them. seems like most bodies sit too high in the front. kinda like the '78 camaro in your white trash neighbors yard with no motor in it

[hellbilly]

nobody?

[hellbilly]

i guess i'll have to wait for my body to arrive in order to answer my question on that topic.

heres another question, what universals are correct for the FF01? some people say that you can use a number of different pieces, but im thinking most of them "sorta" work

[Needler56]

here's mine with an acura body, i kept the excess plastic all the way around the bottom:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/tambeamsinteg011.jpg

i thought that since it was a way newer body from my original body (castrol civic), i drilled a new set of holes when the factory front holes actually already fit perfectly, but not the rear. and yes, the body will sit too high in the front.

i have the tamiya brand universals, but the hex adapters don't seat against the ball bearings, so i'm going to have to add shims, not sure why it was made that way and/or why they didn't include shims.

hope this helps!

[hellbilly]

are your universals part number 53172? tamiya lists them as for the TA02 or FF chassis, but i have a ta02 axle and an ff01 axle here and they are like 5mm longer. maybe its from a ta02W? no idea.

your body seems to fit nicely, as far as front tire clearance goes. maybe its the angle of the picture, but the wheelbase looks short. if you could get me a few more snaps of that car, id be grateful. try me on AIM if u can

i just ebayed an HPI DC2 Integra body and some HPI TE37 wheels. im gonna be pissed if it sits too high

[Needler56]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/tambeamsinteg013.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/tambeamsinteg012.jpg
[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/tambeamsinteg014.jpg

the wheel base is the stock length, it's just that the way the wheel well line is, makes the wheel base look short.

and yes i have part number 53172 which sinks all the way into the gearbox joints. they have a seperate part number for the ta02w.

[hellbilly]

well i still cant find the universals, but at least i got the correct axle on its way.

i see what u mean about cutting the body "long", but yours looks good from all angles, and i can only see the extra material in the rear. hopefully, i will luck out with a DC2 integra.

anybody know what part numbers i could use for ball cups in the steering assembly?

[Needler56]

well i still cant find the universals, but at least i got the correct axle on its way.

i see what u mean about cutting the body "long", but yours looks good from all angles, and i can only see the extra material in the rear. hopefully, i will luck out with a DC2 integra.

anybody know what part numbers i could use for ball cups in the steering assembly?

the original ball cups are from the "d parts" tree and the 5mm ball connector bb6 is from "screw bag b." they also have hop up #53191 which includes the turnbuckles and tie rods.

here's the progress on a project that i started, i'm missing a few screws, but most importantly the steering posts. i haven't found an alternative to them:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/marielles8thbday118.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/marielles8thbday123.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/marielles8thbday120.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/marielles8thbday124.jpg

[hellbilly]

slightly jealous. would be very envious if it were complete. i keep seeing the hop up chassis on ebay buy i dont know if its complete or not so i stay away.

[Needler56]

actually, right after i posted that i decided to put it on ebay. i wanted something i could run and i felt that if i completed it, it would become a shelf queen. here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280090550785&rd=1&rd=1

[hellbilly]

argh. i would have snatched it up just for the hop-ups. could have still sold the chassis set

[Needler56]

i've thought about that, but i just want to get rid of it as a whole. what hop ups do you have right now? i listed two more rolling chassis before the frp one. so now all i have is my original one that i got from 1994 that has metal shielded ball bearings, novak tempest max, novak mercury and trinity 12t double.

[hellbilly]

all i have are rubber sealed bearings. i will probably be bidding on it, and hopefully winning. i want every hop-up listed minus chassis.

would you be interested in selling outside of auction? if so, how much?

or you could replace all the hop ups with my stock parts and sell off the chassis LOL.

[Needler56]

LOL. good luck. btw, what's the motor limit with the 66t spur and the 25t pinion? i never really knew, i've gone to as low as 10x1 and mainly use a 12x2 with no problems, but my novak tempest pro esc eventually died out after many years of running. too low of turns?

[hellbilly]

if your asking me, your asking the wrong guy. im still putting my FF01 together, havent ran it yet. i think it has a 19t in it now, and i have a 16t double, as well as a hot stock motor set aside for it

[hellbilly]

nice score on that. now u can buy it all again and still make money lol

[hellbilly]

well, screw it. mine is on ebay RTR. user ID cmross13

[Needler56]

i posted a few things on the auctions thread a lil while after you did and saw yours. at least you got out now, i got out after spending over 400.00 in upgrades what i will never see again lol. i feel a lot better not having it on my mind though.

[NitroTXT1]

here is my old ff01...will be getting another soon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/JayEng/Tamiya%20FF01%20Top%20Secret%20RSX/TopSecretRSXFinishedSide.jpg

first custom body and only custom body....still have it but sold the ff01 with some hop-ups

hope to score another soon...i actually wanted that one that needler listed but someone outbid me at the last second!!

these can hanlde mild brushless btw..i ran a feigao 380c13T on 6cell pack with no probs

[Needler56]

great paint and stickers. those stickers look way better than the stock ones. where are they from?

[hellbilly]

here is my old ff01...will be getting another soon...hope to score another soon...
bid on mine lol. its immaculate. and if the price is right i'll pull it off ebay and sell it as a roller, then sell radio gear seperate

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330102995927&rd=1&rd=1

[NitroTXT1]

great paint and stickers. those stickers look way better than the stock ones. where are they from?

Thanks....they're from a yokomo topsecret s15 I hated having to buy the body but was almost the same price when and if you could find just the decals....


bid on mine lol. its immaculate. and if the price is right i'll pull it off ebay and sell it as a roller, then sell radio gear seperate

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...95927&rd=1&rd=1

bin price? lol i guess actually i'll just bid...i want another one...just don't need it lol...have soo many rc's and i just picked up a darkimpact and clod last week lol but i'll probably bid on her...she even has the same wheels i ran on mine!

[Needler56]

i ended up with four ff01's at one point, but three of them weren't totally complete. i only now have my original one, don't know what it is with these cars lol

[NitroTXT1]

haha for me it's the fact that they don't really make 1/10th scale ff cars anymore and also i like having the appropiate chassis for the body if i can lol...so civic's and stuff are at home for me on this chassis and i like vintage stuff...

the next one i get will recieve a mild bl setup like my old one...the 380c 13t worked well on it and was no strain on the tranny at all...heck i'll even get a set of foams for when i go messabout on the track

[TerribleOne]

Hey guys,

Well I am officially addicted to these ff01's. I picked up a cheap one off ebay and just had to have more. Heres the second one ive been working on.

FRP accord, body is pretty beat but it should have a civic on it real soon.


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1640/ff01002rexs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6167/ff01008reei2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5918/ff01009remq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8425/ff01010reyp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Only a few more things and it will be complete, really want to run some type of brushless but not sure which one yet. Also working on a ebrake setup on a 3rd ch :D that will be real fun.



Is there any other good forums out there about ff01's?

[Needler56]

looks clean! i like how you have the reciever mounted on the main chassis. the only other forum i've used is tamiyaclub.com and they seem pretty helpful.

[NitroTXT1]

as for brushless anything within reason will be fine...i ran a feigao 380c 13t in mine and had zero probs..but i am sure you could go hotter than that...that's about a brushed 17 or 19 turn i believe...a mamba 5700 on a 6 cell pack may be fine...i would like to try it one day....also real nice ride...i just picked up another ff01 myself..pics soon to follow

[NitroTXT1]

i actually won hellbilly's car...it's clean...

[TerribleOne]

as for brushless anything within reason will be fine...i ran a feigao 380c 13t in mine and had zero probs..but i am sure you could go hotter than that...that's about a brushed 17 or 19 turn i believe...a mamba 5700 on a 6 cell pack may be fine...i would like to try it one day....also real nice ride...i just picked up another ff01 myself..pics soon to follow

Idk, I think a 5700 may be pushing it a little. Whats that like a 9t. What kind of run times to you get with those Brushless systems?, all ive ever ran were the small outrunners in my crawlers.

Got a new body for mine, just need to make some head/tail light decals for it. It looks too mexican'ish with them smoked :rolleyes:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4779/ff01016ress5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Needler56]

great pic! the red on black looks good. is that a tamiya body? if so, where'd you buy it?

[TerribleOne]

great pic! the red on black looks good. is that a tamiya body? if so, where'd you buy it?

Yep thats a real Tamiya one, I picked it up off ebay a few weeks ago and it was already painted. Theres some aussie on there selling repops. I was going to pick one up but saw this one. Bought a nip ford mondeo too. I guess I need to buy some more cars

[NitroTXT1]

Idk, I think a 5700 may be pushing it a little. Whats that like a 9t. What kind of run times to you get with those Brushless systems?, all ive ever ran were the small outrunners in my crawlers.

Got a new body for mine, just need to make some head/tail light decals for it. It looks too mexican'ish with them smoked :rolleyes:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4779/ff01016ress5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

yea the 5700 might be a little bit much i believe it is a 9t...try the 4600 i believe it's 12t or ....on 6 cells that won't be overkill heck the 9t wouldn't be bad on 6 cells either to be honest but at the same time do you want that kind of wheelspin? i wanna try something faster in mine and run foams...should be fun to have a fwd bl smokin a nitro lol pics of my new one up soon!

[Needler56]

does anyone know the final drive ratio?

[minijosh]

I wish my honda accord shell was unpainted. Would like to make it street looking. Hmm maybe I should just strip the decals off the shell.

[Robjl101]

Hi, i've had my ff01 for ages (must be getting on for 8 years maybe), it's been in the cupboard for a year or 2 but i've now decided to revive it. It's now got a an Nosram esc and a 19t motor. What i want are new wheels and tyres. I was thinking of getting HPI TE37s with 3mm offset (so it'll look better on 190mm bodies), would they fit? also are there any tyres and inserts anyone could recommend? Thanks.

[munza]

Does anyone know if front/rear arms off ta02 will fit ff01 nicely?

[munza]

Ignore last post, they do.
Now just chasing a FRP chassis.

[howielong]

Ignore last post, they do.
Now just chasing a FRP chassis.


Here's my FF01

Tamiya Sport Tuned Motor
Tamiya Front Universal Joints
Tamiya TA03 Ball Diff (Super Tight)
Tamiya Motor Heat Sink Blue
Tamiya FRP Chassis
Tamiya TRF Dampers (After photos)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/StevenCole/FF01/DSC_0209.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/StevenCole/RC/DSC_0050.jpg

[Needler56]

looks great! can you use side by side cells on that chassis?

[serpent17]

i have a tamiya ff01, TAMIYA TA03RS GT2 PORSCHE AND THERE STILL GOOD SHAPE I LOVVEEE THEM:D:D:D:D:p:D:):):p:wave:

[Needler56]

IIRC, its either 24 or 25... and the pitch is 48 metric... just remember that tamiya uses metric on all pinions and spur ;)

i was just perusing through the thread and noticed that you said 48 metric. this is probably a noob question, but is there a 48 standard?? or is the 48p gears you see everywhere all metric?

or is 48p metric and 64p standard?

[serpent17]

hello, that's a good topic but your answer is there is metric and standard.

BECAUSE I've bought RRP pinions for my ff01 and also all my other ta cars and the mesh would strip my spurs balled so ill quickly take the gear out.

BUT the tamiya pinions are leaning more tords the 32p but in a 48p. what I'm trying to say is that metric 48p is more "beafy" then standard 48p I've use RRP pinions on my tc3 also rs4 cars and there perfect ill use tamiya pinions on kimbrough spur and the tamiya mesh is to large for those spurs.

[Rooster Clumsy]

Soooo... when's that last time one of us front-wheel drivers took one of these things to race on a track? :)

[serpent17]

well i never took my car to a track because there's no parts for it anymore at shops or hardly any aluminum parts. you could get a new kit from ebay still inn the box but I'm not a fan of ordering from other countrys.

all i know is that the tamiya ff01/ta02ff were very huge in the early to mid 90's they ran with the only other full 1:10scale car witch was the *yokomo yrfs yr-f2 fwd* it was so close at size and drive train it was perfect race match. BUT since the yok was amost direct drive and smooth belt drivin font motor front wheel drive car it was wayyy to fast for the ff01 so they banned and outlawed the yoks from running with the tamiyas. I've heard they race insane races with both chassis. but SPIT THE CARS UP!!!

[Needler56]

i've also heard that ff01's have been outlawed from drifting since the weight is in the front and that the rear can swing out. i wouldn't think that our cars would be able to drift very well in the first place

[serpent17]

well ill smack the person who trys to drift an ff01 because they would end up wrecking such a awsome rc but its not only an "rc" its a FULL scale font mounted motor piece if tamiya history. i very happy i still have one. but I'm working on the highlift and for the onroad the tc3 is doing it for me.

TAMIYA FF01 IS BRINGING SEXY BACK.... maybe. Lol

[mellymel]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamiya-FF01-Drag-Civic-EG-Hatch-Mamba-Brushless-2-4GHz_W0QQitemZ140263410336QQihZ004QQcategoryZ34061 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Needler56]

dang, that looks like a beast! i put a 3.5r on mine before and it was crazy. right now, i have an xbr8.5 with a 2s2p 5000mah lipo and it's perfect. like what you did with the heatsink, good luck!

[Dangler]

Hey guys, im new to the world of tamiya actually, just picked up a ff01 golf v5, i plan on building this up right from the start, i'd love to pick up an frp chassis, but typical of these cars, nearly impossible to find, i had to order the hop ups from the UK and Japan.

I really dig this chassis, i plan on picking up another car for parts if needed. i was wondering. what other chassis does the ff01 share parts with, if there is a site or a list around, can someone help me out with that??

if anyone has an frp chassis for a ff01, let me know, i'll buy it off you!!!!

[Dangler]

Finished my ff01 golf mk4 bodies car. i love it, i used to actually own a 1:1 4dr black golf.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5951.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5959.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5960.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5961.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5962.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5963.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5966.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5967.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5968.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5970.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/RC%20Fleet/IMG_5977.jpg

ENJOY!!!

[Needler56]

those are some great pics, i love it!

[Thomas B.]

I know that this thread is not the most booming place anymore but it has made my decision whether or not I should buy an FF01.
There is a brand new FF01 kit at my local hobby shop that I had my eye on for a while. Mainly because I have the 1:1 car and thought it would be cool to have an R/C version. I went there last week to look at the FF01 kit but a TB02 priced really low caught my eye and I bought that instead. I cant get the car off of my mind so I figured that tomorrow I will go buy it.
In other words even though there is not a whole lot of traffic on this particular thread I will be posting some build pics.
I wanted it to be an 18 turn to mimick my 1:1 car that has a 1.8T in it but it doesnt seem anyone makes an 18 turn motor. Maybe Im not looking in the right places/know that much about R/C cars. So a 27Turn motor will go in its place and it seems that this would be a better canidate for the stock drivetrain anyway.
I'll be back tomorrow to put some pics of my new FF01 up.

[Needler56]

I know that this thread is not the most booming place anymore but it has made my decision whether or not I should buy an FF01.
There is a brand new FF01 kit at my local hobby shop that I had my eye on for a while. Mainly because I have the 1:1 car and thought it would be cool to have an R/C version. I went there last week to look at the FF01 kit but a TB02 priced really low caught my eye and I bought that instead. I cant get the car off of my mind so I figured that tomorrow I will go buy it.
In other words even though there is not a whole lot of traffic on this particular thread I will be posting some build pics.
I wanted it to be an 18 turn to mimick my 1:1 car that has a 1.8T in it but it doesnt seem anyone makes an 18 turn motor. Maybe Im not looking in the right places/know that much about R/C cars. So a 27Turn motor will go in its place and it seems that this would be a better canidate for the stock drivetrain anyway.
I'll be back tomorrow to put some pics of my new FF01 up.

sounds good, keep us posted! this is my all time favorite onroad car, i've had mugen, hpi, ae, yokomo and serpent and this is by far my favorite due to the fun factor.

[Thomas B.]

I did pick up my FF01 yesterday but have been very busy with physics lab reports and did not get a chance to post pics of it. I did manage to get most of the chassis built and when I get the chance I will get some pics on here for the fun of it.

[Thomas B.]

Well I didnt exactly get any "build pics" because the camera was dead and by the time I charged it the car was pretty much so finished.
Here is a sneak peak, I still need to get the decals on and paint the mirrors. Ill get some finished pics on when I get it completed.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/68chevelle72/100_0115.jpg
By the way I built the smaller car not the big one :D Robots in Mexico are responsible for the big beetle.

[mellymel]

Here is my pride and joy, FWD for the record....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1765.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1766.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1767.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1768.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1769.jpg

[serpent17]

Here is my pride and joy, FWD for the record....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1765.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1766.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1767.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1768.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/fasttimes/CIMG1769.jpg

hey, man that's sweet! does it really work? i see the turbo and the intercooler and everything.
does it really function or its all for looks? sorry for the stupid question LOL

[Needler56]

that's awesome!!

[floppydisk35]

Hi, I'm new here... hope I'm not too late here :p

Anyway I've got this FF01 that I wanna transform in a drift car. I know it's a FWD, but at least I wanna make it slide the back end round the corners. I was thinking of installing much stiffer shocks like these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10-60mm-Shock-Absorber-Adjustable-Damper-Coller-4-Set_W0QQitemZ250391921866QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toy sGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item3a4c8584ca&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1683|240:1318|301:1|2 93:1|294:50), and maybe fit in a 20t motor. What else should I add/remove to make it slide? Would adding weight on the back help? Do I need drift tyres? Also as I will install a 17/20t in the future (a looooooong time from today.. I'm sorta out of cash) do I need to change the pinion gears, or the differential, or any of that stuff?Thanks in advance!

Paul! :D


EDIT: Another thing, with what do I remove heavy dust from the car's chassis? A cloth doesn't fit in those small holes, especially dirt between the shocks and the oil filled tubes.. thankx! :)

[Needler56]

Hi, I'm new here... hope I'm not too late here :p

Anyway I've got this FF01 that I wanna transform in a drift car. I know it's a FWD, but at least I wanna make it slide the back end round the corners. I was thinking of installing much stiffer shocks like these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10-60mm-Shock-Absorber-Adjustable-Damper-Coller-4-Set_W0QQitemZ250391921866QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Toy sGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item3a4c8584ca&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1683|240:1318|301:1|2 93:1|294:50), and maybe fit in a 20t motor. What else should I add/remove to make it slide? Would adding weight on the back help? Do I need drift tyres? Also as I will install a 17/20t in the future (a looooooong time from today.. I'm sorta out of cash) do I need to change the pinion gears, or the differential, or any of that stuff?Thanks in advance!

Paul! :D


EDIT: Another thing, with what do I remove heavy dust from the car's chassis? A cloth doesn't fit in those small holes, especially dirt between the shocks and the oil filled tubes.. thankx! :)

not sure how much suspension and motor would help, since it's front wheel drive and so much weight is hanging over the front wheels, but to give you an idea, i have a brushless/lipo setup in mine and tried out my friend's drift tires. the wheels would just spin and by the time they hooked, no matter which direction i turned it would just understeer.

to clean the hard to reach places, i'd use some sort of spray that's safe on plastics, i think most motor sprays will work

[floppydisk35]

not sure how much suspension and motor would help, since it's front wheel drive and so much weight is hanging over the front wheels, but to give you an idea, i have a brushless/lipo setup in mine and tried out my friend's drift tires. the wheels would just spin and by the time they hooked, no matter which direction i turned it would just understeer.

to clean the hard to reach places, i'd use some sort of spray that's safe on plastics, i think most motor sprays will work

OK then, thanks :)

Sorry to bug you out, but what if I'd install drift tyres on the rear wheels only? I mean, the rear could slide out effortlessly..or else I'm just grumbling like an old man.. :p

[Needler56]

no problem at all. adding drift tires to the rear only is what i didn't try, but i can imagine it sliding out easily

[floppydisk35]

http://www.fusionhobbies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/TA58410-2.jpg

So, I've got a Volkswagen Golf GTI body for my FF01 (the above photo), and it has arrived today from Hong Kong. Meanwhile I've already bought a new set of rims and 2 drift tyres to get it drifting (see above posts). Anyway, the wheelbase and the wheel arches on the body don't fit! I knew that they weren't gonna fit, but the difference looks greater than what I thought, but at least the rear tyres aren't 190mm apart, but 185mm, so it would still fit even in the body if they are a bit more forward.

So, my question is this: is there a way to increase the length in the wheelbase? I don't want to cut the wheel arches distances shorter because then the stickers (vinyls) won't fit perfectly.

Thanks in advance ;)

PS: Hey, if the wheelbase on the chassis cannot be increased, I would leave it as it is, and change the bodyposts's holes (they aren't predrilled).

[floppydisk35]

BUMP! Is there a way to increase the wheelbase? Anybody?

[Needler56]

if you mean track width, you might be able to use the arms and drive shafts from the ta02w? as for wheelbase, i'm not sure

[floppydisk35]

if you mean track width, you might be able to use the arms and drive shafts from the ta02w? as for wheelbase, i'm not sure

No, I meant for the wheelbase.

Anyway, you can;

http://image2-4.rcuniverse.com/e1/forum/upfiles/285125/Ro42074.jpg http://image2-0.rcuniverse.com/e1/forum/upfiles/285125/Ca80740.jpg

Go with the second image, people!

[tfedsdb]

Here is a link to a volvo 850 BTCC FF-01

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tamiya-Volvo-850-BTCC-Nr-58183-FF-01-FF01_W0QQitemZ200367697279QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRC_Mo dellbau?hash=item2ea6d86d7f&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
(it's in german)

BTW is that Golf a FF-02 Or 01 or TT-01 coz this link says its a tt-01:

http://www.hobbyco.com.au/product/show_item.php?plu=T57778

Thanks to whoever solves this problem.

[floppydisk35]

Here is a link to a volvo 850 BTCC FF-01

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tamiya-Volvo-850-BTCC-Nr-58183-FF-01-FF01_W0QQitemZ200367697279QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRC_Mo dellbau?hash=item2ea6d86d7f&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
(it's in german)

BTW is that Golf a FF-02 Or 01 or TT-01 coz this link says its a tt-01:

http://www.hobbyco.com.au/product/show_item.php?plu=T57778

Thanks to whoever solves this problem.

The Golf body can fit an FF01, though I'm not sure about FF02's. The only way it can fit FF01's is by lengthening the chassis, as shown in some post of mine above.

**********

So, let's just say that I want to have even better handling than a stock FF01 has. I bought semi-slick tyres for front and rear wheels, and boy, they do make a difference. Another thing is that I swapped the rear hubs by themselves to have a negative toe-out, and that helped out a LOT.

Softer suspension up front would help cornering, but whenever I take the preload from the front shocks, the car's bottom sweeps the ground during turns. Longer shocks would do a marvel, I thought. That's why I'm interested in these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370252044815&ru). I do know that by buying these the CoG will be raised, but they would allow me to have better handling with softer springs without sweeping the ground.

Another issue I want to tackle is to have longer arms;

Unless if you're like me, I'm running long span front arms from CEN's GX1, coupled to TA04 racing caster blocks and steering knuckles.

But I've searched around and I couldn't find any CEN GX1 arms!

Now, to my personal questions;
1. Would the shocks fit the FF01?
2. Are there any longer arms that fit the FF01? (...possibly without having to buy TA04 caster blocks and knuckles..?)


Thanks in advance!
Paul

(quote taken from here (http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=35661), #16)


EDIT: Don't worry... I'm gonna buy TA01 steering knuckles to widen the car by 10mm.

[tpliquid]

I been looking all over the place for some upgraded shock towers but they are all super rare and no where to be found. I had a rear one out of alum last weekend. It fits nicely however it doesnt fit the short wheelbase only the long.

This is just a test unit made for me.
http://www.viptrim.com/newer/ff01rear1.jpg

http://www.viptrim.com/newer/ff01rear3.jpg

[floppydisk35]

Hey, curious question -- the shock tower and the arms surely aren't stock. Where have you bought 'em? Also the part where ESC, receiver and servo usually are, well that surely isn't stock either. Where have you got that?

[tpliquid]

Shock tower is custom made. This is a sample made for me. The arms can be bought from www.asiatees.com look for rear arms for ta02. I bought ta02 front arms but they do not fit ff01.

The chassis is the frp chassis set.

[tpliquid]

Im currently working on front alum shock towers. Gonna get that made soon hopefully

[floppydisk35]

Hey, most TA01/TA02 parts with the FF01 is because the TA02 was gonna be a front wheel drive RC, but plans changed and then they released the TA02 everybody knows. But later on they released the FF01 everybody knows. In fact I'm waiting for TA01 steering knuckles, to make the FF01 wider on the front.

EDIT: Nice job on the shock tower! ;)

[tpliquid]

thanks!

Just finished the front one. Going to get this made in a few weeks.

http://www.viptrim.com/newer/ff01frontcf.JPG

[losiXXXman]

So the consensus is that FF01s are far superior to FF02s. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking how cool a M05 based "FF03" might do. It solves the high CG problem of the M03/FF02. I'm thinking M05 with the TL01LA kit would be a really cool project. Only issue migh be finding a good SWB body, as wheelbase only goes to 239-240mm. Anyone else?

[Old_School_RC_1]

I would agree the FF01 is a far better handler than the FF02. Have had both and the lower CG makes all the difference.

I haven't seen enough of the M05 yet, but streching the chassis to standard touring length could certainly be done I'm sure - anything can be done with enough time and effort. :)

[lomdel]

Hi all! I also recently dug out my heavily modified FF01 out of a box that was in storage for almost 8 years. This was a FF01 HKS Opel Vectra originially, but it has seen many local club and national FWD races about 9-10 years ago. Hence all the mods I made to it. To list a few: Tamiya Carbon chassis plates, HPI saddle pack battery holders, Novak Rooster ESC, a selection of brushed motors, the front motor/gearbox cover cut away and holes drilled to reduce weight, aluminium motor heat sink, custom diagonal braces between front uprights and top chassis plate to increase stiffness, blue aluminium front arms, a selection of foam tire compounds (can't remember which), customised 48P spur gear, aluminium shocks and the latest body used was this Mitsubishi Eclipse one.
I plan to try and get some A, B and E-parts to make it look better and get it running again. I also want to fit Tamiya tires/rims and install a Castle Sidewinder BL system and my Futaba 3PM 2,4ghz system's Rx.
You can see the tires on it now is perished and cracked due to the age...
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/lomdel/011020090782.jpg

[Old_School_RC_1]

nice FF, though I would re-think those openings in the gearbox. Like the front arm supports - nice idea.

[tpliquid]

Thats really nice chassis you got there. Hows your front shock mount? Any cracks?

[tpliquid]

Got a new tower made, thinner and lighter. 2 grams more than stock unit

http://viptrim.com/newer/ff01rear6.jpg

[lomdel]

http://www.fusionhobbies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/TA58410-2.jpg

So, I've got a Volkswagen Golf GTI body for my FF01 (the above photo), and it has arrived today from Hong Kong.

Any link to more of these beautiful bodies? I would also like a prepainted Golf V body for my FF01...

[lomdel]

After a lot of work and some extensive eBay support of Tony's Tamiya shop and a vintage Tamiya shop, this is the final product. All original Tamiya parts and hop-up parts. I know the body is not vintage and not a FF01 chassis, but it is Tamiya and beautiful. :)
I replaced my original (10 year old) Trinity brushed stock motor and Novak Duster ESC, but a new Castle Creations Sidewinder 1/10 5700kv system is on its way. I also purchased a 4600mah Nimh battery. I replaced the stick-pack battery tray to keep the option of lipo open, but this car won't see much drive-time, it will mostly be a shelf queen restoration project....

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/lomdel/241020091042.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/lomdel/241020091092.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/lomdel/241020091072.jpg

[Needler56]

thanks for sharing everyone! here's an older picture of mine with the body on when it had a brushed setup and without with a bl/lipo setup. not pictured is the esc fan and tamiya motor heat sink like the one in lomdel's post:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/castrolcivic024.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/bichirsdead026.jpg

[studysession]

Do they still make these?
I would like a FWD RC where the motor is mounted in front of the tires like that.

[92gsr]

Nope. Your best bet is to cruise the bay or find a ta03f and build what you want from there.

[losiXXXman]

I'd be curious to hear if anyone has built a FF car based on a TA03F and how it performed. Nice thing about it, like the FF01, you could go high end and do graphite chassis and all. Not reaaly much to go on with the FF02.

Is anyone from the FWD clan going to build a M05 based FF03???? I don't have the budget for the fifty project ideas I have in my head right now, but when I get around to it, that's one I want to do.

[Old_School_RC_1]

I have built one with a 03F - snapped the belt and just removed the rest of the drivetrain for a while. Handles very similiar to the FF01 overall since the layout is farily similiar. I'd give the edge though to the FF still, but the 03 seemed ok.

Dunno, but I have a dual motor M chassis in my project box. :)

[samaj]

I have a 10-12 year old still running chassis. I'am not into shelf queens & want to run mine at the local track for fun.
Currently looking for a FF01 or/and FF02 kit , chassis. Please mail me.

Thanks
samaj69@gmail.com

[losiXXXman]

For those wanting to build a... FF03? I see 3racing has a set to extend the M05 out to full-size sedan wheelbase. Just use TL01 or TL01LA suspension for those who didn't/don't know.

[samaj]

Great.......any completed pics of this?

[rickgodoy]

hello everybody!

It´s my first time posting here!

I´ve decided to upgrade my Tamiya FF01. My car is 100% original from box and I just don´t know what I´ve to change before put this brushless combo to ride.

The brushless combo which I´ve choosen is the Hobbywing Ezrun 5.5T 6000KV.

I´ve already put full ball bearings in the car, alum. dampers, alum. knuckles and hubs.

I´m worried about the gearbox. Will the original gearbox support this brushless?

What normally has to be changed to use brushless without problems? :roll2:

Thanks!

[Old_School_RC_1]

Yes, I'd say the gearbox would hgandle it just fine. Basic 3 gear set-up that's been around since the dawn of time, and FWD cars are easier on the drivetrain than their RWD counterparts.

Make sure your ball diff is solid and well lubed, and have the driveshafts properly shimmed up with the little o-rings or even better, find a set of universals. Since the front wheels are doing all the work, the shafts take a bit of abuse. If you are at full steering lock and the bone pops out, it will do some major damage.

[Needler56]

hello everybody!

It´s my first time posting here!

I´ve decided to upgrade my Tamiya FF01. My car is 100% original from box and I just don´t know what I´ve to change before put this brushless combo to ride.

The brushless combo which I´ve choosen is the Hobbywing Ezrun 5.5T 6000KV.

I´ve already put full ball bearings in the car, alum. dampers, alum. knuckles and hubs.

I´m worried about the gearbox. Will the original gearbox support this brushless?

What normally has to be changed to use brushless without problems? :roll2:

Thanks!

when i first installed my novak xbr 8.5 (5000kv) with a nexxus 2s 5000mah(12c cont/25c burst) all i had were metal shielded ball bearings. i ended up spinning the pressure plate in the diff on the first run.

i updated the diff with part #53219 1/10 touring car aluminum pressure plate set, part #53177 fwd aluminum motor heatsink, tamiya blue springs up front and red in the rear. not sure if the other stuff matters, but the diff has been holding up ever since.

the last and only other problem i've had was one of the screws holding the upper arm to the upright backed out.

even after just doing high speed runs for the entire pack, esc, motor, battery and tires are under 100 degrees f. i've also been using the 66t spur and 25t pinion the entire time

i remember someone on the boards or on ebay having one with a mamba max 7000. not sure what his setup was

good luck!

[NiMo]

Think this section needs waking up?

Tamiya FF03 Pro
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96106&d=1274294231

[Needler56]

here's a short clip of my ff01. bald slicks on a dusty surface;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmjCYJHUq7c

[NiMo]

Currently building up my FF03.
Far improved over FF01/02
For starters:
Adjustable ball diff
Upstops (for ride height)
Adjustable wheels base from 225mm to 260mm, using the 3 main stettings then the spacers on the swing arms.
Adjustable track width.
Smooth full length underneath to the chassis, fully countersunk.
fits ALL current Touring car sized LiPo/Life packs, as well as old style cells.
Fits standard Touring spur gears, so 48dp/64dp/04dp/06dp can all be used.
Gear cover case fits up to 54t 64dp/40t 48dp pinions,
(just have to watch screw fitting hole when using a smaller spur, fits larger when cover not used)
motor semi exposed from top, so a cooling fan can be used.

[losiXXXman]

YES! Post pics of your FF03!! I just saw those on tamiyausa, and then checked tower. It'll be a while before I have the $$ for something new, but it looks really exciting. I wish Fwd racing would take off as another class here in the US.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Have mine on backorder. Defintely post up some pics!

[NiMo]

Already shattered the diff in mine :(
Brittle Plastic does not work

[Old_School_RC_1]

shattered the ball diff?

[TERRA Operative]

Hi. I'm new here and am currently building up a Tom's Levin FF01.
I own two of the real things (one supercharged, one with the quad throttle bodies) so this car seemed somewhat fitting.

I've only got a small list of hopups, but I'm still looking for a few more.
The list is as follows:

42142 - TRF 3mm ceramic diff ball set
49355-6000 - TRF Dampers, special blue
50473 - Hi-torque servo saver
53024 - Aluminium flange lock nuts
53056 - Pin type wheel adapter
53124 - Tungsten carbide diff ball set
53137 - FWD touring car ball bearing set
53156 - Hard inner sponge set
53165 - Carbon gear shafts
53166 - FRP chassis kit
53172 - Universal shaft set
53177 - Aluminium motor heat sink
53191 - Turnbuckle tie rod set
53192 - Turnbuckle upper arm set
53195 - Carbon plate set
53214 - Super grip radial tyres
53217 - Hard joint cup set
53226 - Touring car aluminium front hub carrier
53525 - Titanium turnbuckle set
53598 - Fluorine ball connector

Aluminium Volk TE37 style rims
TA02 aluminium front steering knuckles
Aluminium rear knuckles
Aluminium Motor heatsink (modified to fit)
Aluminium Steering arms
Titanium king pins


Still in the mail:

53017 - 3x15mm titanium round head screws
53095 - 3x10mm titanium tapping screws
53240 - 3x20mm titanium screws
53596 - Aluminium servo mount

I'm also planning on bracing the front suspension like in the image posted above. I'll be bracing mine to the two screws just behind the writing, either side of the tamiya logo to prevent me having to drill into the carbon.


I think that's it for now. (except for the electrics).



http://a.imageshack.us/img594/1329/rccarfront20100804.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img836/3804/rccarrear20100804.jpg




The question I have is this, Is there any aluminium suspension arms that will fit the FF01? Maybe the TA02 arms? I'm not happy with the amount of flex the plastic ones have, and I just found that the TA01 ones don't fit.

Also, what motor is the best to use for this car? I was looking at using a 9 turn brushless motor with a lithium battery and a GHz radio? I would like to use a brushless, is there any particular specs I should go for?


Thanks. :)

[Old_School_RC_1]

That's a great looking FF!

I don't know of any aluminum arms specifically for the FF. They may be out there, but they are probably pretty rare.

Brushless: depends how fast you want to go really. 9t would be plenty fast!

[Needler56]

love that heatsink! how'd you cut it so clean??

[TERRA Operative]

Yea, I might try some TA02 arms. Are they different to TA01?

I cut the heatsink with a Dremel with a thin cutoff disk. Hold the heatsink with a rag though, it gets hot.....

[TERRA Operative]

What rear arms are being used here?
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showpost.php?p=2418086&postcount=351

[Old_School_RC_1]

Anyone else have issue with the FF03 Diff? Mine does not fit quite right, it's loose and wobbles a bit....Can't see any other way to install it. Seems like the gearcase molding is larger than the diff bearings.

NiMo, you had said your shattered....does it wobble around a bit? Can totally see that happening in that case.

First issue I've ever had with a Tamiya kit in 20 years...unbelievable quality.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Tore it down - the diff outdrives are clearly undersized for the bearings, the gearcase is fine. Not even going to drive it at this point, very concerned the gears are going to get chewed up. A very rare case. Waiting to hear from Tamiya.

[92gsr]

Wow I heard rumors that Tamiya was cutting corners with their new kits. I didn't want to believe it. I hope this was an anomaly. I am very anxious to see this car.

[NiMo]

Anyone else have issue with the FF03 Diff? Mine does not fit quite right, it's loose and wobbles a bit....Can't see any other way to install it. Seems like the gearcase molding is larger than the diff bearings.

NiMo, you had said your shattered....does it wobble around a bit? Can totally see that happening in that case.

First issue I've ever had with a Tamiya kit in 20 years...unbelievable quality.

Car itself is great, already a lap faster that I ever set with the FF01, and I'm only running the basic HPI Firebolt motor.
As for the diff, well it is the worst ever, have had the thrust race crack, the plastic holder for the diff nut crack, the diff bolt snap, and now the centre plastic area ripped out. being annoyed is an understatement.
What gets me is that you can do a run and set FTD against the 17.5 runners, and then as you go out for your next run the diff just break, even with very light load on it.
Am looking at a way of fitting a spool in to this car as it does suffer from diff outs (like all fwd cars) which makes it proned to rear end knocks out of corners if steering still turning, once steering is straight there is no touching this car.
I will not give up with this car. IT WILL WORK

[TERRA Operative]

Can you maybe use some Loctite bearing retainer compound (the green stuff) to hold the bearings in place?

[Old_School_RC_1]

To update - let me say that I've built over 50+ tamiya kits over the years, and have never once had a fitment issue until this one. Phenomenal engineering and quality control.

Doesn't look like corner cutting to me in any way, the kit itself is the usual tamiya high quality. Interesting that there are zero tapping screws in it, they are all machine screws. Arm is sore, it's a lot of work with the screwdriver!

NiMo, it will crack and break since it can wiggle in the bearings....no doubt about it. All kinds of lateral pressures and what not going on in there. That's bad news for any drivetrain. My guess is with the proper outdrives it will be much more reliable. Since this is the same tranny, wondering if their new 2wd buggy has the same issue?

I've written to Tamiyausa with the problem and part numbers, I'll post back with whatever response they give. I cannot be the only one with this issue. Until then, it's sitting on the shelf. Not even going to run it until I figure out a solution. Might look into a set of steel DF03 outdrives, they use the same bearings and I know they are a good fit.

[NiMo]

have been looking at other outdrives, but cannot find ones the same narrow width as the FF03 one.
Am looking to fit Cyclone universals as I cannot find any others in stock
(have some old cyclone ones)

[Old_School_RC_1]

It's a new diff all around, only the FF03 and TRF201 use it I believe.

Still waiting to hear back from Tamiya....

[NiMo]

Have found that the universals from the Cyclone WRC are the same as the 416, 44mm shafts, and they fitted the FF03 with no mods, just needs a 0.3mm shim to remove the slack.
What I have discovered is that the original wheel axle cups have been rubbing the hub holders on full lock, which could be why I was struggling out of the corners until i slightly straightened the steering, and could also be another item that is destroying the diff.
The bearings that have come with this car are absolute crap, they ALL have play in them, so am looking at an extra bill replacing the bearings with quality ones.
have also had to replace all the shims in the front hubs and steering areas to remove the slack in parts, so am looking very much forward to some aftermarket parts.
This is TAMIYA QUALITY AT ITS WORST.
What are wrong with the guys?
do they want to go out of business?
it is making the FF01 look like a quality car

[Old_School_RC_1]

Well, I heard back and finally after pleading my case, taking pictures and even posting a video I have a replacement set of outdrives on the way. Cannot believe I'm getting grief over a set of $4 plastic outdrives. Not overly impressed with the CS, response was quite snotty. We'll see if the parts are a better fit, though I will say my issue seems to be a unique one.

Nimo, saw your posts over on....well, another site and we are having very different diff issues. I'd love to comment, but mine's not even on the road yet.

[NiMo]

Have ordered some alloy diff outdrives, and that updated bolt and wing nut.
Just hope I get to the bottom of this as I am trying to promote cheap racing (motor and esc side), which is looking good when the car is running.
Am also looking to make the car wider than its 180mm, am currently using an old Tamiya Vectra shell which was used last back in 1996 and although slightly damaged is still in one piece, but I have found an HPI BTCC Mondeo for half price so need to widen the car to make the wheels look right under the shell.
I WILL make this car work, even if it means pattern parts, or parts from other cars.

[Old_School_RC_1]

Have ordered some alloy diff outdrives, and that updated bolt and wing nut.
Just hope I get to the bottom of this as I am trying to promote cheap racing (motor and esc side), which is looking good when the car is running.
Am also looking to make the car wider than its 180mm, am currently using an old Tamiya Vectra shell which was used last back in 1996 and although slightly damaged is still in one piece, but I have found an HPI BTCC Mondeo for half price so need to widen the car to make the wheels look right under the shell.
I WILL make this car work, even if it means pattern parts, or parts from other cars.


maybe a dumb question, but did you try putting some HD threadlock on that screw that holds the wing nut together? Those screws are tiny and can very easily strip.

[Lille Buller]

Do you have pics of that vectra body?
Id love se it..

[NiMo]

maybe a dumb question, but did you try putting some HD threadlock on that screw that holds the wing nut together? Those screws are tiny and can very easily strip.

Yes I did, both BLUE and RED Loctite.
It just seemed strange that you can do a run with no problems, and then go out for next run and within 10ft loose all drive.

I even have a 2nd car cos I thought it would be so reliable (like Tamiya once was), but that has remained sealed in its box. Think I'll fit that one out with all 3racing parts, including the Carbon chassis, then see which one is better.

[NiMo]

Do you have pics of that vectra body?
Id love se it..


Not my picture, but it is the same shell in same colours as I am running.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/NigelMoss/HKSVectra.jpg


And this is my local race track (it runs clockwise).

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/NigelMoss/AldershotRCTrack.jpg

[Lille Buller]

Thats a cool shell m8!

[Old_School_RC_1]

sweet - same body I ran on my FF01 back in the day

[Lille Buller]

Id love to have the 406btcc body, but it just that bit too pricy..

[superspeed]

volvo 860 btcc, mugen civic, mondeo, renault clio, etc.

heck, just bring all the older fwd body shells back hehe

[Lille Buller]

And the R33 skyline loctite..
Tho be it 4wd..

Totally agreed!

[TERRA Operative]

Anyone know where I can get Eagle racing gear, by that I mean someone who will actually call me back?
I need a few bits for my FF01 so I can complete my quest for every hopup ever available for it.

http://www.eaglemodel.com/jp-net/jp-cont/on_new10/tamiya_ff.html

I'm trying to find part numbers #2001 and #2010 in the above link. Eagle Racing just palmed me off to a Taiwanese seller that wouldn't reply to my emails... :(

[Needler56]

this is the only thing eagle racing i've seen on ebay, but it's a spur gear:

http://cgi.ebay.com/777-070-Eagle-Speed-Tuned-Gear-Tamiya-FF01-/350327552860?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5191263b5c

you may want to contact the seller to see if he has unlisted eagle racing parts or maybe even a contact? good luck!

[TERRA Operative]

Sent him a message, will see what happens. Thanks for the link.

[TERRA Operative]

No go (again, no response). Hmm. Well when I've finished building my CNC router, I'll probably make some parts myself.

I'm looking at electrics for this FF01, and am thinking of a brushless motor.
If I were to keep it all Tamiya (which I am trying to do where possible) what would be the best all round motor/esc to use for this chassis?
I'm almost a complete noob when it comes to motors, esc's and gearing.

[Needler56]

i think the tamiya brushless system was discontinued, i'm not sure. i use a novak xbr 8.5 with the 66t spur and 25t pinion combo and spun the stock diff after a few runs. i put in the tamiya hop up diff and it's been fine since. esc, motor, battery and tire temps stay in the low to mid 90's. not too fast, but fast enough to flip over during turning on the throttle. i want to go faster, but i like how the temps stay low and am not sure if the car would be able to handle more power anyway.

[TERRA Operative]

I'm not sure what diff I have, whatever comes stock with the Tom's Levin FF01.
I do have the silicon carbide ball bearings, but I'll look into upgrading.

[Needler56]

it's the 53219 1/10 Touring Car Aluminum Pressure Plate Set: http://www.etamiya.com/shop/images/tamiya_rcmodel/53219.jpg

[bardynt]

hey

what size motor is the limit in the cars before the motor becomes too powerfull and tears the chassis apart. Its a 540 motor size in these cars is it ?

would like some info on these cars looking to get into on road cars i have all offroad cars atm.

So any info on what to look out for would be much appreciated